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rebdonielMember
The Vilna Shas is a modern innovation, relatively speaking, just like the printing press, in the course of Jewish history.
And it was one developed by Christians, the Romm family.
It has no inherent kedusha or worth. It came about through chance, an accident of history. The Bar Ilan cd gives us an efficient, effective means of learning, and it should be utilized fully.
And as far as levush goes: the Borsalino hat that is so beloved in the yeshiva world only became popular after mafia movies came out. It is due only to another accident of history that this hat became popularly worn. There is nothing inherently holy about clothing styles copied from gentiles and 18th century Polish nobility. Halakhically, a talmid hakham must cover his head and wear clothing that is clean, well-maintained, and tasteful, as well as modest. This is the only requirement halakha places on such dress. You’re speaking in sociological terms, not religious ones.
rebdonielMemberSpeak with people who are experienced with marriage and relationships, and maybe a therapist who can help you sort out your feelings. This is the most important decision you’ll ever make.
rebdonielMemberSheleg, Sheleg, Sheleg, Sheleg b’sasson.
rebdonielMemberMezonos bread is a stira. Uunless you can taste the apple juice, how can you consider it mezonot?
rebdonielMemberThank you, RT.
Those who disagree with the status quo are often attacked here, especially by the likes of Popa, who at least has the honesty and self-awareness to call himself “incorrigible.”
And Popa, having an opinion other than yours does not constitute am haratzus. Rabbi Norman Lamm called people like you “cavemen.” Ad hominem attacks on either side serve no toeles, and I am against personal attacks. Remember: Eleanor Roosevelt said that small minds discuss people, but great minds discuss ideas. I would hope to be able to take this to heart and keep my postings and real-life conversations focused more on ideas than petty gossip and lashon hara, which is not manly, nor constructive.
And regarding French. Knowing French helps when it comes to coming across “laz” comments that Rashi and Tosafot make in many different places. In the same spirit, I would like to learn Ladino, since many Ladino references are in the Shulchan Aruch (even knowing gastronomy helps learning halakha, like when the ShA talks about pashtida, a dish still made in the Near East and Maghreb), and Meam Loez is a Ladino work. Likewise, knowing Yiddish would be helpful in decoding Chassidus, and knowing Arabic would help me with some works of Rishonim. And German would help with Rav Hirsch and also academic texts.
rebdonielMemberI find davening from a phone to be tacky, but believe firmly that laptops and tablets can be used in the beit midrash; with Koren and Artscroll apps, online shiurim, Bar Ilan, etc, it saves a lot of time. Ii heard from R’ Mordechai Willig that spending time looking up mekoros, locating sefarim on a shelf, etc., is considered bitul torah, and you get no schar for it, which would actually make using Bar Ilan a mitzvah.
rebdonielMemberWhen it comes to entering a church, halakha makes no distinction between the denomination of the church, although it may be less of an issur to enter a Unitarian, Jehovah’s Witness, or Mormon church, since these groups do not believe in a Trinity and do not believe Jesus is divine.
Anglicans also have statues and whatnot, and the Rabbanut actually sends R’ Shear Yashuv Cohen to important functions in the Vatican.
The psak is as follows. The Meiri believes that Christianity is not avodah zarah, which is like Tosafot, who say that Trinitarianism is like goyim being mishtateif HaShem and another being, which for them, is not assur, but is assur for Jews. (Tosfos sv Shema, Bechorot 2b).
Meiri says that Christians, like others “possessed of religion,” are indeed like bnei noach (Beit haBechira, Avodah Zarah 26b).
Additionally, Hullin 13b says that akum outside Israel really aren’t idolaters, but are merely following customs without understanding what they are doing.
I have read many responsa on the topic, and honestly, most poskim do not allow entering a church. However, Teshuvot haRosh klak 19, number 17, says that a Jew may take refuge in a church in a time of danger. This may serve as a limud zechut for the Rabbinate’s practice, as we would want to avoid eivah, and it is clear in this teshuva that entering a church to save Jewish life is mutar.
Historically, we do know that rabbis entered churches. Kerach shel Romi says that R’ Yisrael Moshe Hazan and others entered churches to learn niggunim that would be applied to synaggoue worship, which may be plausible, since much of nusach is pentatonic, much like Gregorian chant.
