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I go by minhag hamakom. In NYC, I bump like a banshee. In most other places, I try not to touch, but am more careful in cities where people are more careful.
One time, there was simply nowhere to park except one very small space, which I wasn’t even sure my car would fit into. I bumped and bumped, and got my car in, with approximately 2-3 inches combined on both sides (I have pictures to prove it, and I am not exaggerating.)
When I came back, the guy in the car behind me was sitting in his car. So he calls me over to yell at me. So he is an old man, so I go over, and listen, and apologize, and say I was very gentle, etc. Then, we start shmoozing, and I end up there shmoozing with him for 2.5 hours. He was an old frum man, whose wife had died, and had fought in Normandy.
I figured it was a joke when I saw it.
But, I think this story shows us something about the sincerity of our brothers and sisters who are always on our case for our tznius rules. Their usual refrain is that men should restrict themselves instead of restricting women. Then, when a story breaks about men “blinding” themselves, all they do is make fun.
Dvarim bgav. Yesh davar bsoch davar.
That may be what kfb meant. That is not what those words mean, however.
You wouldn’t be friends with someone who has homosexual feelings? That is retarded.
You continue to prove the point.
As you note, you are using the encounter to evaluate whether you would like to marry her. That is, the encounter is not entirely platonic.
You happen to think that sort of encounter is appropriate, and I agree (for people in your situation). But, it certainly is not appropriate if the woman is not a potential mate, and you should agree to that.
I’m quite sure there is nothing I could say to convince you, so I’ll not try.
But, just to make fun of you, I’ll note that your second bullet point is about bad parenting…
Also, your third bullet point is precisely the point (with a bit more explanation). But, the real problem is when the parents have that attitude. When the parents are good, then it is almost impossible for anything else to matter. But, when the parents are bad, then everything the school does just reinforces it.
My pshara is, that Gefen should absolve Yummy from all duties relating to laundry, including her own, for the period of 1 week. This is in consideration for Gefen having aired their dirty laundry in public.
Yitay: R’ Moshe says that we assume that.
This reminds me of another shaila with my dumb friend http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/my-dumb-friend. So this friend thinks that he needs a girl who has some azus; because it fits his personality well. (He says this, again though, he is dumb.)
So the problem is that he can’t marry a BT, because if she has azus, then the assumption is she is a ben nidda. I told him that he is too dumb to know if she has azus anyway.
Sam, I forgot how charged this issue was. :-))
Part of this depends on what you are trying to do with your degree.
Tell us more.
Poppa bar abba:That comment really is not becoming of someone of your well read stature.There are many wonderful normal fine parents who try everything conventionally and unconventionally and still have a kid OTD.
It is precisely because of my well read stature that I say this. Kids go OTD because of bad parenting. Many wonderful fine people are bad parents, and it is quite impossible for you to know they are not bad parents by just being friends with their family and visiting their house.
Despite what you are told by your soothsayers, there are no mysterious OTD’s. Every one has a good explanation. Give me a couple hours with them, and I can usually figure it out too.
And it is exactly that type of parent, who would also disinherit same kid. Thus reinforcing the problem they started.
Blazes Englishman, you can also just blow yourself up and get 70!
Oh, I thought you were going to say it was the same friend. You should tell him to marry the one from the UWS.
The type of parent who causes an OTD kid, is the type of parent who would inherit same kid.
Hey, I like the fact that not all of the girls will respond to my “good shabbos”. At least now I know they’re completely not for me…
And this precisely proves why men should not be greeting women and women greeting men, in the street. You perfectly show how the casual encounter actually does have a sexual overtone.
It is pretty ridiculous for the UPS lady to complain about having to deliver packages…
WIY: I hadn’t been online in a couple days. I was still on vacation.
What are girls (men)?
How about ordering huge computers and printers and boxes of diapers and coins from the mint to the office? Is that a good idea?
Talk about the CR.
I’ll read any thread that has BS listed as the last post.
Rule 1# never take PBA seriously ….
So many rules, I can’t keep track of all of them.
OOM thinks BS should have posted that here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-would-you-do-if
The new people always take posters like Popa and The Wolf seriously.
I dunno about that. I didn’t when I was new.
I always whistle, because people tell me it attracts sheidim.
