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To the group
My father AH liked to tell this joke, “What’s the definition of Chutzpah? Someone kills his father and mother and then asks the court for mercy because he’s an orphan.” Well we now present Nope who takes that several steps further. In the thread he mentioned above about Religious Zionism Nope admitted that he not only tried to convince me to be Mechallel Yom Kippur but he urged me to take a video of myself eating treif on that day and to send it to him for his viewing delight. This is an example of his depravity. And now he hopes to “prove” that I’m a liar so the posters will reject my comments. Last year Menachem Shmei begged the moderators not to print my posts. Now this. Chabad and it’s acolytes are deathly afraid of me. I take that as a compliment. It means that my message is coming through. Oh yeah Checkmate.
To the group
Nope is correct in stating that Rabbi Feldman didn’t call Me ace a Kofer, rather he stated that his statements were heretical. So we’ll focus on the statements. One the belief that G-d has human attributes, to be precise as per Menace, “G-d d needs us more than we need him.” Then we have Menace statement that G-d sounds like a monster for creating sins and getting angry at man for committing them. Finally we have the statement from Menace that no person can be punished no matter what he does because of the bitter exile. According to Rabbi Feldman these statements are heresy, but Nope does not accept what Rabbi Feldman said because he believes that Rabbi Feldman was obligated to call Menace and ask him to explain what he meant. The problem with that suggestion is that Rabbi Efren Goldberg interviewed Menace and asked him how he could say that G-d has needs and Menace said that this is his opinion and he won’t change it. Checkmate.
To yankel berel
Yo reference the Dvar Malchus of 5751 but I think that the Rebbe’s plans go much farther back. We’re constantly told that when he was beginning Cheder he had a vision of Moshiach. I think that it was at that point he decided he was destined to rule the world.
To ARSo
Beautifully said. Menace isn’t a Kofer because Rabbi Feldman said he is, he’s a Kofer because he wants to change a fundamental principle of Judaism. I’d like to apologize for the things I said to you last year. Please be Mochel me. We’re on the same team and our “Coach” is Hashem’s Torah.
To Nope
I’d like to thank you for telling the truth. You’re more than welcome to join the discussion. And I don’t mind if you use your tactics on me. They keep me on my toes.
To yankel berel
I wouldn’t worry about being called an Apikorus by Chabad. Menace said that no Jew can be punished anymore.
To Sechel
You didn’t answer my question but that’s all right. I’ll address your comment. According to Menace no Jew can be punished today because Hashem is merciful. Okay, so we have a Rabbi in a Yeshiva who’s a serial child molester. According to Menace Hashem won’t punish him because He’s merciful. But what about the victims? Why isn’t Hashem merciful to them? Checkmate.
To Sechel
I have a serious question. I know that Chabad “learns” Pirkei Avos so how do you understand Mishna 3:1 in which Aka ya Ben Mehallalel says, Know three things and you won’t come to sin?” The third thing is that a person has to give Din VCheshbon when he leaves the world. So do you reject this also?
To yankel berel and non-political
It looks like our work is done with regard to demonstrating that the entire Chabad religion is a house of lies. What must be done next is to reach out to Jews who are on the fence. Most people are all or nothing that is they love or hate Chabad. As evidenced by the fact that I Daven in a Chabad shul I take a middle approach. I recognize and appreciate the good that Chabad does but I can’t ignore it’s idolatry. When I showed up Yaakov Yosef A quickly left the thread saying farewell with the perfunctory Refuah Shleimah. Such Jews are afraid of the truth and it’s very hard to reach them.
To yankel berel
Your point that they hide the fact that they have a different belief system is spot on. They do this because their ultimate goal is to rule all Jews. Obviously if they announced that they no longer accept Rambam or the Gemara that would force the foolish Rabbis who praise Chabad to abandon them. Therefore Sechel has to try to make it sound like Menace isn’t a Kofer but of course he is.
To Sechel
Rabbi Feldman is a Godol and so he learned far more Torah than Menace the Maniac. Please provide a source for Menaces’s contention that Schar Veonesh would stop applying after 2000 years of Golus. Is it in the Shulchan Aruch? Is it in the Gemara? No the Kofer made it up just like the Kofer Schneerson made up that all Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach. The most appropriate name for your false religion is Koferism.
To Sechel
So you’re saying that you know more than a Godol Israel. Is that correct?