R’ Yosef Carlebach, the chief rabbi of Lubeck, often visited cathedrals for the sake of viewing the artwork and whatnot.
I believe that while it is most likely assur to enter a church, there are cases where it is simply unavoidable, as we need to avoid eivah. Also, in cases where Jews have gentile family members and colleagues, it may be detrimental to avoid attending functions like church weddings, funerals, christenings, etc.
The British Rabbinical practice of entering Westminster Abbey, like that of Rabbi Haskel Lookstein at Obama’s inauguration, is undertaken for the sake of good relations with our neighbors, which is a religious imperative in and of itself.
rebdonielMemberAny sort of stew tastes better the longer it sits because the flavors get to marry and mingle more thoroughly over time.
I happen to like leftover chulent. Who wants to cook again Sunday when you don’t have to? I do usually eat it for melaveh malkah, though, when it is parve chulent (parve chulent with a dairy lukshen kugel and parve kishka is a very tasty combination). When we have fleshig chulent, we usually have the leftovers on Sunday and usually have to thin it out with a little beef broth or homemade chicken broth from Friday night soup.
rebdonielMembera) I was making a rhetorical point.
b) In reference to MDG: I am trained in academic methods, so perhaps I am influenced by the approach of Haym Soloveitchik, Professor Israel Ta-Shma, zt”l, Prof. EE Urbach, zt”l, and others who utilized a contextual approach to the study of halakha.
c) A rishon cannot disagree with the Talmud because everything up to and including Ravina and Rav Ashi is binding. The shitot of the Rishonim do not have the valence of canonical Torah, as the Talmud does.
d) The Rema’s approach on these issues is similar to how Tosafot view clapping on shabbat and mayim achronim, how Rabbenu Tam views gevinat akum, and how Teshuvot Mayim Hayim views women’s hair coverings. These are approaches which render psakim either on the basis of human need or changing social circumstances which contravene actual halakha as presented in the Gemara. (See Hakham Yosef Faur’s article on The Legal Methodology of Tosafot in Dine Yisrael for one explanation).
e) On Nat bar Nat: The main point here is whether you can be somech on nat bar nat l’chatchila. Nobody disputes it b’dieved, including the Rema.
But what do Ashkenazim do with the shita of the Darchei Teshuva? Here we have an Ashkenaz posek who says b’shem the Siftei Daat that if something parve is cooked in a meat pot, then only the klipa is assur to eat with halav. And, also, the Shach is more machmir than the Rema, and says that the tzalu is assur even b’dieved (unlike Rema).
rebdonielMemberThe Chief Rabbinate in the UK has held historically that there is no issur of entering a church for state functions.
rebdonielMemberAPY,
And most of the songs were written by a Jew, Irving Berlin, the son of a chazzan.
rebdonielMemberLes Mis has nothing to do with yiras shamayim.
Being deficient in bein adam le chaveiro has a who lot to do with a lack of yiras shamayim, though.
rebdonielMemberLes Miserables is a fantastic novel and a classic story. And my love of French literature has little bearing on my ability to learn halakhic texts and render psak.
rebdonielMemberNisht,
Don’t start attacking Religious Zionists. This forum cannot and will not become a forum to attack people who think differently from you.
rebdonielMemberA working guy who still learns every day seems to be what she wants.
Those who go to Night Kollel after working all day are the best of the best, and deserve our support the most.
The key should be to find a guy who is more Sinai than Oker Harim. If a guy works, his time to learn must be spent with concrete goals in mind and with an eye towards covering ground, so that he can have a real kinyan hatorah. This has become my approach. I learn Shas, Rashi, Tosafot; Chumash with Rashi, Onkelos, and different parshanim; Mishnayot with Bartenura and Kehati; Mishna Berura; Rambam; Kitzur every day. I have clear goals to master this material and to do chazara on it. My rabbanim are very proud of what I do and say that they wish people in yeshivas did this, since many, if not most, of the bochrim in yeshivas end up not coming out with much knowledge, I am told. If a man has this knowledge of Chumash, Shas, Mmishna, and Halacha, he will be able to teach his children and learn with them, and be the “mara d’atra” of his household, which is a husband’s role. And a man who learns through all of Shas and knows halakha is a talmid chacham who should have the respect of his children and wife.
rebdonielMemberI am not interested in shidduchim and am not offering myself as a shidduch, either, lol. I never mentioned anything about a “profile.”
