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popa_bar_abbaParticipant
What about from the outer roadway?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDY: I need to disprove? I need to prove?
No, you need to prove, you need to disprove.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantTrick for remembering how to get to the LIE from the Queensboro Bridge.
The problem is, that there are three places to drive on the bridge, and you need to remember how to get to the LIE from each one. That is, you can be on the upper level, lower level, or outer roadway.
Of course, you could brute force it and just remember each one, but there is a much easier way to do it. Just remembering one klal can give you the whole thing.
If any of you can figure it out, I will stop using any adjective of your choice on this forum, for a week.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIDK where you plan on doing this
In the dorm.
use a deep metal bucket.
I was actually planning to use an old broken charcoal BBQ that I found in my backyard from a previous tenant. I already did the same thing for my new grates when I moved. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/i-moved
I hope UPS is not going to be jerks, and will deliver it even though I am not home. I should have ordered the charcoal from amazon also. Lemme see if they sell.
edit: I checked; the cheapest bag of charcoal sold by amazon was like 21 buck. I think I’ll just go to Canadian Tire.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis idiot was always a non-entity, and continues to be so. I didn’t read the book; I haven’t read his other books; I don’t intend to read his books. He is as irrelevant as NASI.
January 12, 2012 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm in reply to: Frustrated Mothers of Girls: Can we hear your ideas #845468popa_bar_abbaParticipantIn Chassidic circles there’s no shidduch crisis, boys are married off at age 18/19, they don’t go on prolonged dates, they trust their parents, and the system works.
I don’t think your utopian view is precisely accurate.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo what I’m planning to do, is put the pan in the middle of a pile of coals.
January 12, 2012 5:20 am at 5:20 am in reply to: Frustrated Mothers of Girls: Can we hear your ideas #845450popa_bar_abbaParticipantOomis:
That is not the crisis. The crisis is having more girls than boys for whatever reason it happened.
Also the only evidence that your solution would change anything actually shows a negative effect, since the communities with more socialization actually have many more older singles, as DY pointed out.
Now, you say that perhaps it would be different if we would socialize but still keep our other haskafos. Perhaps, perhaps not.
So, since there is no problem to solve, and the solution is pretty ungrounded, I think I’ll do things the way I always did.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIndeed I did not click on the links. What gave it away?
The “to” and “from” location were selectively chosen. A block or so from each of my two bridges. The times would be very different if going from Flatbush or Kew Gardens Hills.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPBA: What determines if a HMR is “shady”? Either it is halachicly valid or it is not. Specifically what did the cheirum specify that a HMR needs more than to be signed by 100 rabbonim?
There was an article about this in one of the magazines a few months ago. I forget exactly.
January 11, 2012 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #848069popa_bar_abbaParticipantOr they feel there are other conflicting priorities. Demolishing the age gap would ruin many Yeshivos (Beis Medrash pays in, Kollel pays out). Keeping Yeshivos open & strong is an extreme priority.
Why do we allow comments like this?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou clearly didn’t click on the links.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantsqueak: Now, which of us is wearing out the other by making them respond to ridiculous things?
Besides, according to google maps, my way is one minute faster. Compare http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vernon+Blvd&daddr=Bruckner+Blvd&hl=en&sll=40.783206,-73.933182&sspn=0.018262,0.042272&geocode=FUzZbQId25yX-w%3BFeyobgIdzvaX-w&vpsrc=6&mra=mru&t=m&z=13 with http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vernon+Blvd&daddr=40.7856378,-73.9297773+to:Bruckner+Blvd&hl=en&sll=40.783206,-73.933182&sspn=0.018262,0.042272&geocode=FUzZbQId25yX-w%3BFeVWbgIdz-uX-yl_-Vmr-fXCiTEqnCkm8mMzPA%3BFeyobgIdzvaX-w&vpsrc=0&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&t=m&z=15
popa_bar_abbaParticipantLet me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine) – and without paying six times the amount for gas!
Anyone could do that. The shtick is to bring your car with you.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDunn Memorial Bridge
What & where is this?
It is the southernmost Hudson River crossing without a toll. Yitayningwut points out that it is near Albany, New York.
Alternatively, you could take the Bear Mountain Bridge, which is one dollar, and is a couple miles closer.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNote: You cannot take the willis avenue bridge from bronx to manhattan, because of construction.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPre campaign.
Odom put chava on a diet and told her not to eat from two of the trees.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantOne word answer:
traffic
Of course there is more traffic. That is because everybody goes that way.
