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Sam: certainly different MK’s have different intentions.

Still, it is quite clear that the majority of chilonim don’t want people to be frum at all. They say that outright. And it is obvious that this is a step in that plan.

You don’t see it as that, because your community draws religious value from serving, and I wouldn’t be surprised if people from the chardal community come out of the army more religious.

But, chareidim are certainly not going to see it as that, and it is quite certain to have a negative effect, and that is certainly part of the goal.

I am certain this is shaas shmad.

Shaas shmad is not defined by how many mitzvos they are attempting to stop us from doing, but from their motivation. Their motivation is to break down chareidi society–not only because they don’t want to pay for it, but also because they don’t want people to be frum. They do not hide this purpose.

(and whoever mentioned the holocaust: No comparison, it goes by the purpose.)

I actually know a really outrageous story about this.

This guy was dating two girls and both were getting pretty serious. It got to the point that he had decided to get engaged to one of them, but he was still also dating the other.

So, he went out with the other intending to break up. But, it ended up getting very involved, and at the end of that night (morning), he was engaged to THAT one! So, they told their parents and friends, and he went back to the dorm and went to sleep.

Meanwhile, hos friends posted it on onlysimchas. But, they didn’t know her name, so they just wrote that he was engaged to “someone”.

Then, the first girl’s friends saw it, and knew she was dating him, so they all started posting “OMG! I’m so going to wear out my dancing shoes just walking to the hall! May you order the Yated neeman israel edition!”, and calling her.

The first girl had actually been talking about getting engaged with him, so she started womdering if HE thought they were engaged, but his phone is off, and she doesn’t know what to do.

B’kitzur, he spoke to his rosh yeshiva, who said he should keep up the pretense, and should marry both. And then he should have a house in israel and a job in america and commute every other week, and they’ll never know.

So that’s what I did.

this is so dumb. this is really really dumb. for real. So you can go and tell that, go and tell that, go and tell that, homeboy homeboy homehomehomeboy.

I think that visiting day is very worth it, and the harder it is to come, the more worth it it is. It is a great opportunity to show your kid how interested you are in what he is doing, that you drive a whole day in traffic just to do so.

Just shut up, get your kids a DVD player (uncle moishe of course), get yourself a book on tape, pack a cooler full of soda and a box full of potato chips, and drive.

Personally, I would forget the whole motel thing, and bring a big tent instead, and then spend the night at a park upstate with a big barbeque and a fire and ghost stories.

How is this different from the other threads?

SIDI: I don’t find your complaining on this thread and site very attractive either. That’s the way it is; it’s a moderated site, and the commenting sometimes is slow. And most of us are only here because it is moderated.

Thanx for saying it for me.

If you show a mod your PBA card, does he approve your post?

….Or, does he delete your post?

Yes, let’s have hamburgers in my cast iron pan.

Let’s call that thread it’s own special name.

How about: “Saw You at Sinai”?

I wouldn’t want to date someone that “noone else would ever think of”.

Make that 5 real dollars and you’ve got a deal.

I don’t have an opinion over whether it should be legal.

But, I do have an opinion that it should not be “half legal”. If it is illegal, we should prosecute the consumers, since that is what creates the demand and hence the supply chain. It is retarded to go after the sellers and let the users off.

You think it is silly to speak yiddish?

Is it silly to speak spanish?

Is it silly to speak Italian?

What in the world are you talking about?

Oy, how could you go to a schoolwhich worships yushke and has tzeilems all over the place?

(Sorry, but this IS the CR after all.)

My other username is very influential. He once convinced me to post some crazy troll thread.

AviK: are you serious? Chanuka and the other hasmonean victories was a celebration that we were able to keep the torah–since that was the only threat anyway.

Mazel Tov!

Now you can volunteer in Africa, and marry a Zulu tribesman!

You would never trust yourself after one date? Or you would be wary after one date? I’m sure you would not always go on a second date.

In any event, that isn’t the question: the question is whether it is appropriate for a shadchan to try to shame someone into going on a second date. If you approve of that, then I have nothing left to say to you.

Tell the shadchan that it is very immature to try to embarress people into doing something by calling them immature.

Then, blacklist the shadchan. Post their name on the CR so everyone else can get in on it.

Then, say “you wanna see immature?”, and TP her house tonight. I’m in!

I agree in substantial part with RSRH.

However, I don’t imagine the kid is happy now either and is seeing positive in his new life. I imagine he is just running away from the pain in his old life.

This pain may well be related to this issue, if he has been told that the only way he will be happy is living in an exact lifestyle–and he finds himself unhappy in it; well that can feel pretty hopeless.

That usually happens more among kids who are told that not only nust they be frum, but they must also learn or be in chinnuch their whole life–and be happy!