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great question-HaLeiv-_ people assume that he lived in Eretz Yisroel for many years..which is incorrect. I don’t know the exact amount but I think it amounts to months,rather than years….
popa-well,sorry to say but i never heard of your minhag. i am not a litvak……if you look in the shaarey tsion (seif koton 12)I see that it is from the gro ,so obviously, if you follow the gro, as a litvak, you may not cut hair in the evening before .I wonder, however, if music should fall under the same chumro,as it was not in the original minhag (see mishne berurah, seif koton 2)
popa- you are quoting the remo, in the name of the maharil, that on cuts one’s hair only in the morning-but the mishne berura brings acharonim that allow it on the eve of lag baomer too. I don’t know what you hold but I have been at chasunos on the even of lag baomer- taking this shittah as dominant. as far as music, it is a chumro that does not appear in the original minhag, so, “hovu delo nosif alo”,especially as it is motzei shabbos and everyone has already entered the day of lag baomer on friday!
poppa_bar-abba- I don’t undersatnd you at all. Why can’t you hear music till the morning???? You can even cut your hair on friday, why do you have to wait till the morning? i have never heard of that~
huydo lashem: since when do piskei halocho that are lekuloh a ‘loophole”? If you are allowed to listen to certain music, then it is the halocho. You are welcome to have your minhag-allow others their minhag. BTW- this is not a de’oraisai- not even a de’rabbonon- it is a minhag hageonim.
sorry to contradict ‘sthicky guy” on his understanding of hallel pessach night. Please check shulchan aruch orach chaim,siman “tof pei zayin” (487) se’if “arbah” (four). the mechaber paskens that we do say hallen (with a brocho) both nights ( minhag hasfardim,obviously). On that, the remo writes : ” Vechol zeh, ein onu nohagim kein, ki ein onu omrim balailoh be-bais haknesset ha-hallel klal” – translation; ” we (the ashkenazim)do not have that custom ,as we do not say hallel at all in shul that night”.
Clearly, minhag ashkenaz is NOT to say hallel at night. The sefardim and- importantly- minhag Ho-ari is to say hallel (see Be’er heitev). This is why the Hassidim say it.
Whether there is a minhag “lo lifrosh min hatsibbur’ -not to stray from the people’s minyan- , I do not know. That said, the remarks of that very ungracious gentleman was clearly wrong and stupid.
You cannot shop on the days of ‘sfiras ha-omer’??? never heard that one before.
daas Yochid- a quick reply before shabbos. The problem with consensual relations between unmarried partners rests upon the concept (gemoro) ” ein odom osse be’ilusoi bias zenus”. meaning that the man does not engage in it with the intention of consciously making an aveirah. Hence, it may be have the purpose of “kiddushin”
You are right, however, that today, “be-avonoisainu horabim” this gemoro would not be relevant as many people do ,indeed, make their relationship “bias zenus” and have absolutely no intention of “kiddushin”. I think that R’Moshe zz’l discusses this in some of his teshuvos, because it already was an issue many yeras ago.
Interesting thread. I think that most families have a separate pot for cooking fish, whether to keep it pareve or because of the sakkanah concept. However, I have never seen anyone be “makpid’ on plates being only for fish or meat, or even the cutlery. Clearly, at that time, it is not “jad soledes bo’ and there would be no “bliyos” Obviously, to have fish and meat on the same plate at the same time does bring into play the possibility of ‘sakkanah’, because it is “mamoshus”- actual fish and meat, not just the possible “beliy-os”
daas yochid- thanks for your clarifications. Raphael kaufman,however, does not say anything about “the absolute worse” situaiton, meaning an actual relationship. OBVIOUSLY- in such a dire case, what you are writing is correct- and with an unmarried woman, there may be a ‘safeq’ kiddushin (kiddushie biah). He seems to say that just because of “yichud’ these results may occur. Read his post again- this is very clearly how I read it and this is why it seemed to me to be an extraordinary statement. By the way, if the relationship is “bemeizid” (consensual) then she can become ossur on her husband, regardless whether the husband is a kohen or a Yisroel.
