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For all those that yell at those who use the eruv – do you have Shabbos clocks on your air conditioners? Rav Moshe T’zal, only allowed Shabbos clocks on lights. His family still does not use Shabbos clocks.
What happened to ‘u-sh’martem es nof-sho-se-chem’? As a Hatzoloh member, it is not fun being called to a teenager that was drunk, fell off a stoop, and ended up with a cracked skull, or to a mother who found her young teenage son unconscious on the living room floor, to find out in the hospital that he had alcohol poisoning. When she made inquiries of his friends, she was told that every rebbe they visited gave them all different types of alcoholic drinks.
have a frielichin and safe Purimcoffee addict: Told the judge that being a observant Jew (sitting there with a yalmulka), I would need to leave on Fridays no later than 1:30 pm. His response: “No need to worry. This court closes at noon on Fridays.” (Found out later, he was also Shomer Shabbos.)
When I was growing up, (B”H I’m in my mid-70’s now), we never heard the word ‘frum’. The word that was used was ‘erlich’. It meant that the person could be trusted in ANY situation. You didn’t have many erhlich people sitting in jail. but today, unfortunately there are many frum people sitting in jail.
In the 1940’s, orthodox Jewish lawyers did not wear their yamulkas at work and definitely not in court. A lawyer I knew that was working on the legal papers to establish BMG in Lakewood, was to have a meeting with Rav Kotler. The meeting was to be in the lawyer’s office. The lawyer was in a quandary – does he or does he not, wear his yamulka? The Rosh Yeshiva is coming to his office. When the Rosh Yeshiva entered the office and saw the lawyer with his yamulka, he told the lawyer, “If you wear the yamulka in the office all the time, fine. If you’re wearing it because the Rosh Yeshiva is here, take it off”.
To AviraDeArah: You stated, “Re, rav avigdor miller…to claim he has any relation to YU when he repeatedly bashed MO (he was one of my early influences…im insulted for his kovod) is ludicrous. His YI became a shul of mevakshei Hashem. He raised the mechitzah at night; many left but he didn’t care. He denounced an announcement that a kiddush was being made at a conservative temple, and said “we will not mention conservative temples in this shul”, many more left… He didn’t care. He also changed the name eventually to Bais yisroel of rugby when he moved.”
He didn’t change the name of the Young Israel of Rugby. He didn’t ‘own’ it. It belonged to the National Council of Young Israel. When he moved to Flatbush, he opened his own shul/Bais Medrash and named it ‘Bais Yisroel of Rugby’.
Several years ago I heard a story about a rov from New York, that would not daven in a Young Israel. Yet when one of his neighbors met him in California (don’t know where in California) davening in a Young Israel, the neighbor asked him why he was davening here in a Young Israel but won’t in New York? The rov answered that out of New York I know that a Young Israel will have a ‘kosher minyan’. In New York, I have many shuls that have a ‘kosher’ minyan, not to say that the Young Israels in New York don’t have ‘kosher’ minyanim.
At age 14, Rabbi Miller went to New York City to attend Yeshivas Rabbenu Yitzchok Elchonon, at the time the only American high school offering high-level Jewish learning. After this, he enrolled in Yeshiva College. He graduated from both Yeshiva University (YU) and Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary (RIETS), attaining a B.A. and rabbinical ordination, respectively.
AviraDeArah:
“To add to the list of problems: many, if not most MO people do not believe fully in Hashem running the world. They believe that the holocaust happened because of racism, hatred, etc, and do not acknowledge that it was Hashem who did it.”Where did you get this from?
AviraDeArah: “To add to the list of problems: many, if not most MO people do not believe fully in Hashem running the world. They believe that the holocaust happened because of racism, hatred, etc, and do not acknowledge that it was Hashem who did it.”
Where did you get this from?
AviraDeArah:
“YI was not founded by modern orthodoxy, though most of its members and rabbis are such. That being said YI didn’t “produce” rabbonim – yeshivos did. They may have guided some young men and encouraged them to progress, but there is a limit if one’s entire Jewish experience is just young Israel.”YI was founded by a group of people that wanted a shul where money couldn’t buy aliyos, and young people were included. Where they grew up in the shteibles, they weren’t allowed to daven for the Amud, get an aliyah, etc. They felt left out.
A number of the Rabbanim I referred to earlier, became b’aale teshuva because they went to the Young Israel Talmud Torah and then to the ‘then’ modern orthodox yeshivos. Some of them went to co-ed yeshivos. Today, they are respected Rabbonim and Roshei Yeshivos.
Just a little bit of history:
1. Rabbi Avigdor Miller was the Rov of the YOUNG ISRAEL OF RUGBY from 1945 through 1975. He then moved to Flatbush due to the changing demorgraphics of the neighborhood.
2. Rabbi Miller got his degree from YU and his simicha from RIETS.
3. Some of the men in his learning group included Nosson Meir Wachtfogel, Yehuda Davis, and Mordechai Gifter. They all went on to become notable Haredi rabbis in their own right.From these points we see that a person is not shaped just by the shul he attends, nor just by the yeshiva he attends. It is shaped by entire environment and people that surround them.
When people today are asked why they wear, for example, a black hat, they reply that it is the mesorah from Europe. Look back at pictures of our gedolim when they were in Europe. Rav Moshe, ZATZAL, was pictured wearing grey hats. Men & bochrim wore caps, not hats.
Look back at pictures of the yearly dinners (1950 – 1970) held by the big yeshivos in Brookyn, and you will see that there was mixed seating.
Why has the Young Israel/YU/MO bashing started again? Maybe this is why Moshiach hasn’t come yet.
1. I was born into a YI shul. My father, O”H, was one of the founding members. This shul has produced several prominent Rabbanim that are all looked up to in their communities/yeshivas, (and if I dare say so, these are well known ‘yeshivish’ yeshivas), and a Rav that founded a very well known Kiruv organization and yeshiva.
2. A Young Israel that I davened in when I was married, produced a Rav that runs a very well known seminary in Israel.
3. The next Young Israel that I davened in produced 6 Rabbonim, (that I know of), who are all well known Roshei Yeshivos here in the U.S. and in Israel.
4. Awhile back, could be 10 – 15 years ago or more, when there was a lot of Young Israel bashing, a Rov at the Agudah Convention, from the podium, stated that this Young Israel bashing has got to stop. If it wasn’t for the Young Israel movement, we wouldn’t be sitting here today in our black hats and black suits.
4. It also depends on how you address the differences. Several years ago, a boy who was having a problem with his ‘yddishkeit’ came to shul, a Young Israel where I have been davening for the last 30 years, wearing shorts, and his tzitzes were hanging out from his t-shirt. One older gentleman who saw him, said to his friend, look at how so-and-so’s son comes to shul. What a shanda. His friend answered him, but he is coming to daven with a minyan. Today this boy is ‘yeshvish’. You wouldn’t believe it was the same boy.
5. I recently heard a clip, I forgot from which Rav, about a yeshivisha gentleman in Israel getting into a cab, and saying to the secular driver, Good morning, Achi”. The driver looked at him and said, we are not brothers. Look at you and look at me. The yeshivisha fellow said that there was a teacher that taught us that we are all brothers. The cab driver asked who that teacher was. The yeshivasha gentleman answered, “Hitler”. The cab driver stopped the car and hugged him.
6. Maybe, if we tolerate each other, and don’t denigrate each other because have different minhagim, Moshiach will come sooner, B’Ezras HaShem.To coffee addict: i get the same glitches when I download it from chrome, on my phone.
*Message from Councilman Chaim Deutsch:*
I have received many concerned calls regarding tonight’s curfew, which is beginning at 8pm. I have been in touch with police officials to express concerns about the curfew limiting people’s ability to attend maariv or the mikvah. Cops will be instructed to allow for religious obligations and not issue summonses.If you should face an issue during curfew that requires my intervention, please immediately contact Flatbush Shomrim (718-338-9797), who will refer these calls directly to me. If you have any questions, contact me directly at [email protected].
My Rav already sent emails that mincha will be at 6:33 (before plag) and maariv right after plag.
If it doesn’t say PAREVE anywhere on the label – no problem. If it does say O-U PAREV, then there might be a problem. Could it be that the amount of casein is so minute that it’s batal ?
If it does not say PAREV, then I don’t see a problem. If it says PAREV, I’m guessing that the amount of casein is so minute, that it is batal b’shishim.
to YYser: Was it a bill from Hatzoloh that you then sent to your insurance company or was it an Explanation of Benefits that your insurance company sends you every month to show you whom they paid?
As an aside, if you call 911 and a city ambulance takes you to the hospital, 911 bills your insurance company. It is NOT a free ride. So many people think a 911 ambulance is ‘free’ and are shocked when they see their Explanation of Benifits that shows that the insurance company paid them and/or when they receive a bill from the city for the co-copay. As I have already stated, I and my family members have never received a bill from Hatzoloh for the co-pay.
As I’ve said previously, from my own experience and knowledge, insurance companies do NOT bill patients for their co-pay. The provider (doctor, hospital, ambulance company) bills the patient for the co-pay that the insurance company doesn’t pay. I have never received a bill from Hatzoloh for my co-pay, and neither have any of my relatives. We know that the insurance companies did pay Hatzoloh, because it was listed on our monthly Explanation of Benefits. I would like to hear from anyone who has received a bill from any division of Hatzoloh.
Copays are billed by the doctor or hospital, directly to the patient. The insurance company does not bill the patient. The doctor or hospital, or in this case, the ambulance company (Hatzoloh), will bill the patient if they want to collect the copay. I have received bills for the copay from doctors and hospitals, but never from Hatzoloh.
It is unfortunate that people think that their being late for a minyan or, when out shopping, and they can’t find a parking spot, that they are allowed to inconvience someone else by blocking their driveway. Their davening is worthless because they ‘stole time’ (gezel z’man), which can’t be repaid. Several years ago, I actually found a car parked IN my driveway and I couldn’t leave for work. After spending some time knocking on doors, and therefore being late for work, I found the owners of the car. They were ‘frum’ Israelis visiting someone and didn’t understand that what they did was wrong.
I have also witnessed (‘frum’) people blocking driveways that had cars in them. One driveway had a car that anyone could plainly see was a Hatzoloh car, but they blocked the driveway, anyway.
Don’t even get me started on the people running to catch their minyan and putting the neighborhood in sakanah by parking at a fire hydrant.Sorry, but you cannot dictate which type of police officer you want in your neighborhood and how they are to do their job.
Joseph: Open your eyes and get your head out of the sand. More and more people are using the eruv. Go out for a walk on a nice Shabbos afternoon, or go to your local park on a nice Shabbos afternoon. I am not saying that everyone is using the eruv, but more and more people are. There are more people pushing strollers and more people who are unfortunately in wheelchairs, being pushed by family members. I also see more people than ever before carrying their tallesim to shul. These people range from those wearing a ‘srugie’ to those wearing strimmels.
“What issue do you guys have with just admitting that only MO people hold of the eruv?”
When was the last time you were in Flatbush on a Shabbos? I see ‘yeshivish’, (black hat, white shirt) men and many chassidim using the eruv.a. Rav Moshe ZT”L stated in his teshuva that there are rabbonim that are matir the eruv and that he is a daaqs yochid.
b. To all those who yell and scream about others who use the eruv: Do you use a Shabbos clock? Rav Moshe was against them, and his grandchildren do not use them.