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popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Why doesn’t the gemara say to learn hakaras hatov from a cat, since if you give it milk, it will come back and meow every day?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhy should this be worse than learning tznius from the cat or not stealing from the ant?
First answer my question, then I’ll answer yours.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFor really, I don’t follow. The penguin is obviously not doing it for hakaras hatov, so I’m not really getting what the moral is.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMaybe it visits to get fed
popa_bar_abbaParticipantHealth, would you marry someone 40 years older than you?
March 7, 2016 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm in reply to: To people who shidduch dated someone and broke up after 10+ times #1140580popa_bar_abbaParticipantThere is a halachic school of thought that once a tenaim has been made the engagement should not be broken under any circumstances.
Litvaks do the tenaim at the wedding.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDo you mean and?
Two different arguments.
1. Poor people get divorced more, and also poor people die younger, so its correlated with the same cause, instead of one causing other.
2. Divorce makes people poor, which makes them die younger.
Because then getting divorced does cause a shorter life span, albeit with an intermediate step.
Right, but then you should focus on the important factor. So that if you’re rich, then it’s ok. Or if you’re poor anyway, then it’s also ok. Like eating pizza and dying young–you only need to worry if you’re not fat anyway.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBecause perhaps children dying at 65 instead of 70 is what caused the parents to get divorced when the kids were 3.
Very creative. Creative thinking is a very good skill in statistical analysis.
I’m not as creative. I was thinking perhaps poor folks get divorced and die young. Or getting divorced is a risk factor for growing up poor.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAnother point the study found, that I hadn’t mentioned, was that parental divorce while the kids were still children statistically has also been shown to lead to a shorter lifespan for the children of the divorcees.
You mean statistically correlated with. Statistics can’t show which caused the other, or what other factors caused either.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou read it?
March 7, 2016 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm in reply to: To people who shidduch dated someone and broke up after 10+ times #1140570popa_bar_abbaParticipantSpeed dating wouldn’t help, as it doesn’t address the underlying issues.
Not sure where you’re going with that. If the underlying issue was a non-crooked nose it could have helped a lot.
Which story?
how many stories were in my post.
Folks having beshows effectively speed date with great results.
that term doesn’t mean what you think it does.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWell at a basic level, the attractive ones are all insisting on normal guys, which is the problem you’re having.
However, rest assured that the super-duper attractive ones have their own issues and won’t settle for any normal guy either, so all you need is to find the one whose psychosis complements yours.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSteadily married men — those who remained in long-term marriages — were likely to live to age 70 and beyond; fewer than one-third of divorced men were likely to live to 70; and men who never married outlived those who remarried and significantly outlived those who divorced — but they did not live as long as married men.
People married for at least 100 years lived the longest.
What sort of idiotic study is this?
March 7, 2016 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm in reply to: To people who shidduch dated someone and broke up after 10+ times #1140566popa_bar_abbaParticipantShe had a crooked nose.
It happened when she broke her nose on our 9th date skiing. That’s why it wasn’t an issue until then.
Aside: the yated has been hocking about speed-dating. I fully agree that speed dating is problematic, as shown from this story.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantCTLawyer: It’s totally your right and completely normal to spend money on stuff you like. But I’m not buying the moralizing. When you spend money on your animal’s health instead of giving it to help a sick human, you’re spending the money to make yourself happy and that’s it. If you think it’s a moral duty, that’s just gross.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAnd in addition to that, saying this candy has an OU on the outside is deliberately misleading.
IF it was upside down day.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDY, I feel like you’re trying to make a broader point, and pin it on this example.
Maybe your broader point is true, but isn’t applicable in this instance? You weaken your point by tying it to a particular example where it doesn’t fit well.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou will find many hechsherim in McDonald’s too. Obviously you use your seichel and don’t buy a quarter pounder just because the ketchup has a hechsher on it. The issue here his one of assumption. Three ingredient panels so assume check three times.
Yes, of course, if one notices that the hashgacha is part of the ingredient panel and that there are multiple ingredient panels, they would look at the others.
Same as if they went into McDonalds and noticed a hashgacha on the ice cream.
That’s all fine.
The issue is the morons here who are assuming that obviously anyone who noticed the OU would have also noticed that it was part of an ingredient panel of which there were multiple, just because they noticed it after the fact.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWould a single flavor of jolly ranchers have an ou in front or only at ingredients panel. If normally in front and this didn’t have one and you find three ingredient panels 1) What prompted to lookc at panel to begin with if normally don’t do so and 2) why read only one ingredient panel and look for ou there if that is the norm, if there are three panels.
That’s a lot of analysis. Do your ordinarily keep track of each product like that?
I don’t. I look all over for a hechsher until I find one. Then I eat it.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNo, actually I wasn’t. But feel free if that’s what works for you.
Ok. Feel free to explain the intent of your previous post then.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAh, we’re up to insults? I’m all in.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNo, I did look at the package before commenting on this story.
So I’m back to not being sure what your angle is.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThat’s exactly my point pops. You DON’T analyze, you just read. But when you look for the ingredients on the panel, you can’t not notice that there are three to choose from. Do you sometimes see the word SOUP and think that’s an OU too because you just picked it up and ran?
I don’t look at the ingredients on most things I eat. So I’m not sure what your angle is on that.
If you ordinarily DO read the ingredients on each label, then your thinking here makes sense. Be advised, you are in the minority.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBut the outside packaging does not have and OU. The ingredient panel for two out of three has OU and it is not possible to analyze that panel without noticing that there are two more ext to it. You would really have to be an idiot to analyze this package and think that this “package” bears an OU.
