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And I don’t lightly call someone a sonei Hashem. I wouldn’t call most reshaim that. It’s a pretty bad level.
But, Hashem also says that ????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????. Hashem hates our enemies. So, my simple math, since the NK hate the Jews, Hashem hates them. And since hate goes both ways, we can quite confidently say that they are ????? ?. So we are supposed to hate them.
hate hate hate.
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We’re gonna do an experiment. Without googling or looking it up, tell us how tall and how heavy Michael Brown was.
Truck drivers are trained to drive safely without killing people. So, coffeeaddict, in your situation why didn’t he just drive safely away? Huh? Huh?
Its a bigger mitzva to make fun of you though.
Wilson was a Cop and Cops are supposed to be trained to deal with and arrest people without killing them. If in fact Wilson’s life was endangered by an unarmed teenager then he was doing something wrong, or was incompetent.
I don’t agree with that premise.
oh my. this is awkward.
ok guys, try not to bump any of the alteh bochur threads anymore. I didn’t realize he was on the CR and reading them.
sorry about that, DY (aka AR)
Who says? He could have died from a million things between then and now. Maybe he would have gotten in a car crash or died in a skiing accident.
Someone who is learning gemara should be able to read it!
What? That makes no sense. Can you read computer code? Do you use computers anyway?
Hmm, and what do you think the punishment is for supporting those who murder our children?
I bet Hashem is just gonna love it. Probably sitting there smiling as you cheer on our murderers.
?@mdg it seems as though your incapable of answering properly therefore you hurl insults
Aha you ran out of things to say because you know your wrong so you insult me instead
It seems you only have one line in your playbook. Better go ask your terrorist buddies for a couple more.
Why can’t you just hire some idiot to sit next to you and make the leining and then you’ll analyze the gemara?
Same as you would if you wanted to analyze a document in chinese?
Not really, I’ve been insulting you the whole time.
I’m not trying to convince you. I’m just enjoying making fun of you.
Let me teach you something, loser.
The churban bayis rishon also happened because of our aveiros, but you didn’t see Yirmiyah hugging and defending Nevuchadnezar.
The churban bayis sheni also happened because of our aveiros, but you didn’t see rabban yochanan ben zachai hugging and defending Titus.
And you don’t see me defending Hitler.
No, it’s only reshaim from the eirav rav like you who would make that ridiculous jump. You just hate Hashem, and hate the Jews.
And it was your grandparents who made the egel and are the cause of all the galus. It’s no wonder you love galus so much.
Apy: don’t engage him. It just gives his ideas legitimacy.
How about you tell us all the points that you disagree with them, and then you can explain why you like to appear publicly in support of them.
There’s a rule in the middle east that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
Maybe.
But there’s a different rule that applies everywhere: the friend of my enemy is my enemy.
Because you literally agree with the terrorists on every single point.
You are sick, my enemy. Very sick.
It’s more important to educate yourself about the similarity between yourself and terrorists.
Well, you should ask that “if I hate jews, do I haate myself?”
Which is a cute question, but of course we know it is very possible to hate oneself.
Besides, as discussed, their azus suggests they may be from the eirev rav, so we could easily understand that perhaps the eirev rav hates the bnei avraham yitzchok vyaakov.
What’s my grandparents have to do with it? We aren’t allowed to have laws just because my great great grandparents were immigrants?
And suppose they did sneak in–so now we should just declare the country a free for all?
Only obama could maake such an argument, and only a liberal could believe it.
No you nitwit, I’m saying that it never has been used as suchan and anyone who would say that is an antisemite, and if they happen to be jewish, it is a decent rayah that they might be from the erev rav, according to the gra.
You have to agree with me that the quote that I posted from rabbi Weiss is right though
Sure, if you are a moron. But if you have any normaally working brain cells, then you have to laugh and cry at the same time instead.
I think I once already did that. Can someone link that, and then maybe we can just close this thread?
The chutzpah. Who do these kids think they are coming to learn without any leining skills? Better they should go work in kalba savua’s fields.
yah, charlie, you just keep on with it. I only hope your medical research is more rigorous than your political research.
The reason to quote an excerpt out of context is clearly to defame President Obama and to cause us to thing more poorly of him. I think there may be some d’oraita violations here.
It is not one bit better in that context.
The sheer chutzpah that man has. Read my lips: the violence is from the Palestinian side. All of it with very rare exceptions (the kid this summer).
And exactly what d’oraisa would you be talking about? I can’t think of any.
(Also when you get a chance you should bump your thread about Obama deporting all the illegals as hard as he can.)
So apparently the head of the NK was beaten by several moslem men in Amsterdam.
He says it is Israel’s fault.
Bpyidd/voosepis:
Are you an actual NK-nik, or are you just a sympathizer? That is, at the next demonstration, would I see you there holding a sing about how bad I am, and yelling some maniacal something and not making eye contact with any jews?
There your sworn enemies don’t include me
Well, there are two parties who are sworn enemies. We aren’t categorizing you. You’re free to choose which party you are in. But you’re in one or the other.
So I should or shouldn’t go to a doctor?
You should. But not that kind.
I’ll stick to trying to be like popa l’gabay pizza.
I’m waiting to taste your chicago style then.
She was always eating. I calculated she was eating at least 1/2 of the total time we spent together. I figured, if she eats half the time she is awake, she’s gonna be real fat.
You make it sound like an accident. Don’t you think it was probably the Jews who did it?
Wow such hatred I never saw
I’m confused–I thought you knew NK people.
a normalist
It’s nice to see a topic that everyone in the CR can agree on.
The NK are definitely enemies of the jews.
And enemies of Hashem, by extension. ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ??????
How do you know it as a fact? Even so, that still doesn’t prove they are jewish.
Well, so there are two elements of “frum jew”. Frum, and jew.
I sincerely doubt they are jewish, since they do not display the middos of zerah avraham avinu. They are neither rachmanim nor bayshanim. Instead, they spend most of their time doing achzarius and azus. I have no information regarding chessed, but avraham avinu’s descendants have all 3. Perhaps they are the erev rav? The gra says you can find the erev rav in each generation because they have azus.
As for frum, you say they keep taryag mitzvos. I don’t know if they keep shabbos or not, or if they keep kashrus or not. But I do know they have distanced themselves from the community of the shomrei torah umitzvos, and so should not be surprised to find themselves reciprocally distanced.
I’m not interested in debating the substance. I’ve fallen into that trap before.
Debating narishkeit just makes you also naarish. See e.g. half my threads.
You seem genuinely surprised by what I’m saying.
Just how did you think frum jews view NK? Did you think we view them as just another group of frum jews with whom we have some disagreements in hashkafa?
We think they’re a bunch of lunatics who have nothing to do with our community. Basically, the exact same way regular Christian Americans view Westboro Baptist.
Right, from the shoresh of naar–having to do with children
The two are completely different
That’s true.
Westboro’s vendeta is at least about a real mitzva–albeit blown out of any recognition, while NK’s is stam narishkeitin.
I think the more apt comparison is that both pick on one small part of their religion which they then blow out of all context and cause it to subsume their entire religion in a way that seems calculated to offend their coreligionists.
Think of them as the neturei karta of christianity.