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in circumstances where you are unsure if a person is doing something wrong or not, be dan l’kaf zechus. The gemara in shabbos 127b says that if you judge others favorably and positively, you yourself will be judged that way too. I don’t think you should worry about finding kulahs when this din doesn’t apply- instead just judge others positively all the time!
rationalfrummieMembercrdle- doesn’t eshkol mean a bunch of grapes? how are those 2 connected? I don’t know who you’re hanging around, but nearly all sefaradim I know pronounce hebrew differently than ashkenazim. sefaradim distinguish between an aleph/ayin, chet/hay, and kaf/qof, for example.
Therefore, they can spell more easily because spelling becomes phonetic- no sefaradi would ever spell ra’iti with an “ayin” because an ayin and an aleph sound different (ayin is more guttural)!!!
rationalfrummieMemberMorahRach- I would only call you racist if based on these stats you said that white people “are smarter” than black people, or something similar about ashkenazim vs. sefaradim. IQ tests do not take poverty, education, or cultural opportunities into account. 70% of black kids are raised by one parent. 1 in 3 black men will go to jail at some point in their lives. How can anyone ignore these obvious social and economic handicaps and instead insist that blacks are innately less smart?? We need ALL kids to have access to good education, and opportunities to succeed, bimheirah b’yameinu, amen!
rationalfrummieMemberFor more on IQ testing, read up on the Flynn Effect, which has basically proven that IQ scores have been rising EVERYWHERE in the world and among all races and nationalities for the past 100 years! That is why they keep having to modify IQ tests every so often, because they get too easy! A typical teenager today has an IQ of 100. If tested today, schoolchildren during the early 1900s would be considered mentally ill, with IQs in the 70s. It’s fascinating.
Regarding the Sefaradi community, I am sefaradi, I do not live in a sefaradi community, and I find RD’s comments to be quite offensive. The fact that Syrians, as immigrants, have done so well in business should be something to celebrate, not denigrate. If you want to see sefaradic learning, get in touch with the sefaradic semicha program at yu, or go to eretz yisrael and learn in yeshivat porat yosef or kisei rachamim.
rationalfrummieMemberhe gave us those words, and those annoying people. He also gave us marijuana- that doesn’t mean you need to do it.
rationalfrummieMemberwell, that got weird. The demons are at work!
rationalfrummieMemberzd, it doesn’t seem from the comments above that there are any good reasons to be machmir not to ride a bike. Nishtday stood up for the rights of frumkeit, and made a kiddush hashem by being rude to Jews having a civil conversation and pretending that bans don’t exist (sarcasm goes here).
rationalfrummieMembercrdle: Exactly! you guys have to hang around sefaradim (especially people from edut hamizrach) more often, and then you’ll learn to spell in hebrew perfectly.
shopping: if you have good ideas, it really doesn’t matter how you spell ’em. not sure why everyone is giving you such a hard time!
rationalfrummieMemberWIY is saying that stories written in magazines like ami and mishpachah are written by ppl with different opinions and perspectives. You have to stay skeptical about anything that you read in print, because odds are it is biased or only giving u 1 side of the story.
July 29, 2013 2:51 am at 2:51 am in reply to: What do YOU think is the most important part of a song and why? #969150rationalfrummieMemberI’m with popa. it’s all about WHERE you’re singing the song. the tune, words, and singer could be terrible, but if you’re listening to a song, and then suddenly find a free parking space in manhattan, for example, that song is now officially, eternally awesome.
vice versa applies to. so, if you’re blasting some Udi Davidi (famous israeli singer) in the middle of kiryas yoel, that song NOW becomes bad, even if it WAS actually good. It’s all relative.
rationalfrummieMembernu, kol she’kein.
rationalfrummieMemberra’iti has an alef, btw. Which is just another reason why being sefaradi is awesome, because you can actually be mechalek between letters like alef and ayin and your spelling greatly improves!
And yeah, that would be really cool if more people posted in hebrew- I need the practice!
