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Yes, but not if the garbage bag has a red draw-string. Then it is assur also.

I once got a look from someone, and I was very ?????.

Just post your login info, and we’ll take care of it.

Oh. That is good then. I am happy this person passed. May this person drive accident free for 103 years.

Tips for passing a Road Test in NYC other than Davening and knowing how to drive

Without having read the thread- My opinion is that if this person does not know how to drive, I hope they fail.

Yes, I was adding the two points.

A. You only find 15% attractive.

B. You agreed it is ok to insist on someone you are attracted two, although you personally don’t.

I therefore concluded that it would be ok for me to insist only on the top 15%. I have not taken math since 11th grade, but this seems pretty simple.

Well, 15% is what remains when you skim off 85%.

Great, well then now that we have agreed on our definitions;

Maybe guys find 85% of jewish women unattractive, and we agree it is proper for a guy to want a wife he finds attractive.

It is a good thing guys actually find most jewish girls attractive. But I am happy we now have your haskama to look only for the top 15%.

Agree with pumper

Clearly you did not understand my point. I have NO PROBLEM w someone wanting to be attracted to their spouse. I have a problem with you constantly saying (not verbatim): this is our nature, its how men are created, we cant help it, woman cant understand…. That is where the cheeseburger comparison came in to play.

I do not say that about guys who want a 10. (I don’t mean size 10). I say that in response to women who think it is somehow illegitimate and improper for a guy to insist on “pretty” (according to his tastes).

Perhaps we do not disagree.

But, I still think we do.

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I am not dancing around the issue. You will find I said the precise same thing at the beginning of this thread.

You will also notice, that we do still disagree. Within the normal realm, you think that it is like cheeseburgers, an inappropriate desire which can and should be controlled. I think the desire for an attractive (to you) spouse is normal, and proper.

I don’t think this goes against Judaism. I don’t think it is something that a guy should be working against.

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The poritz was the nobleman. They were the feudal landowners, the russian aristocracy. They often lived in France, since that was fashionable. They needed someone to run their estate and collect the rents, and would often hire a Jew.

This caused grief from both ends, as the landowners would be upset if the profits were not coming in, and the ???? hated them for collecting the money.

The Cossack rebellion of 1648 of was rebellion against these landowners, and was joined by the peasants. Naturally, the Jews were targeted, the landowners were largely not even there.

Joseph was playing these games even back then?

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Tell them you are not there to perform.

Is there anything wrong for a yeshiva bochur to be makpid on dating girls who are very pretty?

To insist on someone you are attracted to is very different than insisting on someone who is “very pretty”.

If you say you need to marry someone who is a supermodel, that is a bit extreme.

Otherwise, you should not let anyone convince you that looks are not important. If it is important to you, then it is important.

You obviously didn’t read my first post. Here it is: “When the single person is in their twenties, they shouldn’t settle for anything they don’t want; after that they should.”

You could have figured I got married in my twenties; but why let an opportunity to put someone else down pass?!?

I’m not sure why you took my comment as putting you down.

In any event, would you have been happy with your marriage if you got married in your 30s? 40s? 80s?

I would expect the moral of your story to be that bad marriage is always worse than no marriage.

Health: That is what I mean. That is why I don’t understand why you would be counseling people to settle.

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Anytime i tell someone they never believe me! how bout you?

You’re asking if we believe you?

I don’t.

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