Is there really a dearth of yeshivish men who go to work and are kovea itim, though? OTOH, the shiurim I frequent in the evenings do seem to be full of all married men and there are no single guys there.
A sugestion would maybe be to have a shadchan of hers contact Ohr Yitzchok or a BT yeshiva? They seem to have working-learning guys who come for a shiur here and a seder there.
rebdonielMemberIt’s not a sign of assimilation.
If people have off work, why should they not make the most of their day off and enjoy it?
As far as high schools, it should be a day like any other day. A half day on Kretchmas is odd to me.
rebdonielMemberD’ Pilgi Rabanan in line 5 refers to Rebbi Dosa.
rebdonielMemberI feel that BT’s should stick with other BT’s and gerim when it comes to shidduchim.
There are many cultural gaps, for starters, as many people from right-wing frum backgrounds know nothing of the fine arts, philosophy, haute culture, etc. There needs to be intellectual compatibility in a shidduch.
rebdonielMemberPeople hate converts and BT’s. It is a sad fact of life. And I’ve suffered persecution and discrimination because of it, too.
I would suggest finding rabbinical allies, good rabbonim, to guide you and nurture you, and consider them your mishpacha and melitz yosher in this world. They’ll guide you through shidduchim, etc.
rebdonielMemberI don’t see the chiddush.
I work, am continuing with my college studies, and also make time to learn 3 hours a day, in the morning and evening, after minyan.
Men are supposed to be kovea itim.
Maybe there are very few men out there who work an honest job and are also kovea itim?
December 24, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm in reply to: Dreaming About Food – Whaf Are You Eating To Break Taanis? #915039rebdonielMemberWIY,
Diet? Isn’t that the name of some Lipa song?
December 24, 2012 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm in reply to: Dreaming About Food – Whaf Are You Eating To Break Taanis? #915036rebdonielMemberI broke it at a chasuna on cake/rugelach/orange juice, followed by a kabbalas panim smorg of Hawaiian chicken, sesame chicken, shlishkes, kasha varnishkes, fried rice, and lo mein.
rebdonielMemberNaftush is 100% correct.
My reply to those who claim chadash assur min hatorah would be ein chiddush gadol mizeh.
rebdonielMemberFirearms are very important, and the NRA President’s proposal was spot-on.
I was reading an email I got from YCT with Rabbi Weiss’s remarks about the shooting, and I was immediately put off by something he said. He called for a ban on “assault weapons.” That would not have averted a tragedy such as this. If we look at Newtown, Arizona, Aurora, etc., the one thing in common is that each shooter was a mental case. We’re not supposed to look at the face of a rasha, but if you look at their faces, you can see the look of insanity.
The way to avoid these problems is to deal with mental illness in a no-nonsense and comprehensive manner (i.e. bring back the snake pit), national spiritual and moral revival, secure our schools, and to stop blaming the Second Amendment!
With all due respect, R’ Weiss should stick to rabbinical duties and until he studies constitutional law, he has no right to an opinion on the matter of whether certain firearms ought to be banned or not. Statism and tyranny are not part of my weltanschauung, and are obviously sadly a part of rebbi’s worldview, just as statism and tyranny is a part of R’ Akiva Herzfeld’s worldview (he penned an op-ed in a Maine newspaper advocating the legalization of gay “marriage” identifying himself as a musmach of YCT, r”l).
rebdonielMemberTo bring it back on topic, the prenup says 2 things:
1. Each spouse agrees to appear before a panel of Jewish law judges (dayanim) arranged by the Beth Din of America, if the other spouse demands it, and to abide by the decision of the Beth Din with respect to the get.
2. If the couple separates, the Jewish law obligation of the husband to support his wife is formalized, so that he is obligated to pay $150 per day (indexed to inflation), from the date he receives notice from her of her intention to collect that sum, until the date a Jewish divorce is obtained. This support obligation ends if the wife fails to appear at the Beth Din of America or to abide by a decision of the Beth Din of America.
