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Laskern – We do mizvos by “ROTE”.
How does Lubavich explain “Ani Maamin…” HKB”H gives reward to those who obey his Mizvos, and punishes those who disregard them”?
S.char veonesh does NOT exist in Lubavich lexicon! According to the RAMBA”M, not believing any one of the 13 Principles of Faith is tantamount to kefirah CH”V!It was only 2 blown transformers@ Con Edison.
That the Rebbe is NOT Moshiach the can’t swallow, because he himself said that he is “Shevi’i kodesh Lashem”…. They can not accept any other scenario, & therefore they insist ….. as off the mark as it may be.
If he passes away, he is unsuccessful, since he can’t continue to do what he set out to do! Wrap your minds around it: THE REBBE IS not MOSHIACH, Clear?
@username – Of course we do mizvos, & HKB”H will give us s’char, still we are admonished “Al tihju keavodim …” we don’t do mizvos in order to get s’cher, likewise we don’t do mizvos to bring Moshiach. Of course we all hope & yearn for Moshiach, but that should not be the reason of doing mizvos. CLEAR?
Yes, we want to do ALL the mizvos, but that should NOT be the reason for doing it. In other words, don’t look at bias hamoshiach as the tachlis of doing the mizva. The tachlis of asiyas hamizva is tzivu Hashem.
One of the early Gedolei Chasidus (don’t remember who) said “If Hashem paid Gan Eden for aveiros, and Gehinom for mizvos, I would still do mizvos, because that is razon Hasem.
NOT FOR MOSHIACH!Hasem’s purpose in putting us in this world, is, to quote the TANYA “La’asos lo dira b’tachtonim” , via Mizvos uma’asim tovim! This means NOT working to bring the Geulah, but concentrating on limud haTora, & asiyas hamizva l’shem Hashem, WITHOUT any ulterior motives. “Neeman baal melachtecho leshalem s;char peulosecha” without our forcing the issue. This will only MINIMIZE our dedication of doing mizvos l’shem Hashem, because we will do it for OUR OWN GRATIFICATION. None of the first 5 Chabad Rebbes obsessed about Moshiach so much!
Show me ANY gadol b’yisroe’ – past or present – who was born on Av 9!
It must be in a ruchniasdig sense, just like Moshe Rabbenu was rescued from the water-in-the-basket (like a new birthday) on Sivan 6, because of Mattan Torah.
Another reason why Moshiach is not known till his hisgalus, and he is a NEW being.Sorry about stating that Yom Kippur Katan is from the Gemara, it was started by the RAMA”K. and by the AR”I Z”L.
How about – as mentioned earlier – NOT observing Yom Kippur Katan, because “Men hot shoin ausgepuzt die kneplach”? This was said 30-35 years ago by the Rebbe. Why are we still in Galus then? YKK is a din in Gemara and SA, so how do you say that it doesn’t have to be done?
Meile you don’t say it like not saying Tachnun, NU! But to come out & saying NOT TO SAY IT???If CS would have known what a “can of worms” – private shmutz – would become public knowledge through this Post, she would/should NEVER have started it. “K’var nishma keren B’yavne”!
Halevay we should hear BEKAROV!! Shofro Shel Moshiach.HOW!! do you go about killing EVERY GOY for not being mekabel 7 Mizvos B’nei Noach? And what nafka mina is it today? What weight does it carry in whether the Rebbe is Moshiach?
In other words, ma inyan shmitta ecel Har Sinai???Vehayiso MESHUGO mimar’ei enecho – without proper guidance, you come up with crooked “oitaich” of Halacha, and wid up in Sheol Tachtis CH”V!
Re; Bais Moshiach, one can ask “Ele elohecha Yisroel?!”
He is d–d!This was a few years before the Rebbe’s petrira. I knew a “tunkele” aide, who visited mainly Yiddishe seniors mainly in Crown Heights & Williamsburg. “Mesiach lefi Tumoh” she said that “The women in Williamsburg are much more modestly dressed than in Crown Heights”. Need I say more?
