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DD is a very strictly controlled franchise.
If a business is owned by a goy, there is no issue, and Reb Moshe authorized the use of shtar mechira for Jewish places open on shabbos.
Many places even with OU hashgachas do a prepaid meal and are open on shabbos.
Nitpicker,
Well, be a nitpicker if you want. I certainly pity you.
Who are the 3 rishonim? Most rishonim hold like the Mechaber. That is the truth. The Rivan’s shita is at variance with R”T, Rambam, Rashba, etc. The Sefer haTeruma holds like neither- he says agrees that if the fish were served or cooked in a meat utensil that they may be eaten with milk. If they were FRIED, however, in a meat pot, they may not. The Sefer Ha-Teruma considers taste transferred directly to the fish as a primary taste. Only when the taste must pass through the medium of water, i.e., bishul, is the taste considered to be “nat bar nat,” a secondary ta’am.
And the Rema says that b’dieved, we can be lenient anyways.
Let’s not defame these 2 rabbonim chashuvim. You may be liberal politically and disagree with them. But don’t insult them on a public forum, That is not a proper approach.
PBA is a cyber-bully. When one disagrees with him, he puts them down, rather than engaging constructively. He is no different than Korach.
When I call his bluff, and pose a point he can’t answer while being intellectually honest or consistent, he accuses me of being an am haaretz.
Let’s keep the discussion focused on textual arguments, which is what I do.
If you choose to disagree with the halakhic arguments I present, fine. But don’t delegitimize those you disagree with. Elu ve Elu. There are multiple correct approaches, which is the beauty of Judaism.
Thank you, MDG, for defending my kavod.
And, MDG, I do answer she’eilos all day long. Many people come to me for halakhic guidance.
Well, he did pasken that way. The responsa are there for you to learn (Shut Rema 124 on wine; 125 on the chasuna.)
Be consistent at least.
I would like examples of how Modern Orthodox Jews somehow fail to meet the standards of halakhic observance.
You can’t name any, so quit while you’re ahead.
The Rema’s shita is a chumra, period. He holds like one rishon, while the Beis Yosef/Mechaber holds like all the other rishonim. Ashkenazic stringency does not equal halakha.
Are you calling the Mechaber incorrect? Do you pasken like the Rema when he says that you can hold a wedding on Shabbat and that it is mutar to drink wine made by goyim in places where that is customary? Stop being foolish now.
I work as a shadow for a 19 year old bocher with Down’s Syndrome in a yeshiva. I would never go beyond a handshake with him. The liability is too great and we need to protect ourselves by being lifnim mishurat hadin. Children lie and make allegations sometimes, and we need to protect ourselves. Touch is not advisable at all.
All people are created B’Tzelem Elokim.
The Chief Rabbi of the UK authored tefillos and ordered reciting tehillim for victims of the earthquake in Haiti, genocide in Darfur, and other innocent non-Jews who suffer.
We are obligated to love and treat with dignity all non-Jews. One thing that stuck with me was how the yeshiva Hadar haTorah in Crown Heights has a food pantry where scores of non-Jewish residents come for food. The righteous of all nations have a place in olam haba, and it is our duty to do chesed for all people (Gittin 61).
I find the racist attitudes expressed here to be a shanda and a chillul HaShem. A person who has no rachmanus on murdered children is heartless and soulless.
If someone has a Jewish father, they still are zera yisrael and have kedushas yisrael. Rav Haim Amsalem just wrote a 2 volume sefer on that inyan.
The point was that the OU expressed 2 different rulings- one for wholesale use, one for the consumer, with the thinking that it would be better to use a more learned, lenient opinion for the mashgichim and a more stringent one for the masses, in line with the misconception that the chumra of the Rema is normative.
Well, the story is true. The OU is duplicitous about the status of oreos, and the mashgiach in question is reliable, and I believe him. I wouldn’t eat oreos with fleshigs, but I would right after. A parve food cooked in a dairy pot can be eaten even with meat, according to the principles of Nat bar Nat.
Chullin 11b says that fish brought up in a meat pot can be eaten with dairy.
The Rambam, Rabeinu Tam, and most Rishonim say that whether the fish were served, cooked, or even fried in a meat utensil, they may still be eaten with milk.
The Mechaber (YD 95:1) rules in accordance with the majority opinion, and allows fish which came in any sort of contact with a meat pot to be eaten with milk.
The entire issue of hezkat halavi/dairy equipment follows the chumra of the Rema, who holds like the Rivan (who says that the fish can’t be eaten with dairy), and says that something made in hezkat halavi can be eaten after, but not with, meat.