raphael kaufman- Can you elaborate on what you assert- “safeq kiddushin”for an unmarried woman and “issur of the woman on her husband” with a married woan.. Do you have ANY sources on what to base thes truly amazing assertions?
what we need right now is a few well placed bullets in the terrorists heads
with the greatest respect to all posters, the shulchan aruch and the remo discuss when mincha is prayed, whether we can wait till “tsais” or not-when it becomes night. the time of mincha has nothing to do with rabbeinu tam or geonim times.they are concerned about how much after sunset does night fall. there is a ‘second’ shkiah concept but it is not mentioned in shulchan aruch and rabbeinu tam’s zman does not appear in this siman.
I just saw this thread and permit me to say that there is a major misconception in the whole thread. Whether you “daven” mincha before or after the “shkiah” has nothing to do with Rabbeinu tam’s shittah or the geonim’s shittah.
It has to with whether you can “daven” mincha till night or not. PLEASE check shulchan aruch “siman 233-se’if 1” and the remo.
Nowhere is there a mention of Rabbeinu Tam or the geonim-which really has to do when is nightfall.
I was at a total loss when all of you were talking about “BTL” and I had no idea what it meant. I had to google it and-surprise-it told me it means “Bachelor of Talmudic Law”. I had never heard of it beforehand and I still don’t know what it means.
wolf- continue doing what you are doing…you are the one with the very loving relationship
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hummingbird- thank you for your posting !! if the critics would just attend a kabbalat shabbat or havdaalh service and see the joy and sheer spirituality of the occasion..they may change their mind !
bpt- i am all with you on this. many nigunnim make one cry but they are tears of joy and bring out the most inner feelings of our heart.
well meaning- i heard that story too and the rebbe -zol gezund zain- said: (in yiddish) vus-ehr lost nisht zingen?”
allow me to add my two cents to this thread.
There is no more ‘freiliche’ kabbolos shabbos than a “carlebach kabbolos shabbos’ .Everyone gets up and dances and it is the most wonderful experience. The davening is long BECAUSE people love it so much. I can see why it might be difficult to daven every shabbos in the full nusach but to do this from time to time is the most uplifting experience. if you want to have your heart sing, go a Yehuda green concert when he sings R’shlomo’s niggunim. if you don’t ,then your neshomo has a problem. remember, the “shaar haneginah” is right next to the “shaar hakovod”.
As far as r’moshe’s teshuvah: first of all, R’shlomo’s name ws never mentioned. I actually know who asked this question and it was clear that there was absolutely no problem singing his niggunim. so, please , if you don’t like his nuggunim or him, you are entitled to your opinion but it is no coincidence that tens of thousands of people sing his niggunim today and celebrate Kabbolos Sahbbos with his nussach .( sorry, cantoresq)
feif un: why??
datchik- sounds more like a russian/polish noun and it makes sense
wolf- I thinkm that a girl is converted under three (eiunah reu-ah lebiah)it may be different,,,,,will look up the sources
The Mogen Avrohom writes “tov lenashek jedei imo beleil shaboss- from hakavonos (presumably the ari) thanks for the source-feivi36.
as for not making kiddush between six and seven- this is a minhag because that hour is under the influence of mazel adom (if my memory is correct) unless you are a chassidische rebbe, not many people adhere to it.
homeowner-that is interesting. so,are you telling us that the polish jews took a french word and made it yiddish? usually, the original words were german.
