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housewife2
I really understand how you feel. I signed contract this week, and I really have no idea from where I’ll have the money. But do you really think that the school doesn’t have a fundraiser? In this economy the school gets much less from fundraising. I understand why the school is putting pressure on everyone.
Anyways, I think here is the wrong place to complain. Some people will tell you that If you don’t move out from BP to a place where housing is cheaper then you value location over tuition, and such type of comments.
I am sure that you wouldn’t move to Kiryas Yoel if that will help you pay tuition
BP is surrounded by communities that are there to stay, which doesn’t help out the rent problem.
Are you saying that if someone knows that along the road they will need cleaning help, then they shouldn’t get married?
All of the sudden you all bacame so flat. As if there aren’t many factors taken in to account when deciding where to live.
And BTW I might need a car when I move, and I am paying tuition here too.
GAW If I use the money for rent, How do I have extra money?
So you are telling me to move to a cheaper place where I’ll be able to use the $220 for rent and I won’t need cleaning help and????
gavra_at_work
Well, if I would pay less tuition the first thing I would do is to move to a larger apartment.
I’m not planning on moving outside of my neighborhood.
Why do you live in such a “small” apartment?
Are you trying to say that instead of using money for cleaning help I should use it for a larger apartmnet?
I spend about $220 a month for cleaning help, which is far from enough money to afford a larger apartment.
SJSinNYC
Like always in the cr I’ll repeat myself. I said it’s hard for you to imagine living in a cramped up apartment.
Cleaning help IMO is far from a luxury
Dr. Pepper
Yes, they sleep in the dining room.
This is the norm in my neighborhood.
SJSinNYC
I disagree.
Keep in mind, not everyone is so geshikt as you. Living in Monsey and in Teenack, I can’t expect you to imagine how it is living on the 5th floor 1 bedroom apt. with 3 kids or more.
Tuition should absolutley be top priority, but cleaning help could many times make a difference bet. coping and not coping. Especially in bklyn where large families are crapmed up in tiny apartments.
Squeak said
“The “fiscal tsunami” is upon us. The dire predictions that we have been hearing for the last 30 years about the sustainability of Orthodox life (vis-a-vis our emphasis on Torah-only) are beginning to bear out”
Did you predict the poor economy?
Mosdos were relying are donations for years, and the donations are much lower since the economy went downhill.
Maybe?
Maybe, the root of the problem is as blinky said, there are plenty of so called damaged goods out there. The age gap is causing that boys are not looking at the so called dameged goods, but are only looking at the next batch.
I do it bacause this is what my father and his father….. did. Even if it’s hard.
I am not telling anyone to do it.
dunno
No comparison at all.
Mcdonalds = Arayos????????????????
Why isn’t anyoen making the main issue “hirhur”? Even if it’s true that mixing boys and girls wouldn’t lead to an aveira, you are far from guarenteed that the boys won’y have hirhur.
WolfishMusings
A leniency
I know that.
WolfishMusings
“Not following a chumra is not, in and of itself, a kula.”
What is a kula?
sof davar hakol nishma
I didn’t say Only chassidishe people, you can read again my post.
I only said that chassidishe people feel uncomfortable when greeted by opposit gender. Everything else that SJSinNYC and OOmis assume that I think, Please don’t make up things so I won’t have a need to respond, going back and forth for nothing.
SJSinNYC
I never said that. Maybe someone else in the CR.
Please don’t excpect a chassidishe man to say good shabbos to a MO woman on the street or in Shul. If you can’t except that, and this will make you be unrespectful to chassidim, then you need to mature. I don’t consider myself being rude by not greeting women. I respect evryone and I never complained that MO are not respectful to chassidim.
WolfishMusings said:
“If I may say so, I believe you are in the minority on this. I believe that most people like to be greeted, by whomever it is that’s doing the greeting — be it man or woman, Jew or non-Jew, child or adult.”
In chassidishe circles it’s the majority that would feel uncomfortable. Well, you can say that chassididhe people are a minority.
Every time a person does a mitzva, it’s a kiddush hashem. Anything that makes the name of Hashem holy is considered a Kiddush hashem. When somene shows the rabim even if it’s only jews that he has mesuras nefesh for a mitzva, it’s a kiddush hashem. When the nations see that Hashems’s chosen people to good things it’s a kiddush hashem.
oomis
OF course I’m not siding with NK, but the name True Jews Against Zionism makes sense to me. The “Zionist movement” IMO doesn’t reflect yearning for tzion, Im Eshkacheich Yerushalyim and Al Naharos Bavel.
It’s not black & white, in some cases do something and try your best, and in other, if you cannot do it correct then don’t do it.