The Beit Yosef (YD 95) says that intentionally, one may rely on nat bar nat. Therefore, the entire DE controversy is merely a figment of the Rema’s decision to be stringent against the bulk of the rishonim. While I would accommodate guests at my home by following this, it is clear that one need not be concerned.
The Oreos themselves are parve, but cooked in hezkat halavi. According to the Beit Yosef and Hakham Ovadia Yosef, and the Pri Megadim, we can eat something made on dairy equipment even with meat.
Children should have locks for privacy’s sake.
Nope. It means it could be eaten right after the meal. We bentch and then have dessert.
Something made on DE isn’t dairy, which is why we eat it right after the meal. Dessert is eaten right after a meal.
Sadly, we are often our worst enemies, and the results of this are tragic. This is what led to the destruction of Bayis Sheni- sinas chinam, Jew-on-Jew hatred and violence, and it sadly continues to this day. And it goes on on this forum. Jews in black hats attack Jews who wear kippot serugot. Ashkenazim attack Sefardim. The Reform aren’t Jewish enough for other Jews; this one isn’t a real Jew because the rabbi who converted them is Modern. We need to stop the politics, unite around the banner of halakha, and love our neighbors, Jewish and non-Jewish alike.
Oreos are a case of the OU’s assumption that we’re all morons vis-a-vis the whole dairy issue.
I know a camp mashgiach who saw that crumbled Oreos (to be used for ice cream or other desserts) in a huge wholesale bag were labeled OU-Parve. When he called up the OU and asked if this was a misprint, since Oreos sold on the shelves are OU-D, the mashgiach said that the rabbi dreied around on the phone for 45 minutes, not giving him a straight answer, until he finally told the mashgiach, “I won’t tell you it’s dairy, but I also won’t tell you it’s parve.” (Sigh)
Halevai, if only people knew the truth about Oreos, there would be another dessert option for people who live in areas where you can’t get parve desserts so easily.
If the OU were more clear about Oreos and other DE desserts, we would have more options for our shabbos meals. I would have no problem serving oreos after our fleshig shabbos dinners.
The DE was a very clever means of giving people the truth. I suppose the OU is of the shita of Jessup from A Few Good Men (“You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!”)
I suppose there’s always Stella D’Oro.
For Shabbos dinner, I am making a delicious Yankee pot roast with latkes and braised sweet and sour red cabbage. The combination of the rich gravy on crispy latkes is to die for. Dessert will be parve donuts, fried apple pies, Sharon’s Sorbet, and Stella d’Oro cookies. As an additional side dish to go with the meat, we’re having roasted broccoli with olive oil and spices.
As a forshpeis, we are having first some fried tilapia with a lemon dill tartar sauce, along with salads, and then matzah ball soup, and empanadas- fried Cuban meat pies. A picadillo is made first, with onion, garlic, ground beef, Spanish tomato sauce, olive oil, Badia Adobo seasoning, sofrito (homemade- haven’t yet found one kosher), and fresh cilantro and culantro, with some other spices. This mixture is spooned into parve pastry discs (made with ice cold beef suet from Grow and Behold and Crisco), crimped into little pies, and fried.
Another fun oil-themed thing we did earlier in the week was a milchig Olive Oil tasting. We managed to get a lot of hechshered extra virgin olive oil- from Greece, Israel, Italy, and made some flavored olive oils with these. Some were spicy, some were more verdant. It was interesting trying them all, with assorted olives, different breads for dipping, and with feta cheese and fresh mozzarella slices for additional sampling.
These are easy questions for a high schooler.
Read the letter and think about it critically.
The Maharil certainly is the av ha chazzanut.
But it’s interesting that much of nusach and Church plainchant shares the same musical identity- both follow pentatonic schemes.
A rav once told me that a great deal of Nusach haTefila was copied from Church tunes, but that some was derived from the shirei haLeviim.
How would such a musical heritage be kept in tact over so many years? And how do we account for the fact that different communities have vastly different nusachot?
I used my food processor to make latkes last night, and it was so easy. I used flour to bind the potatoes, but am of the opinion that latkes are a great Pesach food (I use matzah meal to bind them, or you can use potato starch if you’re machmir by gebrokts).
I used 4 pounds of potatoes, 4 large Vidalia onions, salt, pepper, flour, and about 9 eggs, and fried in about 3 inches of canola oil.
We had apple sauce and sour cream, butter, Swiss, sauerkraut, Russian dressing, smoked salmon, creme fraiche, and black whitefish caviar and finely chopped chives.
I made some Reuben-style latkes with the Russian, sauerkraut, and swiss, and I also made some elegant latkes with lox, creme fraiche, caviar, and chives, which went down very nicely with ice cold vodka. For dessert, I made homemade churros with thick Mmexican chocolate-cinnamon ganache for dipping, and also deep fried Oreos, and Italian zeppole with powdered sugar. We brought in Dunkin Donuts from the store on Avenue J under R’ Mehlman, but will be making sufganiyot later this week.
