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To SQUARE_ROOT

You’re right about defending Modern Orthodoxy but much of the Chareidi world thinks that there’s a Heter to slander MO’s. This is classic Yetzer hora.

To RCM

Please explain what you mean by Loshon Hora. From my experience most people who cry Loshon Hora have no concept of the subject.

To DaMoshe and Chief Smerel

Thank you for standing up to the lunatic who calls himself Gornit. . I decided not to comment about him until someone called him o ut. About a year ago I wrote on VIN that Rav Aharon Feldman called Manis Friedman a Kofer. This lunatic who called himself BMG guy attacked me for insulting Manis who he considers ta modern day Berdivicher RRebbe. When he saw that I wouldn’t back down he increased his hate rhetoric by inventing lies. Of course, there is no lawsuit. Ofr course I don’t work on Shabbos. Of course I love and respect all Gedolim . I only criticize Cghabad because it’s a false religion. The re4ason he loves Chabad is because he’s no longer an observant Jew and so he accepts what Manis said that no sinner today can be punished. That;s why he thinks it’s safe to lie about me in public. Obviously, he’shas no Chwelik in Olanm Habo, but I don’t think he even cares about that. He called my office and tried to convince my wife to divorce me. To chief shmere. No we don’t know each other. I was never his dentist. He’s simply insane and he thinks that the poters on YWN are idiots who will believe his lies. Thank you. Hashem should bless you. It5’s only a matter of time before Hashem deals with him. He is a prime example of the damage that Chabad is causing with it s lies. Hashem is still watching us at all times and no one gets away with anything. He’s going to find that ourt and I hope to see my Nekama for this yemach shemo.

To the group

Chaya Mushka reminds me of a story. In 2003 I started attending a YI which had a Chbad Rabbi. At the time I knew nothing about Chabad. In Jan 2004 it was my father’s Yahrrtzeit, Yud Shevat. The Rabbi’s eyes lit up, and he told me that I have to become Chabad. I had no idea what he was talking about. Chabad believes that all Jews must convert to their false religion so that the Rebbe can be our L-rd and Savior. It’s the truth.

To ??coffee addict

I was told by a Lubavicher that he also attended the funeral of a woman who was murdered when she refused to allow herself to be raped. But here’s the issue, how can he not show up to the funeral of the Gadol Hador? Does the Torah not apply to him? The answer is that the Torah meant nothing to him and that’s why he rejected the Gemara when it went against his agenda. He felt that he was above the religion and could change it when he felt it was to his benefit.

To always

Rabbi Soleveitchik had a perfectly good reason for not attending, he didn’t know about it, but the Rebbe had no reason. I presented a theory. He viewed himself as the Melech Yisrael and so he couldn’t attend anyone’s funeral. Am I correct? It’s only a theory, but it has some validity. My Rov said that Schneersohn’s Gaavah was so great he convinced himself that he’s G-d.

To Ex-CTLawyer

Yes, you’re correct. The question is why someone who purported to be an observant Jew would ignore such an important Mitzvah.

To always

Nevuah is now calling for the overthrow of the Yeshiva system, which is in line with his previous call to overthrow the Shidduch system, and we can only guess what system he plans to remake next. You challenged me for criticizing him, so I’ll explain myself. Nevuah wants the end of elitism in the Yeshiva world. To that point he quoted Vayikra19:15 which says that one should not show partiality to the poor nor defer to the wealthy. This lying Kofer then said that this Posuk proves that it’s prohibited to favor the wealthy. But the idiot fails to mention that it also forbids bending over for the poor. He ignored that part because it doesn’t fit what he’s trying to prove. Are you that stupid that you can’t see through his deception? Methinks that you’re a contrarian and so you’re attracted to his lies and Kefirah.

To ashergg

Your proof is rock solid, but you won’t get through to these fools. George Harrison had a line from one of his Beatles’ songs called Think For Yourself, “Although your mind’s opaque, try thinking more if just for your own sake.” As Shlomo Hamelech said, “There’s no hope for a fool who is wise in his own eyes.”

To the group

It’s fitting that we’re having this discussion this week, whose Parsha is Korach. Korach, like Nevuah, wanted to end all class distinctions. We see how that worked out. Class distinctions are built into our religion. Well-adjusted people have no problem with them, but malcontents like Nevuah need to lash out at the system which he believes is as Paul McCartney, “Holding me down spinning me round and filling me up with your rules.”

