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I like Democrat Zell Miller, speaker at the 2004 Republican convention.
MDD is asking:
Since the policy of the torah is to force the rich to support the poor, and that is the same policy endorsed by socialism, shouldn’t I support a socialist agenda since that will fulfill the policy which I support- regardless of the theory.
I need to think about how I want to respond to that.
Remind me if I forget.
I suppose that is only fair and equal.
Sam:
You ask: But how are 100k boys marrying 90k girls? (And I don’t mean 90 kilo.)
I am having trouble wrapping my brain around it, but it clearly is true that there will be girls left over every year.a
For another riddle, see my new thread.
Also, it says that Yitzchok loved the food that Esav brought. It uses the word “ahev”.
What did Yitzchok give to the food?
I think being in love is a Jewish concept.
I don’t know if it makes sense to say you are in love with someone you have met 6 times, but most secular people would agree with that.
At the same time, it is absurd to pretend that no relationship exists between two people who have been dating for a while. If there was no relationship, you wouldn’t miss them when you break up.
Before it shows.
Aries:
I agree, it serves a purpose in moderation. I don’t really see any harm in giving it to your kids in appropriate amounts, and I think it reinforces the message of responsible drinking.
RE weddings:
I have been at many many weddings and have never seen the behavior which is criticized- even when many guys were drunk. In fact, at the weddings where everyone was stoned, we often got compliments on how nice it was that nobody was drunk.
Aries:
I agree, it serves a purpose in moderation. I don’t really see any harm in giving it to your kids in appropriate amounts, and I think it reinforces the message of responsible drinking.
RE weddings:
I have been at many many weddings and have never seen the behavior which is criticized- even when many guys were drunk. In fact, at the weddings where everyone was stoned, we often got compliments on how nice it was that nobody was drunk.
I don’t know. It seems to me that some parents who go way overboard and their kids think alcohol is from the devil. These kids never learn that alcohol can be drunk responsibly and in moderation.
I would imagine these are the kids who end up with alcohol issues.
Please remember:
Having more drive wheels helps you to not get stuck, since you have more wheels which can propel the car.
But, it does not help you brake. You will skid just as bad as my Honda civic. So please slow down.
I don’t understand this thread.
It seems as if the debate is whether we can prove that gedolim support going to college since many people who the posters here consider gedolim, went to college.
If the Novominsker went to college, it was before he was the Novominsker. I don’t rely on the the 20 year old Nachum Pelow, even if he was probably a nice boy. I rely on the Novominsker Rebbe as he is who he is today.
So I don’t understand what the proof is.
Maybe we should just debate the merits.
Popa has a problem with climate change theory, which I have never even seen anyone attempt to address.
The world has been warming and cooling as long as it existed. Even in very recent history (the past 500 years), we can point to climate change and have historical evidence. In 1700 CE, there was a “Little Ice Age” in Europe.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/ctl/cliihis.html
So, why is anyone surprised that the temperature is rising a couple degrees?
And why would you assume it is due to something we are doing?
If something has been happening for thousands of years and continues to happen, it is probably happening for the same reason as always.
Does anyone know anything to address this?
These New Yorkers. A few bit of snow falls and they are all in a tizzy.
A date. It is never to early to start worrying.
Beis din extracts at times money from the wealthy, if they refuse to give charity. Rova did it.
My issue with this comparison, is that beis din does it for the rich man’s benefit, because he is obligated to give charity.
Liberals believe that the poor are entitled to it, and that they can be tovea from the rich.
Pedigree does matter- for dogs and horses.
Sam I am:
The answer is yes.
Suppose in 1810, 100 of each were born; in 1811, 110 of each were born; in 1812, 120 of each; in 1813, 130 of each; and in 1814, 140 of each, and continuing to rise by ten per year.
It is now 1834, the 100 boys marry 100 of the girls, leaving 40 over.
It is now 1835, and there are 190 girls available- 40 left over and 150 born in 1815. The 110 “1811” boys marry 110 girls from the combined classes, leaving 80 over.
It is now 1836, and there are 120 boys, and 240 girls.
In 1837, there are 130 boys and 290 girls.
In 2010, if everyone is still alive, there will be tens of thousands of extra girls, but most of them will have already died unmarried.
That is the math.
You should stone him with your esrogim.
Please take a break for a few weeks. Your comments are really pushing the limit.
Smuggle cigarettes and sell them in Yeshiva.
Then, smuggle cigarettes and sell them in prison.
thanks!
(I’m 87 BTW)
so right:
Are we disagreeing?
sister bear:
My remark about doing it for the thank you was sarcastic, but the point is that you should not feel any different about it whether you get a thank you or not.
In any event, my main point was that people don’t always realize you held the door for them, and are not paying attention to you. I don’t think they are rude.
Yes.
G-d made man, then he made woman to help him.
The entire purpose of a woman’s existence is to solve the problem of “lo tov heyos ha’odom levado”.
Rent a boat, sail over to Cuba, and charge a few hundred dollars for rides.
Jews do not practice necromancy and this thread has been dead for quite some time.
Cholent never dies. It keeps coming back every few hours.
so right:
That is a problem, and it is probably not the most serious problem the couple will need to deal with in the course of their marriage.
I think it is a very appropriate question for a dating couple to discuss.
You should really first ask if it is the right thing to do.
Then, even if it is right, you may want to make a strategic decision to protect your market value.
You be normal. If you certainly say hi, and if you are at a point in the relationship where you should stop and talk, you do so.