Torah613: english is a hard language to master in terms of spelling and grammar because of silent letters, non-phonetic spelling, counter-intuitive grammatical rules and many exceptions to those rules! I personally speak hebrew, arabic, and spanish. English is hands down the most annoying to learn.
rationalfrummieMemberregarding your quote from koheles, when writing that pasuk he was bitter, and not unlikely a tad depressed. I don’t think you should follow his example (ditto for the part where he drinks, parties, and spends money in excess).
Look to the end of koheles for some real wisdom- “sof dovor, hakol nishmoh, es haelokim yiroh, ve’es mitzvosav sh’mor.” As long as you’re doing that, God will be with you on your search.
On a personal note, im also in shidduchim and while not quite as melancholy about it as you are, I’ve gotta say the experience is overall really emotionally draining and difficult.! Kol tuv to you.
rationalfrummieMemberrambam by hilchos shechenim perek gimmel somewhere interprets the first dapim in bava basra regarding nezek re’iyah rationally, and that it’s not ayin harah as some meforshim say.
rationalfrummieMemberWho cares? politics is a dirty game that’s all about money and staying in power. No one really cares about the poor, they just make speeches pretending to so they can get cash and more votes.
All the people here saying they’re sure candidate x will do this or that- why are you so sure? A candidate’s record merely details what they did voted for to stay in power!
July 25, 2013 5:29 am at 5:29 am in reply to: Safek whether a woman bentched (bonus true story at the end) #967493rationalfrummieMemberjf- haha, I was indeed notified by persons involved that I would be seeing her again :).
oomis- I’m with you on that one! I always thought you keep it light on the first date…
rationalfrummieMemberYes, Israel’s gov and army aren’t perfect. However, if you are chareidi and you live in eretz yisrael, you do so thanks to the Israeli army. Without it, Israel would quickly be run over by terrorists and other arab armies, and a second holocaust (r”l) could occur. As long as Israel is strong, that won’t happen, and therefore, every bachur in Mir is safe from attack.
Of course we would like the army to be more accomodating to frum soldiers, and for overall Israeli society to help chareidim rather than turn against them. However, as long as the soldiers keep preventing Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and other enemies from attacking Israel, you should real feel grateful to be learning in eretz hakodesh, and able to walk the land of our avos and imahos in safety.
rationalfrummieMemberNosson does not understand that by doing household chores he is being mekayem at least two mitzvos dioraisa– kibbud av va’em and ve’ahavtah le’reyechah kamochah. Explain to him, in a gentle and calm manner, that every day for a little while, it is very important to stop studying and do some maasim tovim, putting your learning into effect in the real world.
rationalfrummieMemberPBA: You love doing mitzvos where you get to be purposefully rude and mean to other human beings. If your conscience is okay with that, go ahead. Just know that being annoying isn’t going to make people want to listen to what you have to do say.
WIY: Wrong. The people that stand up so zealously for what they believe in are called Kanoim, and they are the ones who get in the goyishe newspapers because they act so foolishly, supposedly for the sake of standing up for tznius, shabbos, etc. Throwing a rock at a car on shabbos is standing up for shabbos and yiddishkeit, but it’s stupid all the same and a chilllul hashem. Making fun of YCT might be okay and even a mitzvah, but it causes massive rifts in klal yisroel. Why don’t you accept them with one hand and push with the other as the gemara says, rather than push away with both?? Or are you too smart for the gemara now?
July 24, 2013 3:36 am at 3:36 am in reply to: Who are the top ten posters that EVERYONE knows? #1070028rationalfrummieMemberDepends on the post. If it is about learning, you’ll see Sam2, Rebdoniel, and Daas Yochid. If it’s about other stuff, you’ll see Popa, Shopping 613, and a bunch of other people like Torah613, WIY, Toi, and sometimes me!
rationalfrummieMember“20 qs fo ‘yo posek.” That is incredibly funny- hands down best line I’ve seen in the CR in a looong time. Thanks Vogue!
Also, you have an incredible gift of a rav that you are comfortable asking questions and talking to. Make use of that precious gift!
rationalfrummieMemberHakatan: How can you blame a massacre on those that were massacred? Would you blame America for 9/11? Would you blame the Jews and Muslims for the Crusades? NO!!