The Syrian community may stick to its “takanot” but clearly, it is a mitzvah to love the convert “ve-ohavto es hager”. some of the greatest Jews were geirim or descendants of geirim-see onkelos ha-ger and Rabbi Akiva
i am very lenient- but a MEAL on that day? mmmm….does it celebrate the event? it might certainly be a major problem.
gavra-boy-you bring me back to my old yeshiva days- exporing ‘chakiras”- I remember the question whether “missah’ (death)is a ‘mattir”…I cannot remember the different aspects of this….stimulating, though!
gavra-of course I am interested ! will look it up at earliest convenience ! now yo uhave to tell me where it is- IN “ben yehodiyohu’?
on second thought- the ‘ben ish chai'” proof from Mattan Torah is not comparable. At mattan torah, the Jews had their bodies intact- their souls left their bodies -porcho nishmoson- and so when the Almighty returned their souls- it was not as if they actually died. In the story of Rav Zeira and Rabba- they cut his head off and he surely was considered dead-Psik reisha velo yomus?- and so, the question remains, does his erstwhile wife need new Kiddushin?
I am comforted to see that a number of posters have noted that there is a major difference between “yemos hamoshiach” -as per the Rambam paskening like Shmuel in chelek- when nothing changes except “shibud malchyios” (the throwing off of our oppressors yoke).
One question on the Ben Ish Chai- how do we know that the Bnai Yisroel did NOT need another kiddushin after mattan torah?
gavra-a-work- are you referencing a woman ‘married to two men’ as the “mehashtoh’ and ‘leachar zman’ sugya? (Kiddushin, perek Ho-omer) I haven’t looked up your references yet.
I am pretty sure that in that case,she must divorce both.
In any case, this whole thread is totally speculative-as techiyas hameisim is a real difficult concept to understand. Does the person come back as a young man/woman? or as the old man/woman that died?
there may be a small indication from the “atzomos hajeveishim” and the Tanna who declared that he was a descendant of theirs. Presumably, he was not a mamzer-even though he was born later, after their ressuscitation. Was he born to the same parents?
As far as the hetter of a woman “after death”, if my memory serves me correctly, isn’t there a question about “eishes eliyahu”, who went up to heaven alive? was he considered dead to the world?
Kaskettel”- it is the word ‘kasket” that means a cap in german and made’yiddish”. in french -the word “casque” means a helmet.
canine…there is a much easier example and much more “lemaaseh” bar mitzvahs ! a boy born on the second month of adar -after his friend born on the first month of adar-will have his bar mitzvah earlier in a non-leap year, if he is born on an earlier day of the month.
I have to echo shmuel294.i also looked everywhere on the cRc website and there is not a whit about Starbucks coffee. They do cite that only cans and bottles (except strawberries) is under their actual supervision but they say nothing about the coffees consumed on the premises.
popa- if i’d be a dayan ,i’d say that you are guilty of ‘geneivas daas”. Seriously, though, you must have a very boring life to spend your whole day in Starbucks…..
what is going on here ? it seems that the coffee went to popa’s head! all silly talk and frivolous remarks…on a serious note- those huge metal pots of coffee are to big to put into any dishwasher.they are (probably) scoured by hand and thouroughly washed separately. I am also pretty sure that detergent is always used- for sanitary purposes. Plus= what “keilim’ are there that may be treif- i said once before that the food is brought in from a central commissary and is offered on disposable plates. I am still waiting for the CrC paper….
thank you-daas yochid- this is exactly what i meant ! You are always “on the money’ in all issues that you are discussing.
By the way- on a personal level, I have never seen any “treif’ sandwiches in a starbucks. Maybe chicago is different. In any case, there would be a million “tsedoddim lehetter” not least the fact that the vast majority of utensils are washed with soap (I can’t even imagine not using soap)that gives it the “nossen taam lifgam”.
and who said you cannot drinmk coffee from mcdonalds? of course, the “maaris ayin” aspect exists with mcdonalds but quiet less with starbucks.
feif un- can you clarify why the CrC has a problem? When it comes to the coffee- it is made by machines that are dedicated to making coffee and nothing else and, as I said, everything else is disposable.