FTFY
I’m calling garbage. I don’t believe that when you buy something, you really analyze the packaging like that before buying it. I know I don’t–I look for a hechsher and as soon as I see one I buy it.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantthis thred makes no sens
February 29, 2016 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm in reply to: If there is 1 thing i should bring to seminary, what should it be? #1149536popa_bar_abbaParticipantA closed mind
FTFY
February 29, 2016 3:31 am at 3:31 am in reply to: If there is 1 thing i should bring to seminary, what should it be? #1149525popa_bar_abbaParticipantthats six
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February 29, 2016 3:23 am at 3:23 am in reply to: If there is 1 thing i should bring to seminary, what should it be? #1149523popa_bar_abbaParticipant3 in 1 shampoo and conditioner and chocolate syrup.
February 29, 2016 2:01 am at 2:01 am in reply to: If there is 1 thing i should bring to seminary, what should it be? #1149519popa_bar_abbaParticipantPizza
popa_bar_abbaParticipantOP is asking about wine chips. Otherwise he would have specified potato chips or corn or tortilla or flotilla chips or whatever. You’re all morons for not seeing that, and in particular dy and the brocha on all of you is
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIts a 50/50 chance every time.
Of course it isn’t. The fact that there are two choices does not make the chances 50 50 unless that is the only fact you know.
Ceo’s of fortune 500 companies can be men or women. If you’re about to meet a ceo you don’t know, is there a 50 50 chance?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNistar. I can’t tell you.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanthagafen.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNope, never come over again. It’s me or that animal
popa_bar_abbaParticipantNu, google around and you’ll find the machmirim also.
And I have no idea how they apply the oil. Maybe the machine runs them through a hot bath–how should I know?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantMaybe there’s lard in the plastc…
plastic is made out of oil. Oil is made out of pigs.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant1. Hagalah works on wood
A. I don’t have a pot big enough to dip it.
B. I don’t want to ruin the finish.
C. Pot is assur.
2. A davar charif needs duchka d’sakina (or heat) to extract taam (and the pressure from the board doesn’t count, there is a tshuva from R’ Yitzchak Elchonon on this…)
I’m pretty sure we’re noheig that cutting boards are an issue. Google around.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI don’t think you need to be yitayningwut to not worry about block oil.
Pretty sure yitay would agree with me on this one. This isn’t food where yitay would say you can trust the label that they put inside what they wrote because there is regulation. Block oil is not regulated.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantOr the block oil. You are not actually putting it into your food, and it’s essentially a kosher item.
How do you know it’s kosher? If it says rice oil then it must be rice oil? Is that how eid echod neeman b’isurin works?
February 24, 2016 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm in reply to: Should Yeshiva's (all of them) say Mishberach for Israel soldiers on Shabbos? #1139730popa_bar_abbaParticipant– Davenning and Hakoras hatov are an interesting link. I am sure many would argue they feel grateful and that is enough. if you disagree, are you not guilty of your own first point?
I see. So in your world, prayers invented by the shilton hakofrim are binding, but by the anshei knesses hagedola are not.
nice.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant1) I can’t imagine they wouldn’t add pagum chemicals to prevent the pigs’ oil from stinking worse than a cow’s stomach.
It’s a cutting board, not a bridal veil.
2) Even l’shitascha hat’uyah, apushatayid’s eitzah would work.
What would I reseason it with? The block oil doesn’t have a hechsher, and there’s no eid echod.
3) I hope your stomach is stronger than a cow’s.
It isn’t for me. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/hashgacha-pratis-2
popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo like the oil in cutting boards, it’s nosein ta’am lifgam.
As noted above, I’m cutting hot peppers, so hot they would burn a hole in a cow’s stomach.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis isn’t a case where you found a rock and you’re wondering whether its really a potato. You found oil-)ou can’t just assume its kosher until you find out otherwise. I don’t agree.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIs sand kosher? Probably ground up lobster shells.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI think a better way of saying what you’re saying is that there’s a very strong rov?
If I find a piece of meat in a sack, there’s a safeik what it is. If you found out that only kosher meat is stored in sacks and treif meat is always stored in bags, that might create a rov.
February 24, 2016 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm in reply to: Should Yeshiva's (all of them) say Mishberach for Israel soldiers on Shabbos? #1139719popa_bar_abbaParticipantI personally find it to be a lack of Hakoras Hatov in the heigest degree when klall Yisroel -and that includes the Yeshivishe velt in Israel and Golus- refrain in saying on Shabbos the Prayer for Tzahal.
And if you invented a new prayer for tzahal that needs to be said every day at chatzos, it would be a lack of hakaras hatov that I don’t say that either.
Let’s start with the lack of hakaras hatov to Hashem in the fact that most people don’t daven at all.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantGAW: So you think there’s a rov that paskens the cutting board in front of you was finished with mineral oil?
Can you just please walk us through the kuf yud aleph analysis, for those of us a bit rusty on the rules.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’m not familiar with the parameters of that.
But I assume you’re trying to say there’s some sort of assumption that the oil is kosher, since I don’t imagine that it means you can eat random oil you find. So, why are you assuming that?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantLook, none of these things might work, but you’ll definitively do them because otherwise you’ll think they would have.
I put mederma on after I had stitches. I have a scar.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAs I’ve previously noted, if the medina is the mashiach we’ve been waiting 2000 years for, it’s have been better to have just converted to Christianity back then.
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