With all due respect you’re a kanoi and a daas yachid whose voice is lost over the sound of millions of yidden davening to Hashem at the kosel, and returning to frumkeit because of eretz yisrael,Jewish pride, and the easiness of being Jewish in Israel. In Israel, we no longer suffer at the hands of the goyim. Isn’t that a good thing? Do you really want to prolong the tzarus of the hidden?
Has it ever entered your mind that our control of the Kosel is because of hashem’s help? Why can’t you open your eyes and see that He was behind the nissim of the 6 day war. Thousands of secular Jews became frum after that war—- why can’t you it if those tinokei shenishbah did?? Ignoring Hashgochah Pratis is not very frum (kefirah) and not very rational either.
rationalfrummieMemberActually, Zionists do have answers. We just don’t scream “shmad” like you do and act like vilde chayas, so people ignore us :(. Here is a direct quote from wikipedia about Rabkin: “Rabkin can’t resist from widely citing people who name-call and painting all Zionists as evil… This style of writing diminishes the credibility of his argument.” Does that sound like a good, unbiased historian to you? Me neither.
Regarding the Chevron Massacres, how you can even begin to legitimize a cold-blooded massacre that killed 67 yidden is beyond me. That is evil at its core, and yet you still ignore it.
Also, your idyllic picture of yishuvim and peaceful settlements were all started by zionists!! Before Zionists started yishuvim as part of the Bilu movement, Israel was a sparsely populated dump. The Zionists, with their farming communities in places like Rishon l’Tzion paid for by people like the Rothschilds literally drained the swamps and made the desert bloom, per all the nevuahs that said this would happen.
I also yearn for mashiach to come and the beis hamikdash to be built. I just see an autonomous Jewish gov with frum Jews, control of yerushalayim/kotel, and the fact that Israel survives despite 300 million Arabs that want it destroyed as signs that the geulah is coming and Zionism is a big part of it.
rationalfrummieMemberIf the Arabs were so kind to the Jews, why did they turn on them so suddenly following zionism? After all, shouldn’t their kind hearts have understood that not all Jews believe the same things? 856,000 Jews were expelled from Arab lands. Where is the outcry over their Nakba? You just don’t care.
From 30 seconds online, I saw that Rabkin is praised by a whole host of anti-semitic French writers and that he is criticized by all real seekers of emes as being historically inaccurate.
If you actually cared about real history, you would have read Der Judenstaat, Herzl’s manifesto where he talks specifically about how anti-semitism influenced him and NOT, as you claim hatred of Judaism.
He writes: “We have sincerely tried everywhere to merge with the national communities in which we live, seeking only to preserve the faith of our fathers. It is not permitted us. In vain are we loyal patriots, sometimes superloyal; in vain do we make the same sacrifices of life and property as our fellow citizens.”
rationalfrummieMember^ No it doesn’t. He doesn’t understand that equality doesn’t mean that everyone has to be the same. A man can be called a Rabbi, and a woman can be called a maharat in the yct world and to them they are the equal, regardless of their titles because they play equal religiously important roles in that world.
You oversimplify their position, and then make fun of your oversimplification, instead of finding the real facts. That’s not funny, it’s simply immature and ignorant leitzonus. If you want to make fun of apikorsim and apikorsus go ahead, but it’s a foolish endeavor. Either complain to the people that matter (people that actually DISAGREE with you), and have a real substantive discussion, or go do something else that doesn’t attack other Jews, dividing us even more and making the geulah drag on and on because of your leitzonus…
rationalfrummieMemberIf you really want to do something impactful to stop them, go protest and send letters to members of your tzibbur, or do anything other than just saying leitzonus on the coffee room.
Why do you like making fun of people? That doesn’t sound like a very torahdig activity
rationalfrummieMemberToi, honestly why would the Arabs kick out the Jews of their countries just because other Jews do something that makes them bad? That honestly doesn’t sound like intelligent, rational behavior does it? I forgot to mention that those countries had rulers that were pro-nazi. the grand mufti of jerushalayim yimach shmo was a big supporter of hitler yimach shmo. How can Health and Hakatan say that these reshaim protected yidden?
rationalfrummieMemberWhy did the Zionists create the State of Israel? Because they were kicked out of nearly every single other country in the world! Theodore Herzl was at the trial of Dreyfus where he saw the captain get humiliated in front of all of France. He realized that the Jews needed a safe place. Why are you so opposed to saving Jewish lives? That’s all Herzl wanted to do, based on his anti-semitic experiences in Europe.
