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Ubiquitin, ok here I go again after I said that I won’t bother answering again…
Excuse me, did I ask you to bring citations on whatever you wrote? No, I did not and I am not going to do so for you. Look up the info yourself, it’s easy today, it’s all online.
There is absolutely an ongoing debate in science which came first DNA or RNA. If you are just not familiar with that that doesn’t mean I’m making things up. And search for the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology yourself and don’t lie about me making things up about DNA making RNA. It is you trying to wiggle out of what you said by asking me to bring citations. And you absolutely said said that after mRNA is produced it does not enter the nucleus and that is false because many types of mRNA sure do reenter the nucleus. And I’m not going to go through everything again but please stop being hypocritical for telling me not to make things up when it is you who are doing so.
ujm, thanks for bringing up the fact that regions, towns and villages came under different ruling states while the people stayed the same! While I was arguing about Belarus, I had forgotten that the same happened all over Europe.
There are other Russian Jews besides for Lubavitche and Skvere, there’s Karlin-Stolin, non-Chassidish Russian Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardi Russian Jews, the Mountain Jews, Bulgarian Jews and Georgian Jews.
Current states and borders does not mean that Jews coming from the region where the states changed does not mean they aren’t anymore Russian or Hungarian or other groups of Jew and their descendents for Jews are influenced by the surrounding ethnic culture that was there for centuries and in some cases over a millenium, and these vultures still continues to exist (to some extent at least) despite decades under new rule. Some of these states changed control of government numerous times, again, and it’s the surrounding majority of the race of the people, the language, the food, the centuries of cultures that influenced the Jews as well as the minhugim they themselves adopted over during the centuries living in a particular region that makes them the Jews they are. Current politics does not change that.
Bobova and Sanze Chassidim are still (very much) Galicians despite that today it’s part of Poland and before that part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.
Munkaze are still Hungarian despite the town now being part of Ukraine.
Etc, etc.
In case someone will pounce on my previous post and point out that J&J/Janssen does not use actual aborted fetal cells only lab created ones called replication-defective DNA, I want to point out that I that already and I know it according to the company the vaccine “cannot” replicate or become part of a person’s body…
There are different Covid-19 vaccines, not all of them contain mRNA. The J&J covid-19 shot contain actual human DNA that is transcribed into mRNA…There’s also the vector vaccine and the protein subunit vaccine that already contain the S protein.
Yeserbius, And even what I agreed with 100% was written within a larger context regarding support of the vaccine. You chose to take that one sentence and highlight it as if that was the only thing written in his/her long post which was not the case.
Always ask, I am not sure what we are arguing about. Are you trying to say that there was no such a thing as Russian Jews?
Kindly point me to where I’ve said Moscow was around 1500 years ago. I said no such thing.
The official state, Rus started in the year 863 on what is today part of Russian proper. However, Jews lived in the Slavic populated region of what would officially become Russia since 1500 years ago. Rus was only partly on what is now Ukraine.
Forcing Jews to the Pale was only for approximately 150 years while the history of Russian Jews started centuries earlier and is still ongoing. The Pale was in any case in the WEST OF RUSSIAN EMPIRE on Russia proper and partly also included land what is TODAY states not considered part of Russia.
Lubavitch was established in the 18th century in what is today Liozna, Belarus which was at the time of Lubavitche’s founding part of the Russian Empire. Belarus was controlled by various states over the years before, including the original Russian Rus, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and other states, but the Russians Empire regained control over Belarus over 200 years ago. Eventually the state gained its independance from the Soviet Union after it’s dissolution. Lubavitche are considered to be Russian Jews.
Yesiurbus, I said I won’t respond anymore but I can’t resist. I am allowed to agree with someone regarding what they said on a different aspect of this topic. That still doesn’t mean I said that people shouldn’t listen to their doctors or Rabbis! I said it’s the an individual’s choice either way, whether they listen or not! I never, ever told, advised, or wrote that people should not to listen to their doctors or Rabbis. YOU are conflating two seperate things into one and saying an outright lie (and other lies) about me.