Should someone open a business without managing skills, and try their best?
Wow, we’re living in 2 different worlds. From what I have seen, Bochurim Minyanim take longer and there is no fooling around.
Sounds like a great thing. So far no one said what is the controversy here.
A shul is not a place to play and make noise. If you didn’t learn how to drive a car or plane then don’t drive it. According to you, just drive and try your best?
charliehall said:
“Not talking in shul is the one mitzvah that Reform Jews do a better job of keeping than we who claim to be committed to halachah. We should hang our heads in shame.”
The yetzer horah is not fighting their davening.
I never heard of this tuna bagel thing.
gavra_at_work said:
“Do you actually use a stick?”
good point
SJSinNYC
I won’t cahllenge you on this, your son is 2.5 years old. When he’ll be a little older he won’t be interested in watching “The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse”
Why aren’t you taking the word “shivto” at face value?
SJSinNYC
TV
SJSinNYC said:
BP Totty, I don’t plan to spank them then either. I will definitely find ways to teach them and discipline them, but not at the risk of abusing them.
And you are willing to take risks in other areas that were discussed in other threads.
SJSinNYC said:
“If a child cannot walk safely in the street, they shouldn’t be walking in the street without being safely held in some manner.”
You are not being realistic IMO. Try waiting 15-20 minutes for your kids bus and not letting you 2-3 year old walk around.
In addition to what everyone is saying, I’ll say that having low self esteem is a feeling that you have that developed along the years from different circumstances together with your personality. So when you are talking to your friend it’s the feeling inside of you that makes you think negative thoughts, but the thoughts are 99% false, and afte you have the false negative thoughts, it takes you on a ride and doesn’t stop. If you know before hand that the negative thoughts are only from a feeling and is false it can help you that the next time you are in this situation you’ll be able to stop thinking the negative right away
It’s not very easy but with time it will become more & more easy
Hatzlacha
oomis1105 said:
“Wearing chassidish garb does not make one any more a chosid, than wearing a white coat and stethoscope makes one a doctor. It just enables you to fool the public more easily, if you dress that way without deserving the title.”
How many times do I have to repeat myself? When someone identifies themselves as chassidish, of course it doesn’t make him more of a chosid, I only said that wearing chassidishe garb says that this person idendifies himself as belonging to the chassidishe group. DO YOU REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?????
I am surprised.
Do you people consider extra with your wife the same as extra with someone on the street??????????
If greeting someone on the street is considered extra, it doesn’t mean that talking during dinner with your spouse is extra.
I’m surprised that I have to write it.
I am surprised.
Do you people consider extra with your wife the same as extra with someone on the street??????????
WolfishMusings
My last try, If you don’t understand it this time then I don’t know how to explain it to you.
1. There is a difference bet. saying someone is a chassid “actions and beleifs” and saying someone is chassidish “which crowd he identifies himself with”
2. Where did I say that wearing a shtreimel “makes” you chassidish?
I won’t go in circles. I think I explained myself enough.
WolfishMusings said:
“Fine. I thought it was obvious that I’d only wear it if I liked it and I was comfortable with it. I didn’t think it had to be spelled out. But, I’d be willing to bet that in most cases, if I like something, I’d be pretty comfortable with it too.
The Wolf”
Ok, so if a person wears a shtreimel and like the look and feels comfortable with it, then he is chassidish (excluding yerushalayim). If that person says that he is MO then something is wrong with him.
WolfishMusings said:
“that I really like the look (and hence I’d be comfortable with it).”
NO – These 2 are not connected . You can like the look of it, but you wouldn’t feel comfortable wearing outside
WolfishMusings said:
“There’s nothing that says that it’s forbidden for a non-Chassid to wear a streimel. So, if I liked the look, I would wear it.”
Hard to beleive. Not everything that makes sense logically is done in reality. Even a person that is very logical but is still within the range of “normal” which I beleive you are, wants to feel comfortable with their appearence.
Jose
So what do you think Wolfish meant by the word “Suddenly”?
WolfishMusings
Shifting from MO to chasiddih doesn’t happen instant, so If you suddenly decide to put on a shtreimel I would say that something is wrong with you.
I didn’k think that permitting TV could be a reflection of Torah Umada philosophy
Maybe you’re right, I have to think it over.
SJSinNYC
All I’m trying to say is that MO is more than “Torah Umada philosophy”
SJSinNYC
read my post again:
I said, what are the Rabbi’s telling us to do, not what every individual does.
“Modern Orthodox = Torah Umada (in general). “
So it’s only “BTW it happens to be” that all MO rabbis came to the same conclusion, to permit watching TV?