In some circles, you will never be at that point in the relationship before getting engaged.
To each their own, and to some- their very own.
And good.jew- good point.
It is from a Double Barreled Detective Story.
Twain explained in later editions that the whole paragraph does not make sense and was written as a joke, and that he would have gotten away with it if he had left out the esophagus.
It is a fair question. I think girls should ask that to their dates.
I also think guys can ask their dates if they intend to make a good faith effort to maintain their appearance.
A guest post from Popa’s brother:
There is a very strong case against the American Girl doll. This is a long discussion let’s begin.
#1. Whereas, conventional dolls that children play with foster many good middos, among them caring for a baby, playing with a baby, and the like, the American Girl is an unfortunate opposite.
Children live vicariously through this doll and imagine themselves indulging in all kinds of vanity. It engenders selfish attitudes, and a fantasy of pursuit of physical pleasures.
I don’t understand the question.
It is the right thing to do if it is right for you. Most everyone will agree with that.
Guys who go to college at night get dates, but usually different ones than they might have gotten.
This makes sense since they are a different person.
This is good since that is who they are.
I don’t know why people who think you should be willing to marry an overweight girl, think it is helpful to point out that she will gain weight after she has kids anyway.
If anything, that is a reason to only want a very thin girl, who will still be normal after having kids.
In any event, humans, like animals, are attracted to health. Being thin is healthy, and we are attracted to it. (That is my pshat.)
charlie:
I did not know which day the Orthodox Christmas was, but my analysis is correct. The reason some celebrate nittel on Jan 6 or whenever is to accord with the Orthodox Christmas.
You are correct that since 1900 that has been Jan 7, and in 2100 it will be Jan 8. (At which time we will begin saying tal umatar on Dec 5/6 since we also use the equivalent of the Julian calendar for tal umatar, birchas hachama, and maybe some other stuff.)
I feel like we can have a better relationship on this forum. I’ll try to be nicer in the future.
In case anyone is wondering, the issue with Dec 25 v. Jan 6, is this.
In the 1500s, the Church realized that Julius’s calendar which assumed a solar year to be 365 1/4 days, was off by a bit, and that Easter was no longer falling out right. In 1582, Gregory adopted the current calendar, which has a leap year slightly less often, skipping 3 Julian leap years every 400 years. This made the calendar work, but they still needed to do something about the 10 days that their calendar was now off.
So they skipped 10 days. Different counties skipped the days at different times in history, with the Russians only doing it in 1917 after the revolution.
Now, the real issue is that while Pope Gregory did legislate is new calendar into the Roman Catholic Church and its holidays followed his new calendar, he had no authority over the Orthodox churches, and they have not accepted the change.
Therefore, in Roman Catholic churches, the holiday is celebrated on Dec. 25, while in Orthodox churches, it is celebrated on Jan. 6.
Following that, chassidim from countries with an Orthodox church (Russia), observe nittel nacht on Jan 6 which is “their” xmas.
Frumlady:
Your mistake is in thinking that those facts you present result in its being assur.
You can trust that the rabbonim who mattir it have done their homework.
I cleaned my knife by shoving it into the ground. It gets off the grease very well. And the blood from my finger which I slashed open.
I cleaned myself by- I didn’t clean myself. Wouldn’t want to ruin my base of insect repellent and have to start again.
You are not shallow at all. It is assur to marry someone you are not attracted to. It is completely normal to not be attracted to heavy people.
You may be silly for thinking this is shallow, but silly is not such a fault.
For girls, it varies greatly, and often for no discernible reason.
A normal learning boy has as many dates as he wants.
Sister Bear:
I don’t agree with that either.
Often, the person is thinking about something else and does not notice that you held the door specifically for them. They see an open door and go through.
If you are only doing it for the thank you, I’d rather you not do it.
Thanks 80.
Just for that I am posting my favorite passage from Mark Twain.
- “It was a crisp and spicy morning in early October. The lilacs and laburnums, lit with the glory-fires of autumn, hung burning and flashing in the upper air, a fairy bridge provided by kind Nature for the wingless wild things that have their homes in the tree-tops and would visit together; the larch and the pomegranate flung their purple and yellow flames in brilliant broad splashes along the slanting sweep of the woodland; the sensuous fragrance of innumerable deciduous flowers rose upon the swooning atmosphere; far in the empty sky a solitary esophagus slept upon motionless wing; everywhere brooded stillness, serenity, and the peace of God.”
I was once on the phone with my credit card complaining about something or another. The guy says, “may I call you Daniel*?”
I said, “No”.
*All names blah blah blah privacy.
I would totally agree to a fourth date if the shadchan would give me a cut.
Well, you need to bring a filter. You needed to then also, they just didn’t know what Giardia is.
Our first night, after we had made camp and eaten supper, two people came by packed up and said a bear had just ruffled through their camp and they were moving on to the next permitted camping zone. We convinced them it was too late, so they set up camp with us, and we all spent the night clutching our bear spray and starting at every rustle.
It didn’t help that a man had been killed in a predatory bear attack a few days earlier, nearby.
Charlie: We’ve spoken about that before. The nations are obliged to set up laws and enforce them. Do you know where the standards for those laws are discussed?
I don’t think we should crucify this girl just yet. You don’t always realize that someone needs help. Sometimes you are just thinking about someone else.
I don’t think I am a bad person because I don’t walk around all day focusing on other peoples needs. I try to help people and I try to anticipate their needs, but things do slip by. It would have been mean if you had asked her for help and she refused.
I think you should find that girl and apologize.