And, in a nod to Yehudit and to irony (Eating Greek food on Chanukah), we made some Greek dishes with feta cheese- a Greek salad with stuffed grape leaves, feta, kalamata olives, anchovies , red onion, tomato, cucumber, romaine lettuce, oregano, and scallions, and I made spanakopita: we used OK-certified phyllo (Kronos?), frozen spinach, scallion, dill, parsley, onion, nutmeg, feta, sundried tomatoes, mushrooms, eggs, salt, pepper, lemon,with lots of olive oil and butter between the layers of phyllo.
There’s a difference between a ger who states ab initio, they are converting al tenai that they’re not going to keep a particular mitzvah, and one who falls into nonobservance of mitzvot over time, according to the Achiezer I cited above.
But who says kissui harosh for a woman fulfills any mitzvah? Ii think the case for non-covering has been thoroughly explained, as there are those who rightfully believe that a married woman’s uncovered hair is not erva.
The takana expires in 2054, no?
I am a fan of the post-seuda Mincha minyan. On Shabbos, I usually go to a hashkama minyan, partake of the dairy/parve kiddush after, hang around to hear the rabbi’s sermon in the main minyan, and then partake of the big fleshige kiddush, which functions for me as the seuda, after which I bentch and daven Mincha. This allows me to enjoy the rest of shabbos effortlessly.
It is not up to a beis din to be able to foretell the future or read minds. A person can in no way read minds, and if they purport to, they are not espousing Judaism.
It is up to beis din to witness the conversion and sign the teudah. Not to ensure that a person is observant. That is the ger’s responsibility. Once the ger leaves the mikvah, they’re Jewish.
And, we do not allow Reform and Conservative Jews to dictate halakha. According to your reasoning, that we don’t do something only because they do it, is silly and dangerous at once.
The Reform use ta’amei hamikra. We shouldn’t because they do? Come on now.
It is not scriptural, but historically, there is basis for its recitation. Koheles was not even considered canonical by some sages.
Hanukah has Megillas Antiochus.
It is mentioned by R. Shimon Kayara, a Geon, in Halakhot Gedolot, and Rasag attributes it to the Maccabees themselves. The geonim held in high regard and believed it to be authored by Tannaim of Beis Hillel and Beis Shammai.
Italian synagogues would read this on Hanukah, and in the Baladi nusach of Temanim, they still read it as part of the davening. R’ Yahya ben Yosef Zalih, in 1715, wrote that this megillah was read after the Haftorah on Shabbos Chanukah, and he considered its reading an important part of the mitzvah of Pirsumei Nissah.
The Machzor Kaffa, published in 1735 in the Crimea, says that this should be read during Mincha on Shabbos Chanukah after Kaddish Titkabal.
I see no reason why this text couldn’t be recited on Shabbos Chanukah, either during Mincha or Shacharis (similar to Koheles). Obviously, there are no brachos, but I don’t see how this could be a problem.
The Shabbos Mincha Nusach is very simple; the same tune is used more or less for everything except Ata Echad.
But not wearing a tie is not a chumra. It is a practice I see as being very warranted and corroborated by the sources.
I don’t wear a tie anyways on Shabbos, although wearing loud and flashy ties seems to be popular among the yeshivishe velt these days.
R’ Goren, R’ Unterman, R’ Uziel, R’ Kalischer, and so many others saw a clear inyan of zera yisrael requiring a lenient giyur standard. This is one reason why I support Rav Amsalem and his party.
Conversion can and should be a tool by which Jewish unit can be cemented. The above felt this way because they were in touch with the needs of Israeli society.
Turning away little Marc Friedman because his mother isn’t Jewish won’t do klal yisrael any favors.
The logical thrust of my argument above is obvious; it is obvious from what I said above that I wouldn’t eat sturgeon caviar.
(Although I wouldn’t chastise those who do, per the Noda b’Yehuda)
Of course, I am proudly Modern Orthodox, and I believe that our approach is the correct one, espoused by Hazal, Rambam, Rasag, the Gra, Rav Hirsch, Rav Weinberg, Rav Soloveitchik, Rav Angel, Rav Berman, Rav Riskin, and scores of other gedolim.
And I very much appreciate yytz’s postings, as well as all reasonable postings above.
