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I agree with almost everything written here, but I venture that almost none of you commenters have actually paid for a child’s wedding.
Let me inform you that you are low man on the totem pole. You have hopefully a wife, a chosson and kallah, a mechutan and the dreaded machateinister . The sum you do not want to spend is of no consequence, you are not the boss. Get that into your head. The decisions have been made long before the couple has met, and you did not make them. Wedding in the living room, no band, no fancy shtreimel or sheitel or gold watch, well, good luck. I am rooting for you, believe me.A few of you (be in the appropriate chassidus) may even be successful in changing society and human nature. But most of you will bite the bullet and wonder where you went wrong. You didn’t go wrong, you were in the right. But life is a bit stronger than your pure intentions. As the saying goes, “Father of chosson or kallah? Keep your mouth shut and your checkbook open”.
This Rav who managed to pull it all off for a paltry sum needs to be regarded as no less than a hero. Spread his message far and wide. Then try it on your son-in-law tachshit who just spent two years in Brisk tilting his hat “just right” while polishing off his astronomical market value. I’d love to see you, I know how to treat a black eye.
rationalParticipantOne can choose to view the establishment of a Jewish State as a positive and desirable expression of God’s will to help His people return to their Homeland. It is a gift to embrace and cherish. The Mechanism and Process that He used to enact this return to Eretz Hakodesh and what comes next was and is for Him to decide. I choose this view.
Alternatively, one can view the establishment of the Jewish State as a condemnation or punishment by God. He loosened the restraints of the Sitra Achra, the cosmic force of evil, as a result of our betrayal of Him. Who betrayed Him? The Enlightened, the Reformists, the Zionists, the Yiddishists, the Communists, and more. We are destined to suffer from this terrible and painful long-lasting debacle until the Moshiach reveals himself, bem’herah v’yameinu.
Unless of course we win the Yeshiva Lottery and get two free tickets on United (El-Al? shumu shamayim) to enjoy all the beautiful and holy (sic) sites in Palestine, maybe even visit our nephew in Brisk. Then we just ignore those evil forces and have a great time at Ein Gedi and the Banyas. And once we’re here, we’ll chap some Geulah (ironic name, no?) chulent on Thursday night and grab a black & white at the Brooklyn Bakery. Ahh, the pleasures of pure golus. A m’chayeh. Don’t miss the Koisel Tunnels.
rationalParticipantMeshicha? Ouch, might as well try hagbahah . The first mishna in Kiddushin may be a nice place to start studying the kinyanim that apply to marriage
rationalParticipantIn a Chuppah d’ Main, they would walk arm in arm in the morning before the formal wedding took place
rationalParticipantIf we are are moving towards (or have been there for some time) super-specialized rabbinics, maybe the standard semicha יורה יורה באיסור והיתר should be replaced. There can be מתרץ קושיות רע”א אבל אין לי מושג בפסולי ס”ת , or the like.
It’s very honest when a Rosh Yeshiva doesn’t consider himself a posek, but it’s not a good policy. I wonder how many would be willing to accept a person who says “I’m a Rav. I’m not a lamdan or posek, I don’t know whether we say Av Harachamim today, and I don’t even read Hebrew, but I don’t need to. I specialize in hashgachas for frum cruise-ship voyages”. Slippery slope.rationalParticipantDear YO,
I respect your views, but this OP is for high school kids at best. Go help your wife make Shabbat, your time will be better spent. That’s where I’m going now.rationalParticipantAkuperma is right, except that literary Hebrew never died, but spoken Hebrew did. (a trivial point, it is pronunciation).
I’ll add to Akuperma’s list the letters that Ashkenazim pronounce differently than North Africans and Middle Easterners.
The Gimel, Vav, Tet, Samech, Tzadi (k), Kuf, Resh, Sin, and Tav.
So the OP’s question is misleading, it’s not only the Ayin.rationalParticipantif the price is too high, don’t buy
rationalParticipant“…thinly veiled argument that everyone should just be super meikel and eat borderline treif ”
OU, Rabbanut, Triangle K, and maybe other hechsherim that I missed being mentioned going around the CR block a few times are apparently the reference point in this statement.
Implying that any one of these hechsherim is borderline treif is quite a heavy accusation, and seriously weakens the argument. If one wants to be taken seriously, it’s best to stick to verifiable facts and avoid the hyperbole.
rationalParticipant“against can have the meaning in comparison to. They are on opposite sides being matched up with each other.”
