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In Israel they go crazy with the sufganiot!
Shwekey totally!!
intellegent- no it’s that everyone else is no good and we have to put them down
mariner- why do you have to go from one extreem to the next? Did I say they have to have dusty and sun bleached hats? All I said is he has to reflect the fact that he is a Ben Torah and not reflect the newest style.
A buchur should dress like he knows that he is learning Hashem’s Torah- in a respectible way. However, there are many girls(like myself) who are turned off on a date when they see a buchur wearing the latest, Buchrim who think they are in. The only thing they should be in, is Yeshiva!
intellegent- I once heard something about the word frum. the “u” is in the middle and above you is “fr”- Fanatically religious. Below you is “M”- modern. It’s all in what “U” are.
This is very sad but it is true.
Mariner- it might not be a curse but it is nivel peh. I guess everyone is sensitive on their level. I would be scared to know whay you consider bad.
Thank You Tzippi!
mariner- I was not brainwashed and I was sensitive to these words before I went to seminary.
illinio7- Why do you want to know?
I guess I am just not used to hearing those words on a daily basis. I guess that would be considered lucky. If those words are considered normal then I am scared to think what will be considered normal in a few years from now.
mariner- Please watch your language!
Zalmy- What are you doing on the internet talking to girls?
rabbiofberlin- I don’t know how you can deny that there is yiridas hadoros!
Have a good Shabbos
Feivel- Thanks but some people have to know these things.
Blueshirt- I understand that and I already said that I am not sitting in a beis medrish learning all day so I wouldn’t know. All I was saying is that Yiddishkeit does tell you exactly how to live your life. I don’t know how you can say that this is not so.
rabbiofberlin- I am aware of what you said but that was in the times of old. Today due to yiredas hadoros, we are not on that level and our taavos are much higher. Don’t tell me that all the hanging out that goes on is like it was in the times of the gmara. wake up!
R’ Shimshon Pinkus says that after 120 a person’s neshama will be opened and everyone will see all the hashkafos that the person heard during his life. music included. All I am saying is that music can be very bad for a person and it needs to be moniterd. What you write about R’ Shlomo is true, every neshama needs to hear different music but someone who is a Baal Tishuva (NOT TO PUT THEM DONW BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY SPECIAL) and someone who grew up frum and went to bais yaakov should not be listening to the same music. you wrote about music effecting you, “Let us assume you are right”. The levim used to play music in the beis Hamikdash to arouse a person to Teshuva and there are more examples where we see that music effects the listener.
I guess everyone has their own opinions of what yiddishkeit is. Enjoy yours! all I know is that I will try my best to listen to the gedolim because they are our leaders and they deserve our respect.
blueshirt- when I said shulchan aruch I meant Halacha seforim. You are right I don’t learn in Yeshiva and I don’t know all of that. However, I do know that Torah is not a way of life, it is life! I am not a robot but I know that the Chachamim are right. I do think about what I am doing and I hope I do get schar. By the fact that you say “Your gedolim assured the internet” it makes it sound like they are not your gedolim also. You are right, I am very sad that I have to use the internet for school and when I have my own home im yirteh Hashem I won’t have internet.
I know there are different minhagim and I respect that but if chachamim are saying something, there must be somethig to it. Music effects the neshama! A person has to be very careful in what he/she listens to.
Rabbiofberlin-I’m sorry to say that concerts are very dangerous in a spiritual way. Yes the singer can be very frum and singing beautiful songs but it is still wrong because it is a Moshav Leitzim. It is so goyish and what happens before and after (and during) with the mingling is absolutly disgusting even if there are seperate seating.
You say that “these so-called Guardians of Yiddishkeit are trying to govern every aspect of my life” Guess what that is what Yiddishkeit is. Did you ever read the Shulchan Aruch? It tells you exactly what to do and how to do it. That is why Yiddishkeit is so special, it tells you exactly how to live your life and doesn’t let you live by your taavos like every goy on the steet. Do you think it is restrictive? No way! the Goyim are restricted by their taavos. I don’t know about you but I am very proud and happy that the Gedolim are ruling every aspect of our life. May they continue to do their work!
I don’t think we can judge about sem being camp because every sem is different.
Rebbetzin- I did gain a lot in sem and my haskafos were solified maybe when I have a toddler I will have more patients since the lessons I learned will stay with me forever. Every girl is different and eveyone learns in another way. Some go to eretz yisroel and some don’t. I think there is no point in this disscussion because everything is hashgacha and everyone ends up where he or she are suppose to be.
Everyone should just get Kosher Phones and then no one would be texting!
rebbetzin- “Sem. is nice and why not learn when you can, but I don’t think it really is preparation for real life.”