If my “Crimes” should be placing a value on the arts and sciences, loving all people, Jew and Non-Jew alike, working to heal the world of injustices, making a place for women within Jewish life and learning, espousing a moderate approach to halakha fully in line with the texts, and loving gerim, protecting children from pedophiles, defending scientific logic and fact, and calling out injustice and poor readings and misunderstandings of rabbinic texts, all of which abound in the reconstructed, polemical reactionary world of Haredism, than let me stand accused. I stand on the shoulders of giants, including Hhazal, the Gra, the Rambam, and all of the gedolim I mentioned above.
I am totally against it. Pot destroys many lives.
Kabbalas hamitzvos, according to R’ Ovadia Yosef and many others, doesn’t mean that nonobservance invalidates the giyur.
What it means is that the ger understands that they’ll be punished if they don’t keep the mitzvot, not that nonobservance makes them non-Jewish.
Once they pass through the mikva, they’re Jews.
I technically had to convert (mother had a non-Orthodox conversion), and was dumped by an ex-fiancee.
I don’t think divorcing a ger is a wise thing to do. I wouldn’t think G-d looks on it too favorably.
To make a sick child suffer due to a d’rabbanan is bad parenting.
Everyone refers to salmon and whitefish roe as caviar.
That is certainly how they market it.
Sunday, anyways, I am making latkes with smoked salmon and blck whitefish cavair, OU, from Marky’s.
The notion of inherent Jewish racial superiority in the Maharal and Kuzari and Tanya have resulted in a bit of harm.
Read what R’ Weinberg, the Seridei Esh, says on these ideas.
Yes, because they outdo born Jews in the performance of mitzvot.
I corrected myself.
The Star K has an article authored by R’ Dovid Heber where he advocates the dilution solution.
He says that they consulted with the pharmaceutical companies and found that this would not reduce the potency of the medication, and it also allows the cough syrup to be batel.
Preferential Option is an aspect of Liberation Theology, which, while it originated with Catholics, seems to have parallels within our own tradition.
I see nothing idolatrous or flawed about this idea.
abc,
Welcome to the am.
Two Jews, three opinions.
We like to argue for the sake of heaven, le shem shamayim.
Are you serious?
Doesn’t lo tanu et ha ger mean anything to you?
If the S”A says that a ger who worships avodah zarah the next day is still Jewish, than certainly a woman who doesn’t cover her hair is still Jewish.
The wives of scores of Litvishe roshei yesiva didn’t cover their hair, including Rebbetzin Tonya Soloveitchik, a”h.
And, R’ Yosef Messas, Teshuvot Mayyim Hayyim, says that b’zman hazeh, a married woman’s hair is not considered ervah.
The Aruch HaShulchan paskens the same, regarding kriat shema.
And, Rav Elyashiv’s statement is attributed to him, but there’s no way of proving that eh really said such a thing. Don’t insult the man by claiming he’d say such a thing, which falls under the category of elu devarim she’ein lahem makor, a pun I came up with based on the Mishna in Peah.
Yytz, kol ha kavod for being a voice of reason, gadlus, and sanity.
That sefer sounds like a very good read, yytz.
Rav Soloveitchik, zatzal, was very troubled by those who say that we only violate shabbat to save a gentile’s life mishum eivah. It should also bother anyone who believes that all people are made b’tzelem elokim.
Being victimized doesn’t give us license to become victimizers.
Recall the Midrash regarding the malachim and the Egyptians.
The sexual impulse is sadly very strong, which is why we put so many gedarim around these matters, with shmiras haenayim, shmiras negiah, etc.
I can only imagine the pain of dealing with this situation.
I posted a while back about knowing about illness in a situation involving an ex, and I am glad I did what a poseq told me and reported it to family members.
Healing and forgiveness will take a while, but this seems like someone who cannot control his te’evos. People with addictions are neurologically-damaged to an extent. Much research has been done on brain abnormalities in people with impulsivity issues.
The temptation of dirty images and websites is very strong and it is a yetzer that burns with rage and fury, r”‘l.
Our tradition teaches that the oppressed, the poor, the hungry, the downtrodden will inherit the earth.
That is what is meant by a preferential option.
Even ma’asu habonim is another example of this.
And I see this as applying to both Klal Yisrael, and to all who have experienced pain and rejection in their lives in this world.
When people believe that treating all of G-d’s children with equity and in a just manner is a function of good PR or should only be done for our own self-gain, I am deeply turned off and offended.
These sorts of explanations also bothered Rav Soloveitchik and Rav AS Rosenthal and Professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz, among other hakhamim, and I am also bothered by these explanations.
We are duty-bound to treat all people with fairness, kindness, and justice. It is essential to read Talmudic and halakhic texts on gentiles in a manner consonant with our own social and political metziut, not the metziut of yesteryear, which generated racist attitudes in many cases. I recommend reading the writings of Rav Dov Linzer on this.