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To philosopher

You’re always spot on. Another difference between Chabad and the original Christians is that they’re totally Dovuk to their dead, lying getchke. With the Christians I know it’s minhag avoseihem biyadeihem. Psychos like Shmei can’t imagine a world in which he’d have to believe in Hashem so his false bravado is simply a mechanism to cover up his realization that the end is imminent. Now he’s trying to figure out how to squirm out of the Candace Owens question. The good news for Shmei is that he’ll be spending a lot of time with his god at 120.

To philosopher

I’m impressed. You actually got Shmei to make a definitive statement. He officially stated that Yaakov is alive and well at 3k plus years. Of course you should write that down in pencil because he may deny having said that tomorrow.. However Shmei doesn’t believe that Yaakov is god. So he accepts Rashi literally but rejects the literal meaning of the Gemara. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. His Kofer Rebbe also chose which Gemaras to believe and which to reject..I think he flipped coins to make those decisions

To philosopher

Hopefully you now understand why there can be no discourse between the real Jews in this thread and the Three Stooges particularly Shmei. They believe in nothing other than the Kofer who commutes between Queens and 770. Nebuch they’ve crossed the 50th level of Tumah and they will never be redeemed.

To coffee addict

Your point is well taken but you’re not dealing with Chachamim you’re dealing with that lying Stooges.

To always ask

I addressed your question above. Pozner wasn’t praising Abraham’ s kindness. He was putting him down. That’s common practice among Lubavitchers. I mentioned the punk who said that the Rebbe was greater than Moshe Rabbeinu
His father-in-law said that the Vilna Gaon was a nobody compared to the Baal Hatanya. The only Godol they don’t insult is Rav Moshe but they tell stories about how he accepted the Rebbe as his master.

To coffee addict

As much as possible we have to avoid any discussions with the idolaters..They believe in nothing but their dead god and so they’ll say anything. I ridicule the Kofer because Avraham Avinu or according to Seichel, Avraham Avenue teaches us to mock getchkes. On the other hand I admit the truth. The Rebbe was a super genius in Torah and Madda and those who knew him say that he was a delightful person. Would any Lubavicher acknowledge Rav Shach’s greatness in Torah? That’s a rhetorical question but the vermin Shmei will write that Rav Shach is his favorite Gadol just to contradict me. The Three Stooges think that the Rebbe will conquer the world if I can be silenced. I should be proud that Chabad is so afraid of me. I guess I am as great as I think I am. Just kidding Shmei.

To yankel berel

Seichel is right only one person was hurt in the ,Golf War he got plunked on the head with a sand wedge. You’re such a smart guy why do you waste time with that idolatrous imbecile?

To coffee Addict

It’s all good. We’re on the same team defending Hashem’s honor and so we’re brothers.

To philosopher

I understand your frustration. You will never get through to them. We debate with Lubavitchers if the Rebbe is alive. The real question is whether Shmei and his cohorts are actually alive. When one loses his ability to think he no longer has free will and so he’s more dead than alive. The Three Stooges can take their shots at me but they’re just adding coals to the fire that’s waiting for them.

To Lostspark

Many Gedolim were.anti-YU like Rabbi Miller and Rabbi Gifter. So what? Rav Moshe certainly wasn’t. I’m from the LES and we judge people by their actions not their affiliations. Therefore I can agree with Rav Shach on one point and disagree on another. On the other hand since you’re a brain -dead idolater you must accept everything that lying Kofer said.

To coffee addict

Rabbi Miller said that if you keep repeating the truth eventually even your enemies will quote you. You and I went at it pretty good and now you’re using my motto. I love it.

To the group

As I wrote the other day I will not address anything said by Shmei. He can write til the cows come home. My decision is final.

To the group

As anyone could predict Shmei brushed off my proof that Seichel is an idolater. Let’s take a closer look. I’ve called Seichel an idolater since he introduced the Trinity
Did he deny t? No. So Shmei will say that he didn’t object because the charge is preposterous..But wait. When I’m called a liar I challenge such defamation. Therefore Seichel silence is Hodah. Or maybe not. And when philosopher and others brought up Cunin Shmei argued that there’s no clear-cut proof that he meant the Rebbe and not Hashem..And so he’s only a possible idolater. And the Rabbi in my shul who said that the Rebbe and Hashem are protecting us may have meant that Hashem does most of the Shmirah and according to the Gemara Miktzas Kikulo. So he’s only a possible idolater. Here’s the problem Sofek idolatry is idolatry Mamash pun intended. A Sofek as to whether Hashem runs the world is called Amalek. This is my final word on the subject. Ok one more word. Checkmate