Anyone who has ever had coffee at starbucks knows that the coffee is always served in paper cups that are thrown away afterwards. Similarly, they do not use spoons btu plastic stirrers. I am at loss to understand the problem. The coffee machines surely are not washed “together’ with anything.
charliehall- you (almost) prove my point. The vast majority of cities (and villages) were small. Only very few cities had a population large enough to bring this question into play. And remember that those 600,000 had to be in ONE place during that day. That clearly would be the requisite condition. It is highly unlikely that even in Warsaw, ALL the population passed through one city fare during one day. Today, of course, it is more prevalent in the world’s largest cities and this is why in New York, London and others, the eiruv is problematic and relies upon other kulos.
gavra-at-work,thanks for the mature thread !!
May I say at the outset that ,in past times in cities throughout europe, there was never a problem because there was not one street that was sixteen amos wide. If you ever visit Europe and go to the old centers, you will see that the streets were always narrow- never wide (like the Old city in Yerushalaim).Also, not one street was ever “mefulosh”-going straigth across the city -or at least having both entrance and exit lined up. The problem arose in the large squares and in the new cities. This is where the hetter of the 600,000 arose- if the other freeing details were absent. The later Poskin througout Europe took the view that we need “shshim ribui” to make a full reshus horabim and every city in europe had an eiruv,including vilna, i think! until the twentieth century, there was barely a city in the world that had six hundred thousand together- (remember, they must pass in one day!)and so ,virtually every city had an eiruv. Today, in cities like new york and london, this problem has arisen. By and large,however, it seems that the majority of later poskim held the view that you need six hundred thousand. BTW- there were many,many rabbonim in Warsaw-not only R’menachen Zembe HYD who, by the way, did not occupy a pulpit.
Today, of course,
iyhbyu: “boneh” ????? please clarify (A poster brought down that R’Shlomo Zalman did not consider snow, fallen before shabbos, muktzah) Also, carrying? how-if less that ‘arbah amos”
daas yochid- Look up the sugya in “Keitsad Tsolim” (Pesochim) daf “ayin daled amud bais” (74B) and you will see that the gemoro indeed prefers to pasken lekuloh. There are other sugyos too.
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oomis1105- i fully agree with your comments!!
daas yochid- look in “beitzah” ‘bais amud bais” rashi on “koach deheteira odif”
R’feivel Kohn did an unbelievable job job in writing “Badei Hashulchan” (trying to follow the mishne berurah’s example).
just for your informational purposes….Shulchan aruch hilchos purim, siman Tarzaddikvov (696) se’if 6: an ovel (mourner)sends misloach monos but does not receive for the full year (after parents).
As far as the seudah goes- there are many who are “meike”l to allow a mourner to share the seduah with others.
mosherose- can you give me the source for what you said about trope?? and how do you explain the litvishe troep, the polish trope, the sefardi trope, the “yekke’ trope?
lastly- “kefirah” ??? aren’t you over the top???? kefirah in what??
the new york times was fifteen cents, a token for the subway was fifteen cents, a slice of (kosher) pizza was fifteen cents…the chinese laundry would not give you your shirt back without a ticket…and a danish was fifteen cents…a pack of cigarettes was thirty five cents…(thank g-d i never smoked) and, eureka, you could still take a date by subway!!!
dvorak, for his ‘new world symphony”, beethoven, for his fifth and the egmont overture, mendelssohn for his violin concerto, vivaldi for his four seasons and rimsky korsakov for his scheherezade.
just to wake wolf up= i doubt that the mods will allow this through- anyway- how does science contradict torah? evolution does not necessarily contradict torah, the age of the world does not necessarily contradict torah…
hello99- i always cover any food I put in the microwave (unless it is totally parve,like bread or a potato) Condensation does not appear in these circumstances. The only condensation you may see is from an open cup of water as it gest heated, thereby manufacturing steam. IF you would put a plate of soup- uncovered- in the microwave, you might have condensation and hence, if it is chicken soup, they stick to the walls. It still is a question whether the walls are hot enough to absorb it, and maybe that the condesantion just sticks to it, without being absorbed. (remember kdei kelipah)