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If I attack certain shitot on the grounds that the underlying methodology resembles Conservative heresy, how would that make me Conservative? I oppose any efforts which claim that changing circumstances override Talmudic gezerot. Halakha doesn’t change with the times, as many liberals among us claim (Tosafot explicitly say that whenever the reason of a rabbinic
There must be a beit din hagadol with the proper authority to implement changes of the magnititude that we see with things like people not washing mayim achronim, people carrying in invalid eruvin, clapping on Shabbat (many among us are then mechallelei shabbat, albeit be shogeg), some people making tea on shabbat improperly (Shabbat 40b s.v. U’shma claims that there is no bishul in a kli sheni) and even lifting commercial restrictions between Jews and idolatrous Christians, ignoring classic definitions of avodah zarah. When the Conservatives impose any of their innovations, in most cases, they claim to be falling back on Tosfos. Whether it be mayim achronim, cheese, instruments, or whatever the issue is. The consensus among most Orthodox Jews, thankfully, is not to rely on these leniencies.
You’re not allowed to shave or wash clothing on Tisha b’Av, but when Tisha b’Av falls on Thursday, Tosafot allows Jews to shave and to wash clothing in the afternoon to facilitate the preparation of the Sabbath (Taanit 30a sv Ve tarveihu).
Stop and think a moment. If you’re such Tosafists, then why don’t you do things that Tosafot permits that are seen as improper among most Orthodox Jews and by scores of poskim? Do serious Orthodox Jews really ever do things like this? Do you clap on shabbat, do laundry on Tisha be Av when it falls on a Thursday, carry in communal eruvin, make tea in a kli sheni, believe Christianity is not avoda zarah (most poskim nowadays say that shituf is forbidden even for gentiles, contra Tosafot), eat microbial rennet cheese made by goyim, etc.?
rebdonielMemberI’ve seen that in different frum ice cream stores. What exactly is a razzle?
rebdonielMemberMarriages where one party thinks they can redeem another are doomed to fail. It is very important for people to be on the same page religiously in a marriage.
rebdonielMemberI appreciate it DaMoshe. I am mochel you. Instead of knocking heads together, we need to come and reason together. Mahloket le shem shamayim is one of the most beautiful aspects of the rabbinic tradition to me, and I definitely appreciate your apology. Thank you.
rebdonielMemberThey have a racket on the market that has some sort of electric current in it that works well in killing flies.
rebdonielMemberThere’s even a gemara which attests to the fact that a shiur ought to begin with a joke.
rebdonielMemberYou’d be hard pressed to find people that don’t snoop around in medicine chests. Such is human nature.
July 1, 2013 6:29 am at 6:29 am in reply to: Mishpacha magazine on Congregational Rabbinic Stress #962500rebdonielMemberHow many people, in that case, will be wanting to compete for pulpits in wealthy areas like the Upper East Side, Beverly Hills, Great Neck, etc.?
rebdonielMemberThat’s how these people think. Of course, logically, it would make no sense to us, but this is just the nature of things.
rebdonielMemberI cannot think of one RIETS rosh yeshiva that doesn’t wear a black hat. Rabbi Chaim Brovender even wears one.
rebdonielMemberThere was more achdut and respect among gedolim back then.
rebdonielMemberThere’s a halab yisrael truck that comes down my aunt’s block in Boro Park. During ben hametzarim, they blare some eery-sounding chant on the loudspeakers. I will say, though, that having the ability to get parve ice cream novelties to eat after a meat meal is really cool and one of the perks of living in a community such as ours(my favorite is the Klein’s Chocolate Eclair Bar: parve and only 110 calories! I also like the Crunchy Munchy, as this reminds me of a parve version of Nestle Crunch).
rebdonielMemberWaterbury is behind the Shas Illuminated project. It seems like a great, affordable community not too far from NYC, and if they can help kids who have challenges or other impediments to growth, how is that a bad thing? Not everybody has to become a great lamdan. The goal of our system ought to be to give young people the tools to live meaningful Jewish lives where they’ll take joy in keeping the mitzvot and opening a sefer, and become pillars of their communities regardless of what profession they enter.
rebdonielMemberI’ve heard that, as well, that in Belgium, if a vendor only sells frites, than a Jew could eat there. In India, the Hindus are strict vegetarians. I was referring to factory production, but otoh, I did recently see an article which said that certain additives and chemicals used in our processed foods are not permitted for use in countries like the UK, where the idea of foods without a hechsher but with rabbinical endorsement is prevalent.