I once had a summer job, and there was a major highway which went right there, but had terrible traffic. So I spent the first month trying different ways to get home quicker. Then I realized what all those people on the highway already knew: that it was the fastest way to go.
Sometimes you think you are being a chochom, but it pays to watch what other people are doing. “Everyone else” is usually correct.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNow this very well could be a political issue the Rabbanut vs the O-U (Read Modern Orthodox)
The rabbanut is certainly not chareidi.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantLet me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine).
Easy.
Take the Dunn Memorial Bridge. Then go south until you do my trick above in reverse by taking 3rd avenue bridge to manhattan, and brooklyn bridge to brooklyn. Stop off in the Brooklyn Marriott on your way across to daven maariv with all the guys on dates.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’ll give you 2 reasons right now. Then, after you’ve spent your energy trying to discredit my reasons, I’ll force you to start over again by giving you more.
I was thinking of wasting your initial effort, by not responding at all. But then I thought of this:
Obesity is harder to hide. Plenty of girls marry smokers unwittingly, name me one guy who didn’t find out until sheva brochos that he married a fatty.
When Avraham Avinu looked at Sarah for the first time on the way down to Mitzrayim, he said ??? ?????. Imagine, until then he was afraid she was really fat! Why didn’t he just ask her?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThat’s idealistic but in reality just not true.
What has this to do with idealism? We’re discussing a specific case. And that case exists; there are people who actually do follow halacha even when it is hard. I’m sure there have been men who went a very long time unable to remarry because they couldn’t get a get or a HMR.
Halachah has different degrees for a reason.
No. That is not correct.
The reason some issurim are more chamur than others, is not so that you can break the less chamur ones when it is hard. I don’t know why you would insinuate that.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI get so mad when I see one of my midwest sisters rushing off to catch a flight to JFK. So in closing, EAST COAST BOYS, GO FISH IN YOUR OWN POND!
Sure. Enjoy dating the 2 guys dating from Telshe (if such even exist, and if they do, they probably fly to NY all the time to date.)
(The purpose of this post is to demonstrate how all the midwest boys are in yeshiva in New Jersey, and they are the midwest brothers of your midwest sisters.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantzahavasdad:
I have no idea what you are talking about. The rabbanut’s job is to paken halacha. When they make a decision about standards, it is not “personal standards,” it is the halacha they are paskening.
Now, I happen to agree with you that the rabbanut should have less official authority. For example, I think the army’s rabbinate should be completely disbanded after their recent politicism of halacha.
But what on earth is your complaint against them. The OU also makes standards, and says that anything which doesn’t meet their standards is not allowed in their certified establishments. And the OU’s standards are not universal- as yitayningwut can tell you. But they need to choose a standard, and they do.
in the ENGLISH, It clearly says its NOT KOSHER, NOT its not to MY STANDARDS
Of course. It is a machlokes in din, and if they pasken it is assur, then they are paskening it is not kosher. If it was a chumrah only, then it would be strange for them to call it non-kosher.
The rabbanut is not the first people to disagree with the heter for cholov stam. Your real issue is that they have an official function- so we agree.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSam:
1. Also, you can’t have a child from mishkav zachar.
2. A man can still care deeply about Halachah and say, “I can’t live life alone, I’ll violate a Cherem so I can keep all 613 Mitzvos.”
No, we aren’t arguing. I’m talking about someone who keeps halacha; not about someone who “cares deeply about halacha.” For someone who keeps halacha, and will continue to keep halacha, it makes no difference at all whether it is a cherem or a minhag or anything.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSam:
Come now; I’m sure we can agree.
The question on the floor is whether it is preferable to be a man locked into a marriage, or a woman.
If we are talking about a person who will not violate halacha, then you should agree there is no difference.
If we are talking about a person who will violate halacha, then I agree it is better to be the man since you will be more socially accepted in your violations.
(Back to the old conversation now. How come if the man marries another man in those states, his kids will not be mamzeirim? After all, that is also an issur ervah of kareis. It is patently unfair!)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantpba: Any citizen of a country has the right to complain about government policy.
Of course. I’m not opposed to his right to complain. I just think it is a stupid complaint.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNY boys have been trained to think they are a commodity therefore they hold themselves on a higher madreiga and do not have to put themselves out. They have been taught that they should not travel oot to date but those girls who wish to date them should do the traveling. They will however consider a girl from OOT, like LA for instance, if she is very wealthy.
I’ll replace that will “all boys,” since almost all the yeshivos that guys date from are in the northeast.
