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Menachem Shmei, i have seen documentaries protraying Chareidim in a negative light. I have never attacked Chareidim based on any documentary and my opinions on Chareidim are not hinged on any documentary. In fact, if there were opportunities to defend Chareidim over a documentary that portrayed Chareidim in a false manner, i defended Chareidim and blasted the documentary. My opinions of individuals and groups and communities are based on their beliefs and actions, not on an edited false narrative.

I’m asking you to clarify your beliefs. Do you believe the Rebbe runs the world, that he is everywhere, that you can pray to him anywhere and he’ll listen to your prayer and help, and that he never made mistakes? (These are the attributes omnipotence and omnipresence which are attributes of Hashem) Yes or no? It’s not an essay question. Just answer a simple, one word answer, yes or no.

I wondered what percentage of Lubavitche believe in the rebbe having divine powers. But all I see is that whenever Lubavitche attempt to defend Chabad (not only here on this site)they do not deny that they believe that the Rebbe runs the world, that he’s all over and that you can pray to him where you are, that he never made mistakes and all kinds of ideas and the worshiping behaviors they engage in worshipping their rebbe. They simply think that by throwing “shmutz” at those who are exposing their behavior and criticizing it, that it will blind people to the truth of what Chabad is and scare people off from criticizing them. So I can only assume at this point, when not one Lubavitche has said clearly that they themselves, and that mainstream Lubavitche, do not believe that the Rebbe runs the world and have all the other deity-like attributes they claim their rebbe has, that that is what they all believe in?

Potato, regardless if you bring sources that moshiach can come from the dead, the fact is that many Lubavitche rabbis claim that the Rebbe is PHYSICALLY alive. For moshiach to fulfill the prophecies he would have to be alive so if you believe your Rebbe is the moshiach he would have to have techius maysim first. Why don’t non-Chabad rabbunim protest the belief that the rebbe is moshiach?They dont care, and rightfully so, because its not a”z to believe that the Rebbe is moshiach.

The problem is, and I keep repeating this, is the a”z aspect of worshipping your rebbe. I have said that it’s a chillul Hashem that no one is speaking out against the avodah zora that goes on. However, I will be dan l’kaf zchus that like most frum people, gedolim have no clue that Lubavitche believe their rebbe is running the world, that they are are praying to the rebbe’s chair, that they believe they can pray to the lubavitche rebbe like to a god, that they make aliyahs for him like hes alive, that they make believe that he’s giving dollars to the oilim, that they say that the rebbe never made mistakes, etc, etc. The behavior of making believe that the rebbe is giving out dollars and l’chaims is like those who worship actual idols; they make as if their god is actually doing the physical work. The gedolim have no clue, like most frum people, that this is what Lubavitche believe in and actually do.

gobrit, the argument at this point is not so much if the Rebbe is moshiach. If only the moshiach aspect would be the case no would care this much. The bigger issue is the worship of their rebbe. Would you be OK with Christian communities living amongst us, dressed as Chareidim, feeling like they are Chareidim, mingling with us? Would their hechsheirim be accepted as kosher? Would people buy from their sofrim? Would they daven in their sohuls? The early Christians were “frum” Jews, so this scenerio was the reality 2,000 years ago.
The bigger problem is not Chabad meshiachistens insistence that their dead rebbe is moshiach, that is the source of the problem but not the extent of the problem. The bigger problem is that Chabiadinity is not Judaism. It is a seperate religion of kofrim who believe the Rebbe runs the world, the Rebbe is everywhere, that one should pray to him, that he knows everything, that he never made mistakes and thar he is alive in a physical sense. The is a”z mamesh. That we have people from this religion giving hechsheirim and providing food, having minyanim all over the world where Jewish travelers daven and provide services and mingling with us is a huge, huge problem as well as a chillul shem shomayim.

I went to Satmer school. My family is not Satmer nor Satmer geshtimt. We read both, the Jewish Press and Der Yid, religiously every week. No one in my family had any pro or anti Zionist opinions. To them, it was what it was. For me, having an opinion on everything even as a young kid, I could not understand what the Satmere wanted the Yidden in Israel to do in the face of attacks by the Arabs. Learning the history of pre-independant Israel and the way the Arabs kept on attacking the Jews and cutting off food and supply routes, it was ridiculous to me that the anti-Zionists expected the Jews to sit with folded hands and not protect themselves. I also found it incredibly naive for anti-Zionists to believe the UN or an international body made up of non-Jews, as they used to propose an idea of who can govern Israel instead of the Zionists, would do anything to protect Jews.

Today however, I do realize the extent the secular Zionists have destroyed Israel with their own hands. There are today almost no secular Zionists, they are for the most part simply leftists. They have destroyed their own ideology and they are constantly putting Israel at security risk. Giving away land to the enemies, giving in to terrorist demands, cowering in the face of international pressure, imprisoning their soldiers, these are all the products of secular Zionist education that has left generations of secular empty shells due to their upbringing devoid of Yiddishkeit. Their entire ideology of secular Zionism has collapsed.