To Sechel
Why do you care about what Rabbi Feldman said? When you tell us that the Chabad Rabbis made a Psak real Jews don’t care. Your Rabbis aren’t our Rabbis and our Rabbis aren’t your Rabbis. And that’s why you can reject what Rambam said. What you guys like to do you is cherry pick statements from Chazan that seem to support your agenda. That’s exactly what the Christians did. It’s a free country. You can believe what you want, but no real Jew accepts those beliefs.
To Sechel
You make a good point. The bumper stickers should read “Hashem wants every Yid.” But the reason that Rabbi Feldman, who is a Godol called Menace Friedman a Kofer is not only because of that statement. Friedman said that no Jew can be punished no matter what he does. This is a denial of Schar Veonesh. Before Nope attacks me for saying that Rabbi Feldman didn’t call him a Kofer he called him a Bor Brishus Harabim. Fine but he also said that Menaces statements were heresy. Nice to have you back I like you even though you’re wrong.
To the group
I’m absolutely amazed that Nope confirmed the story I reported last week. He even conceded that he urged me to commit this heinous Aveirah and to send him a video to prove my guilt. If this doesn’t say all you need to know about Nope you can fill in the rest.
To always ask
You make a good point except for one thing. Lubavitchers make a yearly Siyum on Rambam but that doesn’t mean that they” learn” Rambam. What I mean is they turn the pages but since they reject many of Rambam’s fundamental principles it’s not called learning. Menace Friedman rejects Rambam’s 3rd principle of faith that G-d is incorporeal and has no human attributes by stating that He needs us more than we need Him. And Rambam gave clear-cut criteria for Moshiach which Chabad rejects because it refutes their ridiculous claim that Schneerson is Moshiach.
To yankel berel
I heard Butman’s son definitely declare on his Saturday night program that the Rebbe is a Novi. This is one of Chabad’s big lies that they keep repeating to themselves and for the general public.
To the group
I didn’t plan to share this tidbit but Nope’s latest post in which he tries to portray me as a monster and himself as an innocent victim who was dragged against his will to YEN is just too much. Over a year ago on VIN Nope was spouting Menace Friedman’s Kefirah that no one can be punished no matter what sin he does. Nope wasn’t quoting Menace this is his Shitah which leads me to believe that he’s Chabad..In any event I said to him, “Are you guaranteeing that if I eat a pork sandwich on Yom Kippur that nothing will happen to me? ” Fe said yes. So I figured I’d have fun with him and I told him I’d do it. This psychotic sent me his contact information and told me to make a video of myself performing the act and then I should send it to him. I kid you not people. He can deny it but Hashem knows the truth. BTW have you ever seen Nope or any other Lubavicher use the word Hashem? Checkmate
To yankel berel
Your point in the June 23rd post is worth commenting on ie that Chabad expansion is gradual. Basically, the two sides are in trench warfare and neither can move the either. What results is name-calling but nothing substantive. Perhaps I can change the equation. When Rabbi Butman had his radio program he would often say that when Moshiach comes there won’t be any more Shnayim Ochzin Bitallis. Then he’d explain, “Yes there will be Shnayim Ochzin Bitallis” but only the Kabbalistic understanding. When I said this over to a Rav he rejected it arguing that every aspect of Torah is eternal..Next let’s consider the following. About two years ago I was arguing with a Lubavicher on VIN. I told him that it’s ridiculous to believe the Rebbe is Moshiach because he didn’t meet Rambam’s criteria. He responded, “Rambam is a Posek on planet earth but Chabad exists in the world of Yechida and we don’t follow Rambam in our world.” Next we come to Manic Friedman who said that G-d needs us more than we need Him.” So this is at odds with Rambam’s e 3rd fundamental of faith. But now it makes sense. They don’t think that his rules apply any more. Finally we consider statements made by Menachem Shmei and others on YWN. They’d say outlandish things and then tell us to study their sources. What emerges is that we have 2 different belief systems and neither side will budge. I hope that this will lead to open discussion rather than worthless epithets.
To Nope
When I said that Rabbi Miller’s view isn’t Halacha what I meant is the following. Rabbi Miller said that anyone with a TV has no Cheilek in Olam Habo and there is no arguing on this point. I simply mentioned Rabbi Fishelis to demonstrate that Rabbi Miller’s statement wasn’t factual but I certainly acknowledge that many great Rabbis are anti TV. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain what I meant.Now I’d like to ask you two questions. First, since you claim not to be Chabad why do you care so much about my “vendetta”? Second, why is it that I’m the only anti- Chabad poster that you challenge? Yankel Berel is as forcefully anti-Chabad as I am. And there are quite a few others on YWN in our camp but all your rhetoric and insults are directed at me. Checkmate.
