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To the group
I agree with Yaakov Yosef A that this discussion serves no purpose. The State of Israel exists, and Jews have two choices, support it or keep your mouths shut. Threads like this one encourage lunatics to vent and no purpose is served other than to add some coals to their eventual Gehinnom.
To ZSK
No, he doesn’t know it. When people become consumed by some issue all rationality falls by the wayside.
To yankel berel
You’re absolutely right. I don’t get angry at AAQ because he’s pleasant, but he never takes a stand and so my best advice is just to let him make his comments and ignore them. He’s part of a long list of people who aren’t interested in the truth.
To the group
You’re not going to get through to these people. They see Zionism as the root of all evil. They’re likely nice people who keep the Torah so let them be.
To the Group
On Nov 6th, Sam Klein wrote, “Will we NOW FINALLY accept Hashem’s wake up call for serious Tshuvah and Achdus together as one loving nation so Hashem can send Moshiach already Bikarov?” The emphatic answer is that it’s “never” going to happen, because the overwhelming majority of people are loath to make changes in themselves. For the last 40 years have been duped into believing that their wealth, political connections etc. will protect them. Yesterday, someone on VIN wrote, “Richie Taylor will save us from Mamdani.” Hashem looks down and says, “If you’re so confident in your askanim and your Rabbis’ Daas Torah you don’t need Me. It’s particularly difficult for people in affluent communities to see that Hashem is warning us, because for too long their only concern was trying to decide which country to go to for Pesach. If, as I think and hope, Hashem is getting ready to send Moshiach we’ll all have to do almost a complete mental makeover. But that’s not realistic since most view themselves as perfect.
To Always
I was speaking to a Holocaust survivor. The last thing I intended to do was upset her. The point I was making was that it’s illogical for someone to say that they used to believe in G-d but not anymore.
To Anonymous Jew
I’m going to come to your defense because your point is well taken. When we say that Torah protects, we don’t really know what that means, because as you said, throughout the millennia countless Tzaddikim have been martyred. Now we must understand that we can never reject a Torah principle and the belief that Talmud Torah is a shield is certainly such a principle, but it could mean that one who studies is guaranteed Olam Habo. That’s why the people who ridicule the IDF are fools. A Jew must live rationally. Dovid Hamelech didn’t tell his men to sit in the Bes Hamedrash. They fought. It’s quite possible that some stayed behind and learned, certainly learning helps, but this idea that some have that if everyone sat in the Bes Hamedrash Israel could dismantle its armed forces is insane. So, I somewhat agree with you, however, we must be clear that every Chazal is true, but how it’s understood isn’t necessarily clear cut.
To 5TResident
Your post reminded me of an incident that occurred about 35 years ago. I was seeing someone whose mother was an Auschwitz survivor. One time I called the home and the mother answered so I started a conversation. I’m curious. Before the war were you religious? “Of course I was. So, was everyone in my town?” Then I asked her if she believed in G-d at that time. Again, she answered in the affirmative. So, I threw her a curve, “What happened? Did he die?” I didn’t pursue this any further, not looking to put salt on old wounds, but we can discuss this here. G-d didn’t die, obviously, what died is that woman’s concept of G-d. And that’s understandable. We’re constantly told how much Hashem loves us, and it’s easy to believe it when things are going well, but it’s more of a challenge when we face difficulties. We have to realize that Hashem and people don’t operate on the same playing field and so when untoward things happen, we can’t allow them to shake our faith. I acknowledge that this isn’t easy, but it’s part of why they say, “It’s hard to be a Jew.”To the group
I must apologize for an error in yesterday’s post. I meant to write that when the mass grave was opened the Rebbe’s body was intact, but obviously he wasn’t alive. My fault for not reading what I wrote before submitting it.
To Coffee Addict
Let me clear up the confusion. On October 30th, 741 wrote to me, “I’m just wondering, do you consider every Lubavicher a Kofer? Rather than wait for me to answer, he shared the story, in the same post, about the Shliach whose body didn’t decompose. In other words, he took it upon himself to decide that I consider every Lubavicher a Kofer and this was his proof that I’m wrong. The problem is that I never said, nor do I think, that every Lubavicher is a Kofer and so his entire post is completely ridiculous. But then what would you expect from a Kofer. I can call him a Kofer because he refuses to answer my question, to wit, “Do you agree that Manis Friedman is a Kofer?” Obviously he’s dodging my question because he agrees with Manis and he probably also agrees with Cunin that Schneersohn runs the world.
