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Good point about the air defence. However it wasn’t just after destroying air defence, many times fighter jets move in undetected by radar. Drones make it much easier and with basically zero risk since they are unmanned. So ya they did change the entire wargame especially since they are difficult to detect.
These drones aren’t being operated by some random people. Also the fact they have the FAA green and red lights on wings shows that it’s a government thing. Why else would someone comply with that? They don’t want anyone shooting these things down they already made that clear.

Except none of that matters. They obviously know what these objects are since they are behind this.

@skrioka- I agree, it could be that hes already lost to be honest since he messed up too much. For 2016 he had to bluff his way to the presidency and it worked since it was new, fresh and entertaining. The bullying also made him dominate everyone else. But now the times are different, he doesnt need to use that tactic and in fact needs to NOT use that same old tactic. He has to be more presidential this time around and it seemed for a while that he was cool and collective such as the Biden debate. But suddenly he lost it all. The press conference he gave seemed desperate and he looks like a defeated man. His only hope is that Kamalla can mess it up for herself as well.

The reason I think Kamala has a chance to win is because America is pretty much divided 50/50 as it is, with Biden most of the left weren’t going to vote. Now that Kamala is in they will likely vote her in since their hatred for Trump is higher than their hatred towards her dumbness.

ujm”Okay. The original vote split Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem being an international zone. In that case, Israel only has permission to control the original Jewish zone and not the Jerusalem zone or the Arab zone.

-ya but Israel won it n a DEFENSIVE war. They didnt go out and try to conquer it. If they gained control in a war they didnt start, why give it back?

Avira Calf and winning not one but 3 large scale wars is very different. The Golden Calf due to thinking Moshe Rabbeinu was gone was a test. What exactly is a nisayon about winning 3 unwinnable wars, in 3 different time periods? What do you suggest that they just be like” Ok guys that was a good run, thanks for the sport, this is a test so we decided to hand back the country to the Ottomans/British or whoever”?

After the fact and bottom line, is it better that we have Israel right now or worse? Aside for what Zionists plans were in the beginning we are now in a time where there is also an Orthodox influence there. So what is the verdict?

Stop with the insults everyone, its one thing to use the coffee room as training to improve your arguments or to practice conveying your points clearly and effectively. But there is no need to do so with insults and definitely not with personal insults. It doesnt make your point any clearer and in fact it just digresses from the topic and becomes a contest of who can insult the other more and with more “cleverness”. Try to refrain from this type of speech/writing. Its childish and less respectable not to mention hurtful to others, yes even if they dont know you and you dont know them.

what would be the difference who controls it? They all have issue with Israel. And maybe not obliterate but cause significant damage that they wouldnt keep attacking. But I guess it would only work if Israel could recapture the land which practically speaking wont be possible anymore.

lebanon was mostly guerilla warfare with Hezbollah. And Gaza isnt officially a country its just a territory so there is no comparison. But if they were a country, there would be a different war style engagement.

So back to the question, if Palestinians had an official state and kept fighting Israel, would Israel be able to just destroy them after the first rocket launch or attack on Israel? Since they would be an official country and then any attack would be considered war?

nomesorah, Actually i was talking of the common Jew to have this attitude of not shrinking away when seeing a swastika, which is an instinct that rightfully so happens to us, but we can change it. As far as ADL and all, they are hypocrites and only lash out when convenient to them and usually for crying wolf type of events. It makes us look weak. As far as the NBA player who shared the video, ya it was wrong and he tried being tough standing up to everyone, but really the video was unwatchable by many and making it a bigger deal made sure that now everyone was going to watch it. Also if its sold on Amzaon then they are the ones who should have been attacked and they refused to remove it anyway. Penalizing the player and making him pay a fee makes us look whiny, weak and playing in to the same anti Jewish tropes that these low lives spew to begin with.

Aleaysask, that’s not the discussion here. Of course there are so many who observe. I’m not trying to look at those who do not. I just feel that as a nation we would be stronger if these basic laws were a little more strict. Not advocating for laws to be implemented In ones home. As it stands most areas do not operate public transportation on Shabbos so the idea isn’t that out of reach. I mean Muslim countries have much worse laws. But they respect their beliefs by implementing them. Only Jews need to be different? I’m just putting out the idea that it would be much more respectful to ourselves to have basic Shabbos and especially kashrus laws. Why can’t there be a law that no chazir can be sold or seafood and basar vechalav? If many have accepted that busses don’t operate on Shabbos and neither do flights, then why would this be such an issue?

DaMoshe-thats exactly what i was saying

“You guys can argue all you want but everyone knows that the IDF changed the perception of the world vis a vis the “weak Jew”. And that does not negate the fact that Hashem runs the world. ”

Yabia, thats the IDF, nobody is looking at a Jew in Brooklyn and thinking IDF. Lets be honest.

My point is maybe we can change that by stopping our weak physical mentality that a Jew needs to just sit all day until they are a wheezing hunchback from deficient sunlight and physical fitness, instead of eating right and getting some exercise done in order to keep healthy and strong.

Im not suggesting that anyone abandon Yeshiva for the Gym Chas VeShalom, rather I’m suggesting that we incorporate some physical exercise to keep healthy and strong and also maybe to know how to stand up for ourselves mentally and physically. Enough of being easy targets.

aluperma-“Do you some basis, other than zionist and Nazi propaganda, to believe that Jews are wimps?”

-well the world usually views us as that which is why you see so many physical attacks on Jews as an easy target with no consequence since at most they will run away or shout. Im not blaming anyone I’m just wondering why we are taught to be that way

“It’s a lot easier to shift blame than to fix oneself ”
-you are right coffee addict, just like Dave Chapelle said on his SNL anti Jew rant, “I know Jews have been through a lot, but please, dont try to blame black Americans for what has happened to you”.

What should we fix? The low lives in Hollywood or those who conduct other bad things in which we dont involve ourselves in? Besides, should Jews be apologetic for being successful? Are they forcing anyone to work for them?

Sam you dont seem to understand the world we are living in. The media, social media, and political agendas of the left have managed to push their views on most of the world influencing them with leftist and liberal views. Michelle Obama is female, black, and an Obama. They will have an opportunity to make history with these categories and people buy into that, aside for the fact that so many love the Obamas. It can be very dangerous to Republicans and make it almost impossible to win especially for Trump.

I mean less barbaric as a whole. When you look at some of the punishments invented by Rome and others its spine chilling