Additionally,
boys have been trained to think they are a commodity
Trained? They are a commodity. Who are you fooling- you need them more than they need you.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantA Frum person could easily choose violating a Cherem over a lifetime of loneliness. We probably wouldn’t even consider him any less Frum for that. But there is no way any woman with even a tiny bit of Yiras Shamayim would violate an Issur Misah, regardless of what the consequences of staying alone are.
And that is an advantage? That his whole life he has to think he could be happy but for a little cherem that may have expired? And constantly wonder whether it might be worth it? I’d take the clear issur any day.
Besides, he has the option of trying to give her the Get B’al Korchah. She has no other way to force him.
That is also assur. She could kill him, but that is assur. (And highly illegal in most states. Unless he is a fetus. Don’t make fun- the gemara discusses whether a father can marry off his fetus daughter, I seem to recall.)
You know what she can do to get back at him? She can start being motzi laaz on her kids from him, that they are really mamzerim. We wouldn’t care in halacha, because ??? ?????? ??? ????, but if you thought smoking was bad for shidduchim, wait until there is a laaz of mamzeirus. (This paragraph is meant to say: There are lots of crazy things crazy people can do. I don’t see the ability to be a rasha as an advantage.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMy 5 year old saw someone he likes smoking and told him “I’m sure you dont know that smoking is dangerous but my zaidy had to have an operation because he smoked”.
My friend’s 5 year old saw someone he likes who was overweight. He said “I’m sure you don’t know that being overweight is dangerous, but my zeidy had to have a quadruple bypass surgery because he ate too much.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThanks for bumping. This thread is awesome. I’ll quote my favorite post.
Any girl or their parents in the parsha of Shuduchim should make it absolutely clear that they will not be interested in anyone who smokes or had a history or smoking.
I agree. We already got the boys to do a similar campaign regarding being overweight, and it was very successful.
It is even easier with smoking because there is no smoking equivalent of anorexia, so there is no side risk.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIf you are referring to girls who are currently living in NY but grew up out of town, it is because they are rednecks.
So what is the problem? Let them marry their siblings.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantthe rabbanut has declared Haagen Daze TRAIF in Israel
Why would you say that? They didn’t say it is treif; they said it is no longer good enough for their hashgacha.
Why would you want to make this an emotional issue instead of just discussing it?
January 11, 2012 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #848037popa_bar_abbaParticipant2. The firm Hirsch, Oelbaum, Bram, Hanover, & Lisker has been retained to provide audit and prepare year end statements. This will ensure proper security of all the Shadchan Project monies. Their reports will be of public record and will be made available upon request.
That’s nice. I was never concerned about the bookkeeping. I was concerned about the money.
Is the money in escrow? Who is the escrow agent?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo exactly what is ridiculous?
What is ridiculous, is that you think it is somehow easier to be man because your issurim don’t affect your kids’ status. Since it is still assur.
A man whose wife will not accept a get, and who cannot obtain a legitimate heter meah rabbonim (you can always get a shady one- it costs about 50k), is CHAINED (as you put it, in caps). He CANNOT move on with his life, and cannot be married to anyone at all because she refuses to accept the get.
If he has no children, he CANNOT remarry and have children from a second wife until she dies.
Sure, he can become not frum, and stop caring about halacha, and marry a woman without telling her he is already married, or marry a shiktza, or in some states he can even marry another man. -But I don’t really see that as an advantage.
In any event, a woman can also ignore halacha, and just go marry again without a get. So her kids will be mamzerim- as long as we’re not caring about halacha, who cares? Mamzerim can also ignore halacha, and get married.
Or hey! If we get enough women to stop caring about halacha, they can make whole communities of mamzerim, who can marry each other. And those people won’t have to worry about divorces at all- since their kids are mamzerim anyway!
popa_bar_abbaParticipantLook, there is a machlokes about relying on govt standards to avoid the issur of cholov yisroel. I happen to rely on poskim who are mattir it, as do you. But I can certainly understand those who don’t permit it.
Every hashgacha needs to determine whether they are relying on it. In a country like Israel which has a centralized state religion, and official religious officials, they will naturally have to choose some standard.
I don’t see how you can complain that they didn’t choose your standard. I do see how you can complain about having an official religion.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAre you referring to girls who are currently living out of town?
If so, the reason is that it disrupts your life to be constantly flying back and forth, and also that it adds unneeded pressure when each additional date will cost several hundred dollars.