Regarding Jews in Arab lands, the Jews were expelled from Egypt in 1956. The citizenship of every Libyan Jew was revoked in 1961. The Jews of Iraq were expelled in 1951. Algerian Jews were forced out in 1962. Great friends those Arabs were, huh?
rationalfrummieMemberPopa, why do you care so much about what YCT rabbis do or believe? You are the one that makes a bigger deal out of it than anyone else!
Also, your friday night meal would be better served with divrei torah, chizuk or whatever. point is, don’t use that time of kedushah to bash other Jews and waste time talking about their shtus.
rationalfrummieMemberreb doniel, thank you for directly answering the question and I like your theory that it’s an example of the surge in didactic learning in the frum velt, especially after the war.
Sam2: What are some of those theories? Would you agree with RD?
Some questions remain. Why does the Aruch Hashulchan rely on the Yerushalmi when for centuries the Bavli has been the classic primary halachic text?
Also, many a time the Mishnah Berurah will refrain from issuing a psak on a shailah and instead just say it’s good to be machmir. He is very uncomfortable with picking shitahs among the rishonim. On the other hand, the Aruch Hashulchan does that regularly.
To sum up, which sefer should be followed, and why?
rationalfrummieMemberthe ignorance of basic world history on this thread is astounding.
rationalfrummieMemberThat’s a shtickel shvach, Toi.
July 19, 2013 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm in reply to: LET US PROTEST: Major Kosher Supermarkets In Catskills Refuse To Use Price Tags #966756rationalfrummieMemberAkuperma, are you saying progress is good? Are you saying it is good even when progress results in geneivas da’as? I’m surprised- you’re usually so vigilant and machmir reminding everyone how evil zionists are and how low Jews have fallen. And suddenly, you are davka the one to forget basic choshen mishpat?!! Hmm.
rationalfrummieMemberYou should know that armies have rules. In most armies of the western world, there is a rule that hair has to be a certain length and beards are a no-no. This is the rule in the United States as well- would you call the U.S. army comparable to the nazis chas v’sholom?!
In the United States, there have been a string of court cases about religious muslims and sikhs that want to keep their beards and most of the time they get to. However, it takes time to change the army’s rules. I hope Israel will change the rules, but you have to be patient. You cannot barge in and expect everyone to do everything you want at the moment you want it. What chutzpah.
rationalfrummieMemberI got into the game fairly recently and yes, it’s definitely harder than I imagined it would be. best of luck to you, WIY. you certainly seem very learned and sensitive, at least virtually.
rationalfrummieMemberRegarding runaways, it’s actually quite pashut. See Devarim 23:16.
rationalfrummieMemberDaas2: Regarding what ROB said, if it is a milchemes mitzvah then talmidei chachamim fight too
July 16, 2013 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: Which is better: a bad chavrusa or no chavrusa? #966358rationalfrummieMemberPopa: Google “women in law,” and you’ll find that indeed 47% of law students are women, 33% of all practicing lawyers are women, and 32% of all federal judges are women. There are 3 women on the Supreme Court. Yes, feminists and women’s rights people want more progress to be made on this front, but the numbers as is are strong enough evidence to prove my point. (Pro tip: Instead of asking people to google things, you could try writing your own words or at least summarizing.)
WIY: Perhaps, but there are many women in the goyish world that are smart enough to become lawyers. However, in a very similar area of learning gemara, people here are saying that they know women can’t learn, even though women use similar skills as lawyers all the time. Also, are you a neuroscientist? How do you know that men specifically have gemara kups and women do not? Could you quote a scientific study to back up this claim?
rationalfrummieMemberslavery is TOLERATED by the Torah. no one would say you have to have slaves, and adderabah, if a slave flees you cannot go and capture him. compared to the american fugitive act in the 1850s this is very, very moral.