To the group
Since 741 refuses to answer my question, I’ll answer it for him. But first let’s address his moronic proof. I happen to know the case of a Rebbe, I think he was the Chernobler, but I’m not sure, who was killed by the Nazis along with his shtetl during the war. After the war that mass grave was opened by the order of the Soviet government because they wanted to film it as proof of German atrocities. They found the Tzaddik’s body alive and intact with the hair behind his ears still wet because he had just come from the Mikveh. I know the story because it was told to me by the grandson of someone who was there and witnessed the event. Therefore, it is certainly possible that this Chabad shliach’s body did not decompose. Now let’s deal with my question, “Do you agree with Rabbi Feldman that Manis Friedman is a Kofer? Since you won’t answer the question, it’s Shtikah Kihodaah. Moreover, any Lubavicher who agrees, even in part with that statement is a Kofer. Finally, any Lubavicher who agree with Cunin that the Rebbe runs the world is an idolater.
To yankel berel
He knows that the story is irrelevant. It’s classic Chabad. Ignore the subject and focus on nonsense. We understand his point. If this Shliach’s body didn’t decompose that’s proof that he was a Tzaddik. Okay, so what does that have to do with the fact that their religion, in our time, promotes Kefirah?
To 741
The answer to your question is, no I don’t think that every Lubavicher is a Kofer. Now I’ll ask you a question, “Do you agree with Rabbi Feldman that Manis Friedman is a Kofer?
To coffee addict
Are you suggesting that a Lubavicher would lie? Lol.
To Uncle Ben
I laud your attempt to support AAQ, but you failed miserably. Neither he nor I mentioned the word Machlokes, but you made that the centerpiece of your argument. AAQ posited that even though there are Lubavichers who espouse Kefirah, that’s not such a problem because they care for other Jews. Please cite where in Novi we find that Hashem is pleased with an atheist like Manis Friedman, who teaches that Mitzvas are optional and that G-d is no longer able to punish even willful sinners. Checkmate.
To Always
I’ll rephrase your basic point, “If you have to choose between a Jew who has confusing theories about Hashem and one who doesn’t care about other Jews whom would you choose?” You then say that Hashem would choose the latter. So let’s understand your implication. Yes Chabad has some questionable ideas about Yiddishkeit, but at least they care about other Jews and this is most important to Hashem. Could you please support your thesis? I, for one, care more about every Jew than any Lubavicher, because I’m not only interested in their Olam Hazeh but also their Olam Habo. The fact that you think otherwise means that you’re accepting Chabad’s propaganda.
To yankel berel
I know about the “other” Qwerty. Suffice it to say, it isn’t me. Let’s leave it there.
To square root
Dr. Berger made the same point in his book. The Gedolim do not want to get involved. That’s why we have to come to the plate. It’s not our place to challenge the Gedolim. We just have to do whatever we can do.
To Always Ask Questions
Manis Friedman, probably Chabad’s most influential Rabbi declared that no Jew can be punished on matter what he does, because of the long, bitter exile. Translation, G-d no longer exists. This is the normative Chabad belief. The Rabbi of the Chabad shul I attend said that there is no Gehinnom any more. You should speak to more Lubavichers. They’ll confirm everything that I and the others in this thread have said. Obviously the Brisker Rov is greater than any of us but he wrote many decades ago. Things have gotten far worse.
JUST SHUT UP ALL OF YOU,EVERY ONE WRITS HERE SOON WILL SUFFER FROM AN ILLNESS REALY BAD TILL HIS DEATH UNTILL REALIZE WHAT CAN DO LOSHON HARA
JUST SHUT UP ALL OF YOU,EVERY ONE WRITS HERE SOON WILL SUFFER FROM AN ILLNESS REALY BAD TILL HIS DEATH UNTILL REALIZE WHAT CAN DO LOSHON HARA
To Always Ask Questions
Your latest post reminded me of a story. There were two secular Israelis who were hanging out together. One of them had a life-threatening experience and he was saved, and he immediately became a BT. But his friend wasn’t affected. When asked why he wasn’t moved this fellow answered, “My life wasn’t saved.” I’m therefore not surprised that the posts from critics like Yankel Berel, yours truly and others didn’t win you over. You needed a personal event. That’s fine, but you can rest assured that the ‘attacks” directed at Chabad are simply aimed at telling the truth. Some months ago, Seichel 83 spoke about a Psak from CH. He’s right. I saw it. Over 100 Chabad Rabbis “Paskened” that the Rebbe is Moshiach, that he’s a Novi and that he’s still alive. Their religion is a dangerous distortion of Judaism. It’s as simple as that.
