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  • in reply to: Subtitle log #1197742
    Randomex
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    Notasheep’s subtitle used to be “with a spleen,” a reference to the user “A Sheep without a Spleen.”

    in reply to: Subtitle log #1197741
    Randomex
    Member

    PAA:

    First post – excellent, thanks. (I’d seen that post, and really should have remembered it.)

    Second post – Regarding your first subtitle, I think that’s how subtitles were originally meant to work.

    Regarding your second subtitle, it was actually – very briefly –

    “Baki in all things ?????” before changing to your current one,

    which is most definitely not a typo, but was made in response to your assertions about genai in the thread you linked to.

    (That’s another one of those threads I haven’t gotten around to

    thoroughly reading and thoroughly responding to…)

    I found both the subtitle change and your response (which you linked here) hilarious.

    You can ask the mods and other posters for confirmation – it sounds like you didn’t see the interim subtitle.

    in reply to: Response to Lior #1036930
    Randomex
    Member

    Gavra:

    The p’shat given by PAA, which you say is similar to the one you favor, does not mean that certain people should not learn full-time (for at least some period of time), only that they should not learn in a certain way.

    No one really believes that the entire nation is meant to learn in

    kollel full-time while their wives work and/or somebody supports them, do they? If that is indeed the mindset of the system, then something is presumably wrong.

    in reply to: Modern music is bad #1039007
    Randomex
    Member

    I don’t have the time I would need to go through everything wrong with that booklet.

    in reply to: Creative writing – CR users in real life! #1067263
    Randomex
    Member

    Scared driver delight:

    I’ll talk to you later, b’li neder.

    PAA:

    But I'm glad by hovering shadow is keeping you on your toes.

    I await the day when you admit that it goes both ways… 🙂

    By the way, who was out of character?

    Let’s see, in chronological order (Oh, and no arguing about whether anything is in fact in character, please*):

    I want to perform an action which is obviously morally wrong,

    unless I can determine that it is assur al pi halacha.

    DaasYochid gives a wrong p’sak (*).

    DaasYochid is confrontational for no reason (*).

    You’re awesome (just kidding).

    You, as the author, are betrayed by your sesquipedalianism (see below), but this is in character and not part of the story.

    Unless Popa intends to pay for his drinking, and the context implies that he does not, he commits theft (*).

    (I don’t know DaMoshe.)

    I am jealous of Popa and “spend all my waking hours reading threads that predate me.” (I’m unsure about the “doing something

    just for attention” part.)

    The mod allows things to get out of hand without even realizing it.

    So that’s me, DaasYochid, Popa, and the mod. No, you can’t debate even the points that don’t have asterisks – those are just for when I thought you might need reminding of the rule.

    (I never got around to reading some of the posts in that thread,

    so I didn’t write up any response (maybe someday) [yes, I know I don’t always follow this policy], but look up the meaning of “counterpunch” before you use it again. {Also, that “cover” wasn’t a cover}.)

    in reply to: Totally Random Thread Title Just to Confuse PAA #1061345
    Randomex
    Member

    PAA:

    I commend you on the triplical impressive feat...

    “Triplical” is not (really) a word. Wiktionary has no entry for it and any instances of its use found on Google appear to be either in error or as a proper noun in some obscure historic context.

    “Triplicate,” if that is what you meant, would be incorrect in this instance – it does not refer to non-identical things or sets thereof.

    “Triple” would have been the right word, even if it

    isn’t sesquipedalian enough for your taste.

    Also, “triple” would correctly have been after “impressive,”

    not before.

    That is hardly an excuse. [Insert sarcasticon if desired.]

    Please explain your use of sarcasm here.

    in reply to: Perfect laugh #1036720
    Randomex
    Member

    Earlier I wrote:

    “The CR can’t win with you, eh?” with reference to SIDI’s having complained about the lack of funny threads and now about the “decline of real threads/topics.”

    EDIT:

    Though that sounded good, these two complaints may not be opposed:

    The decline of the “real” might refer to the general intelligence level of threads both funny and serious.