Precisely. The two are “not the same”.They are being compared, meaning there are distinctions and differences between them that are being noted. That is in contradiction to what is meant by “seudah shlishit is k’neged spiritual attributes of shabbat”
In order to understand the use of “against” in this context, one must first translate it back into the Hebrew k’neged, and then switch to the medrashic use of the word instead of its more direct meaning. Convoluted.
I’m signing off.
Shabbat Shalom and Chag Sameach from Israel the Zionist Jewish State.
Gut Shabbes and Gut Yuntiff from Eretz Yisroel.rationalParticipantI looked it up in the dictionary and below is what I found. I am aware that the Hebrew k”neged can be used as “in opposition to” and in lashon chachamim as intending “corresponding to” as in “k”neged arba’ah banim”, which obviously does not mean “adverse to”.
That was my objection to the translation of k’neged as “against”. I do not see in the definition below any mention of the word “against” as “corresponding to”, as all the descriptions are along the lines of “in opposition to, adverse to”, that is, a negative connotation. The third seudah on Shabbat is definitely not negatively disposed to or “against” any kabbalistic or Jewish concept.I do accept the explanation above that it is a translation from Yiddish. I am not interested in criticizing perverted translations from Yiddish to English, except to say they are incomprehensible to someone who grew up speaking American English.
a·gainst
/əˈɡenst/
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preposition
1.
in opposition to.
“the fight against crime”
synonyms: opposed to, in opposition to, hostile to, averse to, antagonistic toward, inimical to, unsympathetic to, resistant to, at odds with, in disagreement with, contra; More
2.
in anticipation of and preparation for (a problem or difficulty).
“insurance against sickness and unemployment”
synonyms: in case of, in/as provision for, in preparation for, in anticipation of, in expectation of
“it is advisable to insure all oriental rugs against theft”rationalParticipant“There are three tefilos which the Tur explains is against three shabosos,”
Ouch. K’neged does not mean “against”. Translating to imply the opposite of the intent makes the sentence incomprehensible. K’neged means parallel to or representative of. Not “against”. No offense.
June 6, 2019 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1739696rationalParticipantOh my goodness, someone is on the attack, and attacking others too. Sad.
I suggest you take some lessons in open-mindedness. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I sense that you have not read the scholarly books written in Hebrew. Not Fleischer, not Ta Shma, not Yaakov Katz, not Goldschmidt, not Grossman, not even Zimmer. If I’m wrong, I apologize and you win. If I’m right, then we’ll end this discussion because to come to a personal conclusion, argue for it, and attack someone to boot, one has to have done the homework. So either way, end of discussion.June 6, 2019 11:30 am at 11:30 am in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1739533rationalParticipantCorrection to a typo.
Rabbeinu Gershom’s venerable teacher was Rabbi Leontin (Lion), sometimes known as Aryeh or Gur Aryeh.rationalParticipantUbiquitin: Here you go
“אִם יִקְחוּ מִמֶּנּוּ יָתֵד לִתְלוֹת עָלָיו כָּל כֶּלִי” (יחזקאל טו:ג
“תוקע יתד בארץ וסומך עליו את הקורה” (תוספתא בבא בתרא א, ג
June 6, 2019 8:46 am at 8:46 am in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1739297rationalParticipantJoseph:
1. Collected Essays I and II by Haym Soloveitchik (English)
2. מנהג אשכנז הקדמון , ישראל תא-שמע
3. Criticism and response Soloveitchik-Brody found in Soloveitchik’s personal siteThis is a good start, of course there is more
I will not deal here with amateurs who “claim to know” based on biased half-baked sources from different time periods. Anyone familiar with population migration, the founder effect and other phenomena knows that conclusive evidence, DNA or not, is virtually impossible. Furthermore, quantity is worth much less than quality. Simply being an Ashkenazic Jew does not confer influence on the halachah, culture or customs of the entire group. The existence of one Rabbeinu Gershom was far more influential than a hundred post-churban ashkenazic Jews somewhere in Europe.
There are strong arguments on both sides of this debate. The common denominator is that there is a paucity of reliable information on the history of Ashkenazic Jewry. Just for starters, find some reliable information on Rabbeinu Gershom’s teacher, Rabbi Levontin. Other than his Italian name, we know virtually nothing about him.Only a reading of the books (they are long) will present a more informative picture. Some of the material is in Hebrew, a necessity here. I am also an amateur and I differ to the scholars. But I read them, and they are all worth reading. No shortcuts. The last word has not been spoken .
rationalParticipantIn Tanach, there are words that operate as male or female. The most famous is דרך , as anyone who studied the beginning of masechet kiddushin knows. Others are ארץ, קצה, יתד,דוב , and many others.
