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qwerty613Participant
To the Jews in the Group
It’s amazing that we have the Zchus to see Chazal’s words come to life for us, Growing up I thought that idolatry was a superstition. Now we see how real it is. These Lubavichers are so lost(spark) that they don’t even realize how hopeless they are. Hashem took away Paroah’s free will, their god robbed them of their ability to recognize truth. Rabbi Miller said that Gehinnom is the world of regret. These Lubavichers will be shown these posts and Hashem will ask them why the messages didn’t get through to them. Like Korach who ultimately said that Moshe is Emes, they’ll realize that Qwerty and Yankel Berel and all the others were Emes, but by that time it will be too late.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Seichel
I’d like to address the point you made about Yaakov Avinu being god. Clearly you believe that esoteric statements should be understood literally. What’s interesting is that your Rebbe/god didn’t agree with that position. The question of the age of the universe is debated in Rabbinic circles. Most Rabbis don’t accept the literal view of “six days 5784” but the Rebbe did espouse that opinion. When asked about the Midrash which said that there were many worlds which existed before ours he famously answered, “those were spiritual not physical worlds” and so they don’t contradict the classical belief. It would follow that he would also explain the Midrash regarding Yaakov being god in a non-literal fashion. BTW you said there’s a which says that Gemara that Yaakov is god. Please cite that Gemara because I’m not familiar with it.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Seichel
I’d like to address the point you made about Yaakov Avinu being god. Clearly you believe that esoteric statements should be understood literally. What’s interesting is that your Rebbe/god didn’t agree with that position. The question of the age of the universe is debated in Rabbinic circles. Most Rabbis don’t accept the literal view of “six days 5784” but the Rebbe did espouse that opinion. When asked about the Midrash which said that there were many worlds which existed before ours he famously answered, “those were spiritual not physical worlds” and so they don’t contradict the classical belief. It would follow that he would also explain the Midrash regarding Yaakov being god in a non-literal fashion. BTW you said there’s a which says that Gemara that Yaakov is god. Please cite that Gemara because I’m not familiar with it.
qwerty613ParticipantNo one should pay attention to qwarty 613,He is really crazy and hates Lubavitchers because he couldn’t do the semicha by them.That is the reason and not anything else.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
I’m so full of anger I just can’t respond to Seichel’s unimpeachable sources. You, on the other hand, are the voice of reason. So why don’t you explain what it means that Yaakov is god? Did he create the universe? Of course, you’re a lying coward like your landsman Shmei so you never answer any question that the real Jews ask.
To coffee
Shame on you for siding with the idolaters. You’re still angry at me because I said last year that I watch TV
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
You use the term “Sinas Chinam” inappropriately. Sinas Chinam means baseless hatred. The implication is that if one has a justifiable reason to hate another Jew(s) he is permitted and probably obligated to do so. Was Pinchas wrong for what he did? Quite the opposite. I have clearly proved that there is a substantial element within Chabad who are overt idolaters. Sechel has stated clearly that the Rebbe is god. Rabbi Cunin stated publicly that the Rebbe and not Hashem runs the world. This isn’t Korov to idolatry it is outright idolatry and since you refuse to condemn such statements one must conclude that you agree with them. If you don’t then answer my challenge and say that Sechel, Cunin and his adherents are idolaters and I renounce them. Of course you won’t do so because you’re too busy attacking YU and Touro. As for my position vis a vis the Rebbe. He was a Kofer and I’ve offered clear-cut evidence. One of my closest Rabbeim said, “The Rebbe’s Gaavah was so enormous he convinced himself he was god.” I know that you want to portray as this wild-eyed zealot who hates Lubavichers. If you saw me interact in Shul you’d have a very different picture. Everyone welcomes me when I come to shul in the morning because I daven for the Amud every day. Look most of my patients are Christians does that mean that I hate them because we have a different religion? I like most Lubavichers that I know as people but their religion isn’t Judaism AFAIC.
To Coffee Addict
Their are only three shuls in my neighborhood with daily minyanim. Two are Chabad and one is a YI with a Chabad Rabbi who I can’t stand. I won’t give up davening with a minyan and so I attend the shul I go to. I didn’t say that all Lubavichers are idolaters. What I said is that since no one repudiates those who openly state that the Rebbe is god it would seem that they should be judged as idolaters. Of course that’s not my call. Hashem has to make any such decisions and until our Gedolim pasken that one can’t daven in a place with Lubavichers I’m certainly permitted to do so.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Seichel
Congratulations you’re now officially a Christian since you believe in the Trinity, Hashem, Yaakov Avinu and Oso Harebbe.