Even if we accept that the Rebbe Z”L was Moshe while living, but who is Moshe NOW???
A young BT lady in Crown Neights told me once: “When my baby gets up in the morning, I wash him negel wasser, say “Mode Ani” with him, and let him kiss the picture of the Rebbe”. If that is not AZ, I don’t know what is…
Although the more seasoned chasidim are not into this deification, they should put a stop to such practices. It besmirches the WHOLE chasidus. A pity the Rebbe did not designate a successor.Lubavitch is in a STATE OF A”Z (ch”v) AND DON’T MISUNDERSTAND IT!
Is something isn’t done to curb it, …If you have nothing better to do than musing on such trivialities, go to a shiur, or say some Tehilim. Don’t waste your EMPTY MIND on figuring out “Devarim shel ma b’kach!”
If the moshol of the Rebbe operating the light switch WITHOUT Hashem (Ch”v), how does that agree with “EIN OD MILVADO”?
Well, to make the anology to an earlier “jewish” offshoot, Dec 25, & Easter
are ALSO “Chaga of Chagoos” (ch”y), but it seems to sollow in the same footsteps … Leider!OK! Shoin! Let’s put this thread to sleep. Neither side will capitulate, and this back-and-forth will go on “biz Moshiach wett kumen”.
Good Night…I am not talking about fasting. But don’t say that “Oisgeputzt the kneplach”, and according to CS ” The World is in a State of Geulah”. What fantasy are you living? There isn’t a day that is not worse than the previous one, and we are in a state of geulah!? PHEW! Go bury yourself 6-feet under and scream that you are alive. Who will listen to you?
WAKE UP AND FACE REALITY!As far as Username’s statement of “mevatel Mizvos”, what do you call those 2 separate tapes from the Rebbe stating that; WE DON’T HAVE TO OBSERVE (say Selichos etc) ON BEHA”B, BECAUSE MEN HOT SHOIN AUSGEPUTZT DIE KNEPLACH.” We are in a Galus chosech, where there are unprovoked attacks on Yidden all over – Crown Heights, Williamsburg, Boro Park,… and where not? Is this what we get for being a “Dor shekulo zakkai, “men hot oisgeputzt die kneplach”? Take off your sunglasses and look around you! You will not see the sun, you will see a golus chosech that get worse from day-to-day.
NOR HAS ANYONE …. INSERT LEADER’S NAME IN TEFILLOS
Tefila b’ad sholom hamedina! Maybe, if we, Heimishe Olam, started doing it, we would have a better country?OK, kinderlach! It is a “New Year” let bygones be bygones, and let us concentrate on Sholom V’shalva, Achdus V’reus. That is the ONLY WAY that we will be zocheh to the Geulah.
Oh boy! Like the Rebbe always said “Torah chadasha” will emerge upon Moshiach’s arrival. He has arrived, so there is a “new” Torah …
Hmmm? So what??? Just shows that you should NOT be involved in machlokes, esp. those that don’t affect you one way or another…
THIS Chasidus is “Finster wie die Nacht”!
Good! tell THAT to a Lubavitcher, and he will show you his true colors…..
Would the Besh”t’s sfarim, or those of the Mezhricher Magid go on top of the Tanya, since they were the teachers/Rabbeim of the Baal Hatanya? & if so, why not a Mishnayos & Gemarah?
How could an Achron be chashuver than the Gemarah?????Laskern, my HAT is off to you. To be so knowledgeable about so many different subjects, -esp. upon perusing your posts on the Parshios – I really admire your knowledge. Mama”sh a Gaon!
“Let’s daven for the right reasons” Hamispalel b’ad chavero v’hu zorich lleosa dovor, HU ne’ene techila” Let us daven for Hashem to free HIMSELF from the “chains of galus” and so, He will answer us faster. Let’s forget about WHO Moshiach might be, and that we are hurting. Let’s prioritize zaar haSchina. Uvo l’Zion goel.
If I believe something & keep it to myself, iz a halbe zoro. However, if I try to prostelize about it & make others believe it that is a NO NO!