There are certain vegan food items that are produced in America without a hechsher that I’d like some kashrut rabbis to look into. There are artisanal vegan cheeses, vegan Field Roast, May Wah meat substitutes, and other items that would be very convenient if available kosher. Likewise, items like almond flour, coconut flour, tapioca-based GF baking mixes, etc. should be investigated, as having these kitniyot-free items available for Passover would make life far easier (imagine having a decent loaf of Gluten Free bread as an option on Pesah, instead of matzah at every meal).
rebdonielMemberEvery one should have rabbanim who they’re comfortable with and whose ideas are compatible with their own. People may denigrate certain rabbis whose approach differs from their own, but nobody is asking you to become their talmidim. I would be very happy, for instance, if more people accepted Hakham Yosef Faur’s ideas, but it is possible to disagree with someone’s ideas without attacking them in an ad hominem manner. A famous Sephardic rav, whose approach and responsa I typically think are highly sensible and reasonable, for example, attacked someone of a different political affiliation as evil and with an entire host of verbal attacks. This is wrong, and very much goes against the spirit of the Rashi the OP cited. As a rabbinical friend of mine wrote (As a title of his book), “You don’t have to be wrong for me to be right.”
rebdonielMemberTrue, they don’t, but they like to fancy themselves a Western-style democracy, where religious coercion is obviously not seen as desired. One can argue, though, as I would, that laws restricting public commerce on sabbath (Israeli sumptuary/blue laws) do promote a positive atmosphere (it is accepted widely that every society needs one day to rest, and for Christians, certainly in America, Sunday Blue Laws promoted a sense of rest and were an effort to retain a public religious consciousness that is missing nowadays) and uphold the Jewish character of the state.
rebdonielMemberI’m suprised such a law isn’t being challenged by those who want freedom from religion in Israel, like Meretznikim. While a law enforcing sabbath observance does promote one aspect of Jewish identity for the medina, it is also obviously at odds with religious freedom and can be seen as coercive.
In Tel Aviv, commerce, transportation, etc. are notorious for operating on Shabbat.
rebdonielMemberThat is one reason given, but apparently, this method still is deemed appropriate by rabbis in foreign countries, where their food is just as processed as it is here. How did and why did the Rashba’s shita become de rigueur? Why does nobody hold like the Noda be Yehuda here these days (except Rav Abadi and maybe a few others)? Largely in America, this is irrelevant, since I’d say that at least 70-80% of processed food items have some kind of a hechsher (whether it be one of the Big Five, a K that actually has rabbinical supervision behind it, such as R’ Greenblatt on hot sauce, or R’ Zevulun Charlop on Starbuck’s drinks, or R’ Goldsmith on Royal gelatin, or a hechsher that is less respected by the olam, such as the Luchot K, UKS, Triangle K, etc.)
If you hold like the OP or like Rav Abadi that cheeses made with an automated system aren’t gevinat akum, than that would obviously open the floodgates.
rebdonielMemberThey should have been direct: Orthodox women who wear pants are Modern, Bais Yaacov is very much opposed to Modern Orthodoxy, and therefore, there is no fit. They want teachers to model and embody the type of values they want to instill in their children. It’s for that reason that you generally wouldn’t see someone with semikha from YCT, let’s say, being offered a rebbe job in a school like Torah Vodaas or Tiferes Elimelech. We live in a world where ideological lines are often fiercely upheld, and frankly, to put myself in their shoes, if I were the type of parent who was sending my daughter to a BY camp, I wouldn’t want someone who doesn’t share those values (no TV, no university, no movies, no computers, no pants, etc.) to have a hashpa’ah on my kid.
rebdonielMemberWhat about the shitot of Rebbi and Rav Zera that one shouldn’t laugh too much in this world?
rebdonielMemberPeople that are suspicious on that level are creepy. What a shame that they’d have such a lack of trust for another Jew.
