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watch the video “yankel am ha’aretz”.
I’m actually a bit annoyed by that video. It portrays him as a retard.
An am haaretz is not a retard, it is an ignoramus.
i am shocked that popa didnt comment lol 🙂
Sorry C, I wasn’t reading this thread. But I was alerted to my media mention.
I have no opinion.
They should focus on trying to make the current students want to maintain the kesher when they leave. Then, since they want to, they will.
Many yeshivos fail to realize that today’s students are tomorrow’s alumni.
There’s an old saying:
“You can change your habits, and you can change your wife. But you can’t change your wife’s habits.”
He Must Go, By Popa_Bar_Kahana
Can bad habits be changed after one is married?
I think once nuns are married, they aren’t nuns anymore, and are allowed to totally dump their bad or good habits.
Men are so much smarter than women. A girl could never pull that sort of garbage on us!
Another thing people are forgetting you only pay if you get married!!
Yes, but you need to lay it out in advance, just to get the dates. 13k is quite a boatload of money- a lot more than I have in my checking account.
You should not smoke. You should not even joke about smoking.
Smoking is very disgusting, and is known to be almost as unhealthy as being fat, or being hit by your parents.
popa_bar_abba-
For the record- I never did anything on a date for the sole purpose of repeating it afterwards.
That is what I was saying. That your stories needed to happen naturally.
So, returning to the OP’s question: It appears the CR consensus is that this was a nasty rumor.
mdd: I’m not really sure what we are arguing about.
Presumably, I agree that one is required to fulfill all chiyuvim in the torah, and that there is never a situation (except for those mentioned in halacha) when one is pattur from fulfilling a chiyuv.
But, I would have expected you to also agree, that from Hashem’s point of view, there are many times when one appears to be breaking the torah, yet Hashem knows it was too hard for this person, and judges them accordingly.
That is why we have such ideas as the navi saying that in the time of mashiach ??????????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ????????, ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ??? ??????? (malachi 3:18), because now, we cannot tell.
Why don’t you give me an example of a case where we would be arguing?
Yes. The do it because they want to have good stories like Dr. Pepper.
The are retarded, because Dr. Pepper’s stories need to happen for funny reasons, not for retarded reasons- you can’t manufacture them.
Ok. Sorry for biting your head off.
Our hashkafa is that all we are expected of is to do our best. Chazal is full of this idea; ?? ???? ???? ?????? ????, ?? ?? ?
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It also just makes sense. And I don’t see how you think that is letting people “off easy.” Doing your best is hard.
Yitay, you are wrong. We are expected to keep all Mitsvos according to Halocha. Not just try our best.
That is not even almost correct. Mdd: just where did you pick up that fine nugget of avoda zara?
btw – i’ve never been inside a starbucks.
Why do you think I go there? hee hee.
Now we got gefen going. (cowers under table in starbucks, emerging only to grab cup and get free refill)
I am now officially declaring, that in Popa’s view:
………….. “This Idea Is Retarded*”……………..
For two reasons:
Firstly, it is crazy for these couple of nuts from queens to set the baseline by which all shadchanim will now expect to get paid. (As one of my friends told me- “I have a 30 year old sister; does this mean every shadchan will now ask her if she is signed up with this for 13k?”)
I want to know: Just who gave you permission to do this? Just who allowed you to change the way shadchanim will expect to be compensated?
Secondly, while you rightly point out that 13k is not a lot to pay to get married, and people do spend more than that on a wedding, you are asking people to put up the money without knowing whether it will be years before they get married. These are large sums of money, most of us don’t have it lying around. I can’t imagine very many people will join this.
*I use the term retarded, because I am personally acquainted with some fools, idiots, dolts, stupidheads, morons, knuckleheads, shnooks, and fat people, and I would not want to use their condition as a pejorative.
One could argue that my closed tallis bag is a “package,” in which case, you’ve just condemned me to death for taking my tallis out of my bag this morning.
Why do I think that would make you proud?
How come the boys don’t have to pay?? Very one sided.
They do have to pay. They have to put up with these girls for the rest of their lives.
Yiraas shomayim is a storehouse.
I saw the ad, and was nauseated. Because it implys that girls are “worth” x ammount (when in reality, they are priceless).
I was nauseated because it implies that older girls are worth more. Why should they be worth more? I am worth more.
Ok. I’ll start.
What device did Dr. Pepper contrive to work as a MP3 player, and whose shidduch did it mess up?
no I am saying that he is one for not knowing that he’s back in yeshiva.
Some yeshivos don’t start until rosh chodesh.
No one is forcing any girl to join.
I can just see a shadchan telling a 30 year old girl they will only set them up for 13k, now that the price has been given that baseline.
I guess the question is: Is NASI now setting the benchmark for working with older girls?
