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nisht: Most “MO” are conservatives. By a pretty wide margin.
Learn Hilchos Eruvin. If they protest, you kinda can’t do it. (I don’t actually know Hilchos Eruvin, but I seem to recall this being true.)
It’s brilliant until they read this thread and get super-insulted.
MA: Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai was a Nasi. So he’s Rabban, not Rabbi.
MA: Rabbi/Rebbe Shimon Bar Yochai. “Rabban” is reserved for the Nasi.
Joseph: I’m saying what the father’s answer to Rav Shteinman probably was/should have been. And it’s a pretty strong answer. Maybe R’ Shteinman would have had an even stronger response after that.
DY: I agree. The story needs many more details to be useful/meaningful
DY: Maybe. The story needs more details.
stam: In France, where the attack occurred, it was Chukas.
DY: It depends on whether it was a school rule that he violated or whether they made the rule post facto once he wore the Kippah. If the former, I agree with you. If the latter, I agree with me.
42: I was told that in Europe there were some communities with the custom to fast the 9th and not the 17th, even though it’s against all the Sefarim. Supposedly it’s a very old Minhag. But I never really looked into it in detail.
DY: That’s not true. It’s human nature. Imagine you enjoy humming along while you walk. Then someone comes up and says that he’ll kick you out of shul if you keep doing it. Humming isn’t a meaningful activity, but you’re not going to stop just because someone makes up some meaningless attack on it.
MA: Where do you get this Amaratzus from?
Oh, and you’re doubly wrong. Tishah B’av and 17 Tammuz can’t fall out on a Friday, but if they did we would fast on Friday. It’s an explicit Gemara that we don’t make these fasts earlier.
midwesterner: Because that’s human nature. If we do things that are meaningless yet innocuous and are attacked for it, we defend our actions. The person doesn’t want to switch because there is no reason to. And it is usually very upsetting (and a little emasculating and/or dehumanizing) to be forced not to do something that is perfectly okay to do just because someone else doesn’t want you to.
Abba_S: Did you see the NYT headline?
IITFT: Yep. When I learned Bava Kama years ago I wondered if bullfighting was a modern application of Shor Ha’itztadin, so I looked into how bullfighting works. It’s not fighting a bull so much as an artistic way of killing it. (At least, that’s the theory.)
dafb: I disagree with you, only because a bull in a bullfight does not have the status of a Shor Ha’itztadin. It’s not trained to fight or kill. It’s just in close proximity to a person who will kill it during the performance. The bulls referred to in the Gemara were actually trained to kill people in coliseums and similar venues; as such, any killing they committed was an Ones. These bulls are different. They’re just there until people walk up to them and start attacking them with swords. It would be no different than any individual walking up to a bull on a farm and attacking it. If that bull killed in self-defense/retaliation, it would be Chayav Misah because there is no Heter of “self-defense” by animals. That’s what a bullfight is the same is. It’s not the same as a trained killing bull fighting a gladiator in a coliseum.
charlie: “Ditto every other police shooting of an African American. Like Philando Castile whose crime was to have a busted taillight — and a legal concealed weapon for which he had a permit. (The National Rifle Association has been conspicuously silent regarding Castile’s death, raising justified outrage at its silence. Apparently it believes that only white people have a right to bear arms.)”
You are behind the times. The cops said he was pulled over for more than a busted taillight. And the only person who claims he had a permit was the girlfriend. No one has corroborated that. Also, the NRA did release a statement. A while ago.
ubiq and DY: Why not? Why don’t we make a Shaliach from the Chassan and Kallah as the two biggest Kibbudim?
iacisrmma: Yes, the Chosson is necessary also. But so are the Eidim.
Yeah. That kid was bad. These guys last week were fan. They were beat-boxing.
I would think that Eidus is far more important than Krias Hakesubah. After all, a monkey can do Krias HaKesubah. Eidei Kiddushin are what actually makes the marriage happen. Why wouldn’t that be most important?
AGT is a talent show, not a “reality” show. There’s a difference in those genres. Reality shows are almost always perverse and disgusting. Talent competitions are not always so (though they sometimes are).
Also, a Smicha student recently appeared on American Ninja Warrior (it’s an obstacle course-running show).
Leyzer: He said it in Matnas Chaim on Purim, no?