If you are referring to girls who are currently living in NY but grew up out of town, it is because they are rednecks.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFor the old-timers (and newish-timers) here, a CR trivia thread would be fun.
Trivia threads are no fun, because people just make stuff up.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthello: The seasoning process on cast iron is a different process. The purpose is to create a crust of carbonized oil, making it not rust, and non-stick. It is not part of the manufacturing process.
See this: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/770275
popa_bar_abbaParticipantItche: That is part of the question. That CRC article I linked holds it is only bliyus.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthello99: It is put on at 400 degrees. And it is always food grade oil. I think this is different from the aluminum foil pans- people in the food forums talk about which pig fat or olive oil, or butter, they personally use.
The company I bought claims to use a vegetable oil, and sometime in the past, even advertised that it was OU certified oil- but that is no longer the case.
Here are seasoning instructions: http://www.lodgemfg.com/use-care-seasoned-cast-iron.asp#3
And here are the FAQs: http://www.lodgemfg.com/use-care-help.asp#5
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAnonym613: That is ridiculous. If you eat treif, your kids are also not mamzeirim, but that doesn’t mean that you have nothing to lose by eating treif.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantItche: The basic metzius seems to be that the oil gets absorbed into the pores of the metal, and then burns into a sort of crust. Check out this article: http://www.crcweb.org/Sappirim/Sappirim%2022%20%28Jan%202012%29.pdf
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNu? Nobody has anything to say about my cast iron pan?
Someone showed me an article by the CRC which said it needs hagalla, and you don’t need to wash it down before you do so.
A certain rav I asked, said it was a sfeik sfeika, and therefore I should do hagalla. He didn’t tell me what the second safeik is, nor why hagalla was necessary.
I still think it is easier to just do libun than to hock with hagalla.
Except that if I do libun, I will need to reseason it, while if I do hagalla, the seasoning will probably survive. The CRC did pasken that the issur is bliyus, and not mamashus- but should it feel weird that hagalla will make it muttar while I can clearly see that the oil is still present? So what if it feels weird, if that is the halacha- then that is the halacha.
hello? hello? hello? (99)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo, as far as the competition goes, does this count as another blocking for me, or for DY?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI want to buy a cast iron pan, but they come “pre-seasoned” with oil. (They coat the pan with ostensibly soybean oil, and bake it).
So, even according to Rabbi Abadi, there could potentially be a problem, since there is no eidus that they are using vegetable oil, and there is no industry standard to use only vegetable oil, and it is not a food item so it is not subject to FDA regulation. (I can’t imagine he’d rely on tort liability for false or misleading advertising.)
So, my idea is to put it inside a pile of charcoal, and light the pile, and let it burn down. Seems to me like that would be libun gamur.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI have used Terri Kalker. She is a frum lady. She will probably defer your hearing a million times until she gets the judge she likes.
When I used her a year and a half ago for a right turn without signaling, she charged me 125 for the case, and got it dismissed about a month ago. The ticket was 130, but this way I escaped with no points. (I think the usual rate at that time was actually 150, but the receptionist gave me a discount- I don’t know why.)
Her number is 718-275-0780.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantwhat is your dinner that you dont want tot ruin?
You know how to spell “odradeks,” but you don’t know how to spell “to?”
January 8, 2012 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm in reply to: Ending a Shidduch process is a reason needed #842124popa_bar_abbaParticipantPoppa -“I’m not sure where hakaras hatov comes in. I don’t see why the shadchan has any legitimate reason for wanting to know. I don’t think you have any obligation to fuel the shadchans disgusting snooping habit.”
That is an unfair and cruel statement. Most shadchanim make shidduchim to help people out and it is only menchlichkeit for someone to follow up and let the shadchan know what is going on. It sounds like you had a bad experience with a shadchan but that gives you no excuse to bash shadchanim and make them out to be “the bad guys”.
yoya: You misunderstand.
I assume most- if not all- shadchanim don’t care to know why you broke it off. I assume most shadchanim are doing it to be helpful; not because they are disgusting snoops. I agree with you.
I was simply responding to the posters who thought that if your shadchan happens to be a snoop, that you should satisfy their deviant curiosity, and it is somehow “hakaras hatov.”
Don’t we agree? Do you think it is hakaras hatov to satisfy someone’s deviant needs?
January 8, 2012 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm in reply to: How would you rate Machon Bais Yaakov Seminary? #859398popa_bar_abbaParticipantI heard all the girls there are fat. Can anyone confirm this? How fat are we talking?
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