    Little Froggie:

    I assumed that the thread’s title was changed to “Perfect laugh” as a reference to your post. Was that not the case?

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154497
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    Well, I must admit defeat for the moment. Google doesn’t

    seem able to get your scent…

    in reply to: for moderators only #1036901
    Randomex
    Member

    Public notice: Posts have not been deleted. Letakein Girl was not posting on the second page of the thread, just making a minor error.

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154495
    Randomex
    Member

    Showjoe:

    I didn’t know until I tried clicking on your new name to see if I needed to add you to the “Changed usernames” thread. It was simple to notice that the last post from that account was a year old.

    btw my old account was with a "S" and my new is with a "s". my profile page the same

    I’m not sure what you mean. If it’s that your profile pages also differ in the matter of having a capital S or not,that’s true.

    Your profile addresses are essentially as follows, though:

    Old account: theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/showjoe

    New account: theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/sh0wj0e

    (Because YWN URLs are not case-sensitive, you don’t need to type a capital S to see the profile named “Showjoe,” even though that

    is how the link appears next to your old account’s posts.)

    in reply to: Totally Random Thread Title Just to Confuse PAA #1061344
    Randomex
    Member

    Hmmm…

    I think I’d better list all the names so far:

    1. Chofetz Chaim Yeshivos

    2. Learning Mussar

    3. Learning Mussar-the Chofetz Chaim way

    4. Totally Random Thread Title Just to Confuse PAA

    Just don’t go changing the title faster than I can see it, mods… 🙂

    in reply to: for moderators only #1036900
    Randomex
    Member

    Letakein Girl:

    Ah, I thought that might be it. At any rate, there certainly haven’t been 613 mods, just as there probably haven’t been 127 mods. I assume Mod-127 was named after the 127 years of the life of Sarah Imeinu and provinces of Achashveirosh’s kingdom, and as for 613…

    There may not even have been 42 mods – Mod-42 might well be named for the number’s significance in the “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” series, especially considering that his subtitle is a reference to the title of one of the books in the series.

    Mod-29 also appears to be a fan – see here.

    in reply to: Totally Random Thread Title Just to Confuse PAA #1061343
    Randomex
    Member

    DaasYochid: Look at the URL in your address bar. The “-1” is because

    there was already a thread with the same name.

    Or, if you mean the second thread title, it was “Learning Mussar.”

    Mod:

    Shouldn’t the new title be “…Yeshiva(s?) Chofetz Chaim way” ?

    PAA:

    While it would be technically accurate, it would be assumed that

    “better” without any qualification meant “better to the full extent possible.” Hence the common practice.

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037212
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    Sigh! Next time, use “myself” instead of “my self,” and I won’t be

    misled into thinking your entire self is being repeated, and you’re repeating the phrase to call attention to your specific phrasing.

    Also: (ps what was your s/n back then? Sh..)

    I didn’t have one. This is my first, and so far only, username.

    in reply to: Lollipops #1039701
    Randomex
    Member

    Popa-esque. Abba-esque.

    in reply to: for moderators only #1036898
    Randomex
    Member

    Letakein Girl:

    Why me?

    Actually, I’m not sure he was real – his name isn’t formatted the same way the others’ are, and I can’t find his profile.

    However, impersonating a mod is against the rules and probably

    wouldn’t have been tolerated.

    in reply to: Can't escape who you are….:) #1036779
    Randomex
    Member

    I think I’ll spew what my brain is worth:

    $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

    or so.

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154492
    Randomex
    Member

    I wrote earlier:

    “The answer to part of your question about names is that to begin with, the URL and displayed name are the same, so unless the displayed name is changed twice, no record is needed.”

    EDIT:

    For the mods, anyway – I assume they can see your profile URL. For normal users, the profile URL linked to next to your posts will usually be the same as your current name.

    This is why my “Changed usernames” thread exists, though it won’t help if a name is changed another time after it is recorded there, and it works only through the efforts of volunteers…

    Little Froggie:

    Do you modify your own screen names? I see “New Kid On The Block” turned into – well, I can’t post it, can I – and someone has to have modified your current username.