The Nachalas Shiva was a sefer of shtaros published in 1664 by Shmuel Ben David Moshe Halevi, and one of the forms he included was a tenaim almist exactly similar to the provisions in the prenup, and he says that this dated back to the Takanos Shum, the authoritative communal enactments adopted in the early Middle Ages by the leaders of the German communities of Speyer, Worms and Mayence.
rebdonielMemberIf you maintain a good high school GPA and get into CUNY Honors, I believe they give a free laptop. If not, a netbook may serve you well, for things like internet, Microsoft Office Suite, etc.
rebdonielMemberTebow is a great athlete, and I have loads of respect and admiration for his courage to be vocal and public about his faith, something that we need to do as well. We need to make a place for G-d in the public sphere, and never cower away from being shluchim and ambassadors for Torah Judaism wherever we go. People will respect us when we learn not to be afraid of who we are. And, when liberal Jews complain about Christians being open and vocal about their convictions, they are merely perpetuating the decline of Judaism. The answer to strengthening the Jewish people is not by whining about a nativity scene or Tebowing, but by being public and unafraid of things like the Hanukkiah, kashrut, tzniut, kippah, shabbat, tzitzit, etc.
December 23, 2012 2:01 am at 2:01 am in reply to: any one has a click & paste Mishna Berura? #915143rebdonielMemberI have grown accustomed to the Hebrew Books text of Shas-Rashi-Tosafot, as well as the format of the sefarim on Bar Ilan, which make it easy to make source sheets, add vowels (using Auto Nikud) for those who need them. Mmy fear, though, is that my students will not ever learn Rashi script.
rebdonielMemberMany Orthodox Jews are involved in interfaith study and dialogue.
Rabbi Dr. Alan Brill, Rabbi Dr. Alan Goshen Gottstein, Rabbi Shlomo Riskin, Rabbi Dr. Eugene Korn, Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen, Rabbi Sacks and others promote the Meiri’s vision of religious tolerance and a more universalistic picture for coexistence.
rebdonielMemberPerhaps because it was forced on us as an anti-semitic measure, not a voluntary translation.
I hope people don’t use Asara b”Tevet as an excuse to rail against translated seforim.
December 22, 2012 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm in reply to: any one has a click & paste Mishna Berura? #915141rebdonielMemberPowersefer is in text form? Like Bar Ilan?
rebdonielMemberPolitics. Kashrus is an ugly game.
December 21, 2012 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm in reply to: A bit bothered by some advertisements in frum publications #1009246rebdonielMemberThe Shevet Yehuda specifically says that Jewish flaunting of wealth was a cause of some of the persecutions in Spain, at a time when the goyim were economically depressed.
AFAIK, there are sadly tons of acheinu bnei yisroel eating in soup kitchens, schnorring, and desperate for a job. We need vocational training and parnassa, not shtus like Rolexes.
rebdonielMemberBasically, I look at what goyim eat, and see how we can make it kosher. I am not Chassidishe, but if the rebbeim say that we can take a goyishe tune and elevate it to kedusha, surely we can do the same with goyishe foods, and indeed we have. The bagel, herring, knishes, pastrami, etc. are all foods created by Central and Eastern European goyim.
Thank you very much for your kind words.
I find that things like the meat substitutes on the market, Parve Parmesan, Mimic Creme, etc. really help recreate kosher versions of treif dishes. I would say that all you need to be a good cook is to be willing to go beyond your comfort level. Using new spices, herbs, or kosher products on the market is an exciting thing.
rebdonielMemberI am looking at the CRC Liquor List.
They say that Coopers Home Brew Kits are under KA (Australian hechsher?)
December 21, 2012 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm in reply to: A bit bothered by some advertisements in frum publications #1009240rebdonielMemberOne doesn’t need to spend an arm and a leg to be frum.
Clothes don’t need to be designer. Meat can and should only be eaten on Shabbos and Yom Tov, even if then. A vegetarian lifestyle is healthier and cheaper, anyways. You only need to worry about maintaining 1 set of kitchen equipment and plates, and another set for Pesach.
I see Judaica for cheap in different places, like Closeout Connection and Amazing Savings.
I believe that instead of wasting money on luxuries, we should give more to the needy and reprioritize.
rebdonielMemberPBA,
Listen to the moderator and keep things on topic.
Health is 100% correct- the poskim throughout the years have utilized tons of creative thinking and have done everything possible to avoid the agunah crisis.
rebdonielMemberThank you very much. I am an amateur chef, and have a vast knowledge of different cuisines and the wide array of kosher products available.
