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June 12, 2017 7:36 am at 7:36 am in reply to: What Happened With Ezras Nashim In Boro Park On Monday Night? #1293194Saichel yashorParticipant
Health: Are your initials RF and happen to be a judge….
Most of us don’t worship Hatzoloh rather appreciate the amazing lifesaving work they do and don’t like when other people disturb that work in exchange for people that can hardly put on a band aid.June 11, 2017 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm in reply to: What Happened With Ezras Nashim In Boro Park On Monday Night? #1293066Saichel yashorParticipantI have read all of he recent news about the EN. I don’t know how much of these stories are made up but there is definitely some truth here.
After looking at the EN website and other info about the organization I don’t understand how they can do what they are doing. I can understand having women for basic birth related emergencies but that’s all, for many reasons. Everyone agrees that Hatzolah is faster more professional and has years of experience. Along with the experience is knowing what to do in cases far and beyond what they are trained for. To have a new organization come and try to get experience at the cost of other lives is crazy. They also don’t come close to as many members which will impact response time. Another thing when it comes to response time is the physical aspect men can move faster, drive faster and don’t have tzinius to worry about when they are running (yes women must worry about tznius even on a call.
That’s all for practical reasons. As far as Halacha men can treat women on calls, however this whole thing of women going out on calls is not acceptable for tznius reasons. I also don’t see a single endorsement for going on full time emergencies. The videos from Reb Chaim and Reb Aaron Leib said that its an organization where women help out childbirth that’s it not running on calls of all facets. Reb Yizchok zilberstein and Rav Elya Ber said that if the women are equally as good to deliver care then go with them, however they are not on par with Hatzolah. The letter from Rebbetzin Kalodetsky has nothing to do with EN rather a group of women in Beitar Illit.
Lastly if this organization was kullo lishma it’s one thing, however hearing words like we do all Mens jobs so why can’t we do this as well, which was said on an interview, as well as advertising to drive that you will get a car with lights and sirens doesn’t sound lishma to me.
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