    I could see the mods doing this one to identify you for others, but you mentioned repeating “your self”).

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037210
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    By repeating “your self,” you do mean that your current screen name

    is the same as your last account’s was, right?

    in reply to: Ever seen a forest animal die of old age #1042742
    Randomex
    Member

    Yes, yes, I know… That last one took two weeks – give me some time! (Just kidding.)

    in reply to: How many hours of sleep do you get in one night? #1036701
    Randomex
    Member

    These days? Zero, usually.

    Sam2:

    If it’s too few on an average night, why is fewer better, as is implied by “On a good night?”

    Or rather, what’s making those good nights good?

    in reply to: Perfect laugh #1036717
    Randomex
    Member

    SIDI:

    The CR can’t win with you, eh?

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-happened-to-the-funny-side

    Little Froggie:

    It seems the mods liked your post. 🙂

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037209
    Randomex
    Member

    PAA:

    Yes, the deletion of that post was quite convenient for me. 🙂

    in reply to: for moderators only #1036895
    Randomex
    Member

    Bumpius humorus! (First and fourth posts.)

    (I found this Googling [nuclear zeeskite]. No, you can’t ask…)

    in reply to: Good usernames #1065377
    Randomex
    Member

    cozimjewish and streekgeek:

    coz im such a complicated person. im like art;)
    really cuz my teacher said i should publish a book
    called The Art Of ( my name).
    i like that teacher:)

    This could mean either that her initials are M.O.I., or (and I prefer this one), that “moi” is being used as the French word for “me,” thus “The-Art-of-Me.”

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154490
    Randomex
    Member

    Okay, that last one was post #6, except that it used to include my idea, which was rather more dramatic (and possibly illegal).

    Wow, 6/6! I guess I’ve learned where the lines are (mostly).

    in reply to: Can't escape who you are….:) #1036775
    Randomex
    Member

    Streekgeek:

    That’s quite understandable. For people who are socially

    awkward, online forums can be a great way to interact

    (though I don’t think it helps their real-life skills improve).

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037206
    Randomex
    Member

    Here’s a hint for them, Little Froggie:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-happened-to-the-funny-side

    Or did you mean the part about being sorry for

    repeating “your self”? I understand that one.

    EDIT: Oops! This time I posted in the wrong thread – partially, anyway. That hint doesn’t apply to this thread – it would apply to the thread Little Froggie also posted in the wrong thread about.

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154489
    Randomex
    Member

    If you really want to know more about the mods’ side of things, my brother’s idea is to create your own moderated WordPress>bbPress forum.

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154488
    Randomex
    Member

    The reason my last five posts aren’t together is that I wasn’t sure if they’d be approved. In fact, post #6 was blocked.

    in reply to: Subtitle log #1197737
    Randomex
    Member

    (To be precise writersoul’s old subtitle was “posters heart”.)

    Patur Aval Assur’s subtitle used to be “Bar Me’hanei T’las” – does

    anyone know if that’s a reference to a specific statement?

    (His username means “not obligated* [to be punished], but forbidden,” while that subtitle means “except these three.”)

    *Does anyone have a better translation of “patur,” especially in this context?

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154486
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    I’ve realized that your “Oh…” might have been just to make it look like your posting in the “wrong” thread was intentional, but

    you might actually have posted here instead of in that thread so that at least some people wouldn’t know what you were talking about. That you haven’t also posted it in that thread makes me think you were trying to keep it private (or maybe you just specifically wanted me to know for some odd reason – such as the interest I’ve expressed in the subject in the past).

    Speaking of which, I am aware of all the identities you gave initials for in a certain post, but I don’t know who the “etc.” was for. Will you give me those initials too?

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154485
    Randomex
    Member

    cozimjewish:

    What's the matter, Randomex? Aren't we on speaking terms anymore?

