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Poshite Yid 613Member
I didn’t understand your comment mepal
Poshite Yid 613MemberThe World Chicken Protection (WCP)
Poshite Yid 613MemberReb MJ is a shadchan and he will help
Poshite Yid 613MemberI made a kol korei to make a maacho’oh that MJ was called Reb 😉
Poshite Yid 613MemberI still would prefer to go to a concert… which one should i go to at brooklyn college or mbc
Poshite Yid 613MemberI just looked into the bushkill link. Looks like nature
Poshite Yid 613MemberThe policeman sepereated me and MJ into two different cars and sped off to the station
Poshite Yid 613MemberI still want to know about this Bushkill place
Poshite Yid 613MemberBut my broker somehow got through via the police walkie talkie
Poshite Yid 613MemberAnd MIchael Jackson quickly hid the chicken crates in his pocket and got arrested for just being who he is
Poshite Yid 613MemberMichael Jackson came back and collected his diamonds, and then he offered you to be your assistant.
Poshite Yid 613MemberMy tayvoh from that Rambam is growing… I’m just waiting to pounce 😉 Who’s maskim?
Poshite Yid 613MemberWe don’t moiser yidden, I guess, in extreme cases ask a shayloh.
September 23, 2009 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660567Poshite Yid 613MemberBtw Reb Elchonon Wasseerman in Kovetz Shiurim Chelek 2 klers a shayla if it’s mutor to learn limudei chol lishmoh, for the geshmak of the limud., I think he came out it was ossur, unless if it was for parnossoh
Poshite Yid 613MemberI took the backpack of diamonds and smacked a passerby with it. He called the police on me
Poshite Yid 613MemberHe threw me a backpack full of diamonds, and a 30-vol. list of shidduchim
September 23, 2009 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660559Poshite Yid 613Memberstarwolf that is disrespect to say that science knows more even if its because they have “more access”, and ames, i learned math very well (in fact skipped many grades up for math) but, I quit after Algebra 2. And no, it did not enhance my avodas Hashem. And btw “CHazal didn’t teach us science or math” Did they teach you Torah either? You’re gonna answer yeah just pick up a sefer. Guess what, maybe they taught us science and math too, just pick up a sefer. And to everybody (except for those who have antiHashpoah) even if you’re not gebentched with boredom to science books, is it still worth the bad Hashpoah even if you’re nispoel from it?
Poshite Yid 613MemberBut is there any real zemiros, not just excerptions from davening? Take Shabbos, you have koh ribon, yo zeh michubad etc.
Poshite Yid 613MemberAll of a sudden, a nice looking Rolls Royce whooshed by
September 23, 2009 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660557Poshite Yid 613MemberAt the end of the day is learning science spiritually dangerous? It depends how, but the classical way of this age dihaynu learning the present day books is for sure dangerous (and if you’re one of those amazing people who have anti-Hashpoah, kol hakavod).
September 23, 2009 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660551Poshite Yid 613Memberames, it doesn’t. But one still has a chiyuv to fight for Kavod Hatorah. Why are comments that mevazeh Chazal allowed to go through?
September 23, 2009 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660550Poshite Yid 613Memberstarwolf I was forced to learn science for many years in school. And same here, how sad can someone be basking in their ignorance of human brain worship, and not admitting that Chazal knew better than him, even in science. It is a major bizayon to be mefakfeik about their knowledge of science, and I now see why science is spiritually dangerous, by the comments you and otthers have said.
Poshite Yid 613MemberJust then a guy named Elchonon came around and bailed my car out with a smile. “Whenever you need me just call “Chuni”
September 23, 2009 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660548Poshite Yid 613Memberstarwolf, what about the Chazon ISh? I heard ashiur from a choshuveh rosh kollel that was praising the Chazon ISh’s knowledge of medicine he even adviced top brain surgeons despite ever picking up a medicine book. The rosh kollel said he knew it from “kol haoseik batorah lishmah zocheh lidvarim harbeih”
Poshite Yid 613MemberIf you give me a heter to bring an electric guitar and everything else on yomtov
Poshite Yid 613MemberI still had enough to give to tzedaka
September 23, 2009 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660545Poshite Yid 613Memberanon ( I’ll forget about you minusing things off) still the whole yesod of scientific thought even if it some innocent “simply the observations of some scientists” is EVIDENCE. That’s the whole scientific method, if you learned about it. You make a hypothesis, you need to find evidence. They challenge our mesorah of Har Sinai and just about everything because you must have EVIDENCE. Our answer is obvious: How many times has somebody bug u to prove something and u say, “I’ve seen it with my own eyes, I don’t need to prove it to u. We were at Har Sinai, atoh horayso lodaas ki hashem hu elokim ain od milvado – Hashem opened up the shomayim and showed us He was there, and non other (Rashi)! So the whole scientific method of analysis and everything that distorts everything is enough of a reason why not to learn it. If you happen to get an eidel science book (there aren’t much but I”ve seen a few that are semi eidel) then ok. But I still feel being mispoel from the briah is much better. I wouldn’t trust any of those kfira sponsered science books anyways.
