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If I knew what “shtam” meant, I would respond.
BP Totty? Is that you? Are you now a zaideh?
Popa’s take:
I’ve been through my share of this in my day. It seems to me that it has more to do with the person saying it than what is being said.
I never minded when a good friend, or a relative I was close to, said something. I minded the busybody aunt, or the obnoxious friend.
Nobody is saying that a mitzva tantz is not the mitzva of keitzad merakdim. All we are saying is that the particulars which make it unique are not from the machzor vitri.
As such, those particulars do not have that source. They probably have some source, but it is probably not 1000 years old. (This is not something which should bother chassidim; none of their unique minhagim are very old.)
I am astounded at this question. Why are you getting engaged to someone you are only lukewarm about? Does this really happen?
You say a guy did this after he was engaged? Well, the second girl is lucky she didn’t get stuck with a lunatic. I hope she thanked him.
Yes, this is why guys insist on many years of support. They want their wife to be able to have a million dollar husband.
(I figured if nobody had a serious response, I’d get involved.)
3 choices:
I like the first choice, and I don’t find it barbaric. Nobody is forcing anyone to come.
The second choice and third choice are the same, since we are always willing to accept sincere gerim.
Thanks for the cite. As you can see, all it says is that we bring the chasson and kalla, and they sit next to each other, and we dance in front of them.
Nothing which is inherent to the chassidich minhag of mitzva tantz is suggested.
Not to say it is a bad minhag, it just is not from the machzor vitri.
going on yeshiva world while doing homework or researching a paper is in no way hindering my spiritual development
Inasmuch as you only read Popa’s remarks.
16. I have seen the drivers who get their license to date. They drive terribly and dangerously, and are not confident on dates.
Do your kid a favor and teach him how to drive. If you’re too much of a wuss, hire a driving school.
Should kids be home for high school?
Maybe it depends what’s going on at home.
Do you have a good relationship with your kids. With your spouse?
If the sources only say that we dance in front of the kallah, that is not necessarily a “mitzva tantz”. All Jews dance in front of the kallah, as the gemara says, “ketzaid merakdim lifnei hakalla, Beis Shammai omrim- Kallah k’maves”. (I had to throw in my joke, I’ve said that at sheva brachos.)
I thought the defining part of a mitzva tantz, is the holding the gartel, and the spelling out Hashem’s name with dancing. Now, if you can find that in the machzor vitri, then we can dicker.
Me? I already said, I think it is hilarious. The term has no meaning, since nobody agrees on any meaning.
I like it. You are supposed to beautify the mitzvos; it shows that you love them.
Don’t you love the mitzva of kiddush? Didn’t they have golden cups in the beis hamikdash?
I am willing to accept one of these from anyone who will buy me one. I will even set up your daughter with one of my friends.
I say, “My religion considers women to be unclean, and untouchable. I don’t want to get into details.”
That is on interviews. I haven’t decided what I’ll do on the job.
brisker:
No no. This is a different pshat in modern yeshivish. I actually think my first one was the best, but everybody ignored it.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-does-modern-yeshivish-mean#post-166839
I think this thread is hilarious, since this terms is actually used, yet there does not seem to be a normative definition.
These jokes wouldn’t make sense about Jews. Now, if the jokes were about us having long noses and ripping people off, we might get insulted. Especially about the ripping people off.
Pashut: I think the topic of whether everybody should be learning their whole life is a good topic for discussion. I don’t know why you want to discuss it in the context of some politician getting in a spat with the head of his political party.
If you want to discuss the substance of the question, why get bogged down in the particulars of who was mevazeh who and who is from amalek.
trying: I just googled amsalem and that is what I got.
Wikipedia
David Amsalem (Hebrew: ??? ??????; born on 4 September 1971 in Israel) is a retired Israeli footballer currently the coach of Beitar Jerusalem.
He started his career with Bnei Yehuda and then joined Hapoel Tel Aviv whom he played for during the 1994-1995 season. He became the second Israeli to join Crystal Palace following Itzik Zohar who left just as Amsalem was signing.
He played for Beitar Jerusalem for three seasons 1995-1998. He started six games for the Eagles and played in a total of ten games for them. He was released from Palace in 1999 and joined Hapoel Haifa who he played for until the end of the 1999-00 season.
He made his return to Beitar Jerusalem in 2000 and played there for 8 and a half seasons until he decided to retire in July 2009 to take on the spot of assistant coach for the club.
Modern yeshivish is someone who learns from modern seforim, like the Avi Ezri, or Khilos Yaakov.
Please tell us more. Who is the Rabbi? What does he say? Who is pressuring him?
Well, at least they have very prompt live help. I guess you can spend more on customer service when you don’t have to spend on goods.
I a bit uncomfortable with using this as a basis for making decisions.
Mods: It is clean, I google translated it. You can put it up.
Au zoo, des animaux discutent des prochaines vacances :
– Et toi, le crocodile, ou vas-tu ?
I don’t know if it’s clean, but it is for me.
I think modern yeshivish is someone who goes to a modern yeshiva which was opened in the past 10 or 20 years.
So YU, BMG, CC, are all not modern, but a yeshiva like Paterson which is only about 20 years old is modern.
Is it in the rocky mountains? Does Denver really have 120 guys?
No tocar esta- Don’t touch this.
Maybe that is why you eat jelly donuts.
I know why I do.
