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fine n dandy.so then why do you claim to be Joseph?
Hi Joseph. Back again sub nom, I see.
(I’ll give you all a hint. When a new user shows up and knows everything about the CR within half an hour, he is not new. And is our resident stalker.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/fine-n-dandy
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mod-80-are-you-still-around#post-326681
I also hate crime.
heimishe mom: Don’t worry about that. Any guy can tell you exactly who is a tanna, or amora, or gaon, or rishon. We can even tell you who is usually cited as an amora but is allowed to argue with a tanna.
Oh yes, I got it a few minutes later, but then I wasn’t online.
hee hee. That’s true.
midwesterner: Now I’m confused. What does geirim have to do with this?
shtiky: I challenge you to open a thread called “Occupy YWN”, and make it funny.
Now think about this first. Firstly, in what manner do you intend to occupy? Also, do you have any general demands? (Occupy movements arent supposed to have specific demands)
Anyone who has a brain, and isn’t voting in self interest to take money from other people, cannot vote for him either.
mech.
1. There are even retirement communities there.
2. Chicago has plenty of young people.
3. So what. Who asked them.
4. I assume this point is as opposed to living in Flatbush. Nobody can afford to live in Flatbush.
5. And this is as opposed to which other area in the NYC area?
6. mech.
Blabla: You are correct. It is silliness. They should teach useful skills like applied mathematics or something if they want to do something intellectual.
besides, I happen to know more navi than any seminary girl I’ve ever met, mostly on account of the haftoras. And some general curiosity.
(Do you sit during leining and see if you can remember the weeks haftorah? Last week I was trying, and I came up with ????? ??? ???, but then I thought that was for vayigash, so I couldn’t think of it. But I was really correct the first time. In any event, this coming week is ??????- I think- so that means the haftorah is ??? ?? ??? ?????. And no I didn’t look it up.)
Women learn nach because a couple of women were neviim, but no women were amoraim. So it makes them feel good.
Men learn gemara because Hashem wants us to. It’s the old avodas Hashem argument.
Seminary girls learn nach because they aren’t able to understand gemara.
For example, you think that learning nach is more important than learning gemara.
But why should white shirts be the uniform for yeshiva students?
I don’t assume there is a reason for picking that uniform. There was also no reason why the union had to wear blue and the confederates gray.
I would go to vancouver in a second. They are less than a couple hours from some of the best outdoors on this continent. Plus Whistler which is the largest ski resort on the continent (but the snow is not as good as SLC).
It’s an identity thing, like everyone is saying.
Does the color of your army uniform really make a difference in who you are fighting for? No, but if you want people to know which team you’re on, you might want to wear the right color. And if you are on one team and wear the other color, you are probably retarded.
Best= Has highest Gross Product. NYC (I assume).
Rebbe Popa: So you’re saying (implying) that a bas achoso is called ??? ??? and is not permitted to marry? (Could it maybe actually be a mitzvah? ?????? ?? ?? ?????… ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??’ ???? ???? ????? ????)
Thank you zeeskite. As you point out, I was making a mistake. bas achoso is not an ervah at all. Let’s switch to a different example, say bas ishto.
oldman: Thank you. And since you did post it, I will actually go read it.
midwesterner: thanks!
zeeskite: The forbidden relationships are sometimes divided into the ones that are because of familial relationship and the ones which aren’t. That is called shear basar. ??? ???.
The only time I have seen its relevance, is in the shittah of Rabbi Akiva who held that chayvei lavin were ?? ????? ??????.
That is, that some women who are assur to you, if you do kiddushin to them, the kiddushin does not work at all, but some, the kiddushin works and you are just still assur to them. There is a machlokes which issurim this applies to. We pasken that it applies to most chayvei krisus. (so like not nidda).
But, Rabbi Akiva held it applies even to chayvei lavin. There is a machlokes in the gemara exactly what Rabbi Akiva’s opinion was, and according to one opinion, it only applied to chayvei lavin d’shear. So not almana l’kohen gadol, but yes anusas aviv, if I recall correctly.
In any event, I have no reason to think it has any application to this halacha here, and I was just negating a possible silliness.
Most of my friends had a one man band. And most of them are still happily married. Or still married anyway.
There’s a guy from Lakewood who is really good, but I can’t remember his name from a hole in a head.
You aren’t allowed more than one username. See the rules stickied at the top of the CR. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rules-of-the-ywn-coffee-room-please-read
And in response to all the Coffee Roomaratzim, the fact that she is an ervah does not allow yichud.