There are essentially three dialects that we deal with, each with its own rules and quirks. One is Lashon Tanachi, second is Lashon Chachamim-Chazal (mishna, gemara, siddur and machzor) and the third is Vernacular-Modern Hebrew (עברית מדוברת). Of course there are subgroups and sub-sub groups.
In spoken Hebrew, the plural of טלית is טליתות. So declared the אקדמיה ללשון. Proofs from Chazal are not proofs, they are just לשון חז”ל. Notice that Chazal replaced the Tanachic ש (sin) with a ס ( samech). Why? It served their purposes. Right or wrong? Inappropriate and irrelevant question. They did it because they wanted to.
In any case, it is foolish to make fun or denigrate anyone who utilizes vernacular instead of sticking to the rules. The rules are not always operable, and different systems have different rules. I like rules, they help us understand each other. Breaking them may be annoying, but hardly a crime.
June 5, 2019 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1738660rationalParticipantThe great scholars of medieval Jewish history (Soloveitchik, Brody, Ta Shma, Berger, Emanuel, and others) are divided as to the origins of the Great and Holy Ashkenazic communities in the 10th and 11th centuries. The balance of opinion currently is that the origins were in Bavel and not Eretz Yisrael. The debate is a lively one, to say the least. Sources upon request.
rationalParticipantOnce again.
ציצת, ציציות
טלית, טליתות
That’s just the way it is. There are rules and there are exceptions to the rules.
Milhouse’s comment on the lack of gender to the word talit was very interesting and enlightening.
The Israeli אקדמיה ללשון grapples with these issues on a constant basisrationalParticipantthe plural of טלית is טליתות
rationalParticipantIt is difficult to change the vernacular, and as many said here, language is dynamic and ever-changing. Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable to say shabbosim and taleisim and shtusim.
That said, I suspect that even the “who cares” contingent here will correct the ba’al kore if he leins שבע שבתים תמימות תהיינה. So, sometimes it matters, and when it does, it matters alot.
One of the most amusing mistakes found in the mefarshim is on the first page of the standard Ritv”a Al Hashas found in every standard beis medrash and Jewish home of the learned. It says that the new edition has corrected all the טעותים from the older editions. I always laugh at that faux pas.
June 5, 2019 12:56 am at 12:56 am in reply to: Does a convert adopted by frum parents have a bashert? #1738284rationalParticipantWorrying about a “bashert” is pointless. If you believe that HKBH runs the world, then you can assume that He knows how to work these things out. Converts of any age or social status find a partner to build a bayis ne’eman and live normal frum lives. There are no issues here to be resolved.
June 3, 2019 11:15 am at 11:15 am in reply to: Bochurim/Girls calling to come for shabbos seudas on Friday afternoon!! #1737075rationalParticipantTo think that one’s personal “family mesorah” is the only legitimate set of customs is a terribly disturbing thought.
June 2, 2019 5:14 am at 5:14 am in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1736438rationalParticipantThere is an excellent book that came out two years ago called “Gedolim”. It selects many gedolim of the last two centuries from the chareidi world only and gives each a chapter. It is not hagiographic, rather it places each godol in the perspective of his time and surroundings, and discusses his hashkafa in Torah and Jewish society from an objective point of view. 28 Gedolim were selected to this “Hall of Fame”. Unfortunately for most of the readership here, it’s in Hebrew.
The editors are Benjamin Brown and Nissim Leon. They freely admit that the process of selection was close to impossible and that one may easily disagree with the chosen list. A terrific and enlightening book.rationalParticipantGoogle it in Hebrew
רבי נחמן שותקMay 14, 2019 7:24 am at 7:24 am in reply to: Did Rebbitzin Golden Pick Sponsor an Article Just to Troll? #1726748rationalParticipantIt is highly recommended that the writer of a book named as a quote from Tanach be able to read Hebrew.
מבטן שאול שועתי is not “Shaul” meaning “borrowed”, but rather it is “sh’ol”, meaning from the “depths”. Ouch. There is no dialect in which the oh or oi sound becomes an oo sound.
Sorry, can’t buy the book.
May 13, 2019 11:07 am at 11:07 am in reply to: Does Rav Chaim Kanievsky shlita prohibit men from shaving their beards? #1726016rationalParticipantRav Kaniefsky maintains that his views are halachah, that is obvious. However, he doesn’t pasken for the world, he paskens to the person or institutions (i.e., Degel Hatorah Knesset Members) who ask the question. When asked, he paskens.
If one decides to obey the Rav’s views without asking him for a personal psak, this is a very short list of some of the things he will do.
