Health, in the Rodney King Riots 53 people were killed, 2,000 injured, and billions of dollars of property damaged. I don’t get how you can downplay it.

There is no problem because the time spent on an elevator is not enough to be shiur yichud. Igros Moshe even ha’ezer 4:65:16 makes this very clear, Sam2 said.

If a woman is dressed tzniusly and behaving in a tzniusdike manner, are there any halachic problems?

Obviously, I doubt a chassidic viber would go jogging in kiryas yoiel, but if you’re in an area where people are out and about, women exercise, and it’s not a big deal, no one cares.

nu, we have enough beheimos to deal with in the oilam without getting more. And since when does an ehrliche yid own a dog? it’s bittul torah anyway.

Temimus: if newt’s team did such a good job, why were they voted out of office, and the ‘contract with america’ effectively never implemented?

Temimus: actually, the gop congress of the 90s was notoriously ineffective and badly run by newt gingrich. and if economics are entirely decided by congress, as you say, then how can one blame obama for our economic woes?

2 teams in Football. 2 ‘end zones’ on either side of the field (which is 100 yards long). One team starts with the football, and through passing and running, tries to get it into the endzone 100 yards away. When one team scores, it’s called a touchdown and the team gets 6 points. Then, the other team will get the ball (via a kickoff) and get a chance to try to score thru passing and running w// the ball.

The quarterback is the leader of the team, and has the ball. Players on the other team try to tackle him before he can throw or pass it off, so that the quarterback’s team doesn’t score. The quarterback has defenders (Called linemen) that defend against the other team tackling the quarterback.

Football might look like a bunch of 300 pound guys jumping on each other, but it’s a little more complicated.

^ surprised the mods let that nivul peh through the system.

Anyway, Chazal argued with each other all the time bizman hagemara. Rambam and Raavad disagreed on nearly everything. The Rema’s minhagim differed from the beis yosef’s, but we still value and treasure both- they are mamash on the same page!! Many respectable rabbonim burned moreh nevuchim- are they apikorsim for disagreeing with rambam? Vilna Gaon said Rambam was very misguided. He also put all chassidic rebbes in cherem.

My point is, arguing and challenging are integral parts of Judaism and the halachic system. When we stop arguing and challenging, we will eventually stop coming up with chiddushim and new ways of applying age-old wisdom to our own times. However, all arguing must be done in the spirit of ‘machlokes l’lsheim shomayim.’ regarding the shelo asani beracha, most of the people arguing for its removal are certainly not arguing l’shem shomayim. However, they haven’t violated any of the ikkarei emunah, so what is the havah aminah for saying they are apikorsim? There are girsos that have one beracha as she’asani yisrael, and several poskim even rule you should say that one beracha, which will allow you to not say the other ones, which could be levatalah. With that much confusion, you cannot go outright and call them apikorsim

Regarding the separate entrances for men and women, that is merely an example of implementing integration and equality between genders, something the United States has had for many years. It would be unconstitutional for a public clinic to have separate hours or entrances in the U.S., especially since blacks were treated in very much the same way, with separate water fountains, theaters, separate entrances to restaurants, and seating on busses. why is it okay for that to happen in Israel but not America?

Wow HaKatan, the more hyperbolic and angry you get, the more I’m starting to agree with you (insert sarcasm here).

I can just as easily say that your statements aren’t statements and shailos aren’t shailos. You also have a terrible habit of brushing all Zionists under one brush. Do you think the hundreds of thousands of religious zionists view Tanach as a mere cultural relic? Do you think they agree with EVERYTHING the state does? Chas V’shalom and you are really slandering a lot of amazing rabbanim and fellow Jews in general. Shabbos observance, kashrus, and general shmiras hamitzvos is very much on the rise in Israel, and that brings mashiach, not criticizing them as Ovdei Avodah Zarah- ever heard of kiruv??

You also said the Zionists “need” the charedim. Lol. The tzionim are doing pretty well by themselves, innovating in high-tech, science, medicine, and every field imaginable, without much chareidi help. I yearn for a time where all Jews living in the state will learn and value Torah, and all Jews will enjoy good education, high paying jobs, economic sustainability (why dont many chareidim have any of these?)

Once again, you ignoring yad Hashem thru the nissim and niflaos of every Israeli war, and the continuing hashgacha klalis that allows Israel to survive and thrive is tantamount to perhaps even apikorsus (I dont use that word lightly).

So many Jews became frum after 1967, even these frei yidden saw the nissim. Why can’t you?

Peoples’ feelings do matter, and if shopping was legitimately being bullied or harassed, we would have a real problem. However, she was just being told honestly and fairly politely by one or two people how they think she should post less- that’s it! There is no need for tears, capital letters, and lots of exclamation marks. At the end of the day, I agree with Slichos. If you really get so ticked off by what an anonymous commenter says in the YWN CR, that in itself is a big problem.

Popa, why do you say that? It doesn’t seem like you’re joking, so I’d just like to advise you that inflammatory statements like that do not add to the achdus of klal yisrael.

