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I for one will be staying right here in the United States of America. In my home of which I bought legitimately (not some interest only scam) with my hard earned money (I saved up for many years). Up until a couple months ago, I was undecided, then I educated myself on both candidates, I ignored the media and other fellow coworkers and friends on their brainwashing influences. I have decided to vote for Senator Barak Obama. I believe he will make a great positive difference in our economy. Reading some of these posts on this thread I have come to the conclusion, that many of you are not educated in what both Obama and McCain represent. You are speaking word for word what your parents are saying, and what the media is saying. Does anyone here have a mind of their own? Do you know where any of the candidates stand in their beliefs?
“Why Yidden are the BEST!”
Give Me a Break “I dunno, why?”
Joseph “Because we even tolerate a nice person such as yourself.”
Ha Ha Ha that cracked me up! There’s another reason right their. Our sense of humor!
gavra_at_work, “Keeping up with the Joneses in being the “frummest”?” is (and should be) a priority for many people. Part of living in Lakewood is listening to the Gedolim/Roshei Yeshiva, and if they decide what the “Joneses” should do, then you have to listen, or expect to be left out of the greater Lakewood community.If you want to follow your own Rav, Lakewood may not be for you.”
you have got to be kidding me!
and suddenly you are in charge of how “frum” someone should be? everyone has their own level of yiddishkeit and they are working on that, they listen to THEIR Rav dont preach where you have no schichus. The gedolim in lakewood do not know everyones story and so everyone has their own rav. who are you to say they are not respectable enough to listen to? Ive seen a number of people ask the same sheila to the same rav and he gave each of them different answers according to their situation. and p.s. i know a very rich family in town who donates a lot of money to yeshivos and shuls and their child was turned down from a lakewood school. what do you say to that? money is not EVERYTHING its something but if a school wants a certain type, then let it be. its their decision when its THEIR school. Should Harvard start letting in people with a not so decent SAT score so they wont hurt peoples feelings?
I myself am a vegetarian but i don’t preach to everyone else what to believe. this is a personal decision. im not necesarily a supporter of peta though. like i said a personal decision
yet another posting that leads to hostility and bashing. whats going on heree? doesnt anyone have anything better to do then to fight fight fight??? its ok to argue and disagree but when the post starts out innocent or wen you call eachothers names you are just being children
To be honest, I haven’t read most of the posts on this thread, but I happened to come across a few. The original poster seems to have just been writing something harmless about tznius, and 10 pages later, all I’m reading is the hostility everyone has for each other, and how much this post is being blown out of proportion.
I actually read a few other threads here in the coffee room, and no matter how innocent the post is, it always seems to turn into drama.
We obviously don’t all agree on the same things, but can’t we be a little more respectable and sensitive towards one another? We can argue our views, but why do people have to bash each other in doing so?
As for the topic of this post, I believe modest dressing has a lot to do with where you live. We obviously all know the simple definition of modesty, but there is a more complex definition in the Jewish sector of the world, and that’s where many of us disagree on. I have my personal (deeper) opinion of what I consider tznius, but I’m not going to elaborate on that, for I have just joined this group, and don’t feel comfortable about it yet.
“Why Yidden are the BEST!”
We as a nation stick together, and watch out for each other, that incident which just happened in Williamsburg, is proof of that.