1. Stop using the internet
2. Stop using a smartphone
3. Stop shaving
4. Stop using electricity on shabbos in Israel, unless there is an independent generator providing power
5. Stop wearing short sleeved shirts
6. Stop reading any type of secular newspaper
7. Refrain from attaining any type of secular educationThe conclusion is that there are many Torah observant Jews in America who would do well not to view the Rav as the world’s only acceptable Posek.
rationalParticipantDear Long Island Yid
The answer to your question is simple. Someone realized that this is a big money maker.
The expenses are minimal and the potential income is huge.
People are looking for a quick fix to their tzaros (demand), and this project provides it (supply).
The supply fills the demand.
Business is business.rationalParticipantzchus זכות
schus in Hebrew is cartilage.rationalParticipantI’m sure the new Kaliver Rebbe will be a strong and holy force for his chassidim. He’s only 28 ? He’ll grow into the job, no one need worry. We should all support him.
rationalParticipantFor an Ashkenazi outside Israel, there is no way that kitniyot are permissible on the eighth day of Pesach, this year falling on Shabbat.
A better question is for Israelis for whom Shabbat is no longer Pesach, could they have cooked kitniyot on yomtov for a Shabbat meal (assuming eruv tavshilin) ?
Some did, most did not.As for erev pesach, kitniyot would be forbidden to eat after the sof zman achilat chametz
April 29, 2019 11:00 am at 11:00 am in reply to: “Acharon shel Pessach” – No other Yom Tov is called so, why is it called that? #1720185rationalParticipantHere in Israel, since both the first and the last day of Pesach is a yom tov (chag), the first day is often called “Rishon shel Pesach”, and the seventh and last day “Acharon shel Pesach”. Pesach has bookend yomim tovim, ימי מקרא קודש , first and last. Neither Shavuos nor Succos own this phenomenon. It’s quite rational.
I hope this clarifies it for you. If it does, you can put the negativity aside, it’s quite unbecoming.
rationalParticipantprobably not
April 28, 2019 7:57 am at 7:57 am in reply to: “Acharon shel Pessach” – No other Yom Tov is called so, why is it called that? #1719758rationalParticipantOnly Pesach has a yom tov on the last day, hence “acharon shel Pesach”. Neither Succos nor Shavuos has a last day that is a yom tov.
rationalParticipantNow that I am being accused of not being frum, I will kindly request that the following questions be answered. No rational or logical thinking allowed, please give the correct and obvious “frum” answer.
Example: Am I allowed to wear shatnez? Answer: No.1. A woman stopped nursing after six months and wishes to remarry. It is a leap year. Does she have to wait 18 more months or 19?
2. A man’s wife becomes psychotic and is institutionalized. May he marry another woman?
3. May photochromic spectacle lenses be worn outside the house on Shabbos?
4. A kohen who converted to Christianity and became a moser wishes to go to shul on yom tov and duchen. Should the kehillah allow it?
5. The local shochet for 20 years is rumored to have committed adultery. The accused woman is clearly pregnant. Can the shochet keep his job?Remember, just the obvious halachah, no logical thinking permitted.
As an aside, if you knew something about halachic history, using electricity on Shabbos would not have been included with shatnez and basar b’chalav. Until the Hazon Ish put his meta-halachic foot down, the poskim (yes, the frum ones) were ready to accept electricity as at worst a d’rabbonon and possibly even permit it. There was no halachic precedent and they had to use, um, rational thinking.
rationalParticipantIsraelis visiting chutz la’aretz should keep two full days.
I’m not sure why I am being suspected of hypocrisy.As for the attacks on me for using logic, woe is the Jew who learns Torah without using his brain.
April 17, 2019 10:19 am at 10:19 am in reply to: How much did you pay for your hand shmura matza? #1716581rationalParticipantI pay 80 shekel per kilo
In Bnei Brak prices go as high as 50 shekel PER MATZAH if baked erev pesach after chatzos hayom
Think that’s a high price? Well, it’s matzas mitzvah where one wants the best of the best. It’s not like just choosing a wife.I was not aware that olive wood can deliver an olivey taste to the matzah. I’ve been in Israel for decades, first time I’ve heard that and I’ve definitely never tasted a difference. Very interesting.
April 16, 2019 10:45 am at 10:45 am in reply to: Which mesivta should i send my 8th grade son to? #1715304rationalParticipantIf you are looking for something homey, keep him at home. If you are looking for a yeshiva, send him to the best. Afraid he’ll be homesick? Call him three times a day and that will make sure he will be. Otherwise, let him grow up. Your job is done, he’s ready to be a yeshiva bochur.
rationalParticipantAs I explicitly wrote, I am aware of the various shitos regarding keeping one or two days. One can “pull out” of the poskim any answer one wants, and there are heavyweights on both sides, as some of the above commenters have mentioned.