To ujm

Like Eisav loved his brother and my name is Yaakov.

To ashergg

Well said. The problem with Nevuah is that he makes up his mind as to what he would like to believe is the truth then he cherry picks verses in the Torah to support his thesis. Obviously, that’s not how one arrives at the truth.

To Nevuah

In addition to being an atheist you’re also a communist. Yeshivas have a right to function as they see fit. If we follow your “logic”, then children with Down’s Syndrome would have to be allowed into mainstream Yeshivas. I understand that you see yourself as the champion of the underdog, but the overdog also has rights according to the Torah. Let’s look at one of the verses you cited; Vayikra 19:15, which says that you shall not be partial to the poor. This recognizes the rights of the wealthy. If there are individuals who want their children to go to the “best” Yeshivas, why should their wishes be ignored? Don’t people make every effort to get their kids into Ivy League schools?

To ujm

And what’s your point?

To Nevuah
You must learn how to distinguish between facts and opinions. In no way do I think that my opinion is superior to anybody else’s. Hey I wanted to turn off the TV at the half last night and go to sleep, but my son convinced me to keep watching. He was certainly correct. On the other hand, when I write on YWN i present facts and they are unassailable. Unfortunately, you can’t understand this simple concept because you think that the Torah is subject to people’s interpretation and that’s Kefirah whether you like it or not.

To??coffee addict

I think your question is right on topic. No, the Rebbe didn’t attend Rav Moshe’s levaya and it should be discussed. Schneersohn believed that he was the Melech of Israel and the Halacha is that a Melech can’t attend the funeral of a commoner, even one as great as Rav Moshe. I didn’t hear that this is the reason he didn’t show up but I’m inferring it from the following. The Rabbi of the Chabad shul I attend told me this story. The Rebbe had a relationship with Zalman Shazar who was one of the early Presidents of the State of Israel. Shazar was Lubavitch in Russia, but he became a secular Jew., but they would write to each other. On one occasion, Mr. Shazar asked the Rebbe why he didn’t address him as Nasi Yisrael and the Rebbe answered, “When I was a child starting Cheder (about 3 or 4 years old) I had a dream in which I had a vision of Moshiach. For me he’s the only person who I will call Nasi Yisrael.” In other words, after that dream the Rebbe decided he’s Moshiach and so no one else could have a title which even alludes to being the leader of Israel.

To ashergg

At what point will you finally accept that it’s pointless to continue your discussion with this atheist?

To Happy

So now Nevuah has decided that Jews are lower than gentiles because of thousands of years of inbreeding. He probably got that idea from Mein Kampf. Look what happens to a Jew when he divorces himself from the Torah.

To Koifer

The obsession with Gashmius is such stupidity. Quite a few Orthodox Jews went to the Knicks game yesterday. Assuming two friends went together they spent about 20,000 dollars. For 2000 dollars they could’ve watched the game at home on a giant TV screen with ten other friends with food from the best caterer. So why go to the game? They want to be at the4 same place as the celebrities. Hashem writes everything down. At 120 Hashem will tell them that if it was so important for you to be with Larry David in this world you can be with him in Olam Habo also.

To KCD

When I called Manis Friedman a Kofer for denying reward and punishment you argued that he didn’t mean what he said. And you also posited that Shlomo Cunin didn’t mean what he said i.e. that it’s the Rebbe who runs the world. And you’ll also suggest that the Rabbis who claim that the Rebbe is alive and is god clothed in human form, didn’t mean what they said. Finally, you write that the Rebbe didn’t mean it when he said that his predecessor was a Novi. So, the question to ask is, “How do you know what they meant?” So, you’ll say that you’re being Dan Lkaf Zchus . Here’s the problem. On page 1027 of the Gutnick Chumash, the Rebbe writes that there have been individuals who were prophets. He named Ramban, Raavad and the Besht among others. If he didn’t mean that they were actually prophets, then why say it? And your attempt to push off my statement that the Rebbe contradicted an open Gemara doesn’t wash. The Gemara in Cheilek says that only one in 300,000 Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach because the final Geulah will mirror the Geulah from Egypt. The Rebbe said that every Jew will be redeemed by Moshiach because the final Geulah will “NOT” be like the Exodus from Egypt. That’s blatant Kefirah. This has nothing to do with all Jews having a share in Olam Habo. The fact is that the Rebbe rejected an open Gemara and so he is a Kofer and therefore if he used the term Novi it’s understood that he meant it literally because he wanted to convince his stupid Chassidim that Hashem spoke to him.