    Sigh… It’s time for another “make people look stupid” post:

    “the mods block virtually all posts … Maybe they’ll let you answer cozimjewish’s question here

    It should have been obvious that I had tried to answer, but my

    post had not been approved. I’ll try again now – Those are two

    separate accounts, though as far as I know they belonged to the

    same person.

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154484
    Randomex
    Member

    So, mod, will you admit that sometimes you (or rather the other mod/s) change posts instead of completely rejecting them?

    I wish that would happen to mine more often…

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154483
    Randomex
    Member

    Showjoe:

    Your request has been granted, but your name now links to your old account, which had that name as well. I’ve made a note of that (or at least attempted to) in the “changed usernames” thread so people can still keep track of you in your current account.

    in reply to: Changed usernames #1214702
    Randomex
    Member

    Current: DaasYochid – apparently originally [Daas-Yochid] (with a space). (An empty “DaasYochid” profile exists – it maght have been made by somebody who tried to mimic people’s usernames a couple of years ago.)

    Current: “showjoe” – originally “sh0wj0e”

    (There is a [different] profile at showjoe, probably an old account of his.)

    Streekgeek:

    Thanks! (I hadn’t realized Oomis had been here so long!)

    HaLeiVi:

    Unless the mods were mistaken, you forgot one. (I think I need permission from you before the mods will let me post it.)

    Anyway, this isn’t about users who’ve changed accounts – it’s about screennames that don’t match their profile URLs. Yours is linked to the correct URL anyway – I assume that’s because your old “HaLeiVi” account was already occupying that URL.

    Glad to have you, though! 🙂

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154482
    Randomex
    Member

    Here’s another edited post:

    http://theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/seminary-picks#post-537573

    This post appears to disprove my theory that 29 and 100 are the same person (it could be just to maintain the illusion, but it would be going a bit far).

    SDD:

    In your original post, “147” is mentioned as a mod. Actually, she’s just an ordinary user, and there’s no profile for a Mod-147.

    Little Froggie:

    The answer to part of your question about names is that to begin with, the URL and displayed name are the same, so unless the displayed name is changed twice, no record is needed.

    As for “42,” that being “the answer” is a reference to a series (originally) of books called The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

    in reply to: Mistaken Lyrics #1087805
    Randomex
    Member

    “Exterminate – Famine and flu

    Captivity – Destruction too”

    In a list with famine, captivity, and destruction,

    doesn’t flu look out a little of place? 🙂

    There’s a term for that: “Arson, murder, and jaywalking.”

    cozimjewish:

    Why did you think I was “a he”?

    in reply to: Old Time Fun… #1110578
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    I meant her username, not her personal name!

    Or do you mean even that?

    in reply to: Behind the scenes…MODS #1154469
    Randomex
    Member

    PAA: I’m sorry, what are you talking about? (Just kidding.)

    Little Froggie:

    1)

    I assume “Oh…” was your edited-in realization that you’d put your post up in the wrong thread? You could’ve changed the post

    to a request that it be removed and then posted it again in the right thread.

    2)

    Listen, I’ve known that for a long time, but the mods block virtually all posts about your former identities! I was trying to think of a way to tell you so in that thread that they would allow. Maybe they’ll let you answer cozimjewish’s question here (tell her I sent you):

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/just-testing-the-various-allowed-markups#post-538884

    in reply to: Old Time Fun… #1110575
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    Who’s the poster you’re talking about?

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037201
    Randomex
    Member

    Little Froggie:

    You’ve used that pun before.

    11 months ago:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/three-chairs-for-the-mods#post-496647

    10 months ago:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/random-facts-1#post-502679

    9 months ago:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/open-letter-to-hellena-winston#post-506059

    Eftachbchinor:

    Oh, you meant the shaychus to “banned,” not to you. Hey, you’ve told me almost the same thing before, too!

