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Thanks.
(Hey chad pami! Look; I thanked someone.)
Well, then what do you think about ignoring glares while driving?
80:
What do you think about the culpability argument I’ve been representing?
(and what about this sentence?)
If someone is a moser, but thinks he is doing the right thing, do we still kill him?
aries:
I don’t have good numbers on molesting. I’ll make numbers up.
What if 60% if molested became molesters? Would you say it is all bad choices?
If it’s 20%, isn’t it at least a strong contributing factor?
(Further imagining that the population at large has a say, 5% rate.)
Ok, Let’s say you are correct in this instance. Tell me, at what point would you say that the blame is mitigated.
If you say never, we have nothing to talk about. If you say any number, now we’re just negotiating.
gavra:
Do you have any idea how much more money our communities would have to support our institutions if we had an Ayn Rand tax policy?
I’m betting we as a community put in a lot more than we take out.
The Torah tells us not to be greedy or narrow minded.
How does one know if one is narrow minded? How do you know you are not narrow minded? How much real thought did you give to the responses on this thread? When you started the thread, were you looking to convince us or looking for answers?
If you were really looking for answers, would you tie your questions to an election issue the day before the election? You want to talk about something, ask one question at a time,in a few days,and we can talk about it. Maybe you’ll convince me.
Usually ignore them. It’s not worth getting in a road rage incident, or having them follow you home and slash your tires.
Sof davar:
I don’t mind that you are appalled at me. I assume it is because your teacher yelled at you in third grade.
🙂
But really, I do think so. How do you know I’m wrong? Does it make sense that I’m wrong? Isn’t the difference between the murderer and the president where and how they grew up? It bothers me to think that also, but isn’t it true?
squeak:
I don’t think I am promoting acting any differently than you are promoting. I don’t think we quite agree on their level of culpability, but I hope you’re at least willing to move past the “there are no excuses at all” mantra of some.
Now let’s find something else to bicker about. Like what to eat at Carlos and Gabby’s. I’d like to warn everyone that the one in Queens in under the Queens Vaad, so if you only eat the CRC from Brooklyn, I don’t know what you will do.
squeak:
Ok. So what is the way that seems most correct based on our understanding?
I’m not advocating keeping them in their jobs. I’m fine with going to the police. I just don’t like the spirit of disgust and revulsion.
Like I said earlier; are you so sure it couldn’t be you.
squeak:
A. More of my comments are serious than some think.
B. Fine, maybe I’m going to far, but I really think there should be a greater understanding. We can only blame bad choices so far. At a certain point, it is disingenuous to blame everything on bad choices.
I don’t think I am wrong in asserting that among the “risk factors” for molesting, having been molested is higher than being a rasha.
I don’t ask you to fully excuse molesters, certainly their choices play a large part. I do ask that we have a certain understanding in our criticism.
I perceive that societies feel a need to blame those who harm us. We don’t want to be told that killers and thieves are merely doing what they were programmed to do. All the evidence in the world is not enough to convince us that the real difference between the guy on death row and the president is that one grew up on the south side of Chicago, and one grew up in Hawaii; not their character.
If we were to find out that Hitler was really suffering from a mental illness which was genetic and uncontrollable, and he is not in Hell, how would you accept that? Why? Do you need to blame a person? Why can’t we just trace things back to G-d only?
If you found out that the most horrible molester in our community was really not very able to choose and was not held very accountable in heaven, would that bother you? If it would, is your condemnation really a product of true belief or of what you want to think?
Who goes to Florida?
Florida has a good airport though, it connects to the Caribbean destinations.
I went to Belize. It was great. We stayed on Caye Caulker. Our “hotel” cost 12.50 a night, and slept 3.
Blah Blah Blah politics. Blah Blah Blah republicans. Blah Blah Blah Democrats. Blah Blah Blah abortion. Blah Blah Blah gay marriage. Blah Blah Blah Israel. Blah Blah Blah taxes. Blah Blah Blah money for yeshivos. Blah Blah Blah tzedaka.
There; I said everything. Now everyone can go vote for who they believe in ideologically, and we will all pretend we are being frum by doing so.
Mw:
We fire that teacher.
Look, our communities are either not able or not willing to support the current standard of education. We need to face that, and live with it.
I’m not supporting “so right”.
BNOS SARA IS NOT CLOSER TO THE DINING ROOM- BNOS CHAVA IS!! Because buildings 5 and 6 (BC) are technically about 2 inches closer to the DR. (I was in building seven for a year, so I know poppa bar abba, where you getting your info from???
I’ve taught on the campus for 23 years.
(And I’m a state senator. chad pami: work this into your popa analysis.)
You want to volunteer? Come by my house on friday, I’ll find something for you.
One Chol hamoed pesach, we went to the zoo. We amused ourselves by asking chacha what wine would pair well with each animal we passed. The giraffe, wolf, hippo, polar bear, etc.
love coffee:
Why? What is the problem? You really don’t care about each other. You’ve been together for 3 years and still are holding by first month of school.
Now you want to be friends because you think it’s nebby to not be close coming out of high school? What kind of friendship is going to come out of ulterior motives like that?