To Lostspark
Are you ready to disassociate yourself from Seichel or are you too busy trying to shut down YU and Touro for producing doctors and lawyers? Whatever, it’s case closed, Chabad is idolatry. To Menachem Shmei checkmate dude.
qwerty613ParticipantTo always
I agree with you that there are many wonderful Lubavitchers. The Rabbis of the shul I go to are terrific and we’ve been friends for years. However I heard the following from two of the congregants, “Everything we have in our lives comes from the Rebbe. To which the other said, “Of course, we live in the shadow of the Rebbe.,” These are Russian Jews who didn’t know Aleph Bes ten years ago. The Rabbis never mention Hashem. It’s a steady diet of the Rebbe and the people automatically become believers. I’m not telling you what to believe. I like that you have a mind of your own, but according to my observations the Rebbe is very much to blame.
To Seichel
I take about 25 hours for every blatt. I’ve been learning Shabbos for more than 12 years. I have a certain system. I’m answering you because I try to answer each question. Now you have an annoying habit of misquoting people. First you said that the Rabbis on Lichtenstein s program said that the Rebbe is Moshiach which was a total lie, now you accuse me of comparing Elokistim and Meshichistim. I didn’t say that. It was Rav Aharon Feldman. As far as I’m concerned every Lubavicher has the Din of an Elokistim because no one criticizes the maniacs like you and Cunin who claim that the Rebbe is god. As for your Midrash., I agree with it. My name is Yaakov and so you’ve convinced me that I’m god who created worlds. But seriously if you think that Midrashim must all be accepted literally then you obviously believe that Adam had relations with every creature in the universe on the day he was created.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Yserbius
It sounds like you’re challenging me but we’re totally on the same page. Rabbi Feldman is courageous and has taken a public stand but I know many other mainstream Rabbis who are fully aware of the Chabad scourge but they don’t want to get involved. It’s amazing how these Lubavichers keep pitching. Menachem Shmei disappeared because he realized the futility of their cause. He can protest otherwise but no one is buying his nonsense. Boruch Hashem Lostspark and Seichel haven’t given up. The lunacy that they present does more to damage Chabadianity than anything we mainstream posters can say. It calls to mind the sage words of Mark Twain, “When you keep your mouth shut I only think you’re stupid, but when you open it all doubt is removed.”
qwerty613ParticipantTo Yserbius
Rav Aharon is one of the few Rabbinic leaders who has spoken out against Chabad and he has done so for years. He said that the Meshichistim don’t bother him, it’s the Elokistim, those who believe that the Rebbe is god who worry him. It’s becoming more and more apparent that those Lubavitchers who think that the Rebbe is Moshiach also think that he’s god. If that sounds like Christianity it’s because it is the same. T he problem with Chabad is that if a Rabbi doesn’t publicly denounce them they announce that such Rabbi endorses them. Even those Rabbis who did endorse Chabad like Miller and Sacks would reject the idea that he’s Moshiach or god.
qwerty613ParticipantTo always
Thank you for your comment. I don’t write to change Chabad’s “,mind ” They are idolaters and by definition they are no longer in charge of their senses. I write to reach people like you who aren’t convinced as to the depths of Chabad’s depravity. The more they respond the . more obvious it is that their religion is not Judaism. And don’t think that the Rebbe gets a pass. Unfortunately most Jews who’ve decided that Chabad is kosher will ignore the facts at all costs. But I’m glad that you see what a despicable liar Lostspark is. He’ll say anything to cover up for his fellow zombies.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
“Some nut jobs in 770 allegedly davening to the Rebbe.,” That would include Rabbi Cunin who stated that the Rebbe runs the world. That is clear-cut idolatry. He is in charge of thousands of Lubavitchers. So no this isn’t about a a few psychotics in CH. The Chazakah is that all Lubavitchers are idolaters.
qwerty613ParticipantTo always
You’re a decent person so I’ll address your comments accordingly..I certainly agree that when there’s a pressing need innovation is called for. Sarah Shenirer is a prime example. But the Rebbe rejected open Gemaras. The Gemara says that there is no Nevuah until Moshiach. The Rebbe said that certain individuals did attain that status including his father-in-law. With that statement his followers assumed that he’s also a Navi. Therefore when he said that Moshiach’s arrival is imminent they accepted it as a Nevuah and so it can’t be challenged. There’s more but I want to respond to the other posters.