So when you are camping in the wilderness, you are always a bit wary of bears during the night, and that’s why you don’t keep any food or smelly stuff in your tent.
But there are always funny noises during the night, that sound like footsteps near your tent, or rustling in the bushes. So I just tell myself it is probably a sheid and go back to sleep.
I know a really mean one. When I was in yeshiva, one of the guys would get so worked up over nothing. So, just to get his goat–we killed his wife.
So funny…He was so mad…We were rooooollinng.
(In other words, this thread is retarded, and I’m horrified that you people get your kicks imagining how to be mean to people.)
I was once whistling in yeshiva, and the mashgiach told me: “If you whistle, you are not a goy. But a goy whistles”.
I said, “what”?
He said it is linked to gaava.
Because there would still be only the same amount of goods and services as before.
thanks choco. That’s about the correct answer. (Plus one more bit, which I didn’t want to post).
And on that topic: In Yad V’shem, when you come to the end of the tunnel, there is a room about the immigration to Israel. In that room, they play Hatikva being sung by kids in pre-war Europe. You will notice a couple of differences in the words, which I find a bit telling. (I have on idea as to the origins of the two versions, or which one predates which.)
It goes:
??? ?? ???? ???????
????? ??????
???? ???? ???????
???? ????, ??? ?? ???
Notice the three changes which are one. This other version is referring to a desire to return to Israel, to our ancestral homeland where King David established his kingdom. The desire is to live there as a people.
The currently used version is:
??? ?? ???? ???????
????? ???? ?????
????? ?? ???? ???????
???? ???? ???????
See, the focus of the desire here is to be an independent nation. It is a nationalistic desire.
I happen to find the hatikva very emotional, but I related much more to the desire for eretz yisroel than for the desire for independent rule. (Don’t get me wrong, I have plenty of desire for independence, it is just not nearly as strong as my desire for eretz yisroel.)
Well, then only read some of my posts.
Thanks moski.
And just for the record, I have been blocked at least twice.
One time was for this: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tefillah-1
Another time was for an unfortunate misunderstanding with mod 80, which I will not repeat, because the misunderstanding was inappropriate.
There may have been other times also.
Feif: You’ve convinced me, I agree.
(Still withholding the respect for the medal though.)
I’m making bread today with spent grain from beer making (the grain left after the sparge). I’ll let y’all know how it turns out.
No, it’s the jews. I know.
Which means you need help. Ok I’ll give it to you youre smart. Now please grow up.
And funny. Say I’m also funny.
mewho: That’s a load of hogwash.
I ain’t judging who is a tzadik and who is a rasha (except joseph of course), but you certainly should be willing to call out who is following halacha and who is not.
Actually, I swallowed your whole stock last monday. And took like a week and a half off from posting.
Some people think I’m a troll.
I’m not having fun. I wish I had never made acquaintance with this creep.
Can someone tell us more about that? I read the entry for Rebbi nachman in the encyclopedia judaica, and it said he was quite controversial in his life as well. I’m not too familiar with that work though.
We don’t need to bicker about what you did or didn’t mean.
If you mean that goyim seeing that jews are like them will lessen anti semitism, I think you are delusional.
I respect them because they worked so hard for something.
Ok, but plenty of people do.
It’s amazing to work at something every day and accomplish your goals ( mainly being the best in the world at something).
Now you are being more accurate. People don’t respect olympians for working hard–they respect them for being the best. Well, they aren’t the best at anything valuable.
Honestly most goyim when they think of Jews think of chassidim with long payos and and nickers. ( which is fine) BUT maybe if they think they can relate to us a little better it will lead to less anti-semitism. Who knows.
Of course. If we’d just be more like them, we could all get along. We’ve been trying that on and off for about 3000 years I think. It hasn’t worked too well.
It is pretty rare that I flew for 143 roundtrip to Belize on an unadvertised sale during peak season (December).
Nobody would have been so surprised if the tickets had just gone straight through with no further comment from anyone. Anyone who is saying it was an obvious mistake is either monday morning quarterbacking, or unfamiliar with the airline industry.
Is it ludicrous? I think it is perfectly intuitive.
Who was that story with the rav who asked what if his congregation doesn’t rise with mashiach, who will he lead? And he was told if his congregation doesn’t rise, won’t either.
President of the US pays 400k, and comes with a free house. No degree necessary.