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sorry, ronrsr, to call this a coincidence is pure apikorsus
Indeed to call anything coincidence is apikorsus.
First time I’ve been called an apikorus here.
Hmmmmm.
I’d buy life insurance quick.
We all want to know:
So what is this outstanding name you have anyway? I’ve heard of loads of girls names and have never been tempted to tell someone it was a pretty name.
Well I would trust my rov to find out the answer for me.
I don’t know all sunglasses. I was merely responding to the notion that it depended on whether they were fashionable.
(But, I have never seen sunglasses which I would find objectionable. Perhaps I should get out more.)
I would NOT advise giving him the cold shoulder. I think that is rude. You can politely tell him you want to keep your relationship with him strictly in school and only to school-related things, and that you would not want to go further than that. If he is a normal, nice guy, he will respect your choice.
You are right. I take it back.
Parents have a chiyyuv to be mechaneich their children.
A. We might disagree on the definition of chinuch. I think it means to influence your kids to have a better relationship with Hashem and try harder to keep the torah. I think the most effective way of doing that is by example, and that telling kids, especially college age, is counter-productive.
B. When I say “Judaism is a one man religion”– which I did not coin- I mean that each of us only answers to G-d, and nobody can pater anyone else. Thus, it truly is an individual’s religion.
I do not mean to tread on the concept of arvus which adds obligation to each of us for the others. Regarding that though, the same is true as above that it should be driven by what works, and forcing doesn’t.
Ok, so it is unwanted.
I suppose at the time I would have told him it was inappropriate for a business relationship. Very snootily.
Now, I guess you just need to really give him the cold shoulder. I imagine your official duties are done, so you don’t owe the school anything. Just “miss” his calls, and respond to emails about a day late.
It would be just as inappropriate in a non-professional relationship. It is inappropriate for Jews.
Men and women should not have a non-professional relationship. I assume this is what you mean.
My suggestion was a good way to politely slam the guy with the fact that she considers him merely a colleague and not a friend. If that is indeed the case.
popa_bar_abba
“I would tell my daughter to do whatever she wanted”
I do not believe you mean that sincerely.
Well, if she asked my advice, I would discuss with her whether she was interested in dating that guy, or such a guy who does that. It would likely depend on the ages involved. So if she is 19 and he is 22- probably not. She is 29 and he is 32- probably yes.
But if she wasn’t looking for my advice, I would want her to do whatever she wanted. My daughter does not live to please me. Does not answer to me. Judaism is a one man religion.
Some people substitute Haggis for cholent.
Recipe:
Ingredients
1 sheep stomach
1 sheep liver
1 sheep heart
1 sheep tongue
1/2 pound suet, minced
3 medium onions, minced
1/2 pound dry oats, toasted
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 teaspoon dried ground herbs
Directions
Rinse the stomach thoroughly and soak overnight in cold salted water.
Rinse the liver, heart, and tongue. In a large pot of boiling, salted water, cook these parts over medium heat for 2 hours. Remove and mince. Remove any gristle or skin and discard.
In a large bowl, combine the minced liver, heart, tongue, suet, onions, and toasted oats. Season with salt, pepper, and dried herbs. Moisten with some of the cooking water so the mixture binds. Remove the stomach from the cold salted water and fill 2/3 with the mixture. Sew or tie the stomach closed. Use a turning fork to pierce the stomach several times. This will prevent the haggis from bursting.
In a large pot of boiling water, gently place the filled stomach, being careful not to splash. Cook over high heat for 3 hours.
Serve with mashed potatoes, if you serve it at all.
popa_bar_abba
Would you tell your daughter to give her phone #?!
I would tell my daughter to do whatever she wanted.
I was responding to the OP who asked what she should do, not what is appropriate.
So, if she was interested, then there is no reason not to give her phone number. Of course, some girls will be turned off by a guy who hits on girls in school.
If she was offended, by which I mean like all the posters here, then she should tell him his comment is inappropriate for a professional relationship. Which it is.
If you are interested, give him your number.
If you are not interested, give him a cold shoulder.
If you are offended, tell him that is not appropriate in a professional relationship.
There’s fashion and there’s fashion. Red nail polish and lipstick is also fashionable.
I don’t think I suggested being fashionable automatically makes something ok.