To Yankel Berel
I most definitely agree with you that Chabad’s endgame is global domination. Dr. Berger told me privately that the Rebbe often spoke about taking over the world. Let’s not forget their anthem., “From 770 we are marching out on to victory there is no doubt. One by one nations we are conquering.” This is certainly the goal of Chabad’s elite, but I’m trying to reach out to the masses, many of whom are confused. Didn’t Lostspark drop out after being one of their most vehement propagandists. As Hashem prepares the world for the true Redeemer, the Chabad lies will become more apparent. We must continue to speak the truth so that people like Always, who are on the fence, will come over to our side, while some, if even only a handful, of Lubavichers will realize, like the Bnei Korach, that they have to divest themselves from their leaders’ false ideology.
To yankel berel
I don’t know if you’re correct or not. I met two women who each left Chabad and married normal Jews. One left because her father told her to get out before he died. He was a BT but when he saw how Chabad deified the Rebbe after his death, he realized that he had chosen the wrong religion. I don’t know why the other woman saw the light, but I had one exchange with her in which I asked her in front of her in-laws if it’s true that Lubavichers are taught that they’re better than all other Jews. They thought I was crazy for suggesting this, but she confirmed it. My son was at a gathering and two OTD Lubavichers showed up. They each described their Yeshiva experience. Every morning their Rebbes asked them how they connected to the Rebbe the day before. Lubavich is Judaism without G-d. It’s hard for me to believe that every Lubavicher believes their religion is flawless. I think they’re psychologically trapped. Chabad developed in the Soviet Union and that’s how they learned to control their minions. Lemayseh, I’m not arguing with you. Yes, every Lubavicher will spout the same garbage, i.e. that the Rebbe is infallible, but I think there are Lubavichers who can be reached. On VIN there’s a decent guy who argues with me. He posits that there’s just a few crazies and all the others fall in line, because they’re afraid to act. That’s wishful thinking on his part. Let’s continue the discussion and continue welcoming Lubavichers to join us. I, for one, don’t bite.
To the group
I’d like to compliment every poster, because your comments are all spot on, but let me take this in a different direction. For many years I was part of the Rabbi Miller world. Eventually I was turned off by some of his comments. That wasn’t the problem. The problem was that I wasn’t allowed to express my point of view. The Rosh Yeshiva, who I loved, would say things like, “When you’ve gone through Shas 10 times and Mesillas Yesharim 50 times like Rabbi Miller, then you can argue with him.” This didn’t sit well with me because I’m a Lower East Sider and the Feinsteins never stifled anyone from expressing his opinion. The point is that Lubavichers face the same problem. I’m sure that many recognize the issues that we’ve brought to the fore, but they feel that they can’t say or do anything or they’ll face ostracism. I’d like to offer an olive branch(Parshas Noach) and welcome Lubavichers to express their concerns. No one will attack them. It’s totally anonymous. The reality is that Chabad does a tremendous amount of good and the Rebbe was a visionary with his far flung Chabad houses, but there are serious concerns with their belief system. For Manis Friedman to state that no Jew can be punished today because of the long bitter exile is but one glaring example as to how far they’ve strayed from our Mesorah.
To Lemayseh
President Trump isn’t a Chussid. He is, as Square Root said, one of Chabad’s useful idiots. The point is that Chabad doesn’t listen to anyone. They are completely in the clutches of the Yetzer hora who sold them a bill of goods that the Rebbe runs the world.
To the Group
Clearly Chabad doesn’t care about anything that real Jews say. What’s interesting is that if we look at the comments coming from CH in the aftermath of this incident, the Lubavichers are aware that there’s a problem, but they won’t do anything about it. Ultimately, Hashem will take matters in His own hand(s.)