I heard a moshel from a choshuve Rosh yeshiva that imagine you have a guy at NIagra Falls, and then he has a postcard. He’s standing right in front of Niagra Falls, but staring at the photograph saying how beautiful this is . That guy’s a fool he’s at Niagra FAlls!
Anyways, even if science books don’t negatively impact you because you’re so sure of yourself that you have an iron wall surrounding your neshoma (unfortuanantely I wasn’t blessed with anti-Hashpoah TM just boredom towards science books) there are so many people that got harmed! Just look at some of the people earlier in this article who were mevazeh Chazal about their knowledge of science! Didn’t the gedolim put somebody’s books on cherem for that?
Poshite Yid 613MemberThe secretary of Keren HaTzvi said that Antarctica is stuffed, and they are now working on Iceland
September 23, 2009 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660541Poshite Yid 613MemberTo the defense of myself: Science books happen to be boring, and that’s just a matonoh min hashomayim, but my point is: They are spiritually dangerous, laden with kefira, freethinking, and the a to z s of Webster’s Atheistic and Agnotistic Dictionairy ( if it existed).
September 23, 2009 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660537Poshite Yid 613MemberOf course, the microscope just make you more and more nispoel! I’m talking about LEARNING science books(Boring).
September 23, 2009 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660536Poshite Yid 613MemberFIne. Which blade of grass do you want to know about? I’ll check it up, and get back to you. Anyways, my point was that “learning science instills me with love and fear of HAshem” depends: From science books: No, quite the opposite, at least from my experiences. From nature and a person that looks around and enjoys the world without the brainracking silly depressing theories and hypothesises (and those horrendous vocabulary terms they’re latin or something), then this is where you get yiras shomayim from. I think many seforim say the beauty of pondering nature to lead to emunoh and stuff.
Poshite Yid 613MemberShe told me the dentist wants me to call him back
September 23, 2009 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660535Poshite Yid 613Member“Poshite Yid, but the info isn’t accesible!” So it isn’t but it’s there, and that’s my point, and if somebody really learns he’ll get there! Or maybe we’ll get that nice Rav to write up a sequel “Yalkut Historiya shel Blades of Grass min HAtorah”
September 23, 2009 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660534Poshite Yid 613MemberWhen did I say girls should learn Shas and Medroshim? I said it’s all contained there. MAybe some nice RAv oneday will publish “Likuttei Maamorei Chazal al Habriah”. And I still hold nature walks and star gazing are 10000000000 times better than science books! They’re so boring overloaded in kfira! I used to think nature and animals and stars and chemicals etc. were fun until I saw science! The whole think is miyusdik
September 23, 2009 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660532Poshite Yid 613MemberBy the way Justaguy “The Torah is not meant to give us the technical details of creation” The Torah is the blueprint of the world (Medresh Rabbah) and I saw the Groh (I forget where) said that the history of every single blade of grass is found in the Torah.
Poshite Yid 613MemberI hung up on him right away when I heard his bad news
Poshite Yid 613Memberall of a sudden my nose was very itchy, and my four cellphones all began to ring a t the same time
Poshite Yid 613MemberAll of a sudden a clown walked into the store and squirted me with a hose
September 23, 2009 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660528Poshite Yid 613MemberYes, Chazal have wrote about the wonders of the universe. All over Shas and Medroshim. And btw why do you need anybody to write a book a bout it? Go on a hike in the woods, look at the stars, you’ll be astounded about the briah. Besides, science books nowadays are laden with kfirah which is ossur to read. When I used to be in yeshiva they forced me to go to science class and they were talking about a certain type of worm that I forget what exactly was but the point is the science book said, “It is so wondrous of a creature that it’s as if it was programmed by a programmer. But we know that it really just evolved blahh blah ” The science book couldn’t admit it! I don’t get it what’s your rush to learn science? I was forced to learn it, and it was pretty boring! I was always nispoel from the briah not science books – they made it boring and disgusting!