For example, an eishes ish is also an ervah, and there is an issur yichud. And even if you mean ervah of shear basar, bas achoso is an ervah of shear basar and there is an issur yichud.
I have no idea what the halacha here is, but neither do you.
The forums discuss fall admissions, while I’m aiming for spring
You will definitely get better advice from those forums than from a bunch of yeshiva guys who don’t know if you are trying to get into Oxford or laughter therapy school.
Health: Welcome back!
The answer is “yes, but.”
There is a concept of tznius for men also, and men should conduct their lives with a measure of tznius.
However, it is nothing like the idea for women. When G-d created woman, with each limb He said ??? ??? ?????. There is a no parallel concept by men of ?? ????? ?? ??? ?????.
Put simply, men are supposed to go out in the world, and hunt, plant, and build things. Women are supposed to take care of the house.
And women who aren’t comfortable with that should see an endocrinologist because they probably have a hormonal imbalance. (hee hee, Ok, I don’t really think that far. I certainly understand that social norms have changed and it is impossible for women not to be affected by that. But, there are a billion articles written about how women are actually not happy with the new social norms.)
I think it is because “value” is usually defined in market terms, as in how much you can sell it for. Since one cannot sell their spouse, the value is zero.
Old man: Nice one.
You make up a halacha (which I happen to agree, is probably correct), then when asked for a source, instead of providing one, you say it is obvious and that I should read two huge pieces in the tzitz eliezer (how you picked that, I have no idea). But since you seem to pretend you’ve read it, why don’t you tell us which page? (you can specify an edition if you wish)
You may act as if he is your full brother.
Source?
No, you cannot halachicly marry him. The torah says ?? ???? ?? ?? ???
Are we required to believe that Hashem created the earth (and other planets?) in six 24-hour periods, and that the universe is literally 5772 years old?
I am not aware that we are required to believe that. We are required to believe that G-d created the world ex-nihilo, but that is ok, since there is no other logical choice anyway.
Or do you believe in evolution?
I’m not sure why you picked that as the “other choice.” I could imagine 1000 other options besides those two. For example, that Hashem created the world in 6 24 hour periods and it was 5773 years ago.
oh yes. The shadchanim don’t see anything wrong with boosting shadchanus to 13k.
They should all go to azazel. ????= ??? ???? ??? ????
It depends on the type of graduate school. There are probably forums dedicated to admissions to the type of school you are talking about.
A shul or yeshiva has the right to adhere to its minhagim. However, this adherence must be limited to a shliach tzibbur and ba’al koreh.
Interesting halacha you invent. I’m curious where you got your smicha.
The all-too-common feeling that “Retzon Hashem is defined by what I do” is repugnant.
The all-too-common feeling that “retzon Hashem is defined by what will make me feel good” is just as repugnant.
Sounds like a good idea to me. A good prison sentence is sometimes what people need.
Sounds like a bad idea. I’d gander it is admissible, and I’d further advise that even if it isn’t, it lets them know that you did it, so they can go looking for other evidence.
seriously you guys have no clue what youre talking about
whoa
It is a bit easier to just describe either one, than to try to make comparisons.
What are you looking for; what do you want to know?
I usually view them as pathetic.
It is just a regular cult; people need a cause, so they make one. I visited one of them, the way they have speeches, is the speaker says a few words, and then everybody repeats it (they started this when they weren’t allowed megaphones). It is so cultish, it is scary.
What kind of things do you wanna know?
apushitayid:
Look, I won’t deny there are some guys who have a hard time getting dates with girls who are as frum as they are, but want a learning guy.
However, for your theory to be true, you would really need to see a problem equal in scope to the problem in the learning community of too many girls.
You cannot think that is the case- there is no such inequality among the groups you mention.
Besides, as I am aware, there are too many girls even in the communities you mention. That is, among the yeshiva orthodox who are not learning- brooklyn college, touro, etc.
Popa: Wish that was the case but I asked my son straight out if it is a Yeshiva Mesorah issue. He said no. The Rabbaim there apparently hold that Sephardim listening to Ashkenazi leining are not yotzei as well and they have separate minyanim. This infuriates me and I need to dig deeper to find out what’s really going on (as the resident Yekkish Litvak Sepharadi)
Interesting. I have never heard of that, but I suppose it is possible that some shittos hold that. I mean, you can find a shittah for just about anything (???? YCT ????) And if there is such a shittah, maybe some people have that minhag.
