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JOSEPH YOU ARE SO HOPELESSY WRONG on this issue remeber Bush is just a gentile not a saint he uses nivel peh too
im sorry but Pres. Bush was a failer. He made a war in Iraq for nothing. He did not catch bin laden. And he was not conserative enough. He spent (wasted) Trillions of $. Stop defending this loser who GOT US INTO THIS MESS. if not for him, we would not have obama as pres. or even a canadate like mccain who nooone wanted untill obama became a threat. stop speaking shtussim! you people are like sheep. u listen to rush and sean for endless hours an buy into thier egoistic nonscence. SHAME ON YOU.
jewishfeminist02 there are also some frum men and boys who are terribly shy of woman, have rachmunis on them. (please dont take this the wrong way)
jewishfeminist02
i disagree with u on 2 points a: i would not tell someone to conform to me, however when someone claims that “The orthodoxy we know is not true Judaism”, i will not stand idlely by and shviig (remain silent). B: there is only one truth. (not like the liberel minded think)However, that does not give me the right to force people to think and act like me. The Torah teaches however that proper ACTIONS are neccasary regardless to ones belife. On cannot eat chazer and say “hey all hashem wants from us is to try”. In the Kuzari an important tenant of Judaism is stated “your intentions are good, however your actions are not good”
I would like to stress that i would not “start up” with a “modern looking guy” on the street, or in this forum either, unprovoked. I will hoever if he starts to make outrageous claims such as “The orthodoxy we know is not true Judaism”, covering hair is not an halacha etc… Thank you for your understanding
jewishfeminist02 “He pontificates about how a Jew should lead his life.”
Right, and the rest of us never do that.
you missed thee point! someone who is not observent should not preach to observent jews how to lead their lives. everything that zevi says reeks of apikorsus. he is nebach a apikorus, who is unaware, or denys basic halacha. zevi also stated that we are less than 10%. So what? Observent jews have to conform to the majority? No, they have to conform to us because we follow the true torah. Its interesting to note that one time a tzedduke (i may be misquoting the story, so please correct me) aske a tanna or amora: it says in your torah “thou shaleth follow the majority”, so therefor why dont the jews follow in the ways of the nations who are the majority? He answered that this law only applys if there is a doubt, we dont have adoubt!
agav by lowering our standard to conform to the nations, and to mekarev others is wrong. Why? b/c if we lower our standards it shows that their way of life has validity just like ours, and we could compromise. Truth need not compromise, and if you feel the the torah is not true then regect it totally,and please and dont try to corrupt it.you feel the
zevi8 said “The orthodoxy we know is not true Judaism.”
zevi8: So you are not orthodox . if you dont eat the food got out of the kitchen. you dont have any legitamacy at all for you have decided that all the gedolim, and frum yidden are not practicing true judaism. therfore halacha has no meaning to you. then you complain…. why do you care its not judaism?!
jewishfeminist02 face it, you are paranoid!
jewishfeminist02 i disagree with u on that point.the are plentyof them
there is no prob with a man not responding to a gut shabbos to a woman. second some people (im surprised to here this append in baltimore) just dont say gut shbbos to anyone.
zevi8: frum jews dont look down at people who dont cover their hair, wear jeans etc… they try to mekarev them (just look at oorah etc.)however they look down at people who justify all the sins they commit by denying dass torah, and denying the concept tht there are halochos derabanan which are like deoraisa (veosisa kechol asher yorucha.
ii think the reason you are upset is that the torah and her folowers worldview does not fit yours. therefore you negate all those concepts which are not in your worldview as not being torah. im sorry but the torah has been here a long time and in every generation there have been people who have tryed to do the same thing you are doing. starting off from korach untill the modern day reformers. unfortunatley those on the fringes of othodoxcy are doing the same thing, fooling themselves.
i once had the zechus of hearing R’ Yasskov Galinsky speak. he said in his speach that everthing can be foun in the torah. for example a man owes another man money. when the lender comes for payment the borrower tells him “thou shalleth not opress him” and the lender retorts “a wicked man dosent pay”. they are both right but wrong.. the verse “thou shalleth not opress him” is for the lender, however “a wicked man dosent pay”. is for the borrower…think about that …. and remember to be honest with yourself and G-d.
zevi8: i live in lakewood and i havent seen anyone acting rude towards a blue shirted hattless guy b/c of ibid.u r probably very paranoid about how people treat u. whenever someone cuts u of on rt. 9 u prob. think its b/c u r “modern”.
where did u get ur info that the yeshivos look the other way if there is $?
8 yrs ago the internet was not as pervasive as it is today
ModernLakewoodGuy: its true what u r saying but times have changed. u DID NOT move into lakewood so noone can question why u moved here. u have a good “tayneh”, however i wish u luck, and a brocha that u should start to appreciate bnei torah and the good influence they bring.
sorry mariner and bugnot your right and im wrong. agav its ironic that “mariner” knew that its a ship. 🙂
Give Me a Break: no prob, I just hope that the editor will understand what is going on. just wondering? if multiple personality is a mental disorder(im assuming thats the case i pesonally dont know anything about this subject), then why is the editor so uptight? a person who has this disorder has multiple personalitys, he is not doing anything malicious! he is just argueing with a different personality, (just as we all are doing, except that in his cace it is the same person) which should be legit 🙂
mariner
talk about ignorance! You obiously dont use yehivanet!
what does “Iran Deyanat?” mean? is that shprach part of the raid the oilam nutzes? antshildig ich farshey nit!
lemaysuh its takeh ah peleh. uder its a big cover up, or lhd”m! ah gooten reb bugnot
Sarah: just b/c s/o has yeshivanet doesent mean that he wont play “devils advocate” and furthermore, say he is left leaning, however he may have a wife who isnt and is smart enough not to let the treifnet into the house.
to answer your miami question, yeshivanet comes in 2 forms 1. dial up from anywhere in usa as long as you have local # or have unlimited long distance 2. dsl (wherever verizon is available)
i am not a computer person but its seems to me very pushut why yeshivanet works that way. yeshhivanet works as a lan (local area network) because it is a firewall. ich mein azoi
chalish: you are 100% correct. why do these people move to lakewood and then kvetch when their children dont get into schools? come on! lakewood is a yeshivisher place for the most part, please dont move here if you wont fit in (for your own sake). would you move to harlem and then bash the people there for not “shtelling tzoo” to you? Also, these “open minded people” are only open minded to the ideas of the gentiles and apoikorsim however they are not open minded to the ideas of the torah and our gedolim, whom which they constantly question. and they bash lakewood as if that the life they are leading is so much superior than the benei torah.
zevi8 stop stereotyping, your are talking nonsence.
“arah”and give me a break which internet provider are u using? i am using yeshivanet. maybe that is the answer
Give Me a Break: just realistic. what do u mean by “what are you doing to me?!” r u one of those corrupt gov. or an aspiring getto builder (lakewood developer)?
there is nothing to do about it. have u ever heard of goverment thats not corrupt? everyone does whats best for themselves, and the developers are no different. if u were a developer u would turn the entire lakewood into westgate with parking spaces if u would be able to get away with it. the goverment also …. they somehow gain by promoting urban blight $?
Agav I heard yesturday, that photo express in lakewood was full of people geting passport photos!