To Lostspark
When the subject of Lubavitchers davening to the Rebbe came up you dismissed it like Kotlarsky. Now you change your tune and say it’s just a few nut jobs. In fact it’s a significant percentage and since the leadership refuses to say anything it becomes Shtika Kihoda. Nice try to shift the focus to YU but that’s not the subject of this thread. As for why the Gedolim haven’t ruled that Chabad is illegitimate. That was a major topic in Dr. Berger’s book. He said that all the Gedolim he spoke to agreed with him but said they didn’t want to get involved. It’s not my place to challenge them.
To Seichel
I learn Avodah Zarah, Berachos and Shabbos..Most of the time is on Berachos. I try to make a Siyum every year for my Chabad shul on Erev Pesach. By the way I take about 25 hours to learn a blatt, because I write questions and answers. I have haskama from R Dovid Feinstein’s son-in-law so I could care less what you think. As for your statement that the Rebbe declared himself the Bore Olam in the sixties and Rav Moshe didn’t protest. Real Jews don’t believe that their Rabbis are prophets. Rav Moshe didn’t have spies reporting to him as to what was going on in CH.
qwerty613ParticipantTo skripka
The reason I asked Seichel to answer my questions is because I wanted his answers There are mainstream Jews who still refuse to accept that Chabadianity is nothing but insanity. The more that these lunatics express their views the clearer this truth becomes.
qwerty613ParticipantTo yankel berel
Hashem will decide if they’re Tinkos Shenishba. Since they know enough to lie and cover up for their dead god I’m not so sure.
To Lostspark
Congratulations you bear me lol. Until the Gedolim pasken that davening in a Chabad minyan is Assur I’ll continue to do so. Nice try.
qwerty613ParticipantOO no
qwerty613ParticipantTo always
I see. So according to you when there’s a pressing need one is allowed to change the Torah. Thank you for agreeing with with me that the Rebbe was a reformed Rabbi.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
I will reiterate what I said. Ruba Druba of Lubavitchers are liars. But each has his own style. Rabbi Schachter didn’t say “a rumored small contingent in Chabad who may or may not be davening to the Rebbe.” Those are your words the words of a liar. What the Rosh Yeshiva said is that some Lubavitchers daven to the Rebbe and this is idolatry. He was very clear. I don’t lie because my G-d hates liars. But your dead god was a liar so Kal VChomer his followers. As for Lichtenstein having the din of an idolater that’s for Hashem to decide.
qwerty613ParticipantTo yankel berel
Your post is well taken. Too many of the posters are afraid to acknowledge that the Rebbe is to blame for Chabadianity. One of Rav Moshe’s grandsons told me that I was completely correct about Chabad but not about the Rebbe. I asked him why he said this and he told me that a number of people he trusts told him that the Rebbe was beyond reproach .I told him to give me those Rabbis phone numbers and I’ll set them straight. In the Yeshiva world too much emphasis is put on Torah knowledge. Yes the Rebbe was a gaon in Torah, but he rejected open Gemaras that didn’t jibe with his agenda.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Seichel
I wake up at 4:30 in the morning and I learn for 2 and a half hours, until Shachris at 7:00. Then I learn for an hour on the train while going to work that’s 3.5 hours. I learn about 2 hours a day at my office between patients. That’s 5.5 hours. Another hour on the train going home. Finally I learn for a half hour between Mincha and Maariv. Some days it’s more than 7 some days it’s less depending on how busy I am at work. Don’t you dare call me a liar. By the way learn how to spell liar and nonsense you numb-skull. As the Gemara says, if you accuse someone of something it’s what you’re guilty of. Q.E.D you are a liar as are Ruba Druba of Lubavichers.
To Lostspark
No one said that Rabbi Shachter or any of the Rabbis on that show offered a blanket condemnation of Chabad. Rabbi Shachter said that some Lubavichers daven to the Rebbe and that’s Avodah Zarah. Then Kotlarsky had the nerve to deny that “any” Lubavicher davens to the Rebbe. I guess he wasn’t aware of the psycho Cunin who stated on YouTube that the Rebbe runs the world. Since it’s the Rebbe and not Hashem, who’s in charge, Cunin obviously davens to him. Since Krinsky and Kotlarsky refused to criticize Cunin it means they endorse him and according to Rabbi Akiva anyone who supports idolatry is an Idolater. So let’s hear you write to the group that Cunin is an idolater and should be removed from his position.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Seichel 83
There were five questions. They are all addressed to you I only want your opinion.1. Do you believe the Rebbe was, is or will be Moshiach?
