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Oomis,
Chiropractors are not like doctors, some people swear by them while others are not into it at all. Your father sounds like a very special person, and is lucky to have been the shaliach for many, but the fact that he “he treated patients for free or for a greatly reduced fee” doesnt have to do with the success rate of chiropractors. Dont take Jose too personally, because there are many pple that feel this way. My mother in law swears by her acupuncturist. She goes to her for a sore throat as well as a backache and after a few sessions is healed. She gets very offended if anyone tells her that they dont believe in acupuncture. As soon as you venture out of “conventional medicine” some pple “believe in it” other do not. Just like vitiams and all the new products at the health food stores, some pple say it’s a craze while others take their Umeboshi twice a day.
I walked down to a beautiful Ani Mamin. Besides for the inspiring tune, the chupa is a time for remembering Yerushalayim and for begging Hashem for the geula. I do believe that the meaning of the song is very important. I also wanted to know who the producer was of this song, becuase they say that every singer puts his being, his beliefs and Kochos into the song he produces, it is for this reason that we should refrain from listening to secular music, and certainly during the most kadosh part of your life, who would want to walk down to a non jewish tune?!!!
Like oomis1105 said, never be afraid of going for a second or third opinion. A family member had a problem with her gums which did not cause pain but she noticed swelling. She went to a top notch dentist who said the only way to correct the problem is through a surgery in her mouth, and they would need a couple of hours so she would need general anesthesia, and it would have to be done in a hospital. She went for a second opinion to a dentist that was suggested by an Askan, even though the visit was not covered by her insurance. He told her that the problem is not so severe and he could correct it in his office with a regular local anesthesia. When she told him what the other dentist had said, he told her that many doctors are out to make extra money from insurance companies and therefore put patients through procedures that are not necessary.
I am not saying that is the case by you, but never be afraid of a second opinion.
This topic has been discussed so so many times in the coffee room already? DOes this mean that all shidduch topics have been discussed already and we are on for doubles and triples?
em es, My friend went on a date and the boy did the same thing. She thought they should’ve taken the steps if he felt this way. Or maybe such a boy should sit in.
Actually, once on a date the boy told me that he is sorry he didnt open the car door for me, he knows it’s protocol for a date, but he doesnt think its tznius. I was quite impressed actually, and agreed.
realtalk, that is cute of him….
It is Rebbish. The Rebbe dances Mitzvah Tanz. I have heard of this but have never attended any. It’s only for close family, usually done in a house.
There are phones that you can set up certain phone numbers that can you can text to. Sort of like an internet white list.
You got a SUPER mix of songs! I really enjoy it!!! I Keep it running all the time!
Brooklyn – FOOD FOOD FOOD go from one eatery to the next to the next – you will not be bored!
I have a nephew Yom Tov, which I believe is a very common name. Pesach I know as a last name and a first.
WOTW, I do not have children of age yet, I am simply stating facts of cases that I know. I dont think these are exceptions. The boy that drove us to the airport was in yeshiva learning a whole day, this was at night. He must be very tight on cash. There are bucherim that get jobs to pack away the sefarim, this is not instead of their learning this is in addition to.
There are boys that do not come to Israel with enough spending money, many of them find ways to make money. Once when leaving from a trip to Israel, my husband’s friend (then not yet married, learning there) approaced him and said he borrowed someones car and is driving someone to the airport, for 120 shekel, he will take us too. That is cheaper than taxi so we went with him. I assume he charged the other guy 120 as well, and I wouldnt be surprised if he found someone in the airport to bring to Yerushalayim for another 120 or more.
This reminds me of a real embarrassing story that happened to me, though not on a date. We have a girl in our office that is not frum – We will call her Sara. Right near me sits a Lubavitch girl that is eavily involved in Kiruv. SO I wanted to instant message the Lubavitch girl about Sara. Accidently since I was thinking about sara, I clicked sara’s name and started to send a message.
I wrote – Is sara jewish
Sara – yes.
me – so why dont you get to work.
Sara – what do you mean
me – you know what to do, your work
sara – why are you talking in riddles
me- about becoming frum
Then Sara truned away from her computer to look at me, she asked me outright, I dont understand what you are trying to say.