Will this mean that no shadchan is willing to make a shidduch for a 24 year old without being guaranteed a $7000 commission?
Ok. You are all correct. I was misreading it. The money comes from the parents.
Mods: Please remove my accusations.
Because zeeskite is joseph
ZeesKite
Because Mommy Said So
I really don’t know what this hype is all about. Iv’e not really followed the other threads where I saw you’ve voiced (stated) your concerns entirely, but I couldn’t see anything amiss. I did not note one instance of one asking private info of another. Maybe you could point it out.
Zeeskite: We have already wondered whether you were a Joseph manifestation yourself. The mods didn’t thinks so, and I apologize if you aren’t.
But why do you insist on making us think so?
rikki: The reward money is paid by the parents as well?
This is the type of thread Jothar was referring to. Please people. Don’t share so much personal information.
The fact is that women are protected as a “minority” under the law and segregating or discriminating against them is illegal, regardless of whatever perfect logical reasons we can give.
The real fact is, that women are not treated the same as blacks in the law, and if you have a good reason, then you are allowed to discriminate. So, for example, it is not illegal for the military to discriminate in terms of what positions a woman can hold in the army, even though it is illegal for them to do the same with blacks even if there was a good reason.
Because Bar shattya is back in yeshiva until like chanuka out shabbos.
Contracts Examples & Explanations by Brian A. Blum is a good, readable text. Though I am not sure they have so much on out clauses, as they are a used mostly in intricate large-scale contracts, where there are very many contingencies. Ordinary contracts are in fact very difficult to terminate without breaching. I presume that is why they instituted the “efficient breach” as a sort of legal shortcut, with a minimum of messiness.
I believe Restatement (Second) of Contracts is the preeminent directory, but I have never waded through it. Thank God I’m not in law school. 🙂
I see. Can you be a bit more specific? The E & E is kind of long. Can you tell me at least which chapter? (And your post implies you have read it- is that so?)
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I think it is a book about old age homes in Jerusalem.
Well, I’m going to take a chance to disagree with PBA (please don’t take my head off) and say that I think you just taught that it’s OK to quit. Sometimes Hashem puts us in situations that we cannot change and we have to learn to deal with them, even if we’re unhappy about it.
I’m going to bite your head off.
Firstly, I don’t know the first or last thing about this particular circumstance. So I can’t possibly know if it was really the best thing for the daughter. I was glad that the mother made a decision that was hard, with her daughters best interest in mind.
Secondly, (here comes head biting), sometimes Hashem puts us in hard circumstances which we can change. Like this one. I don’t see why you need to do hard things which you can change just to prepare for the ones you can’t. There are enough hard things which we actually cannot change, to provide all the training required.
I’m glad you had the courage to do what was good for your daughter.
Interesting. Can you show me where you got this idea for the difference between “breaking” and “breaching” a contract? Maybe you know of some literature that discusses it?
Yes, I am also referring to a breach of contract.
If you contract me to paint your house and say you will pay me for it, and we make a contract that I must paint your house and you must pay you 1000 dollars. Then I change my mind.
I call up the attorney general and my lawyer and the local judge. I say, “Can I just call the guy up and tell him I don’t care what I agreed, I don’t want to paint the house and I won’t do it.” They will tell me I can.
In fact, if I call my local law professor, most of them will tell me I should back out, and I am not even being immoral. Google it: It is the theory of efficient breach.
Well, the difference is that if you call up the Attorney General and tell him you want to break a contract- is that ok; he will tell you to go ahead and do whatever you want.
If you ask your lawyer- same thing.
If you ask the court- same thing.
So I’m not sure what difference it makes to you that something is illegal, but there is no stigma or criminality or anything, that attaches to breaking contracts. It is just part of business. The fact that you pay is not a punishment- it is just business.
Brown vs BOE has been applied to much more than just schooling. And gender segregation is generally treated very similarly to racial segregation. The courts might be a little more lenient but technically they should legally be the same.
I’m guessing you don’t know very much constitutional law. This is completely incorrect.
For further reading, I suggest you read Brown v. Board of Ed. and Craig v. Boren.
I cannot tell you why the Monsey bus is legal. I can tell you that one of the most famous supreme court cases ever says that segregation is illegal.
You are probably referring to Brown v. Board of Ed.
That case was talking about racial segregation, and it specifically limited its discussion to racial segregation in schooling. When that case was handed down, it was not considered to mean that all racial segregation was unconstitutional.
Also, note the difference between “unconstitutional” and illegal. Unconstitutional things are only prohibited for entities which are regulated by the constitution. (So for example, I am allowed to establish religion, and it does not violate the first amendment.)
The federal courts treat gender discrimination differently than racial discrimination.
But, besides for the US constitution, there are federal and state laws which also prohibit things.
I have no idea if this was illegal or not.