As for the rightwing Zionists, I support the frum ones who adhere to Rav Kook zt”l teachings, not the ones who put living in the land before halcha and end up trampling on halacha.

I still believe Jews not only have a right to defend themselves, but they have an obligation to do so, and I will always believe that.
Having said that, due to the tarivos and secular ideology that permeates the IDF, the secular have no right to draft the Chareidim into the army.

My views my look paradoxical, but I think that it reflects the reality.

Potato and sechel, instead of answering my questions about your beliefs about the Lubavitche Rebbe you claim lies are being fed and people are taught to hate… B’kitzer, you think that by skirting the questions instead of being honest, and using the words “wild allegations, sinas chinum and machloikes” you can scare people off from shedding light onto your avoda zora worship. The videos and articles from Lubavitche “rabbis” are there and you ignore it. The questions are put forth and you ignore it. You think people are blind? You think you can hide under the cover of the words “sinas chinum and machloikes”?

Yserbius, many women today supposedly need to know the sources of halacha of tznius and then proceed to trample on basic halacha because they think they can “pasken ” that rabbanim like Rabbi Falk was a “machmir”. Is it written anywhere in the Torah that you cant to go with a wig and hair till the waist? Does it say in the Torah that you can’t wear a bodysuit? It’s ridiculous that these women think they can pasken halacha because they supposedly know the sources which they then proceed to write off as “machmirim”. And how do you think these “female dayanim” go dressed? Bare elbows, short skirts, no stockings, hair and wigs length till their behinds, form fitting clothing, etc, etc. They brazenly disregard basic halachas they claim to be experts in.

EchadHaemes, please state a source that says knowing Christian theology is assured. Many great Rabbis knew Christian theology. I’m not saying it’s for everyone to learn, some people get easily swayed by arguments even if those arguments are illogical. Many frum people like myself who know Christian history and theology well see the path Chabad is heading on with their belief in the Rebbe as moshiach and his divine powers eerily similar to Christianity. If Berger knows Christian history and theology then it is understandable that he sees the danger in the Chabad ideology of belief in the rebbe as Moshiach and having divine powers being that it is so similar to Christianity.

sechel, there are meforshim that our great Rabbis wrote on the pesukim in Tanach, chazal, gemorah, etc, etc. that helps us understand things that would be hard to understand. It is Lubavitche like you who twist everything out of context. For example when Rashi says that Yaacov avinu did not die there are numerous mefarshim that explain what it means. There is no mefoiresh saying that he is here with us physically. And yet i heard a Chabad rabbi claim that Rashi said that Yaacov is with us physically; that is a lie. When chabad “rabbis” claim that the Rebbe is here with us physically and that he runs the world you know good and well that they mean it absolutely literally. In fact, everything they “teach” revolves around “proving” that the “rebbe is alive” and that “he can’t make mistakes” and that he’s everywhere” and that “he runs the world” and other such a”z teachings. And you know as well as everybody else that these “rabbis” mean it absolutely literally.

Qwerty, unbelievable that a “rabbi” can talk like that about Moshe Rabbeinu! They are not practicing Yiddishkeit but their own invented religion; they are seeing their Rebbe through the lens of their religion.

Menachem Shmei, that’s why I don’t ask Lubavitche whether they worship their rebbe, because like you are doing, they all deny it. This is one of the reasons why I don’t have a clear view of the percentage of Lubavitche believe in the ideology that the Rebbe is alive and that he runs the world, because they all deny that they engage in idol worship.

The reason I say what I say about Lubavitch and I’m standing behind what I say is because I watch videos and read articles by Lubavitche “rabbis” for Lubavitche Chassidim. That’s how I know what they truly believe in.

Praying to a your human being rebbe, praying to his chair, praying to him in his synagogue 770, praying to him in his ohel, praying to him on the North Pole and down under in Austrlia, praying for him wherever you are because you believe he is all over and that he runs the world is IDOL WORSHIP.

Yankel berel, it is encouraging to see an haskama from Rabbi Feldman for Dr Berger’s book.

I think that most rabbonim do not know that there are Lubavitche that are engaged in idol worship. They just know that some Lubavitchers believe their rebbe is alive, but they have no clue that they worship him like an idol. Also, because it’s so bizarre to believe that a person who died is physically alive they believe it’s only a fringe group of Lubavitche that believe in that.

The real rabbonim I know do not watch Chabad youtube channels nor do read Chabad articles online. The modern “rabbis” who “love everyone” regardless of what they do and believe in, don’t care.

I hope rabbonim become aware of what is going on. I’d like to think they would care enough about kavod shamayim to protest the avodah zura that is going on.