Someone going into the master bedroom hardly seems like being violated.
rebdonielMemberWhy did the court rule that stores have to close for shabbat? Isn’t the court mostly hiloni?
rebdonielMemberThe poster is conveying his experiences on a shabbos where the news said it was as hot as meah v’esrim. You don’t have to read these posts if you don’t care.
rebdonielMemberI hope you didn’t have a far walk to shul. I was leining and davened for the amud, and walked a mile to get home in NYC, where it was sp that I had to change my shirt when I got home.
rebdonielMemberI don’t know of one Reform or other non-halakhic rabbi offering kashrut supervision in this country. Ii’ve actually started compiling a list of items with a K where the K is actually indicative of rabbinic supervision.
Why was it considered acceptable to rely on reading ingredients 40-50 years ago by very frum people, but not so much anymore? Is it because of the huge array of items with a hechsher available nowadays?
rebdonielMemberWhen I travel (frequently, I go to different places across the Eastern seaboard, to Boston, Philly, DC/Silver Spring, Roscoe/Livingston Manor, etc.), I usually just bring my own stuff in a big insulated lunchbox- hummus, salatim, crackers, sandwiches on Gluten Free bread (how convenient is eating a sandwich that’s shehakol?) fruit, cheese, chips, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese with preserves, crudites with dressing, GF bagel with cream cheese and lox, etc. When I am in places where the kosher dining scene isn’t so great, I typically eat in a similar manner.
rebdonielMemberI should add that the sources I presented in defense of R’ Abadi’s views are not heterim I personally allow in our home. As the article I paraphrased from Kashrut Authority Australia points out, the position that is taken in other countries with kashrut lists is not something we should avail ourselves of in America, since we have the most exhaustive kosher food available outside of Israel.
That being said, since cheese is often difficult to procure outside of major Jewish areas with a strict hechsher, the mozzarella issue ought to be probed further. However, we’re fortunate that the Polly-O company has gone under the OU. Cabot and all the brands with the Luhot is another matter entirely.
rebdonielMemberA suggestion I once read was to find one perek of tehillim in Pesukei deZimrah that particularly speaks to you, and focus on singing it be arikhut with a nigun you like. For me, Tehillim 150 is particularly powerful, and I like using either the Carlebach or Lewandowski tune. I’ve even heard of people using the tune “Old hundredth” for Mizmor leTodah.
rebdonielMemberIt’s very distressing. The same type of sectarianism that led to Hurban haBayit is what we have nowadays, except instead of Tzedukim, Essenes, and Perushim, etc. nowadays, it’s Reform vs. Conservative, Habad vs. Litvishe gedolim, Sephardim vs. Ashkenazim, women who wear tallitot versus the police, YU vs. YCT, the odious game of playing my rabbi versus your rabbi, one rabbi rejecting and defaming other rabbis, etc. People struggle to express mahloket in a respectful manner; to quote a rabbinical friend of mine, “you don’t have to be wrong for me to be right.”
rebdonielMemberWe’re all struggling in this world in different ways. Don’t chastize him for watching The Sopranos; we’re all doing our best to get through this life, and all of its ups and downs.
rebdonielMemberI’d take a head or two of garlic, cut the top off to expose the cloves, put a little olive oil on it, wrap it in foil, roast it 20 minutes at 350 until soft, and I’d squeeze the roasted garlic out into a bowl with some mayonnaise. Mix well.