Regarding the metzius itself, you think it is better for someone not to learn ANY Torah their entire lives rather than diligently and meaningfully learn gemara, rishonim, shulchan aruch, or other Jewish texts from a knowledgeable guy like rav linzer? Halachically, that seems problematic as every minute of Torah is worthwhile and David Hamelech even learned from Achitophel, a far less decent dude than Rav Linzer!

Also, when YCT rabbanim teach gemara shiurim, for example, correct me if I am wrong (based on your first hand knowledge) but I do not believe they are teaching it with any particular agenda in mind, just like Brisk, Vizhnitz, and YU don’t have political agendas when learning shas and poskim, they simply go through the gemara as Jews have done for thousands of years. YCT probably saves their politics for a different time, which is why it’s so machlokesdik and unfair to say their Torah learning is not real learning.

A question to ponder: I know of a conservative rabbi in my community that reportedly went through the entire Rambam Sefer Ahavah. Is it better had this non-frum guy (who I personally wouldn’t call rabbi, per rav moshe) not learn at all?

Sam 2: but didn’t the avos keep all the mitzvos? the shevatim would have learned much torah from yaakov avinu, Rashi even brings the midrash of Yosef specifically learning the sugyah of Eglah Arufah.

So are you instead saying that they knew the mitzvos but purposefully didn’t keep them, because they were patur before kabbalas hatorah? that seems like a big stretch and you need a rai’ah.

Okay first of all DaMoshe, you may indeed be a talmid chacham, but even so how can you as another human being judge the quality of Reb Doniel’s talmud torah? You even have the chutzpah to say that since he learns in yeshivas and institutions you disagree with, you’re now positive he isn’t even learning! While I too disagree with the Open Orthodox/conservadox ideology, a Daf Yomi shiur given by Rav Dov Linzer (head of yet) for example, is still learning, still valuable, and he is still a very smart guy. Please treat these rabbanim and their derech halimud with some respect, even if you disagree with them hashkafically, or even halachically. Reb Doniel certainly seems very knowledgeable in the mekoros.

Also, regarding Get, isn’t there an idea that if many years ago when Jewish courts had power, if the husband was misarev the beis din could literally send thugs to beat him up until he gave the get? Bizman hazeh, when basei din cannot physically beat anyone up, I would think they should still be able to economically and socially compel the husband to give a get. Is this correct?

I find that reading before going to bed helps me go to sleep faster and avoid all that weird stuff ur talking about.

Wait one second. We have incontrovertible evidence that Rav Stav was PHYSICALLY ATTACKED by a number of chareidim at a chashuv wedding of the kosel rav’s daughter in bnei brak. A Shas MK was mevayez a talmid chacham by leaving the mitzvah tanz after Rav Stav joined. Finally, Rav Stav was forced to leave the chasunah after violence and insults escalated, and hundreds of people shouted at him and called him names like rasha and shikutz as he left.

When was violence ever okay, especially to a talmid chacham and respected rav? Why don’t the chareidi gedolim condemn this attack, and criticize those members of their tzibbur that feel it is appropriate to push a rav around?

Perhaps the RCA could’ve been a little more respectful, but they certainly did not physically attack Chacham Yosef (c”v), as chareidim did to rav stav!

Whoever wrote that nasty comment has no actual authority, and cannot speak “on behalf of the cr.” They’re probably just looking for attention, or feel like starting a machlokes around here, or maybe stam a troll.

Sam: That’s circular logic. The reason a woman cant wear a tallis is because of beged ish. but its only beged ish if women were banned from wearing talleisim- but they’re not! regarding tefillin, chazal say michal wore it. many hold rashi’s daughters did too.

rambams rule about mitzvos shehazman geramah should hold up for women wearing tefillin. if you disagree with that, its on you to bring a rayah. just know its a big deal to go against a pashut rambam.

If the sole intention of WoW was to come closer to Hashem through davening and being medakdek in doing mitzvos, everyone who attacked this group would owe them a huge apology. HOWEVER, this is not the case.

The leaders of this group constantly make videos, talk to the press, announce things on their website, and talk about themselves to gain publicity. These actions honestly overshadow their performance of mitzvos and stain theim. WoW also causes fighting and controversy. Because of that, while in theory what they do is okay, the WAY in which they do it causes so much problems it would be better if they didnt do the mitzvos at all!

Just because Muslims do it doesn’t intrinsically make the act bad- in fact, in this case it could be great by improving kavanah and yirah during davening, while making shul a serious place, without leitzonus.

Accept emes from whatever its source- kalus Rosh is bad in davening whether or not Muslims say its bad

That is true. But the way to defeat the yetzer harah is not isolation and detachment, its by turning chop into kodesh. Not using the Internet could actually be very bad, if you could be using it lekadesh shem shomayim and learning Torah, etc.

If you have a good support system of values and love of yiddishkeit from home, the Internet is absolutely no problem. If not, it can lead to aveira

I don’t think the shidduch crisis has anything to do with numbers. Maybe that has some impact, but this isn’t China, where there are literally 120 boys for 100 girls. In a population of billions, that matters. The frum community isn’t big enough for that to matter.

If anything, lots of blame can be directed at the system itself for creating this problem. But this isn’t the thread for that issue