DY: I think Trump has proven that. He has threatened the USGA with political reprisals over something as petty as them moving a tournament off of one of his golf courses (which is not a national security issue, but would definitely hurt the economy).
His threat to “make the wall 10 feet taller” when he didn’t like something the former Mexican president said about him is something petty and personal that will definitely have national security implications.
Also, he won’t release his tax records because he intentionally undervalues his properties by extreme amounts to avoid paying taxes on them, putting the burden of his wealth on regular citizens.
Joseph: Eh. It’s not crazy. Some even read the Rambam in the Moreh that way. Certainly the concept of Mitzvos/Halachos D’Oraisa being given as they were because Klal Yisrael at Mattan Torah was not in a position to accept otherwise is a serious opinion in the Rishonim (they say it by Korbanos, Goel HaDam, and some others). That doesn’t make it any less binding or mean it can ever change. It just explains why those Mitzvos were given as they were.
Joseph: Right. They wore Kippot and Tzitzis while on the reality shows.
Joseph: Why negative, if I may ask?
Rebyidd: I did see some people quoted on Twitter saying that the cop shooting was a false flag to take attention away from the fact that cops shot two black people last week.
mw13 and iacisrmma: Yes, and the protocol is that they clear the car, person by person, to avoid anyone potentially reaching for the weapon. He should not have reached for anything until the car was clear.
The Louisiana case he was already subdued and on the ground. There was no need to shoot him, even though he had a gun in the back of his waistband.
charlie, wolf, and rebyidd: The facts of the case in Minnesota so far seem to be that he told the police he had a (legal) gun. Protocol in such a case is to keep your hands in plain sight until the police have inspected your license and secured the weapon until they are done dealing with you. He, for whatever reason, thought he should get his registration before the cops told him to. The cop shot him as soon as his hand entered his bag, which is exactly what police are supposed to do in this situation.
The case in Louisiana seems much more clear-cut and, unless some new evidence comes out, those police officers will actually spend a long time in jail for murder.
mdd: You can take lots of statements from Chazal to claim that lots of things are worse than others. And charlie is right that we should worry about fixing issues in our own communities before fixing other communities.
mdd: “YU-style wiggling”? What the heck is that supposed to mean? I’m pointing out that you made a bad comparison. It’s bad for married women to Davka attract attention and incite desire in young boys (which is what the Hemshech of the Gemara there says). That tells nothing about unmarried woman perhaps unwittingly attracting attention. Nothing.
Health: You’re giving lots of reasons why Obama has done bad things. Last I heard, he wasn’t running for reelection right now.
golfer: That might be true of modern hair dyes. It wasn’t of dyes in the olden days.
It’s Gneivah from lots of people, Oshek, a Chillul Hashem if done by a company, and potentially others.
Joseph: Wrong. The other side for #3 is numerous Issurei D’Oraisa.
mdd: Gemora in Shabbos (based on Psukim in Yishaya) castigates married women from the times of the Bais Rishon for beautifying themselves excessively (and it was done for purposes of attracting men). It is easy to infer from there (and from stam common sense) that it is wrong for a married woman to appear in public wearing tons of make-up and so on (even if we judge her favorably and presume that she does not do it to attract men).
No, you can learn from there that Davka trying to attract man (and these are married, not unmarried, women) is a bad thing. Your comparison is just wrong. It’s a Mah Matzinu from Chamur to Kal. It doesn’t work.
Nechomah: I believe you are incorrect. Nail polish would not be a Chatzitzah as it’s Miut V’eino Makpid.
Joseph: I can hear both sides for all of the others, but I don’t understand your answer to #3.
Joseph: Ties started in the court of King Louis XIV in the 1700s.
including specific limitations and measurements. The seforim throughout history address these
They kinda don’t. These Halachos are left relatively straightforward and implicit, rather than explicit, for good reason. Halacha says elbows, knees, is a little unclear on where by the neck, and a “tefach” everywhere else.
It is also the husband’s and father’s halachic responsibility to insure members of his household are in compliance with these halachas.