To always
I never said that there’s one opinion vis a vis TV. All I said is that Rabbi Fishelis told me it’s permitted. There are others who disagree so one can choose whom to follow. And this is true for so many Halachos.To the group
And of course Rabbi Fishelis would not only have to sign the letter but have it notarized. What a jerk. His entire existence revolves around challenging every thing I say. As you can see from here it’s not only about Chabad. He’s obsessed with me because of my writing ability. And it’s so foolish because I readily admit that he’s an outstanding writer and he knows way more Torah than I do. Of course it’s also true that he’s an inveterate liar.
To non-political
Great point. I have extensive dealings with Nope.
The great Beatles song ,” Nowhere Man” comes to mind. Doesn’t have a point of view knows not where he’s going to. Nope is a Chabad apologist. His mission is to deflect all criticisms of Chabad. So he will say anything and hope it sticks. And if it doesn’t he’ll make something else up. About seven months ago I was going back and forth with him on VIN. Some woman joined in to challenge Chabad and he immediately disappeared. Like the Shed he is he can’t tolerate a double team. Let’s stay on point.To the group including the moderators
From 1956 to 1968 there was a game show called “To Tell the Truth” in which there were 4 celebrity panelists one of whom was telling the truth about his occupation. The three contestants had to try to guess who was telling the truth. In this thread Nope and I are taking turns calling each other liars. One of us or perhaps both of us are lying. How should the posters decide. Well, on the one hand I’m forthright about who I am, a LES dentist with many close relationships to great Rabbis. Then we have Nope about whom we know nothing. He wrote to me VIN that he never reveals anything because the information will be used against him. Ask yourself what he’s hiding. Checkmate.
To ujm
Please go over to MTJ at your leisure and ask him. Unlike that lowlife Nope I don’t lie. Let’s be clear. He didn’t endorse having a TV and he surely doesn’t have one, he just said that there’s no Issue at all not even DRabonon. Let’s continue the discussion but do so in a civilized manner. BTW, Rabbi Fishelis is in Israel now. He’s stuck there because of the Matzav.
To Nope
I’ve decided not to address any of your comments directly. That begins with your latest statements. Feel free to say whatever you want. Hashem knows the truth.
To yankel berel
The pro-Chabad posters have a new game. On the other thread(Zionism is heresy) I introduced Rabbi Feldman’s attack against Manic Friedman. Two posters stated that Rabbi Feldman had no right to call Manic out because he should have met him to ask what he meant. So Chabad will say that Rav Shach didn’t really mean what he said. The “L” in Lubavich is for liar.
To ujm
He’s Rav Dovid Feinstein’s son-in-law. His word is golden and he’s universally accepted. Rabbi Miller was wrong. Case closed.
To the group
Rather than dealing with Nope let’s just consider the statements that Manic made. He called G-d a monster. He said that G-d needs us more than we need Him. He said that no Jew can be punished no matter what he does. Of course we don’t know what he meant because we didn’t call the Kofer. Nope thinks he’s fooling us. One day he’ll try to pull his Shtick on Hashem..nuff said.
To Menachem Shmei
Guilty as charged but the Kofer Manic Friedman says I can’t be punished. Lol.To non-political
He’ll say anything to get the upper hand and then he’ll deny it a day later. He’s a total Chabad fraud.
To NOPE
I’m really not interested in discussing the question of TV but I’ll just say that it came up about 2 years ago in YWN that I have a TV( I don’t have one now.) Anyway posters wanted to yar and feather me so I asked Rabbi Fishelis if it’s such a serious offense and he told me it’s absolutely permitted. So we can put this subject to rest.
To the group
Last week I asked Nope a simple question, “Do you agree with what Rabbi Feldman said about Manis Friedman?” I got back a doctoral thesis but not a yes or no answer. Instead he said that Rabbi Friedman had no right to challenge Manis until he called him to clarify what he meant. Nope opens up a can of worms. He’s now saying that when someone makes a controversial statement we can’t accept or reject it unless we first speak to the author. Sounds nice except for one problem. How do we get clarification from dead Rabbis? So this leads to “maybeism.” Maybe Rav Shach didn’t mean that the Rebbe is crazy. You get the point. Your move Nope.
