(This is probably the the only time I’ll appear in this thread – I don’t believe in ad hominem attacks.)

“The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur”

?????????? ?????? ????

LOL! For anyone who doesn’t understand, that last line is Aramaic for, essentially, “Have you finished all the praise?”

In the original context, (Brachos 33b*) a man who had added on to the standard formula of ??? ????? ????? ?????? at the beginning of Shmoneh Esrei is being questioned rhetorically if his additions had exhausted Hashem’s praises (i.e. seeing as this cannot be done, one should refrain from any such additions).

In this context, PAA questions, as if out of arrogance, why

cozimjewish did not give him more titles. The humor derives from

both the in-context meaning and what it references.

*I was only familiar with Megilla 25a, but that was enough to get the joke, and I found the version with ?????? on the Hebrew Wikisource.

Note:

I’m a frum Jew, and no liberal. But please read every Wikipedia page you can find on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and then ask yourself if “supporting Israel” actually means agreeing with whatever they have done or will do, combined with not acknowledging as valid any claims made by the other side.

No, I don’t have a solution, and I’m just going to leave things to Hashem. It’s not like I could make a difference in the matter anyway…

Akuperma

an internationally recognized Palestinian state would be claim the whole of the former British mandate, and thereby setting up the possibility of the United Nations calling for an international peacekeepking force to remove the zionists from Eretz Yisrael, etc.

I don’t think so. It is not possible that millions of Israelis would end up in the same boat as the Arabs did when Israel took the West Bank from Jordan.

Facts on the ground – i.e. the presence of the Jews/Israelis – must be dealt with, and no one could argue that they should live under Palestinian rule.

Unless it is accompanied by the Palestinians giving claims on Israel

Ah, solution. So what’s the issue? You don’t trust that Israel would demand that?

benignuman:

I do believe, however, that once the Palestinians have their own state it is likely that they will eventually use it to launch a war against Israel, requiring Israel to reinvade and restarting the whole conflict again.

Were that to happen, though, they’d be giving up on any image of being peace-seekers, and no one could object to Israel ever again unless they committed actual war crimes.

notasheep:

A two-state solution would not solve anything since they are not interested in having one. They just don't want Israel to exist at all.

If only there was some way to prove that this is why the peace negotiations never work out… Also, you might be conflating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

with the Israeli-Arab conflict.

The Goq™:

We gave them autonomy in Gaza and that worked out well right?

More so than in the West Bank or wherever the Palestinian Authority is?

Autonomy is not statehood.

Avi K:

I am not opposed to giving them a state. Just far away from Eretz Yisrael. Another possibility is an international fund to pay them to emigrate to countries that need moneyed immigrants.

Why should they agree to leave? And where are you going to get the land from?

Or, where will the money come from, and what does “moneyed immigrants” mean?

scared driver delight:

Before Israel entered the West Bank in 1967, there was no state or government there. Is it worse for the Arabs now than from when there was no state altogether?

This is ignorance and simply not true.

Read Wikipedia’s “Jordanian occupation of the West Bank” article.

cozimjewish:

why is my post before the OP now????

And that post, too! The “-1 years” glitch strikes again.

eftachbchinor:

I was just thinking about how no matter what, we can't drop our personalities just cuz we're anonymous.

Why would being anonymous allow us to “drop our personalities?”

On the contrary, as your second post says, our personalities may well come out most when we’re anonymous, and it’s in real life that we may suppress our personalities! So why does “real life” deserve that name anyway? 🙂

Actually, online, someone can choose to project a certain identity if they want to, just for fun, in a way which might not be quite as feasible in real life. Just saying. 🙂

Eftach:

LOL! It’s funny that this has been going on so long…

3 years ago, there were already threads asking about Joseph!

Well, it’s pretty much like Sh0wj0e said, except I’m not sure if he was banned for his use of multiple accounts or if that

came later. I’ll just add that Joseph represents the far right of

(semi-?)mainstream Judaism, and his last known sighting (AFAIK):

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ever-seen-a-forest-animal-die-of-old-age#post-536836

Also, no one knows how the mods know if a poster is Joseph.

cozimjewish:

Seeing as it wasn’t you I was quoting, I didn’t mean to say that you were a Coffee Room addict. And, of course, you’re right about the “almost.” Looks like I’ve really got to read more carefully…

I’m just curious why people like pba and other ultra coffee room addicts here can afford to be here so much of their life? what do you do for a life? answer threads all day?

Well, for all we know, Popa could be on YWN’s payroll.

I don’t have much of a life…

always runs with scissors fast:

yes its been almost 3 years since I that post that broke the camel’s back and led to my divorce. Remember? I still and always will appreciate everyone’s support and helpful advice.

cozimjewish:

ARWSF,

I found that thread just yesterday! I was wondering what happened in the end. So happy to hear things are ok now.

LG, That is so interesting because I also found it yesterday!

I’m pretty sure those last two posts are by “ultra coffee room addicts.” 🙂

Actually, it’s been less than 3 years, according to the time-stamp.

You, joker bar daddy, are not funny. We know who you are. Would you like if we posted your name?

Was that a threat, or just random? (I see he’s blocked – I approve.)

What would give you guys the right to post someone’s name, troll or not? (How would you know it, anyway?)

Or did you mean his/her primary username?

It was not meant as a threat. I would not have publicly outed him.

(Without addressing specific discussions…)

Well, that escalated quickly. I think this is the fastest-growing topic in my time on the CR so far. What does this say about us? 🙂

Interesting to see someone bring up Eliezer Yudkowsky’s “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.” You beat me to it, yekke2.