I like having NASI around. It is good to have someone to blame for our troubles.
It is like when you stub your toe, and there is nobody to yell at. The best thing that can happen is someone happens to walk by and say something stupid, so you can be mad at them.
That is probably not what they said. They probably said they won’t allow someone to lein with a sfardi trop and pronunciation, because that is not our mesorah, and we should seek to protect our mesorah.
If I recall correctly, Wolf got fed up with some of the more right-wing/Chareidi posters here who were spewing Naarishkeit and platitudes themselves without actually thinking about what they said or the situation and has decided to take it out on the CR in a satirical manner.
Hmmm. Can anyone find the post where he started? (I guess this is where having a resident stalker comes in handy.)
“There are more girls (of all types cumulative) available than guys (of all types cumulative) available.”
This is not true. Certainly not to the extent that things have reached, as people call it “crisis proportions”.
You assert that rather certainly. I would imagine that the weight of all the people who think you are incorrect, and the study that was done, would lead you to at least wonder.
In any event, if you were correct, we would see a reverse shidduch crisis in whichever community all the guys are in.
why should your shidduch be dependant on WHO your siblings married???? It makes me sick!
Ok who your parents and family are is understandable because sort of gives an idea on how you were raised etc…, but if the family your sibling married into is totally not your type why should you be judged majorly on that… It doesn’t represent who YOU are! Sick Sick and SICK!!!!
You say that who your parents and family are is understandable, because it gives an idea of how you were raised. So isn’t who your family married part of who they are?
The short answer though is, that in this process, we are doing way too much with way too little information. So anything that can help that information gap is helpful.
I wonder if Wolf will ever tell us what is behind this narishkeit he has.
It doesn’t seem like he does it for pure humor.
Other options include:
He uses these fake aveiros to justify feeling like a rasha so that he can do other ones? Unlikely.
He uses these fake aveiros so that nobody online can accuse him of real ones without the discussion turning to fake ones? Bizarre.
I have no idea. I can’t think of anything that makes sense.
Wolf, I will save you the time of responding to this, by saying for you:
“I wish that was the case. Unfortunately, I actually am a rasha, and am completely serious.”
Gut voch.
It should look like this:
CALORIE
1234 torah lane, lakewood NJ 98765
732-666-6666
Height 6’3″ DOB- 11/15/94
Education:
Bais yaakov
BJJ
MIT
Currently:
Science Chair at (insert name of university)
Parents:
Adam Calorie- tender of gardens
Chava Calorie- Snake charmer
Synagogue affiliation:
Young Israel of Lakewood, Rabbi Sara
References:
shprintza yoilish, 718-666-6666 (teacher at BJJ)
yoilisha shprintz, 917-555-5555 (married friend)
Barak Obama, 202-456-1111 (parents friend)
If you want, you can add in a personality section, which should say this:
Calorie is bright, outgoing, thoughtful and considerate, warm, friendly, engaging, great sense of humor, creative, articulate and compassionate.
(If you want long term learning, just take out the line about going to work.)
As much as they won’t admit it, the boys need shadchanim. Shadchanim should start wielding this power.
I guess you’d be arguing for a shadchanim’s union. Because if guys just stop dealing with a particular shadchan the others will just stop in. Seems to me.
Besides, I get confused when people talk about socializing being a solution to anything. We have plenty of singles events in the frum community, they are just seen as something you do when shadchanim haven’t worked. But it isn’t taboo.
It seems apparent that that there is no fear of not getting the names of girls, however, if you made boys put money up front, and deduct a few dollars every time they delay, drag along and waste your (and everyone else’s) time it might put SOME pressure on them to stop comparing the 47 options on their heilige list and make a decision. Seems to me that it is reasonable
Yes, but you can’t do that. You know why? Because the boys won’t put up with it. And they control the market.
Also, I simply don’t know what your issue is with guys looking at their options before getting into a relationship. It is not like they are not dating- they are dating, usually consecutively. Just not dating everyone at the same time.
Look, if you want to solve this part of the problem, you need to use market forces. The only one I know of is a union with collective bargaining. (That is the point of unions, to counter the bargaining position of employers when there is a glut of labor).
So girls should band together and refuse to date any guys who don’t accede to certain conditions.
I am a 13 year old girl living in Flatbush. I would really like to become friends with other girls my age in the area. Would anyone be willing to meet me at the corner of Ocean Parkway and Avenue J?
P.S. Let’s not tell our parents where we’re going, so it will be more fun.