2. Do you believe that the Rebbe runs the world?
3. Do you believe that the Rebbe is physically alive or dead?
4. Do you believe that the Rebbe was/is a Novi?
5. Do you believe the Rebbe is/was god clothed in human form?qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
It’s Lichtenstein Headlines 102 1/28/17 Revisiting Chabad.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Pekak
I study Gemara about seven hours a day and that sharpens the mind. Your expression is very strange, “I’ve never in my life been a Lubavicher.” If you’re not Chabad just say, “I’m not Chabad.” The fact they you gave such a wordy response calls to mind the Bard, “Methinks thou doth protest too much.” Yes, I’m pretty sure you’re lying. And even if you aren’t Chabad, you’re lying about Chabad not telling people to remove their shoes at the Ohel. I know because it was personally said to me and my credentials for honesty are well established.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
As Seichel 83 said it’s Number 102 But put in 1/28/17 and the name of the program was Revisiting our Relationship with Chabad. That should work.
qwerty613ParticipantTo pekak
So why do you use deceit to defend them?
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
The Rebbe’s bones are interred in 770, So what’s buried in Queens. Rav Schachter is holding pretty ignorantly if he said this. You said that you would stand for a Litvish godol. Now you call such a Godol stupid.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Right. And there’s no such thing as a Lubavicher who believes that the Rebbe is god clothed in human form. This discussion has been going on for several weeks. So now you’ll listen to the podcast? I heard it when it aired. Rabbi Schachter said that many Lubavitchers daven to the Rebbe and not Hashem and that’s idolatry..Then Lichtenstein put on Kotlarsky who denied that any Lubavicher davens to the Rebbe. There used to be a commercial,”You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s( bread) You don’t have to be a liar to be Chabad but it sure helps.
To Pekak
I went to the Ohel years ago and was told to remove my shoes. One of us is lying. I wonder if that’s a real Jew like me or a Lubavicher.
To skripka
They have already incorporated Islam into their religion. They lie to the infidels who don’t accept the Rebbe as their savior.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Right. And there’s no such thing as a Lubavicher who believes that the Rebbe is god clothed in human form. This discussion has been going on for several weeks. So now you’ll listen to the podcast? I heard it when it aired. Rabbi Schachter said that many Lubavitchers daven to the Rebbe and not Hashem and that’s idolatry..Then Lichtenstein put on Kotlarsky who denied that any Lubavicher davens to the Rebbe. There used to be a commercial,”You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s( bread) You don’t have to be a liar to be Chabad but it sure helps.
To Pekak
I went to the Ohel years ago and was told to remove my shoes. One of us is lying. I wonder if that’s a real Jew like me or a Lubavicher.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
So do you agree that many Lubavichers are idolaters as Rav Herschel Schachter said on the Lichtenstein program? The Rosh Yeshiva said that many Lubavichers daven to the Rebbe instead of Hashem.
To Pekak
Name one non-Chabad Jewish cemetery where one is asked to remove his shoes. Checkmate.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Pekak
The Ohel is the only cemetery that “asks” people to remove their shoes. But I’ll accept that it’s only a Chabad minhag just like it’s only a Chabad minhag to think that your Rebbe is god. The reason Chabad wants people to take off their shoes at the Ohel is that they equate the Rebbe with Moshe Rabbeinu(R”L) Just as Moshe had to take off his boots at the Sneh so too we must follow suit.
To skripka
He was a genius, but calling him holy is highly questionable.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
The answer to your question is no. There’s nothing wrong with davening at the kever of a Tzaddik. But going to the Ohel is a problem because Chabad considers the Rebbe god clothed in human form. As proof people who come there must take off their shoes because it’s holy ground.
qwerty613ParticipantTo the group
Do any Lubavitchers still keep my the 9 days? I think that the Rebbe encouraged Siyumim so that his Chasidim would imagine themselves as having already been redeemed. BTW how many of those Siyumim are Halachially valid?qwerty613ParticipantTo Always
About 35 years ago Rabbi Dovid Hollander told me something very powerful, “Don’t try to understand a Rosho because you’re not a Rosho.” The point is that we think that all people have certain common beliefs and values, and so it’s pointless to lie, especially in an anonymous forum. You’re right that it makes no sense, but Lubavitchers are idolaters. Their entire existence revolves convincing themselves and others of their lies. So don’t be surprised by any tactic they use. Last year Menachem Shmei started a thread intended as an “open discussion” with non-Lubavichers but he ultimately realized he couldn’t convince real Jews of the Chabad garbage so he disappeared. Our mission is to speak forcefully against this scourge because too many great Rabbis make the mistake of giving Chabad tacit and sometimes outright acceptance.