What I am saying is that if he says “hasherutim bachutz ltzad smolah”, I will think he means taxis, and will just be confused. He should bear with my idiocy so that I will understand him.
Cash? I paid in gold bars. I don’t trust cash.
If you are talking to a foreigner, I think you should speak his broken English. If he says, “So after I am getting off the bus…”, you should not respond, “yes, after you get off the bus”. He thinks the way to say that is getting.
If you ask someone in Israel, ” Eifoh HaBeis Hikesei?”, You don’t want him to point you to the “sherutim”. I DON’T NEED A TAXI!
(Everyone please note a proper usage of “all caps”. I meant to yell.
cshapiro:
I know what they say. If we are thinking of the same saying, it cuts both ways.
I wasn’t making an assumption. I assumed (got me!) the question was in general, so I was giving my opinion about a part of the general. I specifically said, “If”.
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URGENT: Please say tehilim for Dr. Weissman who is very sick. Yosef ben chana
yeshivaguy:
Wow! I learned in Israel (as a bachur) and I was in Ramat Eshkol many times.
Maybe there are two places called ramat eshkol, because that was not the one I saw.
If the reason you don’t have money is because you are learing, I think it is important that your kids shouldn’t feel like they are deprived because you are learning.
Now, I don’t doubt that the better way would be to teach them to understand that learning is more important than money, and I am sure some posters will say that. Yet, if that does not come across properly- and in many cases it won’t- your kids will come to resent learning because of it.
So, I would say, make a super effort to find the money for your kids mishigasen so that they will appreciate learning.
Maserati.
(Calm down, I got it used.)
It doesn’t matter how long it would have taken. The point is there are no long term effects, so who cares?
I still disagree. I have never met an adult who was still talking baby talk. I just don’t see the harm.
metro:
I think you need to go back and read the posts in question.
your problems popa are more than I can possibly handle, perhaps a few month of intense therapy
Well, let’s see. Six months of therapy at even $200 a week is only $5,000. Any problem that can be solved for 5 grand is not too serious in my book.
Imagine if you could solve your marriage, or find someone to marry, for 5K- that’s like a tenth of the wedding.
In any event, there is nothing easier to solve than losing weight, because it is entirely physical. Almost every problem in life has psychological or emotional components, and that is the hard part.
You can’t solve your marriage for 5K because it also needs emotional adjustments. Just going through the motions of being a good husband is not enough.
You can’t just go through the motions of being a good parent, or teacher, or employee, or employer, or doctor, or lawyer, or indian chief.
To lose weight, you literally just need to eat less. You can just go through the motions, and you lose weight regardless of whether your heart is involved.
Indeed turkeys are a sheilah. I think we don’t really know why we eat them.
To me, this is an affirmation of mesorah. We eat turkeys because our fathers did and their fathers did, because the rabbonim a few hundred years ago said they could. Even though we find that decision suspect, we abide by it.
I usually enter the room with my finger up my nose to the third knuckle. I never have a problem.
Actually, I have never encountered negativity after refusing to shake. I explain with a smile that I can’t shake.
I don’t say that men can’t touch women, I just say I can’t shake. I don’t think there is any reason to get into the discussion.
RSRH:
I heard that one of the Brooklyn stores- I think it was the Hatbox- has suits with a 4 inch drop.
Also, I generally consider it better to adjust the pants than the jacket. I say make the jacket fit.
WIY:
Yes, good point.
popabar I did not slander people.
the fact is people DONT want to know
I have nothing to add.
Now as for your accusation that I am slandering rabbonim, I did not use anyones name.
These kashrus organizations like OU also put hechshierim on products that are not necessarily bishul or pas Israel….It says clearly in the SHulcan Aruch its a major averiah to eat these things if they are not bishul.
I have nothing to add.
so I will just say that it is a fact that foods which cannot be eaten before cooked such as the above mentioned examples need to be cooked by a Jew.
Incorrect. If they are not eaten raw, and are also served on royal tables. YD 113:1
Yanky:
Admitted, I was getting my information from the kolmus article which says the reason is so we should not have the stringency of shabbos two days in a row.
I suppose you are basing yourself on gemara Rosh Hashana 20a. The gemara relates a machlokes why they used to sometimes make a 30 day elul. One reason is so they shouldn’t leave bodies unburied for two days, and the other is so the vegetable shouldn’t wilt.
Accordingly, chazal did care about having multiple days in a row with an issur melacha. Indeed, our religion is not the uncaring religion you make it out to be.
Aries:
That was me! I thought you really meant it. I can’t believe it, you really don’t think I looked good!
Seriously though, I really like your story, it is the nicest thing I’ve read in a while. Thank you.
frumlady:
It is also a major aveira to slander people, especially rabbonim.
Also, you are lying. It does not say in the shulchan aruch that potato chips, granola bars, and breakfast cereal need to be bishul yisroel. (None of those things existed. Especially potato chips which had not yet been brought from America.)It is a major aveira to lie.
So I am asking is it ok to have non-jews preparing Kosher drinks without supervision? I dont know. Someone answer.
You don’t know? Based on your don’t know you are slandering most of the frum jews in America?
In any event, the answer is that it is ok.
No. It is not a matter of taking the time. I have the time; I don’t do it for other reasons.
Critical.
That reminds me. I once asked, why do I need to klop Latznu? I would never make leitzanus!
The answer is that according to the Chida, it probably includes other things like latzatzatznu, and I probably did whatever that is.