    #1 on your shidduch list

    Looks like I don’t have trouble keeping CR members straight. 🙂

    in reply to: PAA's not-always-in-context Coffee Room Report Card Comments #1156583
    Randomex
    Member

    You’re either proclaiming real arrogance or remaining in-character, right? Or is there a third interpretation?

    in reply to: Response to Lior #1036928
    Randomex
    Member

    Gavra at work:

    Of course it doesn't, and that is not what I said. Straw Man.

    Not on purpose. Here’s the quote again, with some context. I think you should be able to see how I’d make that mistake.

    However, in our times, it is promoted by Yeshivos & Sems that everyone should be in Kollel (not just those who really want it). That means support from parents, grandparents and others, raised tuition/Chessed requirements on everyone (due to those who choose to take the easy way out and are not learning 12-14 hours a day) as JFem points out, as well as (partially) an understanding of the costs of poverty on the children of the Kollel system (which is not their choice or fault). This forces/guilts others into supporting them.

    To quote the Gemorah in Chaggigah (5B):

    ??? ???? ???? ???”? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????

    in reply to: Ever seen a forest animal die of old age #1042738
    Randomex
    Member

    New responses (20. Randomex:)

    Re: 5

    It is true that one cannot be thankful for not doing

    something one has done. However, being thankful that

    you have not killed animals, although you have killed insects, indicates that you see killing animals as worse than killing insects, for if they are of equal importance, you have no cause to be thankful. By this reasoning, Joseph’s question is valid.

    (If we were to consider killing animals and insects to be separate offenses, even if of equal importance, one could be thankful for not having killed any of the one even if one has killed some of the other. Compare doing multiple toldos of the same av versus toldos of multiple avos in hilchos Shabbos. But why would we? Until we have compelling reason, Joseph doesn’t have to hold of this distinction.)

    Re: 14

    True in theory. But there is no system of checks and balances in the Coffee Room.

    Facetious.

    That would just make it that there are three levels - non-depressing, depressing, and extremely depressing.

    Very well – replace

    “Here’s a reasonable assumption – Writersoul finds all

    roadkill depressing”

    with

    “Here’s a reasonable assumption – Writersoul finds all

    roadkill extremely depressing.”

    There, that’s better.

    You are just adding another kashya on Chuvim's question.

    You interpreted Writersoul’s statement as though it had been written with a precision of language not expected (of a seminary girl) in an online forum post, and proclaimed Joseph’s question “all the more baseless” on the basis of your interpretation (perhaps facetiously).

    I offered a different explanation of Writersoul’s statement and why Joseph’s question was baseless not in addition to yours, but to replace it (though we agreed that Writersoul’s issue with roadkill was that it is depressing).

    Side note:

    Seemingly, it turns out that Writersoul doesn’t distinguish between any kinds of roadkill, nor between killing animals and killing insects, but is thankful because “causing roadkill is actually dangerous and potentially expensive.”

    In order to adequately answer that all I have to do is
    provide a possibility.

    A plausible possibility, if you want the answer to be

    accepted.

    Re: 18

    So the question is can someone presume a theory to be false because to him it is obviously false? Well I think it depends on the person's status and the subject matter of the theory. I am alleging that Randomex is not of the caliber to presume my (perfectly reasonable) theory to be false.

    I think this is facetious, but I’ll respond to it anyway.

    In this case, my status is “Mayor of Coffeetown”, and the subject matter is a Coffee Room post. I rest my case.

    (Also, your “perfectly reasonable theory” hinges on an abuse of power by a mod, runs contrary to your own answer to Joseph {"there is no reason to start talking about insects just for the sake of expressing thankfulness"}, and was not borne out by the facts ["of course I've stepped on bugs"].)

    Re: 12/19

    The “original question” is that of the thread title,

    “[Have you e]ver seen a forest animal die of old age[?]”

    And your answer is that a Medrash says the death of humans is like that of animals, so in this sense humans are animals. Therefore, if you’ve seen a person die, you’ve seen an animal die.

    But there are two problems here:

    1) Assuming humans are animals, they’re not forest

    animals.

    [This also applies to your assertion that you “provided Torah sources”.]