qwerty613ParticipantTo seichel
You still refuse to answer my questions. I never said that Chabad is the closest religion to Judaism.. Chabad is Christianity with some meaningless rituals thrown in
To DaMoshe
Thanks for the support. Aside from the basic insanity of being a Lubavicher Lostspark is obsessed with me. I don’t know why but frankly I don’t care.
qwerty613ParticipantTo always
I’m surprised that you think it’s a Chiddush that Lubavitchers would lie. Their entire religion is a lie. But you’re right. To blatantly lie and think you can fool others as well as Hashem is, perhaps, worse than idolatry. I heard the program when it first aired and none of the Rabbis endorsed the idea that the Rebbe is Moshiach. I, unlike Chabad, don’t lie.To Lostspark
As I wrote earlier for the past few months I was on VIN as the whole tooth. Why that name? Because I’m a successful dentist. As for the name qwerty my son thought of it. Yes I’m also happily married. And I’ve been writing for the JP for the past 40 years. I could go on but I’m from the LES and it’s not our Mehalech to brag. It’s sad that you think that by putting me down you can justify your empty existence.As for your statement that I would stand for the Rebbe. Yes I would. Rabbi Miller said that if Eisav came into the Bes Midrash we’d all stand up for him. The Rebbe was a gaon but also a heretic and I’ll prove that with your own words. You clearly accept the Gemara as evidenced by the fact that you quoted the story about Rebbe Hakodosh. Therefore you would be forced to agree that the Rebbe is a Kofer because he rejected open teachings of the Gemara.
qwerty613ParticipantTo the group
I recently returned to the group, but for the past several months I was doing battle on VIN. Interestingly there I had to fight Lubavitchers and mainstream Jews. The former engage in mindless name calling, but its the latter who really irk me. They refuse to accept that Lubavitchers believe the Rebbe is Moshiach and certainly the Rebbe is god clothed in human form. They maintain that there are a handful of crazies but Ruba Druba of Lubavitchers are normal.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
No one called the Rebbe an idolater although the Gadol Hador did call him insane. We, in this and other sites, are calling Lubavitchers who worship the Rebbe
and impute to him godlike qualifies idolaters.To Seichel
You still haven’t answered my questions. The real G-d will ask them to you at 120. If you refuse to answer you’ll get a one way ticket to spend eternity with your Rebbe.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Yserbius
You’re absolutely right. I don’t understand why such brilliant Rabbis have anything to do with Chabad. If you shake hands with a Lubavicher he takes it as an acceptance of the Rebbe as your savior. Rav Moshe accepted Rabbeinu Tam Tefilin from Chabad. He looked at it as a Mitzvah opportunity. They brag that this constituted Rav Moshe’s acknowledgment of the Rebbe’s superiority.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Right. He became Moshiach before he died, but no one knows about it.
To Menachem Shmei
I figured checkmate would bring you out of the closet. I guess CS won’t be far behind. Seichel is busy trying to decide which lie you tell.qwerty613ParticipantTo the real Jews
I think you’ll find this interesting. When I got married I inherited my wife’s friends. One was a Chabad couple featuring a real nut job husband. They invited us for a Shabbos. It was 1991 and I knew nothing about Chabad. The guy told me that the Rebbe is Moshiach. I figured he was a crazy BT so I said that’s nice. A year later, post stroke, we were invited again. Again the host tells me the Rebbe is Moshiach. So I told him that he told me that the last time. We met at some event in 95 and he tells me the following, “The Rebbe is Moshiach. It doesn’t matter that he’s dead, because the Gemara says Moshiach can come from the dead. The Chofetz Chaim paskened otherwise, but who cares what he says.” I spoke to one of my Rabbis and he confirmed that the Chofetz Chaim did say that. A year ago I was fighting Chabad on line and I bought this point up. One psycho. Chabad answered, The Rebbe became Moshiach before he died so it’s not a contradiction to the Chofetz Chaim ‘s Psak.
qwerty613ParticipantTo seichel
Hold your horses. Whoever says that Moshiach can come from the dead is relying on a Gemara so obviously he’s not an Apikorus. But it’s quite a jump to say that these Rabbis completely accept the Chabad belief. Even you admitted that Rav Herschel Schachter said on that show that many Lubavitchers are idolaters. Now when are you going to answer my questions you coward? I’ve got you trapped and so it’s time to say checkmate. Remember how I drove Menachem Shmei crazy with that word?