To the group

Menachem Shmei denies that Lubavitchers think that they are the “Master Race” of Judaism. Let me provide two anecdotes. One of Ron Hirsch’s daughters in laws(He’s a noted philanthropist) was raised Chabad. I asked her if she was taught in yeshiva that Lubavitchers are better than other Jews and she confirmed it. Second story. About 20 years ago I asked a Chabad Rabbi(I didn’t know much about Chabad at the time) how he would feel if his daughter married someone from Lakewood (she was 9 at the time.) He told me that the question was ridiculous because Lubavitchers are the highest form of Jew. As for Shmei’s response that Rav Shach had troublesome offspring. That’s not unusual so did Rav Moshe and a host of others. The reason I make a point of it is that the Rebbe bragged that he would save every Jew.If he couldn’t help his own family how is he going to save Jews in the hinterlands? As for Rabbi Sacks statement. I heard him say that exact quote on Zev Brenner is the Rebbe studied Hitler. It’s possible that in writing he said it differently. Once again Shmei tries to depict me a a liar and he’s checkmated.

To square root

I’d like to offer a serious response to your comment. About ten years ago Butman told a story about someone who went to the Rebbe for a Brocha and he wasn’t answered. I wondered why he’d tell the story. I soon found out. In his obnoxious style he said, “The reason this Chassid wasn’t answered is because he didn’t fully believe in the Rebbe’s power.” So that’s how they’re able to convince themselves that the Rebbe was never wrong.

To Always

And what does that prove? That the Igros works.

To square root

Probably those times the Rebbe told his co-gods Yaakov and Hashem to handle it and they messed up.

To the group

I’d like to explain Shmei ‘s smarminess. Rabbi Sacks said that the Rebbe studied Hitler and declared that Hitler tried to kill all the Jews so he’ll save all the Jews. That might have been one motive but I suspect his real interest was understanding how that madman took control of the most civilized nation in the world. Hitler taught his people that they were the master race. Lubavitchers openly states that they are better than all other Jews. That’s why they can’t give up even though it’s obvious that they’ve been trounced. Shmei says I begged him to condemn Seichel’s statements. All I said is if he wants to prove that he believes in Judaism let him renounce those statements. And if he can’t find them we have Lostspark who gave his version of the Trinity today. But Shmei’s too busy to find it.

To the group

Boruch Hashem the real Jews are all on the same page. It’s time for Hashem to eliminate this cancer, hopefully in a non-violent manner.

To coffee addict

So I guess the Rebbe is Casper the friendly ghost. No that can’t be. He’s still alive. But of course they also think that Yaakov. See how nice it is when we work together.

To coffee addict

You’re right on target. On Sunday mornings after Shachris my Chabad Shul gives a breakfast and a shiur. I learn by myself but I listen to the class. It’s mostly Chabad brainwashing. One Sunday the Rabbi explained the “Heilege Igros Kodesh” to his know nothing Russians.,”I can’t explain the science but I can tell you that everyone who uses the Igros is helped,” Shmei, the consummate phony, decides to play normal Jew to fool ARSo. All of ARSo’s statements are similar to what the other posters have written, but suddenly he agrees with them. I won’t speculate on his strategy but hopefully ARSo won’t fall for it. Shmei had a chance to prove he’s Jewish by calling out Seichel’s idolatry. Until he does so he has the Chazakah of an idolater.

To coffee addict

You’re point is perfectly well taken.

To seichel

I don’t answer questions from Christians

To Menachem Shmei

I haven’t read any of your Rebbe’s sichos. Whatever I know I’ve picked up from these threads and from what I hear in shul. In 1962 the Rebbe apparently said that he’s god clothed in human form. I would have Dan Him Lkaf Zechus that he didn’t mean that literally except for the fact that Seichel and Lostspark do accept it literally and you refuse to call them out for taking it literally.whicb implies that you agree with them..

To coffee addict

Your point was correct but you didn’t present it properly. Chabad has a system called Igros Kodesh. When people ask them how they can continue without the Rebbe they answer that the Rebbe is still with them in the Igros(letters). So if a Lubavicher has a question he randomly opens this book of letters and the Rebbe answers him. So according to Chabad Hashem transformed himself into the Rebbe and the Rebbe placed his essence into those letters. Makes complete sense…..if you’re a Martian.