    2) The question is if you’ve ever seen such a death, and

    you have not told us that (unless we’re meant to assume it). After all, wouldn’t a peaceful human death of old age be likely to go unobserved?

    in reply to: Ever seen a forest animal die of old age #1042737
    Randomex
    Member

    RECAP (this has gotten complicated):

    1. Writersoul:

    I do see a lot of extremely depressing roadkill, though; baruch Hashem though I’ve yet to have caused one myself.

    2. Joseph [as chuvim]:

    Why do you assume stepping on a bug isn’t as bad as running over a bird or skunk?

    3. PAA:

    I don’t see th[at] assumption anywhere in this thread.

    4. Randomex:

    Joseph was referring to Writersoul’s statement that she herself has not caused any roadkill – he assumes she has stepped on insects (sounds reasonable to me).

    5. PAA:

    As you point out that is an assumption. But let’s grant the assumption. I still don’t see how being thankful that you haven’t killed any larger animals, indicates that it is worse than killing insects. You can’t be thankful for not killing insects if you have in fact killed insects. Hence my objection.

    If anything chuvim (Joseph)’s question would have been closer to being a valid question if writersoul HADN”T ever killed an insect – then at least there is a possible implication that it’s worse to kill animals, from the fact that writersoul is thankful that she has never killed any but did not express thankfullness that she hasn’t killed insects. Though it still wouldn’t be such a

    good question because you can simply answer that the topic being discussed here is animals, so there is no reason to start talking about insects just for the sake of expressing thankfulness.

    6. PAA:

    Also, maybe the statement of thankfulness for not killing insects is what got edited.

    7. Lior:

    What would’ve been so objectionable about saying that to have been edited out?

    8. PAA:

    Maybe the Moderator feels that it is in fact worse to kill animals than to kill insects and allowing the post would have equated the two so he had no choice but to edit it.

    9. PAA:

    Also, a careful reading of the post shows that writersoul may actually have killed animals as well: The statement “I’ve yet to have caused one myself” is referring back to the statement of “I do see a lot of extremely depressing roadkill” so all it means is that writersoul never caused a DEPRESSING roadkill. If that is the case then the thankfulness is not for not killing animals;

    it’s for not killing them in a depressing way which obviously doesn’t apply to insects which are never killed in a depressing way. So chuvim (Joseph)’s question is all the more baseless.

    10. Randomex:

    One wonders what Writersoul could possibly have had in that post that needed to be edited out. I guess we’ll never know.

    11. PAA:

    "One wonders what Writersoul could possibly have had in that post that needed to be edited out. I guess we'll never know."

    I thought I answered that already.

    12. PAA:

    To answer the original question, the Gemara in Chagigah (16a) says:

    ??? ????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ?????… ???? ?????

    ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???????? ??? ?????

    The Iyun Yaakov quotes a Medrash in Bereishis Rabbah which has a fourth similarity to animals – humans die like animals. He therefore asks why the Gemara doesn’t list it. He answers: ????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??? ???”? ?????? ???? ???? ?”? ???? ????? ??? ?”? ??? ??”?

    13. Randomex:

    Maybe the Moderator feels that it is in fact worse to kill animals than to kill insects and allowing the post would have equated the two so he had no choice but to edit it.

    Mods aren’t allowed to block things just because they disagree with them.

    Also, a careful reading of the post shows that writersoul may actually have killed animals as well: The statement "I've yet to have caused one myself" is referring back to the statement of "I do see a lot of extremely depressing roadkill" so all it means is that writersoul never caused a DEPRESSING roadkill.

    Here’s a reasonable assumption – Writersoul finds all

    roadkill depressing, and “extremely depressing” was meant to express a feeling about “roadkill,” not to modify (and thus limit) it, whether that is correct usage or not.

    If that is the case then the thankfulness is not for not killing animals; it's for not killing them in a depressing way which obviously doesn't apply to insects which are never killed in a depressing way. So chuvim (Joseph)'s question is all the more baseless.