What did you mean by your brother?
Double class sizes.
The frum community cannot afford 15-20 kids in a class. We need 30-35.
Half the teachers won’t be able to handle it. Luckily, we will only need the other half.
oomis:
Are you catching up to squeak’s old age?
I asked your brother. He said he’s not your brother.
so right, you are SO WRONG
Not fair! You can’t exploit his screenname to slur him. (I have been tempted to many times.) (And no calling me fat!)
Best bang for the buck: Auchentoshen, the cheapest one.
Best bottle under $40: Balvenie Doublewood.
Good bottle that won’t break the bank: Abunadh.
Most expensive bottle I’ve drunk, and which proved that expensive bottles are a waste of money: McCallan 25 year, $500; tastes a bit smoother than the 12 year, not 12 times better.
chad:
It’s true. I hate vacationing near jews. This past bein hazmanim, I went backpacking in Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons. It was great, except on the roads in Yellowstone, there were frum jews. We tried to stay off the roads.
Right, that’s why I wrote “mother?”. I didn’t know if you are a man or woman. I guessed woman, apparently incorrectly.
smart cookie:
Sorry, I haven’t been online. What is absurd is that you are not recognizing something as being a mitigating factor, and largely, an excuse, despite overwhelming evidence.
The fact of the matter is that if you were a man(are you?) and had been molested, you would very likely be a molester now. So when you hear about a molestation, you should cry for the child, and you should be angry at society for not doing more to stop it. But then, you should cry for the molester, and say, “there, but for the grace of G-d, go I”.
Sacrilege:
While your position seems reasonable, the truth is that moderates do not win. 2008 was a race between a moderate and a far left candidate; Obama won handily.
I imagine the reason is that moderates are not able to engender emotions and so cannot create movements.
I personally think moderates are dumb and simplistic. I am conservative, but I can see how someone would have different values than I have. Moderates seem to have no values, or no idea how their values translate into specific actions.
I tried all the codes on the bottom under the reply box.
Banking. They’ve got the most terrific banks anywhere.
smart cookie:
That is absurd.
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And now we all know what all those things do.
Hmmm. Looks like I don’t know how to use some of them.
chad pami:
I’m sorry for not looking at this sooner. Thank you for posting it.
I went to languages, and “added” hebrew. It says now that it is not enabled nor installed. What do I do next?
chad pami:
Thank you for responding to my question on how to type hebrew. I actually have not clicked on that thread, nor on the hakaras hatov in the CR thread.
I have great sympathy for your son in law who is trying to earn a living and does not want to have internet. It is very kind of you to volunteer your time to read and respond to his emails. He is lucky to have a mother? in law like you.
Wow! Sick monsters!
Did you all know that, by and large, molesters were molested themselves and that is why they do it. They are sick, but monsters?
Unless it is just coincidence that the monsters are the ones who got molested as kids.
He should either get an office, or a secretary, or internet at home, or a different business.
popa, is old age catching up with you?
More literally, I am catching up with it.
I would offer him $50 dollars less than I was being paid, if he would get rid of his TV.
Alternatively, I would threaten to break his kneecaps unless he gets rid of it.
Squeak and Wolf:
No, I agree with Wolf, he should get divorced. If he is not a kohen, he can then get remarried.
Maybe someone will conduct both ceremonies for a discounted bulk rate.
The difference between renting movies and a TV, is that renting a movie costs a couple bucks, while renting a TV costs much more.
Ok, I’m pretty sure you can take both advil and tylenol at the same time, the full dose of each. So you may want to try that.
That said, be very careful not to overdose on tylenol, or any acetaminophen product. I think you can go somewhat over the dose, but anything more can cause liver damage even the first time.
No, Chinese Rice Checkers is a game. You’re thinking of the Chili and Rolaids Consumers.
Helpful:
I’m sorry. I must have misunderstood your first statement. You intended it as a question. Like, “Does anyone know if people use the CRC of chicago?”
It depends how many milligrams of Ibuprofen each one has.
How did we get from social dating to Gehennom
It’s a natural progression from dating to marriage.
“You rely on that cRc from Chicago?
Theres an older larger well established CRC in Brooklyn.”
“CRC (Hisachdus) is one of the most reliable, yes, with greater standards. Your ignorance of it is irrelevant.”
Maybe in light of your second statement, you will take back your first statement. Ignorance of it is indeed irrelevant, whether of the one in chicago, brooklyn, or the Chinese Rabbinical Council.
“It is moral for innocents to be killed.”
I call that murder.
And you’d likely be a lot less smug if it were a family member who had been wrongfully convicted.
You should not call that murder. Murder in common law is an unlawful killing with malice aforethought. A killing sanctioned by the court is a lawful killing.
I would be less smug if my, say, wife, was wrongfully convicted. But I would be wrong. Not wrong to be upset, but wrong to think that it was immoral or murder.
Come now, do you consider every unfortunate result of a proper policy to be criminal? Would you indict the Canadian parliament on murder charges if someone’s medical care is delayed and he dies?
I cannot imagine any context in which this would be a productive thing to think or tell someone.