To non-political
I’ve been dealing with Nope for a long time so I know where he’s coming from. He’s a Chabad apologist. He refused to say whether he’s Chabad or not so I don’t call him Chabad. He’s now trying to cover up for Manc Friedman. Rabbi Feldman called him a Kofer for stating publicly that today no Jew can be punished no ma what he does. This is a clear denial of the principle of Schar Veonesh, so Nope twists what Rabbi Feldman said so that he’s not really saying he’s a Kofer and that Rabbi Feldman was obligated to call Manic and have him clarify what he meant. Another statement of Manic Friedman is that Mitzvahs are not commandments which must be kept rather they’re nice things which we do to fulfill G-d”s needs. So Manic holds that G-d d has needs literally which is also Kefirah. To this point Nope cited a Rashi which says that G-d has needs. Nope is very skilled at twisting and cherry picking statements from Chazan to cover up for Chabad. The simple and correct Pshat is that Manic is a Kofer. Similarly Cumin is a Kofer for stating that the Rebbe runs the world. This is part of the Chabad playbook. When they say he’s Moshiach it doesn’t mean they think he’s Moshiach. When they say he’s god clothed in human form they don’t mean that. Nope is clever but he’s a liar Good luck dealing with him.
,To yankel berel
Now that we’ve proven that L Rebbe wasn’t a Novi which lie should we work on next? How about the Rebbe is Moshiach. The son of a Chabad Rabbi offered this proof to me, “Tell me someone who’s more fit to be Moshiach.” This is how ridiculous their false religion is. The problem is not so much the Lubavitchers but the fools who defend their lies and Kefirah.
To Non-political
About ten years ago I called YU and asked the voice on the other end if I could speak to Dr. Berger. It was Dr. Berger. We spoke for about a half hour. He was delightful..I told him that Boteach wrote an essay in which he said that the Rebbe’s goal was to rule the world. I thought Boteach was nuts for saying it but Dr. Berger told me that the Rebbe spoke on numerous occasions about conquering the world. I’m not an alarmist. My eyes are open and I know what Chabad is all about and it ain’t good. My Rov said, “The Rebbe’s Gaavah was so big he convinced himself that he’s god.” As you can tell I’m very reasonable. I listen to and respect other opinions even if they differ from mine, but I don’t tolerate liars. They know who they are and I always expose them for the trash they are.
To ujm
Shlomo Hamelech said that there’s no hope for a fool who’s right in his own eyes. This is Yaakov Yosef A. He has this idiotic line that Rabbi Feldman and I have to contact a Kofer who rejects the fundamental of Schar Veonesh and ask him to explain his view. There’s nothing to explain he’s a Chabad Kofer.
To Nope
So you agree with the Rashab (thanks for correcting me) and Rabbi Miller You obviously respect Gedolim. Does that mean you also agree with Rabbi Feldman who said Manis Friedman is a Kofer?
To Nope
I spoke to a major Posek who said that having a TV is not even an Issue DRabonon. So yes, Rabbi Miller’s position is hardly the last word. Moreover, if you agree with Rabbi Miller that owning a TV is Ain Lo Cheilek Olam Habo then how do you justify owning a computer? And if you’ll say that you only watch clean things then I’ll say I only watch news. Again, Rabbi Miller’s opinion is very far from Halacha.
To Yaakov Yosef A
You wrote, “I don’t get why people are so excited to say that there is punishment. Of course there’s punishment.” The problem is that Manis has declared that there is no punishment. Are you too stupid to understand that or do you simply refuse to accept the truth?
To Nope
Fine. If you accept Rabbi Miller’s contention that people who own TV’ s have no Cheilek in Olam Habo that means you agree that there is punishment in this world. How does this jibe with Manis Friedman ‘s position?
To Non-political
Let me share a story. A few years ago a Lubavicher Rabbi asked me if I read Dr. Berger’s book. I said yes so he asked me to share with him something from it. I told him that Dr. Berger said that 8 senior Rabbis at Oholei Torah claim that the Rebbe is god clothed in human form. The Rabbi said to me, ,”Everyone knows that.” He then “explained” it to me. We know that every Jew has a spark of Elokus. And Rashi said that Moshe was equal to all the Jews so he had all their sparks. Now the Rebbe is the Moshe of our generation so he has the sparks of every Jew who ever lived. So if you add up those sparks it equals to Hashem. So please don’t tell me that Chabad isn’t forming a ne religion..And I’ll add another point. You sound like a conventional Yeshivish Yid who trusts Gedolim. In the beginning of Dr. Berger’s book he speaks about his exchanges with Gedolim. He said they all agreed with him that Chabad was lost but they had no intention of doing anything. My guess is that they’re afraid of the lawsuit that Chabad would start if a Psak was made against them.