To yankel berel

Why are you trying to reason with an idolater? Chabad has lies for all the Rabbis who call them out. Dr. Berger wrote the book because he was a failed academic who was about to lose his tenure if he didn’t publish something..So he made up slander and lies against Chabad. And Rav Shach hated Chabad because they didn’t hire him as a Rabbi in Far Chabad in 1951. They use any lie they can think of to get the critics off their case.5

To the group

My parents were American born, so I only picked up Yiddish as an adult. There’s an expression, “Kliger Amalek” that applies to Menachem Shmei. He has a facility for trying to use my words against me, that’s the Kliger part. So if I admit to certain deficiencies he argues that this Posuls my posts. Ramban, in the introduction to his work, stated that what he knows about the Torah compared to the actual depth and breadth of the subject is like the egg of a gnat compared to the Universe(I’m quoting from memory so I might be wrong in a word or two.) So according to Shmei no one should study this work because of his “ignorance.” In fact Ramban’s admission is complete intellectual honesty and humility and this is precisely why we should accept his teachings. So now the sleazebag Shmei is licking his chops, “Do you see qwerty comparing himself to Ramban?” Obviously I’m not in his stratosphere, but that doesn’t mean I can’t try to emulate the Rishon’s Middah of Emes and to that point I readily acknowledge that I’m far from a Talmid Chacham. So how can I challenge the Rebbe who was a Gaon Olam? Because he was a liar as has been proven.

With this preamble let’s get to the main subject. In high school geometry we were introduced to axioms, postulates and theorems, the building blocks of the discipline. They are inviolate and so a triangle, for example, is always 180 degrees(now Shmei will think of some idiotic comment mocking the subject.) Similarly, but L’Havdil, there is one overriding, sacrosanct unalterable concept in Judaism, “Hashem Echad and nothing has any power other than Him.” This is Judaism 1.0 and it’s been universally accepted by believing Jews throughout the ages. Until our times when a sect of renegade(Mumar) Jews decided that this principle is no longer true. So we have Seichel who openly posits that there’s a tripartite god encompassing Hashem, Yaakov and the Rebbe. Then we have the primordial snake, Shmei. He never reveals what he thinks because he’s too smart to play his hand. Instead, he works both sides of the fence. Cunin declares that the Rebbe runs the world so Shmei says that he didn’t openly declare that he does so instead of Hashem. Right. So does that mean that he and the Rebbe are partners as the Rabbi in my Chabad shul said? Again he won’t answer. Will Shmei definitively state that he believes in the Borei Olam and in no one or thing else. Again he won’t answer. So his opinions remain nebulous. This, as I stated a week ago, is the hallmark of Amalek and so Shmei should be removed from the site.

To always

All I said is that Rabbi Pozner downplayed Avraham Avinu’s greatness by writing in his book that the Akeidah was our Founder’s only true test which is obviously false. Leaving his homeland and sending away Yishmael were examples of Avraham going against his Middah of Chesed. As for your statement that I’m maligning the entire sect. I agree with you that many, probably most Lubavichers are wonderful people and don’t share the idolatrous views of the Three Stooges in this thread, but the absolute refusal of anyone in the Chabad power structure to clearly state that it’s Hashem and only Hashem who runs the world give the entire movement the Chazakah of idolatry. They all know what Cunin said, but they won’t censor him . Are you so blind that you can’t understand this?

To seichel

I think that I can understand your Hebrew sources better than your ” English” writing. You’re totally incoherent. Try again and I’ll try to respond.

To always

Let me complete my thought from above. Since Lubavitchers are pathological liars they assume that everyone is like them.