@Health. Sure, there may be some which are not tznius. But it won’t be because they are fashionable.
“Boys dress like they would to go to a wedding for a first date, and girls should also.”
DREAM ON
Boys do, and girls should. There is no reason girls should dress nicer to attract attention from random married men at weddings than they do for someone they are considering marrying.
Maybe she is from a different country and they dress differently there.
What do you do if a colleague especially bought you a cheeseburger and gives it to you and says “try it, its delicious, I went out and bought it for you”. Do you eat it?
I actually had a non-frum colleague trying really hard to convince me to eat the fried squid. I was really happy they weren’t kosher. I don’t think I would want to eat anything that doesn’t have bones.
(Also, someone is going to say we are not supposed to be disgusted by treif. They should go desire to eat cockroaches and centipedes and report back.)
I like this thread.
Then someone noted that sunglasses are made for fashion.
Then everyone made the “leap of faith” that anything which is made for fashion is not tznius.
So now the debate is framed as whether sunglasses are made for fashion.
This is retarded. Women are allowed and encouraged to wear things which are only made for fashion. For example, jewelery.
This is almost as bad as the “should I marry a canadian” troll thread.
Here is what I think about hats:
I used to think it was silly, and that I just wore it because that was the convention of how “we” dress, and I wanted to associate myself with the people who dress that way.
But, I think it really does make sense now.
Ask yourself: In almost every society until recently, some type of hat has been accepted as a part of normal dress. Mexicans wore big straw ones, polish wore fur ones, arabs wore keffiahs, chinese wore chinese ones, etc.
Hats have always been part of the way one dresses, part of being dressed.
Why? I don’t know. But there is clearly some reason that a mensch covers his head.
So, I don’t understand it, but I’m ready to accept that a reason exists.
So have I
I laugh in the face of Bar Shattya. HA HA HA
If this is a doctor you are dealing with, isn’t s/he going to be touching you anyway?
I have had that experience. I used a female hand surgeon, and you think she’d say “Gee, I can’t touch your hand? How am I supposed to examine it?”
Sorry, I needed to do that.
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I don’t understand why you think it’s made up. Look around. The “fashion” of sunglasses did not start in the Jewish community.
I asked if you made it up. Meaning, did you make that observation, and then further decide yourself that it makes it bad?
Sunglasses are like l’vush hagoyim. It’s not something that has typically been worn by Jews.
Did you make that up?
Women are allowed to wear things for fashion.
This is retarded.
Also, ice cream trucks don’t have a bathroom. Makes me think.
Much ado about nothing.
pizza
twisted:
I don’t know the answers. However, that is why I guess we should just trust our rebbeim.
The issue is keeping a ton of people in Kollel forever on the government money in the face of the open and bitter opposition of the taxpayers.
There is no opposition from the taxpayers. The taxpayers are represented by the legislature. The legislature wants to provide it.
Welcome to the democratic process.
Twisted:
Yes, people often quote that rambam while forgetting to quote this one. More likely are just ignorant.
Rambam writes:
???? ?? ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?’ ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ????? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????, ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ????? ??? ????, ??? ?? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?”? ????, ???? ???? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ??????
??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ?’ ????? ??????? ???? ?? ?’ ???? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ????? ????? ?’ ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?? ???”? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ?????, ??? ??? ?”? ???? ?’ ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?????
????-????, ????? ????? ????? ?? ??.
Food stamps are for people who qualify. The state makes the rules and makes the qualifications so that people who they want to qualify will qualify.
Therefore, if kollel people qualify, they are the ones the state intends the program for.
I am kind of bothered by your assumptions.
You are not a chicken. Nobody wastes money MRI-ing a chicken.
Why is bar shattya posting serious posts?
(But, I totally agree with him. After all, he is not a stupid girl who kills herself in high school for no reason.)
I’d vote for Rick Perry any day of the week. Except shabbos.
Welcome back charlie. Methinks you missed this
And skipping Tachnun should most definitely not be a cause for a “party”.
I don’t know. The gemara does say ?? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??”? ???
Oops. I davened without a minyan today, and I said tachanun.
And it is even Monday!
Blazes durn it!!
Popa was alerted to this a few months ago. Popa thought the court would refuse to take the case, or rule against them, saying it was political question. Popa still thinks that is what they are going to say.