Poshite Yid 613MemberBut when I got to the store I saw the money he gave me was toy money…
September 23, 2009 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660523Poshite Yid 613MemberThe name of this is “Is learning science spiritually dangerous?” We got a little off topic about some arguement if Chazal knew science or not (chas veshalom). But this slightly off topic conversation proved one thing: Learning science is spiritually dangerous – if that’s the type of things people can say about Chazal after learning it. The Chazon Ish advised top brain surgeons, and knew psychology very well. He never left the beis medresh or chas veshalom read those books. Once a man askded the Chazon ISh if he can learn psychology, and the Chazon Ish asked him “Why can’t you learn it from Chumash-Rashi?” Every few years scientists change their theories, and in a hundred years they’ll be laughing at using carbon14 to prove ages of fossils and things. But then, they’ll have weirder theories then. The point is, we should stick to Chazal because they’re always right. “Kol Haoseik batorah lishmah zocheh lidvarim harbeih”, “Hafoch boh vahapoch boh ki kuloh boh”
September 22, 2009 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660498Poshite Yid 613MemberAnd btw Wolf I didn’t mean you should jump the guns and say that the world is chas veshalom 15.3 trillion years old and lice come from eggs… I meant to give it some iyun or ask a rav to really find out. I keep on refering to the example of bishul on Shabbos. Chazal say that in this kli it’s bishul, this one it’s not. Maybe (idk) the fertilization of lice is meshuneh from other briyos, or maybe their eggs are too small or something ( I be’emes dont know) But I think Chazal meant what they meant even physically you just have to find out what they mean. It could take time.
Poshite Yid 613MemberLav davka, sometimes places get a lot of people move in or out of to. Most frum places I’m guessing all have similar birth rates (I’m probably wrong, but still…), so it’s a question of moving.
September 22, 2009 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660493Poshite Yid 613MemberWolfish, please be mochel me if you had the impression I was accusing you. If you look earlier in my comments I mentioned a mayseh that had happened with me where a guy disgusted me by paskening (?) it was ossur midioraysa to kill lice on Shabbos. I just felt that the conversation was close to the border between trying to understand the Chazal better(which we should really ask a choshuveh Rav like R’ Chaim Kanievsky) and the apikorsus of being mevazeh talmidei chachomim of Gemoro, of which the least knew how to mechayeh meisim (I read that in a letter of Chazon Ish). But dont get the impression I was pointing a finger on you, and If I gave that impresssion I’m sorry.
September 22, 2009 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660486Poshite Yid 613MemberThe important thing is that at the end of the day it is mutor to kill lice on Shabbos. If you chap a geshmak to farenfer the reason (which isn’t metaphysical, although Chazals to have secret layers) just like by bishul there is a Chazal’s definition which is very different from ours, kol hakavod.
September 22, 2009 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660481Poshite Yid 613MemberI think (you can argue) but I think to say they’re wrong is a horrible bizoyon to chazal. End of the day, it’s mutor to kill lice on Shabbos. Btw I’m not mad at u if u dont understand I’m just crying about how people can think such hava aminos about Chazal. Plz dont put up a fight even if u dont agree
September 22, 2009 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm in reply to: Is Learning Science Spiritually Dangerous? #660478Poshite Yid 613MemberI was once told by a person that he holds it is a safek doraysa l’chumra so it is completely forbidden to kill lice. I’m disgusted by the freethinking, and lack of emunas chachomim. We have to accept that Chazal were above us and our brains. Btw not that this is emes, but maybe all Chazal meant that l’inyan the m’lochoh of netilas neshoma it has to come from a certain type of egg etc. like by bishul Chazal were koveia that a kli sheini is ossur, kli shlishi is mutor etc. We should use our brains to reconcile Chazal and find out biyun what they mean, not chas veshalom ridicule them and forbid killing lice
Poshite Yid 613MemberI think LA is growing, and getting a lot more frummer and yeshivish, thanks to the Torah instituitions there
Poshite Yid 613MemberI once heard a mayseh about the CHofetz Chaim that he once asked some chasidim why didn’t they do yom kippur koton and they said b/c our rebbe didn’t, and he said your rebbe was a big tzadik so he didn’t need it – but you guys need a yom kipppur every thirty days. It’s kind of along the same point, people need regular carwashes.
Poshite Yid 613MemberIf you are really thrown inside your davening, and shuckling hard etc. it makes it pass fatser (and more meaningful), and then if you space out for a couple of minutes here and there, it’s not so bad. “Echad Hamemaet vechad hamarbeh, ubilvad sheyechaven es libo leshomayim” (I hope I quoted that right:)
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