To Menachem Shmei

I’m glad you gave this answer because it gives me the opportunity to shoot holes into all of Chabad’s heretical claims. When we use a term we must be careful that it’s use in its correct, Halachic sense. Nevuah, as it’s properly understood, means that Hashem spoke to the Novi. The Novi then says some variation of, “Thus said Hashem and he continues with the prophecy.” The Rebbe called the Rayatz a Novi, but he doesn’t relate any specific prophecy. I’ll amplify this point. One of the Rabbis of the Chabad shul I attend read a letter in which the Rebbe described the characteristics of a Chabad Nasi. One such qualification is that he has Ruach Hakodesh. The Rabbi then defined Ruach Hakodesh as Nevuah, but that’s patently false. Ruach Hakodesh is one thing, Siyata Dishmaya is another and Nevuah is a third and they’re not interchangeable. Lubavichers regularly “prove” that the Rebbe was a Novi by saying he made correct predictions. That’s not Nevuah. Therefore I’m not impressed with that word being thrown around regarding other Rabbis. It’s not technically correct. Why is this important? I asked another Rabbi in that shul when the Moshiach business started and he told me, “When the Rebbe took over in 1951 he said he’s Moshiach so that’s all we needed to hear.” That’s the problem with people using Halachic terms haphazardly. The Rebbe is not, and never will be a Novi. Nor did he ever make any statements that qualify as Nevuah. Now let’s expand on this point. Seichel keeps reminding the thread that Yaakov Avinu is god because Hashem called him god. Therefore it follows in his ‘mind” that the Rebbe is also god. So again, I don’t know what the Gemara meant when it said that Yaakov is god. Hashem created the world Yesh Miayin. He had no assistance. When we come to shul on Rosh Hashanah the entire theme is to recognize to the nth degree that Hashem is the only force in the world. He decides who will live and who will die, who will become rich and who’ll be impoverished etc. So when Cunin says that it’s the Rebbe who makes those decisions he’s declaring that G-d no longer exists. When another Rabbi of my Chabad shul said, “We have nothing to fear because Hashem and the Rebbe are protecting us he’s positing that Hashem has a partner in running this world.” Sadly you’re so far lost that you can’t understand that what I’m saying is the incontrovertible truth, but again I don’t write to convince you or your fellow idolaters. I write to expose your false religion and to hopefully win over some Jews who are on the fence.

To always

Rabbi Miller said, *If you keep speaking the truth eventually your enemies will quote you.” I’m glad to see that you took Seichel to task for insulting Rabbi Dr. Berger. Lubavichers are idolaters and so they lash out at anyone who challenges their false religion.

To the group

Menachem Shmei has categorically denied that Chabad is idolatry. All the evidence points otherwise. So how do we explain this? No one can accuse a Lubavicher of lying because they all eat Cholov Yisroel. Since the Rebbe declared in 1962 that he’s god clothed in human form it follows that Shmei holds that iRebbe is Hashem and so believing in him is believing in Hashem..Makes complete sense. But only after ingesting a large quantity of certain mushrooms. And let’s not forget the third Stooge, Lostspark. A few weeks ago he vehemently denied that any Lubavicher believes the Rebbe is god.Then he reverses himself and challenges me to respond to Seichel’s “proof” that the Rebbe is god. It is what it is.

To seichel

You did a good job pushing off my challenge from the Gemara in Cheilek. Now let me see you explain how the Rebbe can argue on the Gemara which says that there’s no Nevuah until Moshiach comes.

To Menachem Shmei

Philosopher presented the Cunin video in which he declared the Rebbe runs the world, which means he’s god.And he’s not some random nut job. He’s one of Chabad’s most powerful voices. And Seichel has officially declared his belief in the Chabad Trinity, Hashem, Yaakov and the Rebbe. These are the facts and all your protestations won’t change these facts. The question is not whether Chabad is idolatrous, it’s how widespread this idolatry is.

To the group
I just heard Zev Brenner interview Alan Dershowitz. The famous lawyer said he left Orthodoxy when he was 29. Zev tried to get him to “admit” that he still has some vestige of the religion because he said he’s close to Chabad. Dershowitz repeated that he doesn’t practice the religion. Zev told him that Lubavitchers probably put Tefilin on you. He said no way. Chabad just wants bodies in the seats, they couldn’t care less about their minions’ religiosity.
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To the group

About two weeks ago I predicted that cs would return and she did. The only way to explain this is to say that I’m a Novi. Now that goes against the Gemara but the Rebbe said that certain individuals can attain prophecy and I’m clearly one of them

To always

Let me develop the Miller Chabad connection. When Rabbi Miller was 17 a Lubavicher taught him Kesubos and didn’t charge him. This put him on his path of Torah and so he had Hakaras Hatov for Chabad. To that point in his public speeches he always praised Chabad and the Rebbe. When Rav Shach made his pronouncement Rabbi Miller was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He couldn’t go against the Godol Hador, but he’d look like a fool if he said he was wrong. So he copped out and declared, “When great people argue we don’t get involved.” Rabbi Miller said that if one continues to tell the truth eventually his enemies will quote him. If you listen with an open mind you’ll ultimately see that we’re right about Chabad.