To nevuah

Thank you for stating that morality makes no distinction between Jew and gentile. Now since you believe that the entire Torah is a book of morality what emerges is that you believe that Hashem gave the Torah to all people on equal footing to be judged equally. Rashi, in his first comment, in Sefer Bereishis, disagreed with you. He said that Breishes means Bishvil Reishis ie for the Jewish people who are called Reishis. So, let’s understand why Rashi along with all our other Mefarshim are correct but you are not. In fact, the Mitzvahs can be categorized into three groups. The first are Mishpatim, civil laws, or, to use your term; moral laws. These are found in all civilized societies. And it can be said that all people, Jews and gentile alike are equally bound to keep them. But then we have the second group which are called Chukim, suprarational commandments. No human being could intuit them had Hashem not given them to Moshe. While people may offer reasons, once such laws are on the books, no one could predict them. Finally, we have those Mitzvahs which speak to the origins of the Jewish people, Pesach as a prime example. As we learned in the second Perek of Pirkei Avos one may not treat one Mitzvah as superior to another and therefore all the Mitzvahs in each of the three groups must be treated with the same reverence. This is not dogma. It’s the truth, whether you like it or not.

To KiddushClubDropout

Again, I must compliment you for your menschlichkeit. This said, let me share a story. It was about three years ago on the first night of Sukkos and I was in the Chabad Shul I sometimes attend. It had been raining all that day, and the forecast was that the rain would continue into the night. In fact, it let up and so we were able to eat in the Sukkah. Someone commented, “Thank you Hashem for stopping the rain.” But he was corrected by a Lubavitcher who told him, “Hashem didn’t stop the rain, it was the Rebbe.” Truth be told, he was smiling when he said it so perhaps, he was kidding but on cue, another congregant chimed in, “Everything we have in our lives comes from the Rebbe.” To which his friend concurred, “Of course, we live in the shadow of the Rebbe.” I’m relating this because even if I’ll agree with you that Cunin didn’t mean what he said, such statements can’t be made because unsuspecting Jews will hear them and take them literally. I’ll give you another anecdote. At least five years ago a Chabad Rabbi asked me if I read Dr. Berger’s book When I told him yes, he asked me to tell him something from the book. I shared with him that Dr. Berger said that 8 senior Chabad Rabbis from Oholei Torah said that the Rebbe was god clothed in human form. This Rabbi responded, “But everyone knows that. I can prove it. We know that every Jew contains a spark of Elokus, and Rashi said that Moshe Rabbeinu had all the sparks of all 600,000 Jews at that time. Now since the Rebbe is the Moshe Rabbeinu of our Dor, he has all the sparks of every Jew who ever lived and when you add up all these sparks they equal Hashem.” If you don’t see that Chabad has deified the Rebbe, you’re simply blind. But I like you so let’s continue the discussion.

To Koifer Blkur

You ask a good question, and the answer is that nothing can be done about it. We can rail against materialism, but those who have money fuel the Mosdos and so no one is going to tell them what to do. And we can tell shadchanim that they should put a premium on menschlichkeit, but it will go in one ear and out the other. Your question explains why I don’t get involved in these discussions because it just leads to people venting their frustration with the system. You can’t fight city hall, so s person just has to find a happy medium in his own life.

To Pekak

Thank you for your post. Obviously, it’s ridiculous to discuss Kiruv on intermarried couples.

To Kiddushclub

“All lies in jest still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.” Would you like to comment on the fact that the Rebbe called his father-in-law a Novi? And would you care to comment on Manis Friedman’s statement that no Jew today can be punished no matter what sin he does.?