(The author is in fact an OTD Jew, in case anyone was curious. He’s an interesting chevraman – quote: “If you don’t sign up your kids for cryonics then you are a lousy parent.” What on earth is that, you ask? “Cryonics is the practice of preserving people who are dying in liquid nitrogen soon after their heart stops. The idea is that most of your brain’s information content is still intact right after you’ve ‘died’. If humans invent molecular nanotechnology or brain emulation techniques, it may be possible to reconstruct the consciousness of cryopreserved patients.”

Meanwhile, he’s a research fellow at an artificial intelligence foundation. And, of course, he writes fan fiction.)

how funny is that?

[Makes serious face] Not funny enough to justify the bump.

? ? Pam-pah-dah-dam! Captain Obvious!? ?

Grape juice is quite high in sugar, which is not known to make people sleepy (oh, wait, there’s Lior… I don’t know).

Can anyone tell me whether liquids generally have a

more potent effect when foamy?

The deletion of my last post is very telling

All it tells you is that we are not interested in the ensuing discussion of that topic. – 29

Note to self: Mods may delete posts that will start

discussions that do not interest them.

29 did not mean lack of personal interest of the moderators. “Not interested” means we do not think it should be discussed in a public forum, at least not this one. -100

I’m not supposed to be here…

But that second one was Googleable. 🙂

It’s “One Day At a Time” by Shloime Dachs.

(You could have meant that I shouldn’t Google them, but that’s

unlikely given that the others have this page as the only result.)

The second one is “I Want to Know” by the Miami Boys Choir.

(It was Googleable.)

GG Yekke – point!

HaLeiVi:

Oomis, since they are Mechuyav to fast they obviously must eat, but the question here is about the specific mitzva of eating which is different from the need to eat Erev Tisha B'av. This is a Mitzva which happens to coincide with the need.

Now, let’s look back at what Oomis wrote:

If women have a chiyuv to FAST, then they should also have a chiyuv to EAT. I don’t see a chiluk here. (emphasis added)

HaLeiVi again:

I would say that if it is an Asmachta that would be reason tip apply to Nashim as well. Derabanans don't necessarily have the exemption of Zman Grama, at least not when the reasoning applies to Nashim as well.

Rabi Akiva Eiger:

[????’ ??”? ?”? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ??’ ???? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????]

Rule of 3:

And Succah is for ?????? ??????. does that make it a Chiyuv for Nashim? ?? ?? ??? ????? ???.

If that’s in response to this

1)Since you cant do vesomachtoh v’chagecho on yom kippur we do it on ever yom kippur. […]

the ksav sofer says l’fi r’yonas reasons, women are chiyuv.

you’re arguing with the K’sav Sofer.

Screwdriver:

The punishment can be mine or Popa’s. I could be saying that I came on for a specific reason, but one thing led to another, or that I had a valid reason to be on now, as opposed to him. Only one of these really makes sense, though – can you figure it out?

Yes and yes. 🙂 Good job.

Can you post it, or will it not be approved even now? (Maybe in another thread, so it doesn’t have whatever context is an issue? I haven’t read this thread, I just followed one of your links here.)

Gol, if one person didn’t see another one for 38 years, what does that tell you about that person and the Internet?

Which, according to R' Akiva Eiger's Hava Amina, makes a fascinating Chiluk between single and married women repeating Bentsching on Yom Tov is they forget Ya'aleh V'yavo.

Explanation please, or at least a hebrewbooks link? I don’t have a copy at home, and getting hold of one presents an… issue.

(Sorry to repeat myself…)

I’m not sure I made myself clear – I mean writing out such things as Adoi…, Eloi…, etc., not G-d, L-rd (etc). Is that what you were talking about, DaasYochid?

PAA:

1) I assumed “ORIGINAL QUESTION” referred to something significant from any perspective.

2) I made my three posts in a row without reading everything up to that point, so there were actually more than eleven unread posts.

Let’s go!

Maybe the Moderator feels that it is in fact worse to kill animals than to kill insects and allowing the post would have equated the two so he had no choice but to edit it.

Mods aren’t allowed to block things just because they disagree with them.

Also, a careful reading of the post shows that writersoul may actually have killed animals as well: The statement "I've yet to have caused one myself" is referring back to the statement of "I do see a lot of extremely depressing roadkill" so all it means is that writersoul never caused a DEPRESSING roadkill.

Here’s a reasonable assumption – Writersoul finds all

roadkill depressing, and “extremely depressing” was meant to express a feeling about “roadkill,” not to modify (and thus limit) it, whether that is correct usage or not.

If that is the case then the thankfulness is not for not killing animals; it's for not killing them in a depressing way which obviously doesn't apply to insects which are never killed in a depressing way. So chuvim (Joseph)'s question is all the more baseless.

Chuvim’s question assumes (“as bad as”) that Writersoul believes there is something bad about running over a bird or skunk. This appears to be baseless. It is understandable that Writersoul’s feeling about roadkill is that it is depressing, and it can be assumed that she does not feel this way about insects (as demonstrated by your assumption that this non-feeling is universal – “insects which are never killed in a depressing way”).

I thought I answered that already. [What was edited out of Ws’s post]

No, you theorized, and that theory can be presumed false.

(edited)

My father:

I eat a honeydew, so that my wife will listen to me, and I’m makpid not to eat eggshells, so I won’t have to shell out.