This is an oft-repeated falsehood. There is no specific Halachic responsibility by here. No more so than anyone who can be Mocheh in a breach of Halachah is obligated to do so. There is nothing special about this Mitzvah in this regard.
golfer: I am going to very, very strongly disagree with you, and I hope I’m not rude. A Rosh Yeshivah once told me that over-obsessing about the Halachos of Tznius is itself a lack of Tznius. And he’s right. But that doesn’t mean that people who learn Torah are not entitled and able to have opinions on these topics. They’re in Shulchan Aruch for a reason. Yes, over-obsession is bad. But you are absolutely wrong when you say that men shouldn’t discuss it at all. There is a Chiyuv on men to know Kol HaTorah Kullah, which includes this. So don’t tell people what Torah not to learn.
Of course women don’t “have to”. They don’t have to say Krias Shma. It would be kind of silly not to. It’s a pretty easy Mitzvah to fulfill.
NCB: I would assume that, as long as you walk in during the Muttar time, the door sensor is considered a Psik Reisha D’lo Nicha Leih. That’s the only thing I can think of.
About letting a non-Jew push the buttons. I think the theory is that when you get in, you are doing nothing to the elevator vis-a-vis your weight. Sure, a Melacha will happen one the elevator starts to move, but that’s a Grama at worst because right now all you’re doing is standing there. If you walked in after the Goy pushed the button and while the elevator was about to start to move, it would be more of a problem. But if you’re in there before a button is even pressed, then it’s for sure nothing more than a Grama by being Shev V’al Ta’aseh when he pushes the button.
I have been told that R’ Schachter and many others are Meikel using a Goy to push the elevator if there is a significant number of stairs. The logic is that it’s a Shvus (Amira L’akum) Dishvus (electricity) BeMakom Oneg Shabbos because walking up a ton of stairs is a lack of Oneg Shabbos. R’ Schachter has also said that it’s Assur to move into a building Lechatchilah where you know that this will be the case.
mdd: Will you stop making up what’s “objectively attracting”? The Gemara and Halacha says that women wore makeup and dyes to color their bodies. It doesn’t say it’s Assur. Nowhere does it say that a woman may not wear these in public. Learn Orach Chaim 74 and Even Ha-Ezer 21. Why is nail polish worse than any colored clothing or painting one’s face?
Also, from R’ Karelitz and R’ Kanievsky, it seems they were misinformed as to how Shabbos elevators work. There are good reasons to Asser, but from their description it seems they are under the impression that the amount of electricity used changes when someone is on it.
DY and Joseph: As of now, escalators (in the US, at least) do not change how much energy they use regardless of who or what is on it.
DY: I don’t see how it’s Uvdin D’chol. It’s not related to any Asei at all, really. Escalators are not bicycles.
DY: Please show me that TZ”E. I cannot imagine why an escalator would be Assur if it’s constantly running.
DY: I do know of some contemporary Poskim who quietly allow it. It is very unclear what the Issur is and where it came from. As such, there are Poskim who are Meikel for even the smallest of reasons.
mdd: That’s silly. Also, it is a pointless and useless argument. You can make anything up and say “if you were a guy you’d understand”. We have Halachos. Those determine what’s Muttar for a woman to do. if you, as a man, find something outside that attention-drawing, then it’s your job to avoid it.
square root of 2: It’s B’feirush in Shulchan Aruch (maybe it’s a Mishnah Berurah) that if it’s to help one concentrate on Tefillah (because he would be hungry), it’s Muttar. I’m no Rav, but I would assume the Chazzan case is the same. Ayein Sham, Orach Chaim Siman 90 or so.
MA: You are completely wrong. Coffee is Muttar (according to most, not all) because it’s normal to drink coffee as part of a waking-up routine and it isn’t considered rude to HKBH to do before Davening. Other (non-water) drinks are not permitted before Davening. In fact, the Mishnah Berurah thinks it’s Assur to even put milk in pre-Davening coffee, though most Poskim nowadays think it’s okay because so few people take their coffee black.
shopping: Because we assume that some types of inappropriate things affect men more than women.
DY: Wikipedia kinda seems to agree with him.
“The term fedora was in use as early as 1891. Its popularity soared, and eventually it eclipsed the similar-looking homburg.[1] [10] [2][11] After Prince Edward of Britain started wearing them in 1924, it became popular among men for its stylishness and its ability to protect the wearer’s head from the wind and weather.”
DY: Why do I need the Rashba to tell me that? The Gemara says it. Mach’chish Magideha.