To the Group
I’m waiting for the apologists. Tzfatim don’t represent Chabad. And Cunin and Manis Friedman don’t represent Chabad. And the Meshichistim don’t represent Chabad. And the fellow(s) who put up Messiah is Here signs doesn’t represent Chabad. President Truman famously said, “The buck stops here.” Who, if anyone, does represent Chabad?”
To the Group
I’m waiting for the apologists. Tzfatim don’t represent Chabad. And Cunin and Manis Friedman don’t represent Chabad. And the Meshichistim don’t represent Chabad. And the fellow(s) who put up Messiah is Here signs doesn’t represent Chabad. President Truman famously said, “The buck stops here.” Who, if anyone, does represent Chabad?”
To Sechel 83
If Chabad agrees with Manis Friedman why do you talk about doing Tshuvah in Elul?
To non-political
No problem. I know you are a decent person. Non Lubavichers, like YYA, who defend Chabad are impossible to deal with. They somehow think that they have a Heter to say anything they want. The laws of Judaism also apply in forums such as ours. There’s still a Mitzvah of Veahavta Lersyecha Komacha. Lubavichers attack us because they don’t like what we say, but we’re just trying to expose them to the truth. Something they won’t find in CH where a 100 Rabbis declared that the Rebbe is Moshiach and that he’s still alive.
To yankel berel
But what did the Rebbe say?
To non-political
Are you hiding?
To yankel berel
Just one more point You’ll notice that while YYA asserts that no one in this thread is capable of rendering judgments, he Paskened that I’m in immediate need of psychiatric therapy I guess his late Rebbe gave him a medical degree Obviously, I could care less what he says, but he has absolutely no mensclichkeit I don’t get angry at Sechel because he’s defending his dead god but why is this jerk so devoted to Schneersohn? Baruch Hashem you and I have had a wonderful relationship on YWN, because we converse with each other This dirt bag refuses to address me because he knows what I’ll do to him Worthless coward who ran away to start another thread He can run but no one can hide from Hashem
To yankel berel
I can see why you and non-political were taken in by this worthless phony He writes well and he’s clearly intelligent but he’s a total lowlife YYA’s basic point is that no one in the thread is qualified to Pasken that someone is a Kofer He’s right, but I didn’t Pasken that Manis is a Kofer, Rabbi Aharon Feldman made that assessment When I brought that up he said, “Rabbi Feldman has to call up Manis and ask him to explain what he meant” What a Chutzpah? This shtick gornish is telling a Gadol what he has to do And he continues to lie and say that I was the one who called Manis a kofer And why can’t he answer your questions? It’s because he can’t He’s using as an excuse that his Rebbe held of the Rebbe So what? Why can’t he say that he agrees or disagrees that the Rebbe is Moshiach, for example is that so hard? This is what the Gaon meant when he warned about Chassidim and I come from Chassidim on both sides They hid e behind their Rebbes He’s not fooling anyone, and certainly not Hashem He better hope that Manis is right and G-d no longer punishes anyone, because the G-d I believe in hates liars
To the group
Yaakov Yosef A abandoned a thread in which he was heavily involved because he couldn’t(wouldn’t) answer the challenges of Yankel Berel and non-political So instead he starts his own thread and criticizes the moderators because they don’t follow his bidding While he accuses others of attacking the Lubavicher Rebbe, he fails to admit that when Rabbi Aaron Feldman, who called Manis Friedman a Kofer, was introduced to the thread he said he wasn’t interested So calling the Rebbe names is a problem for YYA but it’s okay to brush off a Gadol As Bob Grant would say, “He’s a phake, phony phraud”
To yankel berel
You claim that the L Rebbe disparaged the Chazon Ish. Could you elaborate?
To the group
If the reason YYA doesn’t want to respond to yankel berel and non-political because he’s afraid of my comments I give my word that I’ll stay out of the discussion. That’s provided of course that he doesn’t bring me into the fray. Checkmate to that dirt bag who uses the Torah to fool people.
To non-political
What will it take for you to accept what I’ve been saying about this lying narcissist? He can’t answer you or yankel berel because he’ll be exposed as a Chabad shill and he wants to pretend that he’s regular Yeshivish. I’m a very good judge of character or in this case lack of character.
To Sechel
You’re right that I’m not ultra-Orthodox, but I’m definitely not secular. If you want me to answer your question, and I would certainly like to, you must first answer my question, “Isn’t it true that the Rebbe was wrong when he said that this is the last generation of Galus and the first of Geulah?” If you disagree explain how he wasn’t wrong.