It may be different than the type of garlic dip they sell in the stores, but I frequently have roasted garlic with hallah, and it’s delicious.
For whatever it’s worth, I even read that there’s a minhag among some Hasidim to have garlic cloves and olive oil on shabbat.
rebdonielMemberYou’re probably referring to gas stations that accomodate people going up to the mountains. Beineinu.org lists the following:
NEW JERSEY STATE
Route 17 North
1. Exxon
178 Rt. 17 North
Rochelle Park, NJ
2. Mobil
360 Rt. 17 North
Upper Saddle River, NJ
3. Valero (formerly Mobil)
193 Rt. 17 North
Mawah, NJ
(last Mobil before the thruway)
Route 17 South
1. International Motor Plaza
Truck Stop, Mawah, NJ
2. Valero (formerly Mobil)
(first Mobil after the Thruway)
198 Rt. 17 South
Mawah, NJ
3. Exxon
75 Rt. 17 south
Ramsey, NJ
4. Exxon On The Run
Ridgewood, NJ
Route 4 East
1. Exxon
120 Rt. 4 East
Engelwood, NJ
2. Exxon
484 Rt. 4 East
Engelwood, NJ
(last Exxon before the George Washington Bridge)
Route 4 West
1. Exxon
2338 Rt. 4 West
Ft. Lee, NJ
(first Exxon after the George Washington Bridge)
2. Exxon
119 Rt. 4 West
Engelwood, NJ
3. Lukoil (formerly Mobil)
20 Rt. 4 West
Hackensack, NJ
Palisades Parkway
1. Citgo Station
Between exits 4 & 5
NEW YORK STATE
Monroe
1. Exxon
Harriman, NY
At junction of NY Route 17, Route 6, & NYS Thruway
Monsey
1. Shell
Rt. 59 Between Robert Pitt Drive & Rt. 306
2. Getty On The Hill
Rt. 59 corner Remson Avenue
There used to be a gas station on the periphery of Crown Heights that had a little cafe with bourekas and all!
The Rio gas station on 38 Street in Borough Park may still have a deli.
In Monsey, there’s a gas station that seels Chaim Zieg’s famous heimishe chulent.
Something about getting chulent at a gas station is equally comical/ironic (think about how chulent affects the kishkes) and kind of disturbing. OTOH, what a testament to the vitality of suburban Americanized heimishe life in Monsey, that you have a glatt kosher gas station selling chulent, and even a 7-11 selling glatt kosher franks and other foods.
rebdonielMemberThe Nodah Be Yehuda (YD Mah. Tin. 56) was asked about the kashrut status of a certain alcoholic drink that used non-kosher animal meat as part of the production process. He paskened that as the non-kosher ingredient was totally insignificant in the final product and did not add to the taste of the same – the ingredient was considered nullified (batel) and the final product kosher. As to the prohibition of purposefully nullifying a prohibited product- Noda Be Yehuda ruled that as the drink was manufactured by non-Jews for non-Jews – there could not be placed on a non-Jew any prohibition and one only had to look at the final product. If however the product was being manufactured by Jews then the product would be considered not kosher. The Nodah Be Yehuda rules that anything that is permissible be diavad in a Jewish home is permissible le chatchila if produced by a non-Jew for non-Jews.
Many centuries earlier the Rashba dealt with a similar problem. It involved a particular food that used miniscule amounts of non-kosher vinegar in the course of production. The Rashba ruled that the product remained forbidden. He argued that the laws of nullification apply only when an ingredient falls into a product accidentally. If however it was put in on purpose then regardless of the amount and regardless of whether done by Jew or non-Jew the product remains not kosher. Indeed the Nodah Be Yehuda acknowledges the Rashba – but dismisses him. He argues that the Halakha is not like the Rashba but rather like the Rambam(whom the Nodah Be Yehuda posits disagrees with the Rashba.)
Rav Henkin, IIRC, said that this Rashba is the basis for much of the kashrut business nowadays.