To KiddushClubDropout
Since you wrote respectfully to me, I will respond in kind. The Lubavitcher Rebbe had several positions which were at serious odds with accepted Torah norms. First, he claimed that the Friediger Rebbe was a Novi which flies in the face of the rule that Nevuah will not return to the Jewish people until Moshiach comes. And it’s based on that statement that most, if not all Lubavitchers, wrongly believe that Schneersohn was also a Novi. Second, and this is IMHO, more important, Schneersohn rejected the Gemara in Cheilek which said that only a small percentage of Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach. He famously stated that, in fact, Moshiach will redeem every Jew. This is critical because it’s at the heart of Chabad doctrine. As far as Chabad is concerned every Jew will be saved and so they’ll try to be Mikarev the Woody Allens of the world. Any study of Judaism makes it clear that Hashem is constantly weeding out the Jewish people. It began in Mitzrayim during the 9th plague and it continues to this day. Next, when I say that Lubavitchers have no concept of Hashem I know whereof I speak. Rabbi Shlomo Cunin, chief Chabad Rabbi of California, stated in a YouTube video in 2008 that it’s the Rebbe who runs the world and he will take us out of Golus. I can cite many more such anecdotal evidence if you request. I have no doubt that the Rebbe kept the laws of Judaism meticulously as do “all” his Chassidim, but his and their belief system has nothing to do with mainstream Judaism. As for your statement that what Chabad does, in reaching out to the disenfranchised isn’t a waste of time and money. I can agree with that point, but I said that in response to the posters who are making ridiculous claims that Chabad is trying to make millions of Jews frum. Finally, with regard to your statement that Chabad doesn’t play fast and loose with Halacha. There’s a Friday night Chabad “minyan” in my apartment building. I generally do not attend it, but last Friday night circumstances forced me to go. The “minyan” consisted of the Rabbi, his two adult sons, yours truly and one other Shomer Shabbos. The others were all following the Met game on their cell phones. Sorry, that’s not Halacha. And that’s not out of the norm. They make things up to meet the expediency of the moment.

To ashergg

I agree and disagree with you. First, I agree with you that getting a person to come closer to Hashem, even if it doesn’t lead to him becoming frum is of great value. Therefore, I would never dismiss Chabad’s efforts. The problem is that getting a Mechallel to put on Tefillin in almost all cases doesn’t get him to come closer to Hashem. The case you cited is the exception that proves the rule. Moreover, as I said to KCD, I’m trying to battle the lie in this thread that Chabad is performing mass Kiruv, That’s total rubbish.

To always

The source you asked for is from the Book of Ezra. Ezra ordered those who had married gentiles to divorce their wives and stay away from the children of those unions, if they wanted to be part of the Jewish nation. Nothing has changed. If an intermarried couple comes for the Chabad Chanukah party, the next day they’ll go to a different party. Hameivin Yavin.

To RebEmes

Chabd has taught that anything goes but the only thing that goes is our Torah.

To lakewhut

Chabad does not have yeshivas all over the globe, they have Chabad houses. Don’t conflate the two.

To rebEmes

The people who support Chabad generally don’t give their money to Torah causes. Let me share a story. I used to attend a Young Israel which had a Chabad Rabbi. When I showed up, he made me Gabbai and told me that I can’t give an Aliyah to a certain fellow because he’s a Kohen married to a divorcee. A year after I left the Shul, I discovered that two of the congregants, who regularly received Aliyahs were married to Goyim. The Rabbi didn’t tell me because they were Russian Jews and Chabad’s main target is Russians so he was afraid that they’d leave if they didn’t get Aliyahs. Chabad plays all kinds of games with Halacha. BTW, if you check out VIN today the psycho BMG guy is after me again. He’s used 13 aliases so far. My crime is that I took a mild shot at Chabad.

To Always

You are a liar and a fool. American Jews aren’t “assimilating” they have “assimilated” Eighty percent are intermarried. There is no Mitzvah to perform Kiruv on an intermarried couple. I’m not criticizing Chabad for doing so, because they’re following Schneersohn’s orders, but let’s not praise them for throwing out millions upon millions of dollars on Jews who are spiritually dead. Don’ try to con anyone that Chabad gets intermarrieds to become frum. No one is buying that lie.

To Happy New Year

You nailed it.

To ashergg

I give you credit for dealing with Nevuah. You seem to have tamed the wild beast, because he’s actually showing some sign of humanity. Keep up the good work. You’re proving me wrong and I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong.