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@ GadolHadofi,
You know what’s even more sickening?
The unbridled hatred you contain for them, despite not being able to point out one halacha they have transgressed.
However much some of us may disagree with their tactics/methods/hashkafa etc, there is no one halacha that they have clearly been in transgression of.
Even the signs they wear on marches/protests they attend on Shabbat, is not a clear violation of halacha, as arguably (yes not clear but arguably) it is a grey area as they are wearing them literally, but it isn’t really clothing, so it is unclear.What Torah (not nationalistic hegelical 18th century anti-Semitic zionism) perspective can you offer that would warrant your unbridled hatred to them, that can only be matched by some of the worst anti-Semites in history?
And if you want to go saying hitchabrut L’resha’im, than go take a look in the mirror.
To support, speak fondly of, describe in a positive term -people- and policies/politics that seek the destruction and replacement of Judaism, is what is real mitchaber L’Resha’im.The reason why some would come out and display what you would term as support for NK is the horrible and disgusting unwarranted hatred people display against them.
You want to disagree? Fine.
Say what they do is distasteful and you don’t get it? Fine.
But there is a red line.@Yaakov Yosef A
Interesting you mention it, that is a point I have raised a few times when I met some of these people who attend those marches.
They did not really provide a proper answer, I can tell you one thing, hashkafa is hashkafa, but there is a whole 613 mitzvot and its halachot surrounding them, and forgetting that, concentrating on one single mitzva is never gonna get the person somewhere good.I know some of these people who live fully according to the Torah in everything, are engaged in Gemilut Chassadim, helping all kinds, many times people who are perceived as their enemies, but they don’t care, because the in accordance with the same Torah they believe instructs them to go to these marches, also tells them to bend over backwards for others, etc etc, like Rav Amram ztk”ll was. However there are others as well, who do not fully understand what they are doing, the repercussions and reasoning, and I have tried explaining more than once to them that Miredah B’umot HaOlam is not just an averah the zionists commit, anytime an action like a protest (besides for when the protest is about Yiddishkeit, which as all our Gedolim have said was not included in the Gezerat HaGalut), class action against the government etc, that is all meridah.
Thing is, they are sometimes do fired up, they don’t even hear you….
@FlatbushYid, interesting you note that about Neturei Karta,
I can personally attest to the fact that Weiss and the others who travelled to Iran, when everyone was blowing at them for going to the funeral of the president, no one stopped to ask how they managed to get there so quickly. They were there a few days before already, having picked themselves up, away from their families and travelled to Iran to try and help the Iranian Bachur, which actually was nearly sorted, before other well meaning misguided people mixed in telling Weiss he should threaten Iran he will stop being against zionism if he does not free the bachur (absurd as it sounds).This amongst many other occasions I know of, in which NK and their people engaged in selfless acts, which could be done only because of their stance.
Like you said, no matter on the disagreements and dislikes, credit is due to them in places.@yankal berel, you just prove my point above, instead of stating stupid personal comments that have no relevance to the point at hand, try and actually prove me wrong…
And calling someone’s murder a negligent act is rather inappropriate, unless you want to explain a bit better what you meant.
And when I bought various but not all instances of zionist bad acts in history, I did not say that b.n. did the same, rather, that given the historical time-and-again proven track record of what the zionists get up to, engage in, and what their method of conduct is, it would not surprise me at all to eventually see it proven that October 7th wasn’t merely hamas terrorists acting on their own, given the immense failure one on top of the other, that all points to something impossible to describe as a coincidence.
But, once again, I’ll say it:
A conspiracy theory is not the stating of facts and questioning what behind the facts. A conspiracy theory is to take those facts, the suspicions and build a so called “clear” picture of what went on.
Nowhere will you find that in my words, all I said was, that the finger points towards something like that, as it is way too suspicious given all the above.DO we know EXACTLY what happened? No.
Does that detract from the suspicions and question? also not.
Is something bigger at play? I’d say likely suspiciously so, but not provable, and probably not for a while…So you very well sidestepped the historical proof I provided, and instead used the typical zionist strategy of claiming no proof as proof to your own argument, very clever hhmm.
1. So you choose to believe a self hating Jew who curried favour with nazi’s, worked with and for them, and his testimony of someone else, but you won’t trust the person themselves, a G-D fearing holy man of your own admission, claiming him to be doped by the nazi’s… Oh sorry your zionist idol of kastner can’t be bashed, it hurts the [zionist] cause….
2. Without kastner they would have never have gotten to that point?? So that is why Rav Weissmandl managed to save many others, was ready and about to save all Hungarian Jewry, this train part of it all, only to be sabotaged by kastner (also well documented and proven), but when kastner does sabotage it, suddenly he’s the saviour, Rav Weissmandl the naive one, kastner the nebach for trying to pay up but couldn’t (I wonder why, I thought Rav Weissmandl was the one doped, so surely kastner had a method up his sleeve), but then you yourself admit Shternbuch paid for it in the end, so clearly they weren’t that fooled and naïve, cause they pulled it off in the end… AN you go saying I am convinced by Satmar propaganda…..
3. They never even planned on listening to Brand, and so what? You would rather lock someone up and not let them try, oh so you would say they had a better idea of what to do, so let me tell you what that idea is: Refuse countless efforts to open a comittee to save Jews up until 1942, at which point they allocated $250 for this, and bare in mind, as well-most of the years of the war, all zionists newspapers in Palestine never once mentioned what was going on in the concentration camps and all, go check them.
4. Eichmann played games with religious Jews who actually saved and tried to save others, but not kastner, who many a time openly flaunted his hate for them, choosing and saying that he’d rather send back them to the gas chambers, as this would kill two birds with one stone, 1, send people who would not benefit the state of israel back to their deaths, and use their blood to get sympathy for the state-rak bedam tiyeh lanu ha’aretz….
5. None of the info I quote came from any Satmar or like origins, I already listed some of the sources, one of which is Rabbi Dr. Griffels book Dateline:Istanbul, a book printed by Artscroll, not very Satmar sorry to say. And by the way, he was an emissary from Aguda to the joint to try and help save Jewry in the holocaust, which he eventually left and went on his own, side-lining them and teeming up with others that actually wanted to save Jews, and Baruch Hashem managed to.
6. I grew up on these zionist myths (not my parents davka, but my surroundings and schools, yeshivot etc), they were the accepted “facts”, my upbringing was in no way satmar, and my first proper encounter with Satmar only came after my marriage so that says it all. I just so happened to be someone who loves reading, and brought up by my parents to not just sheep-follow-sheep believe everything and work things out for myself, which I did. The actual thing that sparked my interest and research into zionism and everything surrounding it was the constant need for zionists to defend themselves, and almost never being able to logically argue their point, alwys falling back on emotional arguments like “do you seriously want another holocaust (ch”v)?”, or it is the “only” safe place Jews can be jews (yeh sure thats another discussion) etc etc, at which point I was intrigued and delved in, findin a lot unfortunately, popping the bubble I always that as sacred and untouchable.
7. Mate, I am not about to go listening to zionist pr propaganda/hasbara leaning podcasts that serve sorely the purpose of rewriting history, I’d much rather delve into the history itself, sorry mate, you very well can search up the records of when the first “acts” of “attempting” to save jews was done by kastner, the joint and all the ym”sh crooks there, you will find no records pre late 1941, when it was later in 1942 that as I said above it was created…
You proved my point in your comments, not being able to back up your outlandish claims with clearcut history/proof, instead banging on about Satmar kool aid, grow up mate!
8. And the deceptions go on: So Rav Weissmandl mad a mistake, thinking he could bargain with the nazi’s, which actually worked besides for when the zionist “saviour” meddled into it, but kastner didn’t make that mistake, especially when eventually not paying up, nearly causing the death of another 1k+? He very well had access to the funds so don’t try selling white lies to me.
9. He didn’t want to submit the papers…. What utter nonsense…
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@pekak,
Thanks for the clarification.
@Always_Ask_Questions,
Rav Wasserman writes it in his sefer Yalkut Ma’amarim Umichtavim, the Chafetz Chayims own grandson Rav Saks repeated it many times as well.@chiefshmerel
Put emotions to the side for a second:
Besides for the act of transporting the signs on Shabbat, which I have actually asked a few normal main stream poskim about, and it is not 100% clear that is chillul shabbat since they literally wear them, but still arguably could be an issue,1. There is not any single act of theirs which you can halachically point out and say that goes against so-and-so halacha.
2. Before we go around negating (or “questioning”) others yichus, remember a serious chazal- haposel bemumo posel. When Gedolim have gotten up and made statements about any group or individual that’s one thing (like when the Chafetz Chayim said the zionists are mizera amalek as stated by Rav Wasserman ztz”l), they have the Ruach Hakodesh and right to state such grave things, as they represent the Torah.
3. you asked about the yichus of these people, well I do not personally know all of them but do know at least one of them personally, and happen to know a bit about the others. Rabbi Feldmans mother was a Gertner, who’s parents was the family that took in Yossele Shu[ch]macher. He himself descends from the Feldman family from what I know- a family traditionally belonging to the Malachim community (today more or less affiliated with Satmar) who were a branch of Chabad that kind of detached from Lubavitch already in the days of the Riyatz, but mainly when the late (or current if you like) Lubavitcher Rebbe took over.
Rabbi Weiss comes from the Weiss family a very well known Jewish family, of which there are many branches, most today in Satmar, but some in other Chassidic communities (it is by now a very large extended family).
I believe (not 100%) that he is from the branch of the Weiss family that left/ran away from Eretz Yisrael after it was taken over, fleeing the religious persecution, and ultimately their patriarch left a will asking his descendants not to ever travel to the medinah (which many Satmar Chassidim follow anyhow).This Yitzchok Deutsch i do not know.
@Chaim 87,
read point 3. in my last comment about the truth satmar “covers up” in regards to how he was saved on that train…
And yes most people “refused” to co-operate with the zionists in ww2 if you want to call it refusal, because the zionists WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO RESCUE JEWS.@Chaim87,
If it was really quack that these secular leaders of israel “really wouldn’t let Oct 7 happen”, than let me say this:I understand you may want to whitewash history up until October 7, as many zionists may want to do, as it has become a point to latch onto, as if the world came into existence on October the 7th, but mate, I am sorry to tell you there is history to be told:
1. Well documented, e.g by Rabbi Weissmandl’s book Min Hameitzar and Rabbi Dr. Griffels book Timeline; Istanbul (printed by Artscroll), both describe in much detail the many times that rescue operations to save Jews in the Holocaust were either pushed off, sabotaged or directly blocked by zionists at the time, mainly being the Joint, for example, you may not be aware, but the Joint only after immense pressure by Rav Kotler zt”l and his war rescue organisation, did the joint even consider discussing rescue attempts for Jewry in Europe.
It was in 1942 (!!) that they finally opened the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee, and how? they allotted $250 for telegram cables regarding this, at the same time they were sitting on billions of dollars that could have been put to use in this, but no- rak bedam tiye lanu ha’aretz was their motto.2. Bund was sent out of the way and imprisoned due to him trying to overrule the joints attempts at sabotaging rescue work.
3. Kastner first attempted to sabotage Rav Weissmandl’s train that would save many yidden, ultimately offering more to the nazis so that he can save the ones he wanted to, ones that would be “helpful” to the zionist cause and not some “unwanted” Hungarian Jews that might attest to the zionist cause, and guess what? the train got stuck at Auschwitz after all that, why? Cause Kastner wouldn’t pay up, who did in the end? The Shternbuchs, Rav Weissmandl and their organisation….
4. Dr Dehan was shot point blank, until today a celebrated murder in israel, because he nearly came to a peaceful agreement with the surrounding Arab nations to guarantee peaceful co-existence that wouldn’t be based on war, terror and generations of terrorists bred by hatred caused by the zionists.
5. Even with October 7th, there is so much information out there that you are either aware or unaware of, which points very strongly to this pattern, yes to say exactly what and how may touch on conspiracy, but if you look at the info itself without building conclusions, that is unsettling enough by itself, to suggest that someone somewhere was willing to let this slip through, without saying who.
So to say that those that question israels leaders in not caring about the spilling of Jewish blood are quacks is hopefully ignorant or ostrich-head-in-the-sand… unless of course you know the truth but cannot admit to it, cause it bashes at your zionist idol worship….
@Yaakov Yosef A,
Although I cannot speak on philosophers behalf, to me it is quite clear what he means, let me explain:The truth is not always so black and white. The fact that israel may have had a hand in Bush’s Iraq war and Trumps current Iran war is in no way a contradiction to admitting and discussing the situation and methods in how to deal with terrorists. That does not have to translate into oh so are you kahanist or Satmar?
Whatever philosophers hashkafa is, that was not the point he was discussing here at all (philosopher tell me if I’m wrong), he was simply discussing the fact that the current Prime Minister of isarel is a power freak to the point of being willing to put his own citizens at major risk, and the general region, in order to preserve his power.
Some may say this is a conspiracy, but I myself have noticed a very interesting and “coincidental” pattern: Every time his chair starts burning beneath him, some conflict suddenly pops up, and “for the sake of the nation” everyone is asked “to be in unity” and not let “politics get in the way” at such a “time of war”, when the pattern makes you wonder if that time of war only serves the very purpose of politics being forgotten…
It may sound like a conspiracy, but the pattern is unsettling in the least….@BaltimoreMaven
I take it you haven’t played battleships (if that has anything to do with this).
small ships are harder to locate in battleships, but it real life not only are they hard to locate but even when located they are harder to target as they are more agile and reroute quicker faster. and more effectively. A larger boat, once hit will start to slow down, which makes it harder for it to manoeuvre, and definitely to reroute/change direction to avoid getting hit……No it s not at all kosher being that it comes from a non jewish empty meaning social media derived meme that constitutes as uvechukotehem lo telechu.
@147,
Yes I agree, he’s going to have to go, I just hope that Trumps takes the plunge and sorts this out before he gets his claws to deep in (notwithstanding my comments above).
We in London are suffering the consequences of the old-time British method of brushing it under the carpet and hoping for the situation to go away automatically.
Fact is we have a major corrupt money laundering fraudster called sadiq kahn (or rasha kahn as we call him), that keeps on earmarking money for “the needy”, “shelters”, opening new programs for “ethnic groups”, and yes you guessed it, they all go to building new mosks, halal facilities, and all this money coming from taxes etc.. whilst leaving crime flying high, mostly by africans with robberies and his pakistani cousins with all their scams…
whilst he charges anyone coming to london £12.50 a day if you drive a “bad for the environment” car, he’s being chauffered around and a not stock 7L Range Rover which must be very economical….. Yemach SHEMO!!! NEW YORK SAVE YOURSELEVES BEFORE YOU USHER IN THE ERA OF YORKISTAN!!!@SR,
Putting aside the Halachik questions, fact is your wrong.
Emigration to Eretz Yisroel was in every way like a “wall.” You missed the fact that there are two interpretations to the word bechoma, one being en-masse, and one armed, BOTH of which were broken, en-masse because unless you are desperate enough in your “defense” of zionism to walk blindfolded onto a highway, you would know from history the major campaigns that went on, smuggling, they aliyah alef and more infamously bet, and more, besides for being armed, they didn’t fight the arabs with disposable knives and forks sorry mate, however romantic you’d like zionism to be, the fact is they were armed, and that’s how they “won”.
2) Israel was not created by the nations and even IF so, VaYoel Moshe (oh sorry only at google for you) clearly brings the point that even if the nations would push us to do this we would be prohibited, due to the fact that we don’t follow the Torah so long others don’t break it, it is not a snobby i will only if my friends will game, the Torah we keep because that’s what Hashem said to do.
3) The Holocaust was oppression and therefore?? and you know what else it was? The punishment for something that apparently is not assur according to you- the three oaths….
This is besides for the fact that the Holocaust was very largely the zionists fault (not to take away from the nazi’s evil), with all the history there to prove it, Min Hameitzar, Dateline: Istanbul- the life story of Rabbi Dr. Griffels, Perfidy, Nuremberg trial documents, and so much more………It was slow. This was the first Oath. The second Oath has been satisfied because, ironically, Israel was created by a vote of the United Nations, showing the consent of the nations. Finally, as far as the third Oath is concerned, the Holocaust was certainly a case of the ultimate oppression.
“True Torah Jews Org site would even say that the sun is not shining in the middle of the day if that would benefit their ideology.”
Sorry:“zionists say that the sun is not shining in the middle of the day to benefit their ideology.”
The Avnei Nezer, the Ramban (supposing that’s what you meant regarding his piece why the Rambam skipped over mitzvat Yishuv Eretz Yisrael etc and the rest) is discussed in VaYoel Moshe you can open it and see for yourself! As I did say, the Satmar Rav covers everything there.
And however special R’ Moshe Sherer was, if you put him in one breath with the Avnei Nezer right up to R’ Kamenetzky than somethings wrong with ya man, did you by mistake just spell out your gedolim card collection, I mean the random mix of completely different people, from Rishonim, achronim to roshei yeshiva like i thought we were discussing halacha here, not politics or hashkafa, sorry….
But if you want to mix politics into this, let’s just say this, to not open another can of worms, don’t bring r.a.y.k. otherwise I’ll have to bring other quotes from his writings in order to answer why all poskim in kelal yisrael (not youtube or podcast Gedolim or whatever, they don’t count) are NOT gores him. To put him in one line with theFact end of the day is, there is no other work on the topic with the depth clarity and topic coverage like VaYoel Moshe END OF. It might hurt you, especially if your desperate to excuse zionism but that’s the fact. (I’m sure someone’s going to mention yoel kahns pamphlet in which he repeats his “answer” to a personal distortion of one sentence from VaYoel Moshe but hey hoh it’s the same guys who will sit all day ad every day searching Rabbi Google from top to bottom for any possible distortable mekor remotely connected to Eretz Yisrael, but will not open a VaYoel Moshe “because it’s clear” i.e. they follow google da’as torah….).
Stop the stupid properganda against him, otherwise he’ll get angry and ch”v take revenge….
Satmar did something very clever, they now have an open line of contact and dialogue with him, unlike all the others who were busy shouting from the rooftops against him (this is not a statement to support him or say he’s right), it’s just the way to deal with such people is to curry favour in order to pacify him, not wind him up more, burn your bridges and then cry anti-semitism, that is just victimisation, which is only damaging, it doesn’t actually change anything, as the old phrase goes:
BETTER BE CLEVER THAN RIGHT!!@RightJew, @squareroot, @wojwoj, and any other misinformed or worse commentor, to you I say GOOD MORNING!!
this recycled twisted zionist spam FOLDER OF MADE UP NONSENSE is known to anyone who’s ever given more than 5 mins of their life to the subject of zionism.
bit by bit:1) The Rav Chaim Vital you quote is clearly and simply answered by the Satmar Rav Ztzk”l in Vayoel Moshe in the mid kuf simanim from what I remember, in which he clearly proves that Rav Chaim Vital actually says the exact opposite, quoting him word by word verbatim, (unlike this mythical idea’s source, which is a early generation zionist mizrachi or worse rabbi who was completely ignored, until some yeshiva bachur “looking for the truth” found his junk and decided it was the truth ch”v).
2) Interesting thing is, in your opening article for this “dialogue” you quote nothing but zionist jargon (that includes old time zionist misinterpretations), sometimes quoting long disproven distortions from people who never dared to state the things these sources unashamedly state.
3) One of the biggest lies, is that the Issur of Aliyah Bechoma was not violated. Anyone who knows the first thing about zionist history will know about the lechi and the like, all of whom engaged in terror no different than Hamas and other terrosrist organisations (they just didn’t have the kind of funding and help that these savages do, but they still murdered jews and non jews alike). And if you tell me that there was no government at the time (when there was there was the Bitish mandate which constitutes as the running government UNTIL etc), well nowhere will you find the idea that this issur is only against a controlling force in the makeup of a government etc. coming en-masse to overtake a land, EVEN IF IT WAS UNINHABITED, is still assur, as the issur is on the jews to do the act not for it top happen to someone. Aliyah Bechoma beens gowing up in large numbers/armed depending on the pshat understod (most hold that both are halacha).
4) The debate regarding the halachiq status of agadtah IN OF ITSELF is both irrelevant and wrong to be “DECIDED” (not discussed rather decided) on this platform, as 1. it is for Rabbanim, Dayanim and Poskim to dictate the halachaq status of a whole contingent of the Torah, and 2. because whe agadtah’s that some like to use to twist to fit their zionist idealogies, suddenly they remember agadta’s halachiq status…. hhhmmm….
5) All the above besides the fact that up until the 18-hundreds, it was wholly and unequivocally accepted as halacha, throughout history up until the zionist bandits turned up. Why then was it not discussed as much as other topics in halacha? because of the above, because it was so simple and basic in everyones mind that it was assur and that’s it, is the reason why it wasn’t discussed that much, proof? Because where it was discussed it is very clear that it is assur including the ones that are “quoted” by zionists in their misinterpritations, like the Rav Chaim Vital we mentioned above, which people quote as to say that Rav Chaim Vital “says” that the oaths are only kayam for 1000 years (ch”v), which is complete utter rubbish, open the Rav Chaim Vital you are quoting and read what he says before you quote zionist newspaper junk.
6) Besides all of this, even if you want to say that the sky’s pink and not blue, one thing you can’t ignore is that the punishment that the gemara states for being over on the oaths has unfortunately occurred, more than once, even I’d say…
7) The lies go on and on, and simply because there is no limit to sheker because it is a thing which can be made up again and again I don’t answer everything here, but if anyone has got sincere questions or queries I’d be more than happy to help[, but let’s just remember that this isn’t a kollel, just the coffee room……
The ignorant, one sided and extreme left or similar comment should not even be answered, a waist of mental space taken up in our brains.
Just lets say it straight and simple:If you stop pandering around touting stupid zionist kefira to the point that zionism is YOUR only form of “judaism” (in inverted commas), than that will take away the need and chashivus to be preoccupied with bringing out and displaying anti zionism.
If the symptoms of the zionist cancer keep coming back, we need to keep dealing with it, so that the zionist cancer doesn’t totally ravage the Yiddishe nation.
Don’t like it?
JUMP IN THE NEAREST LAKE, IT IS TOO BAD, YOU WON’T FORCE PEOPLE TO ACCEPT YOUR PATHETIC HEGELICAL NEO-NAZI NATIONALISTIC RELIGION OF NEW AGE JUDAISM SORRY!!@Neville Chaimberlin Lo Mes,
For that very reason, there are many who don’t use the gentile dating system because of what you mention, but then there are otheres that don’t see it as THAT bad….
Here I found a link to feldheim publishers for the sefer i mentioned above:
@Chaim87,
You make me laugh!
The Chafetz Chaim walked out? huh?
The Chafetz Chaim, when being shown a piece written by “rav” kook about playing football to build muscles and boys and girls dancing together having the ma’alah of tikun chatzot – afra lepumei, he wouldn’t touch the paper, instead shoving it with his elbow to the floor and shouting – “kook, shmook drook!” Apikoires!And then you say “Satmar Rebs and briska Rav were very holy and anti DL. But they weren’t the mainstream of klal Yisroel”.
So quite clearly you outline yourself as DL or MO, because, whether you are a satmar chassid or not, a brisker or not, to say they were not the “mainstream” means only one thing, that what you call mainstream and what most people call mainstream is obviously not the same thing.
The biggest lie is that they wer “da’as yachid” (funny thing to be able to call more than one Gadol in the singular term Da’as Yachid).Let’s get this straight, if you have an agenda here, than yes, anyone who veers from the path of zionist idol worship (or at least in some way seemed to have a positive view partly even), is not mainstream.
But if you follow and want the truth lets go through this:The Satmar Rav was NOT a da’as yachid for many reasons but two basic reasons:
1) Many Rabbanim, Posikim and Rebbe’s agreed and followed that way, which only after the war was branded the “satmar shita”. before it was the common core belief of most frum, ehrlich, shomrei shabbat in the world.
It was after the Satmar Rav was machriah a big shailah in the form of his sefer Vayoel Moshe, that many Gedolim either agreed that that was what should be followed, or agreed in principle but in certain specific circumstances argued.
Those Gedolim and Poskim who did agree might have not got that much coverage and backing by hamodia or even the opposite (just like the Satmar Rav who during his lifetinme was cursed and mevazeh by so called “frum” news outlets, but became a kadosh once he was niftar), but the fact remains they were Gedolim alright, e.g.
1) The Veitziner Rav – beforhand the Bergen Belsen Rav, who was the main posek after the war in the area of agunot, and his psakim are used in that area until today,
2) The Pupa Rav, who was both a major Posek and one of the first Marbitzei Torah after the war, opening a Yeshiva after the war in the USA,
3) Rav Yosef Chaim Zonnenfeld (- before the war), who sent a sheila to the Satmar rav about what the Da’as Torah on “rav” kook is (at the time Rav Zonnenfeld was probably in his eighties whilst the Satmar Rav was maybe in his early thirties but Rav Zonnendfeld felt that he needed to ask him), and the Teshuva is printed in Shu”t Divrei Yoel 131 or 132,
4) Rav Zelig bengis,
5) Rav Pinchas Yungreis,
6) Rav Avraham Kalmanovitch (Mir USA),
7) Vadislaver rav,
8) Tosher Rebbe,
9) Skulener Rebbes,
10) The Bobover Rebbe’s (although in many areas they mostly didn’t publicly speak, besides for Rav Naftuli of Bobov who was much more vocal),
11) Rav Mottele Vizhnitzer (USA),
12) The Brisker Rav,
13) The Chazon Ish,
and the list goes on an on.
(these examples were not gedolim who followed every word of Vayoel Moshe only, but also who generally agreed with the outlook, even if certain specifics were paskened otherwise).However they are all not mainstream because of their outright anti-zionism, aha i get it, by you zionism is the mainstream? fine then B”H I am not from the mainstream..
@Haimy,
your absolute pathetic at best.
Seriously, if your child/wife (or husband if your a woman) etc come home and say that they did some segula that is renowned from a certain tzadik (this has nothing to do with the machla of segulot and not doing the basics), and saw a great yeshua, would you seriously bash it and tell them that it isn’t worth it, they should go do this and that instead? I hope not, be happy that they believe in emunat chachamim!There is a sefer called ma’amar hageulah that was written by the Ramchal, and translated by a rav from London called Rav M. Nissim (published by feldheimers), and in the introduction, he explains that although feldheim has a way they explain the words chochma bina and da’at to mean, it is not 100% accurate to the exact meaning of the words, and he explains the meaning there (in the introduction from what i remember), with the sources, hope that helps.
It is not at all a new trend.
It is mostly by Belzer Chassidim, but not limited only to them.
the source is not 100% clear, as it is an ancient minhag dating back so far that it isn’t really clear from when.
It is supposed to symbolise a zecher to techelet, as techelet wasn’t/isn’t around (machaloket poskim), and serves as a reminder of techelet.That was how they used to make tzitzis all over was with a slight blueish ting, not a strong blue, but a very dark mild blue-almost black.
However, when the so called “religious” zionists started putting blue on their taletim to symbolise their flag, it was widely accepted all over not to go anymore with blue stripes, even as mild as they were, however Belz decided to stay with blue, citing their mesorah.Cry baby cry.
It just ‘aint gonna change accept the fact…As you said so, I will not reply regarding the idf, but in relation to you writing/aiming for a sefer torah for yourself, no, it is not at all selfish, in fact the mitzvah of writing a sefer torah to donate it for somewhere else, whilst may be a nice thing, is not the core mitzva of attaining a sefer torah. The mitzvah is more for you to have personal benefit ie reading from it.
It is more of a hiddur if you will be using it yourself, or have benefit from it.
Hope that helps.In all seriousness, there are some really nice Skulener Nigunim for lo tevoshi for the Chassidish and Ashkenazi tzibur, and some really nice nigunim based on makamim in the sefaradi/arabic world (many sefaradim do not necessarily sing quicker songs or even split up lecha dodi, they sing it with one nigun from start to finish).
Maybe the one that goes, na na na nay nay, na na, na nay nay, ay ay ay ay….
@Coffee addict,
Hopefully it would be the same reversed, as we are Jews, driven by the Torah Hakdosha, not just empty politics…@Gedol Hador,
You’ll notice that I wasn’t referring to the Rambam itself i was referring to the attitude in which the OP was disregarding all the Gedolim that hold otherwise to the OP.
For them to do that is open kefira, as intrinsic to the Emuna is believing in our Chachamim (btw this is from the Rambam himself so the OP shouldn’t pick and choose Rambams).Besides, you’ll see as well from my previous message that I myself work and am not in “full time” learning.
That doesn’t change anything though….????? ??? ?? ??? ????
alhamd lilah an sha’ allah@catch-yourself,
Actually, they do pasken like the Rambam, however they interpret the Rambam differently than what the Smak describes as “Da’as Ba’al Habatim Hepech Da’as Torah”.
They are Gedolim, and specifically BECAUSE they learn all day, and know and have a right to give their de’ah, they interpret the Rambam differently than a ba’al habayit would.
Your point stands, what I want to understand how YWN allows such a thing on their site, it is the diametric opposite to the very core foundations of the Yeshiva World.@nishtdayngesheft,
64bit probably wrote that “in” famous by mistake.
I doubt it was on purpose.I am not sure where you are located in the world but here in Europe there is a few brilliant ones, two that come to mind is the “anisette” by a company called “Destilería Limiñana”, and the other called Floranis by a company called “Anisette Gras”.
I can show two links here but I am not sure if it falls in line with YWN guidelines (if it does not YWN please just delete the links but not the rest of my message thanks).
https://www.kosherwine.co.uk/cristal-anis-arack-p4933
and:
A minyan factory is a shul that does not NECESSARILY serve a perticular Kehilla, or even if it officialy does, due to it’s facilities (i.e. mikva etc), size or location, it serves all members of that city/town etc.
More than anything though, usually, is the sheer amount of minyanim happening in that one shul, many times not having a strict timing as in start times for minyanim, rather one starting as soon as the last finishes.So you know better than all the Gedolim?
Obviously if you think so (which is outright kefira), than you’ll find “no basis in the Torah or out of it.”, as the Torah that was given on Mount Sinai is obviously not the same one that you follow….
Sorry but not sorry to be so strong but facts are facts.
I am not someone that sits and learns “all day”, nor am I in a kollel framework, but to say what you write here is way past any boundary. Kefira full stop.Whilst I understand what you say and you have a very strong point, you have to remember that once upon a time, years ago before the war, MOST of our ancestors where not in Koillel or Yeshiva.
No I am not advocating stopping yeshivos ch”v and definitely not part of the crowd that use this as a springboard to be anti yeshiva and anti chareidi etc, –
BUT, and BUT, that does not retract from to very strong points that are facts now-a-days as a direct result of the “system” as you may call it:1) Many falling out the Yeshiva system today are doing so because they are not made for it, just as many years ago most were not. Humanity does not change. Hashem sends each person down to this world with their own unique tachlis.
How many falling away haya lo tihiyeh, are falling away because they went through a system that they were not made to go through, get burnt out and then leave ch”v, when they could have followed a different path and remained?2) Superficiality. Because it has become a system, learning in yeshiva itself is not given the chashivut that it deserves, because “everyone” does it. doesn’t matter weak, strong, clever, not clever, sharp not sharp, lamdan not lamdan, like a sausage factory, where each sausage started off as a cow, which no two cows are the same but eventually ended up the same looking red sausage, each bachur unique and special how Hashem created them, goes into a system and are expected all to come out more or less the same.
The system is broken.
No one medicine can be the refua for every machla.
Yeshivot AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY are just not made for everyone.Given this, whilst you have a point – a very strong one, the above should be taken into consideration.
Given the above, from past experience/history, such leaflets, publications, sent around with no real address or hascama usually comes from people indeed looking to undermine yidishkeit and the yeshiva system
definitely not.
You are totally right i thought of this many times myself….
YWN should really take it down…Dear Y. W. Editor,
I think what @Haimy meant was not to let through comments that criticize the atzeres.
There has been various disgusting bizayon kavod hatorah comments made by individuals on the YWN platform, and they should not have been let through.
This is, being that YWN stands for Yeshiva World News, and therefore, comments against the Yeshiva World and it’s Gedolim should not be tolerated, as after all, we do not believe in the leftist “freedom of speech”, yes there is a way to speak and comment, and on a platform that is specific to the frum yeshiva world the guidelines should be in line with it.If, and IF the competition would be adequately trained and qualified for the job, the only thing that it could bring is good, as it’s rival would strive to show they’re better at the job, to which the competition would reply in kind etc, up-ending the bar of quality in the service they provide.
Competition per se is a very good thing, just it needs to be done proper.
I’d imagine that they can’t get the licence and certification from their respective authorities unless they meet a certain base standard….?I may be mistaken but I seem to remember that the Chasam Sofer writes that a woman who remarries automatically is cutting her connection to her first husband (someone correct me if i’m wrong).
Based on that I’d assume that she remains with her second husband, but on the other hand, there are those that write that the zivug as they call it “bashert” (arba’im yom etc), is the first one, and the “zivug kasha kekriyat yam suf” goes on a zivug sheni, which is why it is so hard, because there is no kodem yetziyat havlad considered, rather it is reliant on the zechutim of the person, so in that case it would seem that the first one is the one that the woman would go back to.
As others wrote above, it is a very heavily debated topic in the Poskim, and the answer for now is probably- even though not so exciting, but – teiku.I never said that use them myself, though it was an assumption on your part.
Notwithstanding my relation to Chabad or my opinions on it, for the most part, those that are compulsively obsessed with anti Chabad style talk, usually in my experience, pretty happy to use Chabad (probably with some sad excuse of something like at least they will get some zechut if i go there)…
There are surely many piuos and sincere intentions amongst the gvirim when doing the above, but there are also….. What the Zohar mentions, that there are 5 types of amalek, and one of them are people who donate money to have their name put up on plaques saying they donated whatever it is…. just saying…
Just everyone chill out.
I am sure you’d all be ready to use Chabad’s services when needed, like if you’re stuck between two transfer flights in middle of honolulu, and anything else, so as Chazal say, don’t throw a stone into the well you drank from (no I am not a chabadnik – very far from it, but I am a Jew.)
It is quite clear what the op meant.
A certain style, where when getting a haircut done, the area around the peyot are cut/shaved to make it look like they don’t exist/are not there as much as possible, without being able to call it downright assur mideorayta (which yes peyot is mideorayta, the shiur of it is a machaloket haposkim, but peyot in its core is mideorayta), and this is very concerning, something which definitely does not come from Rabbanim.
Going with any kind of hat/streimel etc as GadolHatorah stated is but a minhag based on the clothes that were and are worn within that setting/kehilla.
Peyot and the brit kodesh are the two physical simanim of a jew.