In America, though, he said that when you have one brand of an iten under hashgaha and one not under hashgaha, you must buy the one with the hashgaha. The Ktav Sofer said that one may rely on this leniency of the Rambam/Noda beYehuda only when there is no equivalent product available at the same price – but if there is an equivalent product available then one should be machmir and purchase a product that has not relied on this leniency.
If a company is producing a product for the general non-Jewish market, and the company does not request certification nor does it pay for it – but rather allows the kashrut agency to investigate the product and list it as kosher – then Halakhically one may rely on nullification and other leniencies that would normally be allowed only post facto in the home of a Jew, according to Kashrut Authority in Australia.
In other countries, they rely on these kashrut lists. R’ Abadi does exactly that- he investigates items to see if they are really kosher. Furthermore, R’ Shimon Efrati, a top Rabbanut kashrut official, authored an article in Pardes 40: 3 (pp. 12-13) endorsing the same viewpoint as R’ Abadi. In other countries, R’ Abadi’s approach seems to be accepted more or less, as evidenced in the fact that there are companies that consider the kosher market as totally insignificant in places like the UK, Australia, etc. – and they give permission to have their products checked. They expect no significant increase in turnover whatsoever. In such cases nullification may be employed, or at least a less thorough sub ingredient check, as well as some other leniencies mentioned in the poskim, according to an article by Kashrut Authority Australia.
I had a discussion regarding a “K” appearing on items with someone the other day, and it turns out that in a few cases, the K actually indicates some form of rabbinical supervision, but that depends on each company involved. Kellogg’s cereals with a K/KD are really KVH, ShopRite’s kashrut guide lists R’ Dov Hazdan, R’ Sheldon Goldsmith, R’ Benjamin Weinblatt (Plaza Torah Center/Bais Yechezkel in Queens), and even R’ Nota Greenblatt as those who supervise specific items produced by ShopRite. A few gelatin brands even post such letters on their websites (R’ Goldsmith supervises Royal Bbrand gelatin, which relies on the heter of the Ahiezer, which is also how the Rabbanut holds).
rebdonielMemberHouses for $40,000? Would they let non-Hasidim in, lol. For that price, I’d even wear a hat and grow out my peyos long.
rebdonielMemberA person not reciting the blessing Shelo Asani Isha is problematic on the grounds that this was something directly instituted by Hazal. Granted, the Nusah Italki doesn’t include this braha, and it may upset our modern sensibilities, but nonetheless, it is not something that can be abrogated. Such an individual who objects ought to read the Rambam’s hakdama to the Mishneh Torah, for starters.
rebdonielMemberIt would be nice to have a frum men’s literature group in the NYC area. Anyone interested?
June 28, 2013 1:49 am at 1:49 am in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962302rebdonielMemberHis claim that Haredi Judaism is Classical Judaism is outright intellectual dishonesty.
rebdonielMemberRav Abadi certainly holds that way. Rav Abadi is a posek in Lakewood.
Soft cheeses don’t need gevinat yisrael, and if mozzarella has no mozzarella, I wouldn’t see the issue. I’ve made mozzarella before, with milk, salt,
An interesting she’eila is whether cheese that is made with rennet, but the rennet is added not by human hands, but in an automated process by machine, would be considered kasher. Polly-O with the “KD” bore the supervision of an uindistingusihed rabbi who held that the fact the rennet was added by an automated process rendered it not gevinat akum.
rebdonielMemberJF: Seriously?
rebdonielMemberThere’s no need for ad hominem attacks. Especially in the Three Weeks period that Ashkenazim supposedly sanctify.
rebdonielMemberNeither a conscious decision to remain ignorant of ma’aseh bereshit and the social and natural sciences, nor an attitude of blind obedience to human authority are religious ideals with any basis in Talmudic Judaism. Da’at torah is a relatively recent phenomenon, partially inspired by Roman Catholic teachings on papal infallibility (See Jacob Katz’s research on this issue). Hazal, the Rambam, Rav Hirsch, Rabbeinu Bechaye, etc. all attest to the great need to be schooled in all areas of higher knowledge. Sanhedrin 17a even attests to the need for education in comparative religion.