rationalfrummieMemberit’s always about shidduchim, isn’t it
July 16, 2013 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm in reply to: Which is better: a bad chavrusa or no chavrusa? #966353rationalfrummieMember“The way the gemara is structured is geared towards the way men learn”
The Gemara is a legal text of questions, answers, and machlokeses. If you are right that womens’ brains cannot handle Gemara, then why are there so many female lawyers? Today, half of all law school graduates are women, and these women have to handle complex trial cases, read briefs, and argue in front of courts. Would you really say they are inferior to men as well, even though they graduate at the same rate and do the same exact tasks?
rationalfrummieMemberhamotzi mechaveiro alav harayah, he did bring you a mekor from pesachim.
rationalfrummieMemberso defend yourself, DY! This is the milchamta shel torah we’re waging!!! Let the chilonim physically fight for the moment, and explain why ROB’s mekoros aren’t valid!
rationalfrummieMemberWhy is everyone here equating pacing with disregard of kavanah and derech eretz? I very much care about tefillah, value my time in very much, and nonetheless pace in front of my seat to concentrate, especially if everyone else is standing. What’s the problem, concentrate on your own tefillah!
rationalfrummieMemberAchot hit the nail on the head. medicine for bedwetting is available and works like a charm. Send your kid with some of that, and he should be fine.
rationalfrummieMemberAchot hit the nail on the head. medicine for bedwetting is available and works like a charm. Send your kid with some of that, and he should be fine.
rationalfrummieMemberThe oz v’hadar mesivta shas set is, as WIY said really, really big! You will need lots of shelves to make room for this set, but if your husband wants clear printing and a lot of extra mefarshim you should go for it. It is fairly affordable, listed at around $850 at the site I checked.
Personally, I love the Nehardea shas set (by moznaim). I saw it listed at $785. It comes in 22 volumes and is very user-friendly.
rationalfrummieMemberAlso, as the Rabbi of Berlin mentioned, Daas Yochid misses the point that talmidei chachamim MUST cease their talmud torah and go fight along with the rest of the am UNLESS torah umnaso, torah is their occupation full-time.
that would mean most chareidim not serving right now would have to serve except for the select few that are in it full-time. Back in the alte heim, there was a select elite group of talmidei chachamim that learned, and most other ‘chareidim’ back then worked. The Chofetz Chaim had a grocery store, chayei adam sold gunpowder, etc.
rationalfrummieMemberrabbiofberlin: I wouldn’t go so far as to say I KNOW he is lying, it’s just hard to prove a point over the internet based on an anonymous anecdote. He may be lying, he may be telling the truth, but because we just don’t know, he cannot use that as a raiyah.
Akuperma: Isn’t fighting a war to increase the territory of eretz yisrael a milchemes mitzvah? wars fought by the IDF increases the territory of eretz yisrael, especially in ’67 when Israel’s territory tripled. What is the chareidi anti-zionist defense to this?
DY: I assumed you would better understand why many chilonim are upset. Your response is apathy to their concerns, and that is a very dangerous way to approach diplomacy in politics.
Popa: You know, now that you posted a condescending comment, I’m really starting to see how your argument is valid (insert sarcasm here). Laughing does not further your argument, and annoys me. If you genuinely think my shailah missed the “whole issue” identify the issue, if you can do it coherently. I’m not convinced you can, so prove me wrong!.
rationalfrummieMemberKasher, show me where I have belittled gedolim and I will gladly apologize. If not, you’re merely trying to smear. Seeing as this is an online anonymous forum, you have no idea where I’ve been, and I likewise don’t know what you’ve done, or if you’re telling the truth, so I cannot take your personal anecdotes as fact.
I had not read about this general, but I do know a lot about chashuv dati leumi rebbeim like rav aharon lichtenstei and rav dov lior who certainly do support hesder learning, and are established talmidei chachomim. Very serious dati leumi rabbanim and leaders have served in the army, remained frum, and are upstanding jews. why can’t chareidim follow in that example?
DY: I believe that this applies only when it’s not a shas hadechak. And I would venture to guess that if you told this secular people, they would feel frustrated that chareidim don’t serve simply because there are others to pick up the work. that’s not a halachic point, but think about how it would sound to them. “I can’t do this because YOU can, so go do it.”
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