I don’t think this is a blanket statement for everyone and every sem. Maybe your sem when you went wasn’t but I beg to differ that I really gained a lot from sem and specifically since it was in Eretz Yisroel. Therefore I don’t think it is fair to say this. You can speak to my mother and ask her, she will tell you that she sent a different person than she got back. The one she got back is now ready to face what you call “real life”
semtatty- i’m sorry if i hurt you, i did’t mean it! I am glad to hear that your daughter is not like the girl I described. I don’t know about all sems but mine and those of my high school friends offered three meals a day and did not take us to poland. I don’t know which sem your daghter is planning on going to. But maybe that sem does need to realize that the parent’s pockets are not bottomless. When we had to dish out money certain times during the year wheather it be chanukah or something else, many girls did not pay and were understood. I guess it depends on which sem. I’m sorry if I jumped on you. I don’t want you to get the wrong picture that my parents are drowning in money either. My father is in chinuch supporting four married kollel children. I also agree that sending girls to sem used to be cheaper and the tuition goes up extreeeeeeeeeeeeeemly fast without rachmanus. However,sem is an experience which I think should not be missed. Forget about shidduchim for a second, sem in Eretz Yisroel is like no other experience in a girl’s life. I don’t think that can be explained.
Tzippi- I mean specifically in Eretz Yisroel because every girl needs a sem year to learn more and also certain things that you can only gain in sem. Also the structure and age like you said. It’s amazing how we were so open to hear things that we were not open to hear in high school. Girls really change including myself. There are certain girls that if you give them the free rein of being by themselves in Eretz Yisroel it can be very very very dangerous for them ruchniusly. The hanging out there is horrible. Therefore, every parent needs to know his or her own child. Sem in Eretz Yisroel is definitly not for everyone. I am not one of those girls who came back in the clouds saying that EVERYONE MUST GO TO SEM IN ERETZ YISROEL. Now out of town can be very difficult. I’m not just saying it stam because if my name wouldn’t be postsemgirl it would be proud out of towner!!!!!! I don’t really have an eitza for you maybe go to NY or Cleveland. This is not the only problem. Believe me I know about it. Jus hold your head high because out of towners are the best! (not to insult the in towners)
Since when is yankees a neutral topic? First of all what about the Chicago Cubs who seem to be doing very well. Second, sports are addictive and not healthy for a jewish soul!
As a postsemgirl as you can tell from my name, I agree with bored@work. semtatty- girls in sem do NOT have to eat out every night,parents should not have to dish out so much extra money, girls can take buses, and they do not have to go to europe. The kind of girl you are talking about is a JAP who while in eretz yisroel totaly misses the boat and see’s it as a year to spend her parents money and thinks she is still in america having all the luxeries she is used to. Insead of bad mouthing sem you should think about how the child was brought up! I know these types of kids. they don’t eat any meals in sem thinking they have to go out to eat and they are to chashuv to ride in a bus and must take taxis and they need to talk for hours to their friends back home………………. I can go on an on since I was roomates with two of these types of girls. However you can call up my father who send 4 daughters to sem and ask him if his money was worth it and he will tell you that it was worth every penny. His daughters learned independence and responsibility and gained a chashivus for eretz yisroel. one more thing, it was very sad to see that girls who had count downs the day sem started. it is true that those type of girls should not be in sem and every parent has to decide if his/her daughter should go to sem.
levi123:
A man who looks at a women because he has unclean thoughts? It is perfectly natural and normal for a man to look at a woman! A person can never kill the yetzer hara for arayos and even great people have trouble with it! shmeiras einayim is very hard. I don’t know if you are male or female but I wonder.
About the lycra. If it is worn under another layer and is used to cover the body when the woman is in action, there is nothing wrong with it. if it is worn by itself then there is a problem because it is very very tight because it is made that way. Therefore, each woman for herself should decide if she should wear it.
Two boys, in the yeshiva my father works in, were expelled for marijuana in the dorm.
I think the answer to the question is the upringing of the men/buchrim. My father and brother put away seforim when they are finished using them. If people feel that everyone is there to clean up after themselves then this is what happens. It’s not only with seforim. the same people who don’t put away seforim probably don’t throw their plate out after supper.
Women who are not busy with another mitzvah have a chiuv to daven shacharis and mincha. At least that’s what they taught us in school. What’s the problem of davening on a train? I’ve davened in many places and I felt that I made a kiddush Hashem. I’m not saying to daven in the middle of everything but off to the side is not a problem. Don’t make it into one. There are many problems unfortunatly in Klal Yisroel. Don’t make more problems out of something beautiful! Deal with the real ones!
Joseph what does this have to do with summer? We need to fix the tznius problem all year around. Tznius is not just dress.
I think everyone should stop playing the blame game and take responsibility for his/her own actions. It’s BOTH the men’s and women’s fault.
I think everyone should stop playing the blame game as a way to take the blame of his/herself and just fix yourself. The men can say it’s the woman’s problem because she shouldn’t look like that and the women can say it’s the man’s problem because he shouldn’t be looking at me and flirting with me. Just do what you have to do.
I think we should stop putting the blame on the womem/men because both are not doing 100% what is righ. If we stop playing the blame game and everyone took responsibility then the situation would be better.
What is the point of putting the blame on the women or the men? Each individual should decided for him/herself if she is doing what is right and his/her spouse should help.
About following the style, many girls think that since it is the style they have to wear it. It could be that it is really ugly and maybe untznius but since it’s the style they will wear it. When a certain style came in, someone told me it’s ugly. Then I told her it is the style and she said “Oh really it’s so cute, I have to get it. Not because it’s the style but because it’s cute.” Sure!