To yankel berel
Yes, he was prepared to answer your challenges but he decided against it. He is a despicable liar. He keeps attacking others for Bizui Talmidei Chachamim but in truth YYA is the one who’s guilty. When I introduced Manis Friedman’s Kefirah to the group he said he wasn’t interested in the subject. When I pressed the subject he said that Rabbi Feldman should contact Manis and talk it out with him. This two bit nothing is telling a Gadol what he should do. Now he wants to get out of this thread because he feels the heat. And he still pretends that he’s a Torah Jew, What a disgrace. Lying phony that he is.
To Sechel
Why would you think I’m from YU? I’ve stated innumerable times that I’m a Lower East Sider and I follow the Feinstein Mehalech. I know that you’re Chabad and you’re trained to lie, but Rav Moshe and his sons didn’t teach us that offensive trait.
To yankel berel
YYA has been exposed and he won’t address anything you bring up. On several occasions YYA has said that he isn’t a Lubavicher. Well yes and no. He probably wasn’t born Chabad, however the fact that he’s defending their heresy makes him Chabad. What’s my proof? President Trump called Chuck Schumer a Palestinian because he sides with them. YYA is far more devoted to Chabad than Schumer who’s just a typical politician
To the Group
YYA is a one-trick pony, constantly playing the Mivazeh Talmid Chacham card. Rava, in his disputes with Abaye often remarks, “There are two rebuttals to the matter.” I’ll do three. 1. If he’s protesting what we’ve said about Schneersohn, well the Gadol Hador called him crazy, and I doubt that he had as much information about him as we do or he would’ve said much worse. 2. If he’s upset that Manis Friedman has been vilified, again we’re not to blame, all I did was report what a Gadol said about him. If YYA has a problem with that, let him contact said Gadol. 3. Even if we have transgressed belittling Talmidei Chachamim so what? According to his holy Rabbi Friedman no Jew can be punished no matter what he does, so I and the others are totally in the clear. Checkmate.
To ARSo
I would argue that the Rebbe is far worse than ST. Rabbi Miller said that neither Yoshka nor his disciples ever suggested that he’s a Novi. By claiming he’s a Novi the Rebbe was telling his followers that he’s on the same level as Moshe Rabbeinu. I mentioned about a year ago the Chabad clown who said that the Rebbe was much greater, because he never got angry like Moshe.
To yankel berel and non-political
It took you awhile but now you’re on to that lowlife/ He has absolutely no interest in anything but proving to himself how smart he is. I highly doubt he has any Rav, because his Gaavah is too big to be machnia to anyone. Sechel lies to defend his god. YYA’S god is his arrogance and nastiness. He’s even worse than NOPE and that’s saying something.
To the real Jews in the group
Don’t think it makes sense to waste any more time arguing with these clowns. We’ve made our point. The Chabad religion is a fraudulent expression of Judaism. Would just make two comments. First, in no way are any of the actual Jews in this thread Bar Plugta’s of the Rebbe. We’re sane and, as Rav Shach pointed out, the Rebbe was nuts. And Yaakov Yosef A certainly agrees with that assessment because he’d never challenge a Gadol Hador. LOL. Second, let’s focus on the lie that’s at the core of their “religion.” “This is the last generation of Golus and the first generation of Geulah.” The Rebbe said that at least 35 years ago which means this generation passed without Moshiach’s arrival. Checkmate.
To non-political
I’m glad to see that you put Yaakov Yosef A’s feet in the fire. He has no interest in the truth. He simply has his agenda that he wants to promote and so he ignores anything that’s at odds with it. He’s like Nope but Nope’s language was never as malicious. I guess that means I’m doing my job well.
