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DY: The reason for the Issur is that Devarim Shenahagu Bahem Issur Ee Atah Rashai Lehatiram Bifneihem (I might be a word or two off in that phrase). Since Yom Tov Sheni is a Minhag Bechul Tefutzos Klal Yisrael (outside of E”Y), the Shulchan Aruch rules that it is Assur to do Melacha anywhere within a Techum that Jews live. It seems Pashut that non-Frum Jews don’t count here, because they are not Noheg Issur on Yom Tov Sheni. This isn’t about Maris Ayin or Chashad. The point is that it’s Assur to be Noheg Heter in front of someone who is Noheg Issur. It’s not a Din in “Parhesia” like other things are.

Now, your Ta’ana about people knowing the schedule is a pretty good one, but I don’t think it counts. Everyone knows that people in E”Y are Noheg Heter. That doesn’t count as being Noheg Heter in front of someone who is Noheg Issur. I hear a small Chiluk, but the point is the same. We know that our relatives/friends/whoever staying in a hotel outside of town aren’t keeping Yom Tov Sheni also, but that doesn’t count as being Meshaneh from the Minhag either. I don’t think it’s about knowledge. It’s about Mamash doing something in front of them.

Again, your Ta’ana about El Al employees is a good one. I don’t know if that’s the airline’s issue or not. I hear both Tzdadim. But unless you want to Ta’ana that a flight attendant creates a problem of Ma’aseh Yom Tov (assuming you hold of such a thing, I think it’s a Machlokes Rishonim IIRC), then there is no issue for the passenger (if the pilot was a non-Frum Jew who lives in CHU”L, then it might be a problem).

Pinchas: To answer your problem, look up if there is a hotel right by the airport that is not within (or near) the edge of the Five Towns. If there is, take a cab from the airport to there. There is no problem with that whatsoever (as long as you don’t have to go through the 5T to get to the hotel). Just pay for a room for 1 day and chill there until Yom Tov ends and you can enter the city.

DY: Yes, I meant for applause.

DY: Of course. But it’s self-contradictory to not clap. That was his point.

Joseph: He doesn’t purchase it back. That’s not how it works. The analogy to a mortgage on a house is accurate. If you default, the bank takes the house back. All the bank can tell you is “pay up or give back the house”. They can’t force you to keep the house and pay for it. The same thing is here. It’s the Goy’s Chametz and he owes you money. You can’t force him to pay that money. What you can do, though, which is what we all do, is to tell him “either pay full price or give back the Chametz”.

Shopping: Look up the Halachos of a Mezuman. It’s OC 192 in Shulchan Aruch and somewhere in the 40s in the Kitzur, I think. There are some relatively strong rules, but much of it is kinda subjective as to how to define “eating together”.

shmelkee: R’ Moshe famously is Mattir it in OC 1:167 (give or take). Others argue.

sy: Coke is Kitniyos. Bedieved, it’s Battel B’rov.

AY: I wonder who you asked. I got that same answer from a major Posek. I also got the exact opposite answer from R’ Elyashiv (well, not me; a Posek who I was standing next to when he asked R’ Elyashiv). R’ Elyashiv said that a computer screen constitutes writing and is Assur on Chol HaMoed (and that learning Torah on a screen is really bad because it’s an Issur D’Oraisa of Lo Sa’asun Kein when you close/change the screen).

Lichora whether we hold Chol Hamoed is D’Oraisa or D’Rabannan would matter here. If you hold it’s D’Rabannan, then Chazal were never Gozer typing. If it’s D’Oraisa, then I could still hear both sides.

DY: I think that Minhagim are very strong. I’m saying Kitniyos is Assur MiTa’am Minhag, not a real D’Rabannan. It makes perfect sense to use the word “Assur” in that context, but it is not a real “Isser” per se. Does that make sense?