Let them keep their “deos kozvos” to themselves, & not be missioners and make an A Z of their rebbe.laskern – ask mods for my e-mail
Still, the root of all evil is sinas chinom, we can not bear someone else enjoying it. In Hell everyone has a plate of soup, the spoons have lo-o-ng handles.. What?! I have to feed someone else & not be able to feed myself?laskern- “Uforatzto … etc,” is a Lubavicher march – LOL! But seriously, it is also siyum of Ms’ Sota and other places in Sha”s. So, what is keeping us back? Moshiach wants to come, “v’ein hadovor toluy ela b’teshuva”.
B TW, you were by R Holzer? I think I know you.I think that all the upheavals in the world – both Jewish and secular – is to bring about the Gemara “ma’amid aleihem melch kosho keHaman” so that EVERYONE should beg for the Geulah! Things are going from bad to worse. Out in the general word, fighting within nations, internal unrest in the biggest and strongest dictatorships; here in the US, we have natural disasters, one after another – droughts, fires, and floods, not to say anything about our refugee crisis, AND the rising Antisemitism.
Hashem is shaking the world, so we should wake up and acknowledge that He is the ONLY ONE who can take us out of this bitter Galus.TomimTeHuje – right on! Tomim Huje, off the deep end…
I was right with my previous post. With no central manhig/rebbe to show the way,everyone comes up with their own “Boich Svaras”.
Whether it is “Ezra” or “levy” Ginzburg, there are new deities, and new rebbes in Lubavich. Ein melech b’Yisroel ish kol hayoshor b’einov yaase. At this rate, the whole chasidus is in danger of collapse, more from infighting than external pressure. The responsible rabbonim should do something about it!edited
CS – In many Chasidic shuls no Tachnun is said if there is a Rebbe’s yarzeit, although, in some shuls the instigator of the yarzeit observance
has to give Tikkun.
People are quite lax about saying extra things, even Yom Kippur Katan in most communities, but to come out and say that we have “oisgepuzt die kneplach”, is mamesh going AGAINST the Shulchan Aruch! One must have “brete pleizces” to say such a thing.It is one thing not to say Yom Kippur Kattan, whether laziness, inconvenient, or just plain negligence, but it is a different pot of soup when you say that it is NOT NECESSARY to say it, because we are CLEAN OF AVEIROS! If we are so clean, WHY is Moshiach not here yet? This borders on “Megale panim b’Torah…”
We don’t say Tachnun either on many days that are NOT mentioned in Shulchan Aruch just b/c we don’t feel like it, but we are NOT MEVATEL A HALACHA PESUKA!One of your previous posts: “One is condidered a tzadik and should be followed, UNLESS, he tells you to worship other gods, or tells you to not observe one of the Mizvos”
Sorry to harp in like this, but I have 2 cassettes on which the Rebbe says that “We don’t have to do Yom Kippur Kattan”, because “Mir hobben shoin oisgeputzt die knepplich”.!! Yom Kippur Kattan that was established by Chacmei Hasha”s, is mentioned in the Talmud, is a Halacha in Shulchan Aruch – including Shulcha Aruch Harav- so how does a contemporary Rav take upon himself to abolish it?laskern – Akkor ismerjuk egymast – the best way is to do like Rabbi Meir with his Rebbi, eat the insides, throw away the peel….
laskern – Volt maga Asztenba? I explained it already, please tell the MOD to post it
Sever with a SIN is hope like “Einei chol elecha YESABERU”
Sever with SAMECH is an expression of “Mekabel es kol odom B’SEVER ponim yofos”
Meg ertettem?Yes! When the guest knocks on the door, he knocks “b’sever ponim yofos”
-sever with a “SIN”.
When the ba’al habayis opens the door, he does “b’sever ponim yofos” –
sever with a “SAMECH”.Good night! Enough SHTUS already. We all know where we are in this world.
This thread is NOT marbe k’vod Shamayim – perhaps the opposite?
DAYENUAMEIN! And we “always” lived happily ever-after.
NOT B4 bias haMoshiach.