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popa_bar_abbaParticipant
You are telling us that the music that you listened to in a Starbucks for a year was all Kosher or even mostly Kosher and the music is not about lust?
That is what I am telling you.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantwrong website.
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popa_bar_abbaParticipantEven songs that don’t use vulgar terms which are quite rare
They are not rare at all. That simply is not so.
are referring to a lustful romance, and as far as I know romance is not a kosher concept. Its a concept made up by non Jews as a euphemism in mamah lushin its a way to fool a girl into thinking you care about her so she lets her guard down and you can go take advantage of her.
That is also not so. That is not what they are saying.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantwhether you like it or not, you have just espoused an MO hashkafa.
My rebbeim were not MO, and I think they would agree.
(And notice I stayed way out of the MO discussion.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMy skin crawls when I hear the songs today in a supermarket
Really? I rarely hear something in the supermarket which I find offensive. I wonder where you shop. (hee hee)
Too bad we can’t discuss specific songs. It would make this a whole lot easier.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant“I dont listen to non jewish music”
“I used to think that also, until I hears some of them.”
Huh?!
I spent a year in starbucks. And sometimes I’m in the car with people.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe non Jewish concept of love and the Jewish one are polar opposites. Non Jewish love is about trying out the model first and if you like it you keep. Its based on selfish lusting for the opposite gender. Jewish marriage and relationships are about selflessness and giving.
That is not what these songs are about. I used to think that also, until I hears some of them.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantmindover:
1. I don’t think listening will increase your love for your spouse. I just don’t think they are treif. I don’t think they are the same as vulgar songs or lyrics.
2. I don’t know which halachos you are referring to.
3. I don’t listen to non-jewish music. In fact, I barely listen to any music. If I do, I like carlebach, MBD, and lipa. Nice mix, huh? The tzad hashaveh is they sound like they mean what they are saying. In general, my biggest criticism of jewish music is that so much of it is mindless and meaningless. I don’t know why they bother putting words to them.
A couple of times, I have heard non-jewish romantic songs, and yes, I did think about Hashem.
4. Respect is not love.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’m not saying that couples should display affection in public- that would not be tznius.
I’m saying two things:
1. Romance is not treif.
2. Your kids should know you love your wife. If you do. And you should.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantHey!
I need more recipes.
Don’t be so snobby, I know you eat off the foreman at least 8 times a week.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMy impression was (Don’t ask me how.) that you are marrying off children.
I may have invented some stories about marrying off children. I generally don’t write personal details on this site, although I may one day.
As far as cut off ages, I’m not aware of any yeshiva or program with a cut off age.
If a drop of milk falls into a cholent, that is the case of tipas cholov.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNegligence, in some courts, may be determined on a percentage basis. Both parties may be somewhat at fault, and the judge or jury will decide what percentage of fault each party is responsible for. So although the accident happened on a neighbor’s property, the neighbor may not be 100% at fault.
Courts are pretty unlikely to ascribe negligence to a 5 year old. Hiding in cabinets is a pretty normal 5 year old activity.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthappiest: I’m very sorry to hear that. I think the saddest part is that you are uncomfortable sharing it with your family, who are the people we are supposed to be comfortable relying on, no matter what.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhen Hello is davening Kabolas Shabbos and Maariv in Yerushlayim
How strange. Posts on shabbos and still davens. In Yerushalayim no less.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI think (hope?) that is what hello99 read also. Hello usually knows his stuff right good, even if he posts on shabbos.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIt was used within 24 hours for pareve soup. That does not make it ben yomo, even if the milchig pot the soup was in was ben yomo.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthello:
What do you think the shaila is?
We have an eino ben yomo pot, pareve food, an eino ben yomo spoon.
The rema there is talking where one of them was ben yomo, is he not?
August 5, 2011 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034707popa_bar_abbaParticipantI couldn’t keep quiet either when I read that the poster had to take a xanax and didn’t offer it around.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou have nothing to apologize for. I was simply commenting that if you were attempting to look less troll, I think you had the opposite effect.
As far as the substantive issue: Many things are “only” tradition, and yet have the force of halacha. I have no idea what the halacha and minhag is in this area, but I do know it is not what we do and not what we should be doing, and that anyone who wants to follow the people we should be following, doesn’t do it.
If you are looking for a halachic discussion of the issue, I have nothing to add.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWell, I think you came across as more of a troll this way.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYour question assumes something to be true and then asks for the basis.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBoth are fine. The food is still pareve; the pot is still fleishig; the spoon is still milchig.
(Yoreh Yadin smicha a year ago)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWe were planning to applaud loudly when the guy said you can’t handle the truth, but it really wasn’t that dramatic that it would have made sense.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPlease Goq.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant9 days…?
Question noted. It was fine and justified.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBlock up your ears until you don’t want to anymore.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis reminds me of a funny story.
I was on a date, and we stopped at a outdoors store to browse. My date remembered she wanted to buy snow pants, so we shopped for snow pants. Then, she went to try them on. By me by, she wanted an opinion, so I went and found some other lady to give an opinion.
Now, why in blazes did I not just give my own opinion?
They were snow pants, big and poofy- no tznius problem I assume.
As far as beged ish, what’s the difference if I see it or not?