Yankel berel, you are so right. I used to argue with Christians when they tried to “quote” Tanach. Believing in human as a divinity is ridiculous, kol shekein trying to “prove” Christianity from Tanach that teaches us that belief in anyone other than our One True God is idolatry, and that God is not physical. So when Christians supposedly “quote” verses from Tanach to “prove that their religion is the truth” it is laughable. However, since I’m not Tovia Singer who knows pesukim from Tanach by heart, I always had to look up and to research the “verses” these Christians were “quoting” when arguing with them. Sometimes the verse they claimed was in Tanach was totally not there, sometimes it was mistranslated and sometimes they took the verse completely out of context. Every time I’d argue back and forth with a Christian they ALWAYS gave up in the end but till then they’d “quote” many “verses” and even though they mostly stopped responding to me in when I kept on proving them wrong, I do not believe I changed anyone’s mind because they are brainwashed from birth. To believe in a “trinity of 3 persons” as Catholics do that supposedly created and run the world you have to be pretty stupid. To believe that a divine “father” who is their god but needs help from an earthly son who supposedly has divine powers and became their 3rd god but who is killed by humans is stupid. And the poor “holy spirit” who is there as an afterthought and barely mentioned… But still, most of them wouldn’t change their mind but they’d “quote” more verses… So after awhile I stopped arguing with them and just wrote that Jews say every day the verse in the Torah, in Deuteronomy chapter 6, “hear Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is One”. According to Tanach, belief in a human being as a god is idol worship. Belief in gods other than the One Creator of the universe is paganism. That’s all I write because I won’t waste my time with brainwashed people. And they have nothing to answer me.

The same is with a Lubavitche who believes the Rebbe is physically alive and who runs the world. They are so brainwashed, they believe in something so bizarre that it’s a waste of time to argue with them. The Rebbe died, there was a lavayah, the rebbe was buried, there is a ohel they daven in, there is no physical Rebbe around anymore, and yet the STILL believe the Rebbe is PHYSICALLY alive! Can there be something more stupid than this? Apparently yes, because they also believe their (dead) Rebbe runs the world! Sometimes I will respond to Lubavitche when they say things like “Moshe Rabbeinu also ran the world” …but when they start “quoting” Gemorahs and Rashis I don’t bother because they are simply taking things out of context or openly making things up. Then I say, “shma Yisroel Hashem Elokienu Hashem Echaddddd!”

I find that the insinuation that Hashem “changed His mind” to “demonstrate” how the Rebbe could’ve changed his mind to be absolutely revolting. Hashem revealed the Torah when he had a people to give to, when it was the right time in the creation for a nation to accept the Torah, He does not change His mind, the conditions change! Same as with anything else in the Torah where it may appear to humans that “Hashem changed His mind”; the conditions changed, not Hashem’s mind! The speaker could’ve used the argument that the conditions changed and therefore the Rebbe’s opinion changed regarding “yechi”, but he did not do so. Instead they are so used to deifying the Rebbe that they resort to actual kefira to try to in their mind “minimize” Hashem’s power and greatness so that they can “compare” their Rebbe’s actions to Hashem! Total idolatry!

Dear Chabad, I’d like to request a physical visit to your physically alive Rebbe that is here with us physically on Earth.

How can a Yid say the Rebbe runs the world and Yidden answering “amen” to that?

That is idol worship. I’m wondering how many in Lubavitch have the same ideology.

Never heard of that song. 75% of Jewish songs today, whether it is the lyrics or the tune or both, are inspired by the goyishe world. But what about the so-called Jewish publications pushing ridiculous ideas for example, play therapy for adults.? It’s simply ridiculous how immersed and enmeshed some are in the secular culture and not realizing it.

Whenever someone speaks out against people doing aveiros they are immediately bombarded with “it’s sinus chinum” . No, that is not sinas chinum. Sinas chinum is leftist Jews speaking on social media and mainstream media against Jews defending themselves, sinas chinum is Neturei Karta consorting with our enemies.

Frum schools these days place too much emphasis on learning irrelevant secular subjects and learning is basically memorization instead of actually teaching important subject to internalize the message. However, it is important to remember that we all have bechira and no amount not of proper chinuch can make a person do the right thing because it’s a choice. No one can blame their personal choices on parents or educators or education.

And that is one of the reasons why I am not a fan of the “Zionist” government. They do not have laws for the death penalty, or even minimum long-term prison sentence guidelines for terrorist, and the “justice” system generally treats Jewish prisoners much worse than these Arab terrorist.

The government sends soldiers on these non-stop dangerous missions to capture terrorists which are then released a few years in jail! Is there a winder why they don’t keep on repeating their terrorist activities once they are out of jail?

The Europeans have a long history of anti-Semitism. Couple that with liberalism and you get nothing but Jew hatred and sympathy for the fake Palestinians.

It is a terrible injustice that the barbaric terrorists got lenient sentences. How can the Israeli judge care more for terrorists than an innocent girl? Reshuim.

jackk, the prime minister also blamed it on the Russians. We don’t know exactly why the missile was landed in Poland, these missiles are highly accurate so it seems unlikely it was a mistake, perhaps it was but that cant be said as a fact. But the problem is that Zelensky blamed the Russians right away and is still blaming them despite the fact that the missile was proven to be a Ukrainian missile. That makes people very skeptical of him of his honesty.