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Enjoy your attempts at humor. Korach also used the mocking route. Didn’t work out too well. I do not need to go to church. The Chabad shul I attend has a nice breakfast after davening on Sunday. Again. It’s not exactly a Chabad shul. The Rabbis are Chabad and the congregants are Russians who know little to nothing about Judaism. Last week one of the Russians approached me and said that Chabad is idolatry. I told him he was right and directed him to this site. Of course, I keep my mouth shut in shul for Shalom Bayis.
To seichel
What’s taking you so long to answer? No matter what lies you tell I’ll catch you. And you know it.
qwerty613ParticipantTo DaMoshe
We can add a point to what you said. One of the reasons Shabbetai Zvi captured so many followers is that conditions were horrific for Jews at the time.e.g. Tach V’Tat
. But today we live in a goldene medina for Jews. We can live well and keep the Torah. And what does Chabad do? They threw Hashem under the bus in favor of a snake-oil salesman. Rabbi Miller said that Gehinnom is the world of regret. That’s where Korach realized he was wrong but there was nothing they could do about it. Chabad Chassidus is potentially wonderful. All they have to do is take the Rebbe out of the equationqwerty613ParticipantTo square _root
There’s a new phenomenon developing in CH. Lubavitchers are now saying that Rambam ‘s criteria for Moshiach no longer apply. When Lubavitchers come to the next world they’ll brag about making a yearly Siyum Rambam. They’ll discover that they get no schar for this learning because they didn’t believe in it. In addition they’ll receive no reward for any other Mitzvah because they were obeying the Rebbe and not Hashem.qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
It wasn’t Sinas Chinam when Rabbi Yaakov Sasportas spoke out against Shabbetai Zvi. And it isn’t Sinas Chinam to speak out against Chabad which is far worse.
To Seichel
Let’s put aside Lichtenstein s program. I want to know what you think. 1. Is the Rebbe physically alive? 2. Is he Moshiach? 3. Is he god clothed in human form? 4. Does he run the world? 5. Is/was he a Novi?qwerty613ParticipantTo coffee addict
You’re absolutely right.
To Seichel
Chabad resembles Judaism in that you keep Jewish rituals. Chabad resembles Christianity because your focus is on a dead Jew rather than a Living God. Look how you twist yourself like a pretzel to try to convince yourself tand others that Rabbis outside of Chabad think that the Rebbe is Moshiach. I’ll quote one of my Rabbeinu who never criticizes Chabad or anyone because he’s a Talmid of Rav Pam. “The belief that the Rebbe is Moshiach is not part of normative Judaism.” As far your statement that distinguished Rabbis say that the Rebbe is Moshiach. There are Rabbis who will say that Moshiach can come from the dead, although the Chofetz Chaim paskened otherwise. However those Rabbis have never said the Rebbe is the dead person that the Gemara is referring to.qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Your obsession with me is very flattering. You seem to have convinced yourself that I alone stand in the way of the Rebbe ruling the world. Halevai that a nobody like me would have such power. Take a look at the other posters. They’re all saying exactly the same things as me and many of them have been on this site for years. Yet you only focus on me. Maybe you should look at yourself and recognize that you’ve become a full fledged idolater. All the times you’ve put Tefilin on atheists will not buy Hashem ‘s forgiveness.qwerty613ParticipantTo skripka
They’ve already advanced past the breaking point. There was someone on YWN last year who claimed to know the inner workings of Chabad(I forgot his handle.) So he said that before Gimmel Tammuz there was no suggestion in CH that Moshiach could come from the dead. Immediately after he died Chabad invented new rules. I spoke to a Lubavicher with whom I’m friendly and he confirmed what that poster said. Why can’t Chabad see how lost they are? They are idolaters. The Gemara in Avodah Zarah says that an idolater is completely consumed with his idol and so they lose all rationality.
To lostspark
Tell Schneersohn to contact me. I have a job so I can’t waste my time. Since he’s dead, he has plenty of free time on his hands.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
You want substance. As expressed in this and other sites, the Chabad belief system clarifies that your religion is closer to Christianity than Judaism. Can I be more blunt? BTW you’re obviously obsessed with me so maybe you should consult with your live/dead Rebbe.
qwerty613ParticipantTo Lostspark
Send me his email address and I’ll drop him a line. -
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