(Aside: this was a great date. There had been a blizzard the day before, so I went to an REI, rented cross country skis, and took them to a forest preserve.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYes, it means fat. That was the molecular compound for fat, as cited in Wikipedia
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI am very disappointed in the CR that nobody got my funny story.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe mainstream litvish yeshivos in America mostly consist of:
1. Lakewood and its feeders.
2. Ner Israel
3. Chofetz Chaim and its feeders.
4. Chaim Berlin
There are probably a couple more distint ones I am missing, but that makes up at least 90% of litvish yeshiva students.
1. The purpose of Lakewood is to sit and learn for as long as you are able to with absolutely no other purpose. That was the opinion of Rav Aharon Kotler, and that is what they do.
2. The purpose of Chofetz Chaim is to learn and become a talmid chochom so that you can go be a rebbi somewhere. (like you said, high school rebbi; or elementary school, or kiruv or whatever)
3. I don’t know enough about Ner Israel and Chaim berlin to speak about them.
So, I think it is pretty clear that the roshei yeshiva believe that learning in their yeshivas is appropriate even if one will never be a gadol.
We can discuss whether we agree with that idea (I do agree, you don’t), but it is not really relevant to this discussion- which is a discussion of whether they are doing a good job of what they are trying to do.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI guess it wasn’t because I myself attended the speech and lo and behold it was that woman and she really was AMAZING!
I can’t explain that. I don’t have an answer for everything.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBecause they have better response time, provide better service, and are more attuned to our community’s specific needs.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantcookie:
That was my sister and niece. They told me this story also.
My niece was making it up to be funny, my sister really wasn’t the speaker.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantGAW: Sure, if these yeshivos were billed as only being for future gedolim. However, they are not. They are billed as being for everyone.
If you can’t become a Gadol, you have no right to sit and become a nothing.
I’m not sure what you mean by this. I think you mean that you have no right to sit in a yeshiva which is not for you instead of going to one which is for you. I agree. I just think that if that is the case, the roshei yeshiva should advise them that.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantnewhere: My experience and my friends experience has been as I said. I cannot speak for every yeshiva and kollel.
Generally, I think we are confusing the lack of regulation with the lack of pressure. Sure, you can go to coffee room and nobody will say boo, but you think that people will look down on you- which is the worst kind of pressure.
Everybody in yeshiva knows who the slackers are. We might not tell you when you call about your daughter, but oh we know.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI bet I could make duck a la orange in a foreman.
I would just defrost a duck, shove a peeled orange inside, and squeeze it until it locked shut.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI once told the shadchan the problem was chemistry.
He said, “I’m guessing too many hydrogen and carbon chains with a carbolic acid group at one end”.
(use google)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantdunno:
Not being on last night is a ????? ????? ???? ?????
The original post which sparked it is not up.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanti clicked on chophetzchaims name and i somehow ended up on yeshivaworld google
Yes, chofetzchaim did that as a service so that it would be easy to link to the search function.
August 3, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034653popa_bar_abbaParticipant80: Thank you.
August 3, 2011 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034645popa_bar_abbaParticipantOh. I wasn’t around in his infancy. He must have been some baby!
August 3, 2011 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034643popa_bar_abbaParticipantknowing for a long time hasn’t stopped joe
Yes, we have known Joe for a long time to be a lunatic. I meant you have known me for a long time to be a normal poster. (Ok, maybe not normal, but that what 80 is making me out to be is not me.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMight I recommend My Father’s Paradise: A Son’s Search for His Jewish Past in Kurdish Iraq by Ariel Sabar. I found it a very interesting read.
That was a fascinating book.
Nevertheless, I found myself snorting when he was comparing hebrew words to aramaic words for his professor.
For blazes sake, any yeshiva guy could tell you far more words, and could even tell you rules for the sorts of sounds that get switched. (like the hebrew ? turning into the aramaic ?, for example- ???- ???, and all the rest.)
August 3, 2011 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034641popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis is ridiculous.
You people have known me for a long time. If I don’t have a little bit of credibility by now, I really don’t know what to say.
80: I am would like to come meet you, and I will bring Bar Shattya and my father along.
(I should add, I used to think I was mod 80, but after this, I’m thinking I might have to cut that alter-identity loose. It is too unpredictable.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI thought it is usually girls who break it off for “don’t feel it”.
However, if I was the shadchan and a guy said that, I would know he meant “looks”.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat do you listen to when you’re down?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantblabla:
I am almost certain you would be allowed to listen to music now to cheer you up. I would do it, go for it.
August 3, 2011 3:59 am at 3:59 am in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034628popa_bar_abbaParticipant80: You are slandering me based on deleted posts which you claim.
People: What can I say. He is not me. I don’t do alternate names.
I have confirmed this. See my edit in the post above – YW Mod
the above is pba impersonating a mod, a federal offense
No it is not, it is Mod-42 impersonating himself
August 3, 2011 3:30 am at 3:30 am in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034614popa_bar_abbaParticipantAnd abba bar Aristotle is staying at you house also
That is my father. We have been through that also, last time when you deleted his account (abba bar dad) and all his posts.
We are staying in the same place this week also.
August 3, 2011 3:23 am at 3:23 am in reply to: mods! when someone calls you a 'dolt' they're calling you an idiot!! #1034605popa_bar_abbaParticipantICOT:
It isn’t me.
I’m not lying to you. We’ve been talking to each other here for a long time. You can believe me.
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