By that time I realized my mistake and I was mortified. I quickly tried to cover up and was happy that I didnt write anything more straight out. SInce then I made it my business to be extra nice to sara. Until she commited a terrible crime and was asked to leave the office. I dont know what she is up to today. But I am very very careful when I text message, instant message or send an e-mail. I am sort of parinoid.
aries2756, back on topic, I just listened to a speaker that didnt have children for 10 years. She was giving advice to outsiders on what to say and what not to say, and an outlook for pple in her situation. One thing she spoke about is that pple do not mean harm. Pple give advice, they give segulos etc she said they mean your best. Try to swallow your pride, thank them, and move on. She stressed that this is not easy, but dont let other outsiders make your challenging situation more stressful than it already is.
Though, she wasnt talking about shiddchim her advice applies to other challenges as well.
hello99,many boys are not very frugal. I have a brother in law that is learning in the Mir. He is a real masmid, would not miss a seder or zman tefilla, but likes to be comfortable, and enjoys nice things (like many of us). Mir serves 3 meals, but he’d prefer to buy supper, either go out to eat or quick takeout; schwarma, shnitzel… He enjoys the bagel shop, or pizza for lunch. He travels around by taxi (as apposed to bus) and occasionally, he and his friends will rent a car for a shabbos getaway to Miron or Tzfas. Nothing harmful, like I said, he is really ehrliche boy that doesnt make trouble, but he ends up spending a nice amount of money a month. All these little things add up…(and I am not talking about laundry and utilities)
One day was my sister was cradling her infant, her 5 year old son told her- Ma, open your mouth as wide as you can, I want to see how the baby was able to come out of it.
A blonde was filling out paperwork at a doctors office.
The document said –
Who to contact in case of emergency ___________ Relationship ___________.
So she filled in:
Who to contact in case of emergency: My Dad 718-853-…. Relationship: Good
Oomis “They will have job interviews, doctor visits, hospitalizations, service people, business dealings, even if it the business they inherited from Momma and Poppa, and they had BETTER know how to speak properly to all these people and not sound like uneducated socially awkward fools.”
Pple can actually go to job interviews, doctor visits, and apply for section 8 without going to collage, and without sounding like “uneducated socially awkward fools”!!
I am not anti collage, I just don’t believe that everyone has to go in order to succeed in life and in order to interact with the secular society.
oomis1105, I know my office is unique and I know many pple face challenges in the work place but it is different than collage where the atmosphere is that of a comfortable classroom setting, where boys and girls just shmooze while waiting for the teacher to come in and after class.
I wanted to bribe a little neighbor into something I offered her a glow in the dark sticker. I explained to her that if you go inot a very dark room, or if it is very dark the stickre will light up. She asked me “if I close my eyes, is that dark enough to see it?”
oomis1105, I work in a mixed, high pressured office. My boss is frum, so the room I sit in has only female workers in it. Most of the communication is through Instant messaging with the rest of the workers and with my boss its mostly e-mail. My boss clearly explained to the non religious men in the office that the girls are not allowed to chit chat with them for religious purposes. Though sometimes there are guys that try and we just answer yes, no..etc
I have a workmate that got a diff job, because she felt the level of tznius was not up to par.
There are some women that are very sensitive to tznius in the workplace. I respect it.
mazal77, We will be buying furniture soon as well IY”H, (meanwhile we are renting a furnished apt) so I checked out Bob’s. Seems like a nice simple place with great prices!
Check it out!
oomis1105, the stigma is since most colleges have co-ed classes. SO in my typical real BY type class, not a single girl goes to college for that reason. Many pple that want to further their education either opt to take the Sara Schenirer course or Raizel Rite college courses, since these are done in frum, only female classes and I believe the professors are all female as well.
Some friends have taken accounting or other college courses online, for the same reason, to avoid sitting through endless co-ed classes and mingling with boys. These friends have gotten very recognized degrees landing them up with lucrative jobs.
I understand that you cannot become a dentist, surgeon or sonographist this way, but many pple are willing to give up those titles to avoid spending many years in college type enviroments.