rebdonielMemberRav Aharon Lichtenstein is considered an expert on John Milton, and Paradise Lost is an incredible influence on his hashkafa (not to mention a profound inspiration on Lord of the Flies and on western civilization, in general). CS Lewis has even impacted his hashkafa. Machon Herzog, associated with Gush, has even pioneered literary study of Tanakh.
Many fine works of literature offer tremendous insight into human nature and psychology, and hence, I am methodologically making my way through many of the great books of the Western Canon.
rebdonielMemberMy thoughts on the Brisker derekh are summarized by an analogy- there are two kinds of people in this world. Those that make false dichotomies and those that don’t.
rebdonielMemberI’ve gotten in the habit of fasting Mondays and Thursdays. The hard part for me is going without water, but I find that this allows me to empathize with those in the developing countries who lack access to clean, potable water.
rebdonielMemberIt fascinates me how people who justify overturning conversions will cite the Langer Case. Poskim historically have bent over backwards to avoid agunot and mamzerim; what is done in these cases cannot be extrapolated to general psak.
rebdonielMemberThey don’t have much of one. Other than the fact that their rabbis do it, and chas ve chalila, their rabbis would be in error (the Minhat Elazar holds like this).
rebdonielMemberScience is not “prost.” If people think using anatomically-correct terms instead of krepel or schmeckie is inferior, then that is simply an insult to any intelligent, mature person who has ever studied Anatomy and Physiology, or taken a health or sex ed class. It also reflects how little many of our ilk reject science or any kind of higher learning. It is not “prost” for male doctors and health professionals to learn about gynecology, just as there is nothing inherently wrong or improper about rabbis delving into niddah and the complex issues surrounding it. Better to be mature about niddah than view it as the Karaites did.
R’ Henkin, zt”l, felt that if a couple got a civil marriage or even cohabitated and lived as a married couple would, they would need a get.
rebdonielMemberHow do we know that employee is not being dishonest? To ruin someone’s reputation and career over such an allegation is ignominious.
Paula Deen is a self-made entrepreneur and a success. Martha Stewart was another self-made woman and a huge success. Despite these allegations, Deen supported President Obama both terms, and there was an episode where she and her husband distributed gifts dressed as Santa Claus in an orphanage for young African American boys for kretchmas.
rebdonielMember1 cup lukewarm water
6 tsp. Ener-G egg replacer + 8 Tbs. water
4 cups flour (all-purpose, whole wheat pastry, or a combination of both) + more for dusting
Poppy seeds or sesame seeds (optional)
Place the dough on a floured surface. If you are making a double batch, divide the dough into 2 equal parts and continue with the rest of the steps. Cut the dough (or each half) into 3 equal pieces. Shape each piece into a ball, and then roll each ball into a long strand. Let the strands rest for 5 minutes. Transfer the strands to a baking sheet lined with parchment paper. Join the 3 strands at the top by pinching them together and turning them under. Braid the strands (cross the outer right strand over to the middle position, cross the outer left strand over to the middle position and repeat until you reach the end) and join the ends at the bottom, pinching them together and turning them under. Brush the dough with olive oil. Cover the dough again and let it rise for another hour.
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees. Brush the dough with olive oil again, sprinkle with poppy or sesame seeds, if desired, and bake for 35 minutes. The challah should be golden brown with a firm crust. It should sound hollow when you tap it. Let cool before slicing.
rebdonielMemberDepends. Not hoding like Hazal on aggadot or science is one thing. Saying that a wall that is all doorways is still a wall, or that clapping on shabbat is ok because Hazal’s gezerot are bound by context makes a person an apikores, no different than the Conservatives.
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