To Sechel
I understand where you’re coming from. As I’ve stated I have a lot of interactions with Chabad and so I know how you guys relate to each other. Is the Rebbe a Novi? Of course he’s a Novi. Does he run the world? Of course he runs the world. You’ve been lied to from the day you were born I know you won’t accept that but it’s the truth.
To ujm
I’ll try to explain where Yaakov Yosef A is coming from. He’s not interested in what Rabbi Feldman said. He has a right to that position. What he he no right is to tell others that we can’t accept what a Godol is saying. And that’s what this buffoon is trying to do. He’s also a liar having said that he’s walking away from this thread. Maybe he needs a Refuah Shleimah. Arrogant jerk that he is. If he’s so troubled by the bombings let him go to Yeshiva and get off the internet.
To Non-political
You make a valid point which I will address. It is my belief that Chabad is morphing into another religion. No one is obligated to agree with me. All I ask is that I be given the opportunity to express my opinions and to that point I thank the moderators of YWN for running this and other similar threads. To be sure there are many great Rabbis who have the same view as mine.
To always ask
There is no question that the concept of Tinok Shenishba exists. What is subject to debate is how far it can be expanded. According to NOPE every irreligious Jew is automatically a Tinok Shenishba even if he was originally from and walked away from the religion under no duress. Please feel free to ask more questions, Unlike NOPE I will respond with honest answers.
To yankel berel
Let’s not be too tough on Sechel. The more he writes the more he exposes Chabad as a false religion . So let’s not scare him off like we did to Menachem Shmei.
To the group
Nope quotes a Rashi that would imply that Hashem has needs. Rambam states clearly that G-d has no human characteristics. When the Torah says things like He gets angry etc it must be understood anthropomorphically. Checkmate.
To ujm
You did a great job calling out that jerk. He has no interest one way or the other. Yes, all he wants to do is make nasty comments about the other posters. Hopefully he’ll keep his word and get off this thread. You’ll notice that he never addresses any point directly. This is also Nope’s MO. Yes, Friedman is a Kofer. Not because I say so or because Rabbi Feldman says so, but because he’s trying to undermine the principles of our religion.
To Nope
On YWN postersare expected to answer questions that they’re asked. You, of course, are a VIN weasel and ignored my question. So I’ll repeat it. Do you agree with the Raystz who called religious Zionists Kofrim? And do you agree with Rabbi Miller who said that one who has a TV has no Cheilek in Olam Habo?
To non-political
You’re right. Avraham Avinu taught us that we must mock idolatry. Chabad is an idolatrous religion. Don’t you agree Nope? Of course you do. That’s why you switched to our Wonderful site. I’m sure you have a bunch of anti-Rebbe zingers. Can’t wait to hear them.
To non-political
How dare you suggest that the Rebbe could ever be wrong?
To the group
Nope harassed me when I wrote on VIN. His thing was trying to convince me that Alan Dershowitz is a Tinok Shenishba. He quoted the Chazan Ish that every Jew today is a Tinok Shenishba. I told him that the Chazan Ish was talking about Jews with no religious background. He said I’m right and then changed it that Rav Kook would call him a Tinok Shenishba. Now he goes back to the Chazan Ish. Filthy liar. The first letter of Lubavic is an L it’s for liar. All Lubavitchers along with those who defend them are despicable liars.
To Nope
Yes I hold that Toras Qwerty is bigger than all other Torahs because my Torah is logical and because I speak to a vast array of great Rabbis who agree with what I say. You seem to think that you can quote some Rabbi out of context and think you’ve won the argument. I reject many statements made by Rabbonim as do you. I’m sure you don’t agree with the Raystz who said that all Zionists are Kofrim because that means they have no Cheilek in Olam Habo and you agree with Manis Hamishugah that no Jew can be You’re a Chabad sympathizer so you have the same Din as Friedman the atheist.
To somejewiknow
You misunderstood my exchange with Nope. According to that atheist every Mechallel Shabbos is a Tinok Shenishba even if he was raised frum and chose to leave the religion. I told him that’s garbage so he told me that Rav Kook said so. I told him today that if he wants to follow Rav Kook that’s his right but I don’t. Please read the post again and you’ll see that’s what I wrote.
To Sechel
Why don’t you provide the names of the signers on that Psak Din? I know why. Because 90 percent of them are named Menachem Mendel.
To Sechel
You’re conflating predictions and prophecies. If someone predicted that the stock market would crash and it did he isn’t a prophet. To be a Novi one must state that Hashem told him etc. Since this never happened the Rebbe’s predictions are irrelevant.