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Well, since we aren’t going to quote any real statistics here…this thread is pretty pointless.
Agreed. I might add that it would be pointless even if we had real statistics.
Re: Posters who are pointing out that many women put on weight after kids anyway.
Most guys I know think that is a reason to insist on an even lighter girl than they imagine they can be attracted to. They think that if attraction is borderline now, then after kids they will not be able to handle it.
So this argument usually backfires. Don’t tell it to a guy who is concerned about a girl he is dating.
That does not sound too good. I think she better speak with someone (a therapist) fast. Especially if her wedding is scheduled for the week after pesach.
Ooof.
This wasn’t an insult though, he was posting private information about me on a public forum. It wasn’t secret or negative stuff, it was just where I live, what I do, my family, all kinds of stuff that you don’t necessarily want to be public on a forum you chat on.
there are some normal people out there (few and far between
Hee Hee. That sounds funny.
popa with 3 wives only 7 kids?
most could do that with half a wife
I married the last 6 only this year.
My friend’s sister was on a date, and the guy parked in an illegal spot.
The guy was being a real jerk, so she went to the “bathroom”, and flagged down a cop, showed him the car, and said it was her boyfriend’s who had just dumped her.
The cop had it towed to Islip.
The dictionary provides 7 definitions of romance, all of which I quoted above (i.e. medieval tale, imaginary characters, something that lacks basis in fact, heroic era, adventure, etc.) Which definition of the term that the dictionary defines it are you referring to?
I was referring to definition 5, the Romance languages.
I think it is very important for a husband and wife to be able to communicate in Italian, since that is the language of food.
How about this?
In every society, there have always been traits which were considered attractive.
In China, women were supposed to have small feet, so they used to bind their feet so they wouldn’t grow.
In the Kayan culture, women are supposed to put coils on their neck so it stretches.
In the scheme of things, an infatuation with being a normal weight, is a lot better than those alternatives.
(Popa: you don’t know what normal is. Women are being coerced into being waaaaaaay below normal weight. Normal weight is 180 lbs.)
Now you don’t even need to respond.
No, David99, that is not what I think.
Go back and re-read all your posts. You do not argue nicely.
Look at the contrast between your language, (ex. “you are simply incorrect”, “you have no idea what you’re talking about”, etc.), and other posters on this forum.
It doesn’t even serve your purpose, because it makes people defensive, and then they will never agree.
Well, thank you Avram in MD for agreeing with me at least in part.
Different communities have different notions of dating, and certainly communities where dating is 2 nights, do not have a concept of developing a romantic relationship before engagement.
But, communities where dating is over a month, are certainly attempting to establish romance during the dating process.
knish? Are you human or a computer?
adorable:
I think I would actually say the opposite.
The purpose of marriage is for the romance, and the hashkafos and personality must also match, or it will not work out.
romance seems like such a goyish concept.
That is very unfortunate.
It is not a goyish concept. It is a human concept.
Romance is the most important part of the spousal relationship. Dating is not an interview for a job.
I think you should ask someone you respect about this.
One thing is for sure you have no idea what you are talking about.
Your fixation is disturbing.
You are rude.
if a guy spends only $10.00 on every date
That is not really realistic. The guy has to drive from somewhere, and even if it is only queens to brooklyn to manhattan to brooklyn to queens, he is using a few gallons.
If he is coming from Lakewood, then figure half a tank of gas, 15-20 in tolls, and probably a rental car.
There aren’t a million frum jews in America.
A girl at 5’8” 180, although that may sound a little overweight if in shape and toned, thats what a woman is supposed to look like!
Sac: Are you sure about that?
According to some online weight calculator I found, her ideal weight would be 140.
I am 5’7″, and I weigh less than 140, and I do not look “skinny”, and I have a broader build than most women.
I think it is wrong to marry any child.
It is also illegal in most states.
when my parents to shidduch info they dafka don’t want a girl that looks like she will fly away with the wind
It doesn’t matter what your parents want. It matters what the person who is dating wants.
Spirits up?
By me, it is more of an issue to keep my spirits down. After 10-15 spirits, it can get hard.
Guys in yeshiva watch the all the time.
that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
Then they wonder why girls are becoming anorexic. (Which BTW, does not help you in shidduchim either.)
WADR, I’m in a better position to judge whether or not someone would recognize me.
I’ll never forget the fangs and yellow eyes.
old lady 40+
If 40+ is “old” now, I’m starting to get nervous.
I once went on a date. About an hour and a half in, we realized we had dated before- for a month.
Weird huh?
(I can’t find my lying thread. Can anyone link to it please?)
Boy. 20-40.
7 kids.
3 Grandkids.
1 Great-grandkid.
1 Great-great-grandkids.
3 wives.
Kits, cats, sacks, wives
How many were going to St Ives?
I vote for chayav.
dunno: The only place cheaper than a lounge date is a starbucks date.
How many starbucks you wanna go to?
A. You people have no idea what drinks cost. If you go to a random hotel lobby in Manhattan, and order a diet sprite and a seltzer, your bill is about $10-15.
B. There is absolutely no reason to spend $10 going back and forth in the Battery tunnel, when there are 2 free bridges 5 minutes away.
C. Parking costs $30. Cut the guy some slack if he looks for parking for 5 minutes. (I once spent 5 minutes trying to fit into a spot, and then gave up. I was pushing both cars at the same time. I bet a few more minutes and I could have gotten it.)
D. If a guy takes you for dinner, it is a mighty expensive date. The costs and dates add up fast. I once spent approximately $1500 dating one person, and that did not include any flights, but did include a bit of driving. (19 dates- average $78).
There is an “I” in pizza.
Life is like a mango. There is a pit inside, but it’s too big to swallow by accident.
-Popa
Smoking is terrible for your health.
It is almost as bad as being overweight.
(Sac, this one’s for you. You know you were waiting for it)
Just step on his shoes as you go in for the kiss.
“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.”
– Learned Hand (google him, he’s a really famous judge)
Vacation time is part of the bargaining process.
If teachers are able to bargain for this time, it means the market has given it to them.
Yes, you should.
Getting engaged is so wonderful that it is worth it even if you will just break off the engagement after the vort.
It puts the post number in the web address.
This way you can give someone a link to the particular post.
In spite of ice,
in spite of snow
in spite of all, the winds that blow.
In spite of hail,
and biting frost,
Take thyself, and get thee lost!
-Popa’s friend’s adaptation of Phillip Freneau
I like pizza
You wouldn’t want to have to pay what that cost, in terms of money and justice delayed.
“No justice would be better than this injustice.”
Ted Kennedy, about Robert Bork.
(In a great example of the non-inflammatory discussions that used to happen in the senate before the Republicans came along.)
It tells me that tumill is trying to keep the discourse civilized.
Juries are necessary. Even if you just sit around, the fact that the court can assemble a jury on short notice helps move the justice system along. Many defendants (or their lawyers) will seek to plea bargain rather than face a trial by jury.
But I am opposed to the plea bargain system, and I don’t want to contribute to the process which facilitates it.
Prosecutors use the plea bargain system to force defendants to forgo trial by threatening to ask for maximum punishments, which are far out of proportion to the crime.
Lawmakers make sentencing guidelines with built in allowance for prosecutors to make leniency for plea bargains, which means that the ones who go to trial are being punished excessively.
We are basically punishing them for insisting on their right to trial.
I want no part in that.