    Chuvim’s question assumes (“as bad as”) that Writersoul believes there is something bad about running over a bird or skunk. This appears to be baseless. It is understandable that Writersoul’s feeling about roadkill is that it is depressing, and it can be assumed that she does not feel this way about insects (as demonstrated by your assumption that this non-feeling is

    universal – “insects which are never killed in a depressing way”).

    I thought I answered that already. [What was edited out of Ws's post]

    No, you theorized, and that theory can be presumed false.

    14. PAA:

    "Mods aren't allowed to block things just because they disagree with them."

    True in theory. But there is no system of checks and balances in the Coffee Room.

    "Here's a reasonable assumption - Writersoul finds all
    roadkill depressing, and "extremely depressing" was meant to express a feeling about "roadkill," not to modify (and thus limit) it, whether that is correct usage or not."

    That would just make it that there are three levels – non-depressing, depressing, and extremely depressing.

    "Chuvim's question assumes ("as bad as") that Writersoul believes there is something bad about running over a bird or skunk. This appears to be baseless. It is understandable that Writersoul's feeling about roadkill is that it is depressing, and it can be assumed that she does not feel this way about
    insects (as demonstrated by your assumption that this non-feeling is universal - "insects which are never killed in a depressing way")."

    You are just adding another kashya on Chuvim’s question.

    "No, you theorized, and that theory can be presumed false."

    First of all, since when can theories be presumed false? Second of all, you said “One wonders what Writersoul could POSSIBLY [emphasis mine] have had in that post that needed to be edited out.” In order to adequately answer that all I have to do is provide a possibility.

    15. RebYidd23:

    Theories can be presumed false when they are obviously false.

    16. PAA:

    1) Why was my theory obviously false?

    2) If it’s obviously false you wouldn’t need to PRESUME it false.

    17. RebYidd23:

    1) I didn’t say your theory was false.

    2) Because the person to whom it is obvious can still be wrong.

    18. PAA:

    So the question is can someone presume a theory to be false because to him it is obviously false? Well I think it depends on the person’s status and the subject matter of the theory. I am alleging that Randomex is not of the caliber to presume my (perfectly reasonable) theory to be false.

    19. PAA:

    So for anyone who still cares, the ORIGINAL QUESTION was: “Ever seen a forest animal die of old age”

    Which I answered:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ever-seen-a-forest-animal-die-of-old-age#post-537335

    in reply to: Ever seen a forest animal die of old age #1042736
    Randomex
    Member

    RebYidd23:

    Thanks for this:

    Theories can be presumed false when they are obviously false.

    Richashu:

    [T]his has devolved into some sideshow rhetoric debate.
    Instead of Coffee Room, they should just call this
    chat room "knitpicking room."

    😉 That’s “nitpick,” derived from picking nits out of hair. And this is a “forum” or “message board,” not a chat room. 😉

    As for the issue… LOL! Actually, it’s just us.

    After our first clash, someone made a thread just for us to post in instead of taking up space in the original thread… not that we used it.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/for-paa-and-randomex-to-jokingly-argue-about-reading-all-cr-threads-and-post-or-something-like-that

    PAA:

    See below (the post after the recap post).

    in reply to: Can't escape who you are….:) #1036769
    Randomex
    Member

    eftachbchinor:

    LF: My little amphibian friend, your name is from the greek word "amphi-bios", meaning "double life".

    ? ? Pam-pah-dah-dam! Captain Obvious!? ?

    “Little Froggie” does not come from “amphi-bios.”

    If you know your CR history, though… 🙂

    cozimjewish

    randomex is really really helpful

    Or maybe just likes to show off knowledge.

    in reply to: Whats my problem I can't keep CR members straight? #1037199
    Randomex
    Member

    eftachbchinor:

    Sh0wj0e and Randomex- Not that long.

    His long was about you being a member (he couldn’t check, I assume, because he doesn’t know your original username), while mine was

    about how long people have been wondering who Joseph is.

    shaychis kinor?

    It’s in your name!

    in reply to: Coolest Mod #1036081
    Randomex
    Member

    Mod-100, that was a joke!

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