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J. again iwm sorry fot the misuderstanding, although i realise why you misuderstood me. let me explain.
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The shulchan Oruch lists two options for what defines a reshus harabim de’oyraisa, who in our context a place where an eiruv does not help.
1) any road 16 amos wide
2)yesh oimrim, a road on which 600,000 travel every day.
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Although the pashtus in mechaber may sound like the first shita, as he refers to the secod as a yesh oimrim, nonetheless, the mogan Avraham, Taz, and Mishna Berura, all clearly state that one who chooses to rely on te makilim ??? ????? ???? the Taz further adds that this was indeed the minhag.
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It being that there is no road in london which reaches that amount it may seem obvious the room for kula.
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At this point, both the Chazoin Ish and r’ moishe throw a spanner in the works. The yesh oimrim in the mechaber is based on Rashi and the Mordechai, yet they do not refr 600,000 every day, rather to a town of 600k. As such they suggest that roads in such towns may have problems.
R’ moishe however carefully defines this, howver. (orach chayim 4, t.117&118) He points out thta in the midbar there was more than 600k, there fore one needs to take into the account the wider fmailies of the diglei midbar. He also limits it to roads that are built ot serve most of the town. This was the bsic reasoning for ossering the Brooklym eruv.
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R’ Roberts, R’ Padwa senior zatzal, R’ ehalpern [S’dei Elchonon] and the michas Yitzchok, all felt that this is a problem in london too.
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R’ Roberts would not expect his kehilla not to shave, etc…, he however feels that the eruv is a de’oraysa. He was however pointing out to those hwo may have heard to the contrary, that nonetheless they should take his opinion into account due to the severity of the matter.
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Rabbi of Berlin, sorry for the misunderstanding, but i learnt in PH in the 1990’s, and am now based in e”y.
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Just to bring out the point, i was in PH when the headmaster was Rabbi k., the school uniform, including socks, was grey, and before anyone thought of shabbos shoes, so if Rabbi K, took yur shoes, you were in seriusly painful and embaassing trouble. And he did it often. If you click on my user name you can reach other threads where it has been discussed recently.
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Concerning R’ Slifkin – who is also english, like me and you, i have no idea who you are, so i cannot know if you compare to the gedoilei toira u’mada listed above. I definitely respect you if you do. However, i found your refernece to the emperor’s new clothes somewha disgusting.
Anyway, i;m a bit scared to discuss the eiruv, since the menahel of PH made me walk home in socks when he caught me talking about the eiruv in class.
Rabbi of Berlin:
R’ Elya Ber wachtfoigel, R’ Aharon Feldman, and most noticably Harvard and MIT graduate R’ Moshe Meiselman were all opposed to Slifkin, so to suggest that the emperor has no clothes is a chutzpa and azus, and has no space on a yeshivishe web site.
Rabbi pinchos roberts – is one of the most senior litvishe rabbonim in lonodn, has regualrly told his kehilla “even if ten doctors would say something safe and one would say it’s dangerous would you dream of not listening, so too the eiruv…
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If i am not mistaken he has discussed the matter with R eider zt”l and fet that R’ moshe would have ossered.
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PLease say which eiruvin before the wat used shi’ur chazoin ish lekula
Once jokingly a cashier to weigh one of my kids, but we agreed that he was priceless.
There’s something called the sanhedria suite, it’s $55 a nite or $300 for the week, you can google it.
Also don’t froget r’ osher Arielli, snhedrai hamurchevet address removed, if you knock on bein hasedorim he will open the door for you himself.
Is your son in ToMo
IN london or manchester a messed up school is one where they encourage or discourage using the local eiruv. depends who you ask,
go to machane yehuda a few hours be4 shabbos, it’s really amzing.
R’ velvel Brodt has a nishmas minyan every night by chatzois by the koisel.
If you keep late hurs, near the mir leil shsishi is a situation.
If you are in snahedria, make sure to meet r’ shmuel deutsch. he knows shas be’iyun. A massive chassidishe oived, also n sanhedria is R’ velvel Ernster
If you see a fellow stuck without his shoes, come over and say helo, i’d love to meet you.
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Enjoy your trip
The machshirim are R’ Berel cohen, and r’ avidgor groossberger shlit”a
I think that r’ padwa of london is opposed, as is R’ chaim halpern and r z. feldman.
Gitt meshigge you’re 100% right, it’s a puty pther eiruvin became such an issue
WIY
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Try Remax, or the Shea getter group. You can probably google them.
BTW, Belz and the nearby nofei shefa, ganei ge’ula, roimemima, rival ramat beit shemesh in terms of chutznikim.
Hatzlacha Rabbo in your apartment quest.
Reb yid +1.
Couldn’t have expressed it better myself.
Are you a mechanech by ay chance?
he hasn’t gone to war, and hasn’t clered up the weapon, and about syria i truly do shudder.
It’s scary how a plac ewhere they’re killing hundreds every day deosn’t even make it on t the news.
i heard that in a certain chassidus they don’t have haircuts from rosh hashana until parshas mikeits, and if a kid messes up in school, they forcinly shave his hair on zero.
I sure hope it’s not true. If it is true it is a whole new low in school punishments.
Whoever arranged the wrting under my name, thanks very much, i appreciate it.
Anytime – 29
What did G-d say when he created light?
Let’s call it a day
Can someone explain to me how to write a message under my name.
If someone can do it for me, please write “I’m in my socks because the menahel took my shoes away”
There is nothing like hearing that your old school is featured in the yeshiva world coffee room.
Popa Bar abba, STOCKHOLM SYNDROME is when an abused person starts to look as an abuser as his saviour, normally when he associates strong emotional feeelings to their relationships. MATURITY is when a person recgonises the abuse for what it is, and nonetheless sees the entire picture.