Keeping kosher is no excuse for eating bad food, I feel. Too many frum cooks make shvach food devoid of flavor or creativity. This is why I usually like eating my own food and generally don’t eat in too many frum restaurants, although there are a few I like.
If I had the money, I’d open up a couple of restaurants, one meat, one dairy.
rebdonielMemberRabbi Schachter is a gadol in learning, but certainly not someone who is good for public relations. I stand 100% by what I said about him vis-a-vis his odious remarks on women, non-Jews, the Rosh haMemshala, etc., all of which are true. His remarks are available in the public sphere to be viewed. Saying over the truth is nothing a person has to make teshuva for.
rebdonielMemberSure it is. R’ Willig is your strawman, since he is the posek who authorized the Prenup.
How would the RCA be involved with the Conservative Movement? Your insinuation is that people affiliated with YU are somehow inclined towards that perspective, when they are the finest of the finest in Orthodoxy. R’ Schachter, R’ Willig, and all of the great rebbeim at YU are gedolim of the highest caliber.
And the text of that prenup is borrowed largely from Nachlas Shiva.
rebdonielMemberThe Aruch haShulchan (CM 7:1) says that if a ger’s father is Jewish, than he is considered eligible to serve as a dayan in a case involving born Jews.
rebdonielMemberThis is a stupid post and an ad hominem attack on the Modern Orthodox community.
And this is not invention of a new halakha.
rebdonielMember@Goq:
Very punny.
In the same vein, we actually do have Ppersian food for one of the Purim seudot, consisting of several rice and meat dishes.
Yyou do realize, though, that Jews in galut come from all the countries where we’ve historically been persecuted, such as Iran, Syria, Greece, Egypt, etc.
rebdonielMemberMy point exactly was that when criteria are met, the shtar mechirs is effective, and it’s use existed long before R’ Feinstein.
Le ma’aseh, Rabbi Israel Meir Steinberg and others follow this shita, whereas R’ Soloveitchik wasn’t fond of it on policy grounds. This was actually a case where Reb Moshe was more meikil than R’ Soloveitchik.
rebdonielMemberNorman’s now makes Greek yogurt.
Olympus is a Greek dairy company that has long made yogurt and Greek cheeses under R’ Alan Silver.
As an irony, during Chanukah, I make a milchig Greek dinner, and during Pesach, I do a meal of Egyptian dishes, such as foul moudammas (an Egyptian national dish), Kushari (made with Pesahdik macaroni), Mulukhiya Soup, Rahib (roasted eggplant salad with scallions, cilantro, parsley, onion, tomato, and olive oil), Mechshe, and Koshaf (like a dried fruit compote). (we obviously do kitniyot).
rebdonielMemberLabels mean little. I know those who wear tzitzis, a black suede kippa and polo shirts and jeans and colored shirts and khakis during the week, a black hat and white on shabbos and yontiff, doesn’t keep cholov yisroel or pas yisroel, studies at a CUNY college, learns daf yomi and goes to minyan three times a day, yet daven Nusach Sfard, and keep many heimishe-type minhagim, do kiruv with Oorah, NCSY, went to places like KBY, and identify equally as either RWMO or LW Yeshivish. I don’t see much of a difference.
rebdonielMemberR’ Miller was adamant that Jews cannot vote for liberal politicians. I would think the idea is that the Sheva Mitzvos create a sort of Jewish notion of public policy. We have a duty to influence society to be moral and reflect godly values.
OTOH, many Chasidishe Jews vote Democrat because of welfare and graft and pork barrel spending, which is not kosher.
rebdonielMemberPeople above accuse non-mainstream hashgachas of overseeing DD.
Vaad of 5 Towns and Vaad of Riverdale in NYC; CRC in Chicago, Vaad of Metrowest (there is now kosher DD in West Orange), R’ Teitz in Elizabeth, and R’ Salfer in Baltimore are hardly what I would call lenient or unacceptable.
rebdonielMemberYou don’t need a licensed professional to dispense advice. Psychology is in many ways a pseudo-science; it is rooted in theories and speculations. There is no objective test, like a blood test, that you can give to someone to prove they have a particular mental illness. There are correlations between certain findings on brain scans and certain behavioral qualities, but correlation does not mean causation.
(I studied psychology in college).
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