And there are some real Nafka Minos here. For example, I know of major Poskim who are Mattir Kitniyos for those with (real) gluten allergies/celiac disease, because limiting them to only potatoes (and now quinoa) all of Pesach is just too much. That would never happen with something we treat as a D’Rabannan, but by a Minhag there is a tiny bit more wiggle room.

DY: I said the strength of a Minhag was considerable. It’s not quite a real Lo Sasur (which is reserved for Issurei D’Rabannan), so I would assume that that line was Derech Melitzah.

mw: Yom Tov Sheni is a Din D’Rabannan, even if the origin was a “Minhag”.

NCB: It’s a Gemara in Yevamos by doing Chalitzah with a Sandal, and the same should apply here. Once something is Nahug, not even Eliyahu can be Mevatel it.

Joseph: We have somehow found a way to pay people for learning Torah, more than the Gemara seemingly allows. The Poskim discuss it and fight Heterim. But if what Health claimed isn’t a violation of Af Atem B’chinam, then nothing is.

Both are Minhagim. Shalom Bayis probably trumps (relatively) late Minhagim. And even if it doesn’t (and I understand completely why it doesn’t), it would seem too much of a stretch to extend it to Blios in the Keilim (especially when it’s explicit in Poskim that we’re not Choshesh for Blios of Kitniyos).

DY: So it’s not a Gemara, and he seems to say it as Eretz Yisrael will conquer the whole world, not that the whole world magically becomes part of Eretz Yisrael. (To be fair, though, I don’t think Health’s claim went contrary to that.)

Health: Pay you to tell me? If you knew Gemara you’d know that it’s Assur to take money for teaching Divrei Torah like that.

But I’m only being arrogant if I’m wrong. I’m still pretty sure I’m not wrong. There is no such Gemara. If you want to claim that there is, Alecha Lehavi Ra’aya. Quote the Gemara.

I believe La Choy soy sauce is completely gluten free and tastes completely normal.

Health: Then what is the Zionist propaganda that you are decrying?

“When Moshiach comes, we will have the whole world.”

Where do you get that from? Eretz Yisrael won’t be the whole world.

yekke: R’ J. David/R’ Dovid Bleich was one of the major Talmidim of both R’ Moshe and R’ Soloveitchik and is a Posek and tremendous Talmid Chacham in Manhattan, and is respected by the entire world as such. (Although he is not a major Posek, and does not want to be, because he acknowledges that he has some… unique Shittos.)

nisht: I have heard major Talmidei Chachamim/Poskim say that the “no mishing” idea is a very inappropriate Chumra.

Joseph: All of Klal Yisrael is Raui to share one Korban Pesach. Veshachatu Oso Kol K’hal Adas Yisrael. We are not Karaites who take the simple reading of Pesukim instead of Torah Sheba’al Peh.

(Although, just to remove a possible Stirah, it probably is Davka by Pesach Mitzrayim that you needed a Seh LaBayis because it was Assur to leave your house on Leil Pesach to eat at someone else. In fact, this answer is too good and simple that is has to be a Gemara or Chazal somewhere. Anyone help?)

The problem with the Mizmor L’David’s explanation is that you have to be above the arctic circle to get to a point where the day is that short even at the winter solstice, and there were no Jewish communities that far north at a time when the Minhag already existed (we have no idea how old the minhag is, but it is at least 700 years old).

The Mizmor L’David brings us to a far more important point, one which my Rebbe won’t let me be Machmir on (and certainly not Meikel, because he says such a Chumra is so not accepted so it has to be wrong), namely that the 6 hours between meat and milk should be Shaos Zmanios.

3rd Perek of Brachos. And at least one of those covers cannot be Meyuchad for the Sefer.

Joseph: Yes, they start eating dairy either 5.5 hours after or a little over 5 hours after. I have seen this Minhag lots of places, including among some in Chareidi communities in Eretz Yisrael.

Joseph: What do you mean, “how does it work”? I don’t know where they came from, and I haven’t seen it mentioned in old Seforim, but the Minhagim are at least (from thirdhand testimony) well over 100 years old, for whatever that’s worth.