However, simple logic (surprise, the halachah and many poskim are logical) demands one day here in Israel, because here there IS only one day. All other factors are irrelevant.
I can logically accept a Brooklynite keeping two days here provided he didn’t adjust his clock upon arrival and is acting according to Brooklyn time, seven hours behind.
rationalParticipantKeeping one day yom tov in Israel is neither a kula nor a chumra. The fact is that in Israel there is only one day yom tov. Acting as if one is in Israel when one actually IS in Israel is simple logic and is neither lenient nor stringent.
And yes, I am fully aware of the various opinions, old and modern, in halachic literature. Sorry for being rational.
April 15, 2019 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm in reply to: Did YWN cave to pressure and remove a news item? #1715013rationalParticipantcave in to pressure
rationalParticipantOf course, it’s a no-brainer.
My Rosh yeshiva did it.April 9, 2019 9:10 am at 9:10 am in reply to: NEW TREND: Sending Your Kids To Mesivta In Lakewood That Do Not Have English #1711932rationalParticipantPerhaps studying English or even speaking the language is unnecessary. At least one percent of these people will make it big in real estate and will then announce that formal education is a waste of time. The other 99% will suffer in their illiterate and ignorant silence, too proud to admit they listened to fools, but still unable to pay the rent.
April 4, 2019 7:43 am at 7:43 am in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1709062rationalParticipantThe yeshivish world is an exercise in self-delusion.
Someone makes sure his teenage daughter’s friends remain separate and do not speak or look at the boys in the house, yet thinks this gives the boys “some idea of how girls are”. Self-delusion. The boys and girls should not “mix” (have an actual conversation?) “but we may need to do a better job educating our boys about how life is realistically. ” Good luck with that.
Blaming the shadchanim but constructing the system so that the shadchanim control it is self-delusional.
Telling the boys that the world continues to exist b’zchus their Torah learning, and allowing them to pick out the best physical specimen available as their eishes chayil is self-delusional.
April 4, 2019 7:40 am at 7:40 am in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1709040rationalParticipant“the importance of looks are vital and their are countless stories of the sad outcome one one ignores it.”
First, basic English requires “there” and not “their”.Second, I say with confidence that the sad outcomes are greater in number and severity when one marries for physical attraction rather than when one ignores it. I venture that anyone over 40 will corroborate this.
rationalParticipantStop the fake comments. We all know what an arranged marriage is.
In a closed society that requires this as part of their culture, why not? If it works for them, it works. If you’re in it and like it, good for you. If you don’t, find another culture that fits you. However, there’s nothing Jewish about this particular custom.April 3, 2019 9:14 am at 9:14 am in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1707719rationalParticipantA frum yeshiva boy is raised in a home infused with Torah and Yiras Shamayim. His Rebbes and yeshiva shelter him from the evils of the outside world. His mother would never allow the four walls to see her natural hair. His father wouldn’t think of allowing a secular newspaper in the house. He has little to no association or exposure to pritzus, no television, no movies or theater. Modern music is off limits. He listens intently to a musar shmuess weekly if not more often. His role models are gedolim, lamdanim, tzadikim.
And here I learn that when it comes to finding his bashert for the purpose of building a home of kedushah and taharah, all he really cares about is …….
The cheshbon nefesh required here defies quantification. Operating on this disease may kill the patient. Or, the charade will just continue. After all, almost everyone is doing it. But please, enough of the fake frumkeit, it doesn’t fly anymore
rationalParticipantIt doesn’t sound like you know what the company means when it uses the word “light”. Maybe it means less sugar and fewer calories. Or something else entirely. To jump to the conclusion that it means the addition of water is unsubstantiated and unfair.
To assume the watered-down theory and then slide seamlessly into what the poskim think about it is borderline deception.
March 28, 2019 11:59 am at 11:59 am in reply to: Any kosher ideas for boys and girls to hang out together = solve shiduch crisis? #1703517rationalParticipantPlacing unmarried men and women at the same table at a wedding is a terrific idea. I’m all in favor. Much good will come of it.
rationalParticipantDear Neville
What you said is interesting. Parsley in Hebrew is Petrozilia פטרוזיליה
The Aruch Hashulchan writes that karpas is petrozilia, “ואין אנו יודעים מה זה”Possibly Rav Ganzfried had it in Hungary and Rav Epstein did not have it (or even knew what it was) in Lithuania.
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