Phyllis, I wonder if u know how true what u r writing is.
oomis1105, My husband was 20 years old when I married him. He was very mature, had his head on his shoulders and is very bright. I dont think it is fair to classify boys ages 20-21 as “too young and immature”. All boys are different. This is something you can find out in information and maturity is also something you can tell on a boy when you are dating.
I am sooooo in the mood of a REAL tuna bagel….
how much water
LET ME SEE IF I
> GOT THIS RIGHT…
>
> IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN
> BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD
> LABOR.
>
> IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER
> ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED
> INDEFINITELY.
>
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> IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET
> SHOT.
>
> IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE
> JAILED.
>
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER
> ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM
> AGAIN.
>
>
> IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER
> ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE
> SEALED.
>
> IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER
> ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO
> ROT.
>
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU
> GET
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> 1 – A JOB,
> 2 – A DRIVERS LICENSE,
> 3 – SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
>> 4 – WELFARE,
> 5 – FOOD STAMPS,
>> 6 – CREDIT CARDS,
> 7 – SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A
> HOUSE,
> 8 – FREE EDUCATION,
> 9 – FREE HEALTH CARE,
> 10 – A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
> 11 – BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC
> DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
> 13 – AND YOU CAN VOTE DEMOCRAT.
>
> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE
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I hope you guys are exaggerating when you say pple date 100 girls/boys. How many do pple actually date? I have a cousin that dated 17 girls before he got married. We thought it was because he just dated anyone that gave him a yes. Do pple actually date over 20-30 prospects? One family member dated 4 my sister 9 friends 4-7 assuming this average…
I never heard that expression before! That is really funny. To me a Tuna Bagel is what u get in Sam’s Bagel shop!
RECESSION – When your neighbor loses his job
DEPRESSION – When you lose yours
RECOVERY – When Obama loses his
According to Halacha, a boy cousin and a girl cousin have the same status as a boy and girl that are not related at all.
No one can do anything to help or harm you other than Hashem who is in total control.
Yiddish iz zayer vichtig!
How about taking them to a nice mall. Then go out for lunch to someplace that none of you have ever been before. For example if you go to Freehold mall in NJ, try an eatery in Deal. Then go home and play a good game of scrabble or monopoly. Together cook a gourmet dinner of their favorite foods. That will be a day to remember.
With shidduchim you have to be sort of “picky”. Like mom12 says, once this “suggestion” becomes a spouse, they are not disposable, returnable, exchangeable etc.
I know someone that used to say “when it comes to shidduchim I am picky.” Yes, every shidduch had to have a family match, similar backgrounds, thorough research about the boy/girl middos etc etc etc etc…
B”H all of her children are married.
How about Novaminsk, really serious boys, great products come out of there.
we have a program in which I had to submit a list of the sites i need open. Similar to a white list, besides for the fact that here and there is will let me onto other sites at random, such as today i got onto Huggies pamper’s website while it wasnt on my list etc. Every time I want to go onto a website and it is blocked, its a very good feeling. I feel that I am protecting myself and my family.
bombmaniac, that too!
Can anyone gues why I chose this name? SOmeone that bakes is a baker, and someone that sings is a singer, and someone that posts is A …..
truthsharer, but the org still gives you a receipt.
telegrok, I undertand.
This is just beautiful !
telegrok, There are so many Jewish org. that are in dire need of funds. what would make you give your money elsewhere?
I know many pple that dont pay the shadchan a fee but send some chocolateed for shabbos and a bouquet of flowers – $20-25.
We tried having a sep checking account for Maaser but it became too complicated, when org. didnt deposit the checks right away, we had a hard time keeping track.
I think keeping a notebook is is the safest way. We write down out monthly sallaries combined, figure out maaser and mark down to whom we paid it. It is time consuming but so is building a sukkah and cooking for guests!
sms007, I would be scared of such a boy!
translators online are good for one word sentences. Like if you want to tell your cleaning lady in spanish to change linen, or come tuesday morning, the the translators are great. But if you are trying to translate a whole paragraph, then call someone that knows the language!
It’s so hard that so many children today dont live near their parents. Especially those that grew up in Boro Park and now moved to Lakewood to build their own homes. Most of the Parents in BP dont have their children living nearby…That I find is hard. Our children need grandparents.