To the group
Yaakov Yosef A used the following logic,”The moderators wouldn’t allow such shmutz to be written about a 3rd tier Rosho Yeshiva or some Shtiebel Rav in Boro Park. So how can they allow such calumny to be directed as the great Lubavitcher Rebbe?” This is a Kal VChomer that’s easily refuted. No Shtiebel Rav called himself a Novi or god clothed in human form. No third tier Rosho Yeshiva said he was the Nosi Hador who would save every Jew
As my Rav said, “The Rebbe’s Gaavah was so great that he convinced himself he’s god.” Now this doesn’t mean that Yaakov Yosef A shouldn’t learn the Rebbe’s Torah or be a fan of Chabad. However he has no right to challenge those who are bringing these truths to the fore. Hey I write pretty good for someone who’s insane. Am I right?To yankel berel
The reason Yaakov Yosef A refuses to act civilly towards me is not because of my attacks against the Rebbe. As you pointed out everyone knows the things he said. What bothered Yaakov Yosef A is that I brought in as did Philosopher Manis Friedman.to the discussion .Yaakov Yosef A knows that he has no way to excuse Manis s Kefirah and so he chose instead to go pitbull on me. As you well know I don’t get intimidated especially not by such worthless trash. No one in the thread denies the good that Chabad does and we recognize the Rebbe’s genius. We’re simply challenging their lies. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
To Abram in MD
No one can predict what will happen when Moshiach comes. You paint a rosy picture but that’s only one possible scenario. According to Rambam natural law won’t change and so it’s hard to imagine that the overwhelming majority of Jews will change their Teva and accept one leader. So I wouldn’t declare that he’ll sentence Chabad to death because he’d have to kill many other Jews. Let’s just Daven for his arrival and hope we’ll be there to greet him
To the group
Sechel claims that according to AI Rabbi Fishelis thinks well of the Rebbe and his teachings. Well in this matter I can do better than AI since I see him almost every day at Maariv and we lived in the same building for about 50 years. Rabbi Fishelis can’t stand Chabad..As for his opinion about the Rebbe, he never told me anything directly but he did say clearly that it’s nonsense that he was a Novi
Checkmate.To yankel berel
Thanks for the heads-up. I wasn’t aware of this thread.
To the group
Just want to set the record straight. Yaakov Yosef A is obviously obsessed with me. He claims that his ire is caused by what I’ve said about the Rebbe, but he’s lying. I joined a different thread in June on order to bring attention to what Rav Aaron Feldman said about Manis Friedman. For some reason he took offense at.my post and tried to cut it down arguing that he wasn’t interested in the subject . When others chose to weigh in on the topic he left the thread but not before intimating that I’m crazy. He disappeared for a few weeks and then returned to bring nothing to the table but irrational attacks against me. I could care less what this or any psychotic days about me. What’s noteworthy is that there are people who try to stifle honest discussions about Chabad.
Thanks YB. I didn’t know about that thread. You come to rescue me again.
To the group
To borrow from the Rebbe, “I’ve done all I can to keep this thread going but now I give it over to you.”
To Philosopher
You’re certainly correct that Manis is a Kofer but what must be understood is that whetever he and other Lubavitchers say is a reflection of Chabad theology. They believe that the Rebbe considered every Jew to be a perfect Tzaddik simply by virtue of birth and so the concept of sin and punishment no longer exists. And that’s why they fight so hard against the Gemara which says that only 1/300,000 will be redeemed by Moshiach.
To Sechel
I was in the Chabad Shul this morning and the Rabbi spoke about doing Tshuvah (I learn Gemara while he speaks but I hear him). Now according to Manis the Kofer why should anyone do Tshuvah? Of course, anyone reading this can weight in.
To non-political
I have good news for you. I’m offering you a reprieve, a get out of jail free card so you don’t have to admit you were wrong, something you’re not able to do because of your Gaavah. I owe you a debt of gratitude because when Nope was harassing me you set him straight and he disappeared. So we’re good now. So let’s get this thread back on its tracks. BTW, don’t ever mess with me again.
To non-political
I’ll reiterate my request. Why do you criticize me implying that I’m the instigator? Go through the thread and you’ll see what happened. I introduced the fact that Rabbi Feldman called Manis Friedman a Kofer. Yaakov Yosef A took offense at my post and rebuked me but I ignored him. When others challenged him for rejecting what Rabbi Feldman said he left the thread but not before telling me I need a Refuah Shleimah. He then left for a while and resurfaced on this thread(we started in the Religious Zionism is heresy thread) a few weeks later and continued his vendetta. That’s when I decided to Qwerty him. Check it out. If what I’m saying is untrue you can prove it.
To non-political
Why did you only criticize me? If you read through the thread you’ll see that he started attacking me as soon as I showed up and it was totally unprovoked.
To philosopher
Welcome back. Manis is much worse than a Kofer. He’s a Chotei Umachtei. People listen to his garbage and think it’s actually Torah.