And let’s not make it seem that ALL Rabbis and doctors are supporting getting the shot. I personally have never heard any Rabbi coming out in support of this shot. The Rabbis I know are not saying to take it or not to, they are neutral on the subject. I have also heard Rabbis coming out sharply against taking the vaccine. I am sure there are Rabbis who support the taking of the vaccine; I personally only read here on TYW about one Rabbi saying the vaccine should be taken.
And there are doctors and virologists supporting the vaccine as well as those who are against it. I have heard speaches by doctors and virologists coming out against it. MSM and social media always try to silence the dissident voices of those not toeing the official line, however these doctors are out there.
Yserbius123, I will not read through every one of my posts but I can 100% say that I did not write it the way you said I did. You are being completely dishonest. I would never tell anyone not to take their doctors or Rabbis at their word, I have said that everyone can choose what to do regarding their health, it is their CHOICE to follow what their doctors or Rabbis say regarding their health. I would never say people shouldn’t listen to their Rabbis or doctors.
I don’t know what you are talking about 90% rate of people without serious health concern? What? I don’t know what you are trying to say here. Neither do I follow the rest of your logic.
Anyway, I’m done arguing here. I will not respond anymore even if you skew my words and imply that I wrote things that I never did.
ubiquitin, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you skewing my words. This is my last response even if you will twist whatever I say.
Now I see that you are familiar with the subject but you don’t have the last word in this field. The fact is that there is a debate in the scientific world what comes first in this cycle of DNA splitting and RNA production and it is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that DNA makes RNA. In fact, THE CENTRAL DOGMA OF MOLECULAR BIOLOGY STATES THAT DNA MAKES RNA, AND RNA MAKES PROTEIN. You are oversimplifying the process but I’m not going to argue further to try to prove my point regarding this topic. Whoever wants can do research on this topic, it is certainly not a topic I am interested in arguaing back about as such an argument would go on practically forever.
You are totally wrong about natural mRNAs not entering the nucleus (I’m not talking here about the covid-19 shot mRNA’s). (You really should familiarize yourself more before stating things as a fact particularly if you are going to argue about it in such a serious manner.) Transcription of genes and the processing of various RNAs occurs in the nucleus, whereas translation of proteins exclusively takes place on the ribosomes in the cytoplasm. Due to this physical separation, messenger RNAs (mRNAs) must be EXPORTED to the cytoplasm where they direct protein synthesis, whereas proteins participate in the nuclear activities are imported into the nucleus. In addition, SOME TYPES OF RNAs REENTER to the nucleus after being exported to the cytoplasm… So yes, I’m ALLOWED to be a skeptical whether this synthetic drug will not enter into the nucleus.
And now to the last point I want to make; every aspect of the cell is controlled by the nucleus, that is a fact regardless if if you skirt around or ignore the issue. I never said that the covid-19 shot can modify the nucleus or DNA, (maybe it could, maybe it can’t, it is too early to tell). I said that it MODIFIES the natural RESPONSE of the nucleus and maybe the DNA ( that also still remains to be seen). Now the official line is that the shot modifies the reaction of the cell causing it to prodcuce certain proteins, however the brain of the cell is the nucleus, the mRNA simply cannot produce anything on it’s own so it surely does affect the nucleus.
I only skimmed through your post, I did not read every line and perhaps I missed something but I will not argue point by point, I’m just done with arguing about this subject. Now I may have made some grammatical mistakes or perhaps wrote a line in error as I often post from my phone and it’s hard to proofread before I press the submit button. But overall, I stand by what I say.
You really feel like peoples’ lives are your your hands by providing them with the “real info” so let me give you some advice that you should chill. Hashem is in control, again people’s lives are only in His control. Life is not in your hands regardless what you and I write on this thread.
They were banished to the Pale of Settlement for only 120 years but they lived in Russia for over 1,500 years! 120 years does not wipe out 1380 years of Jewish Russian history and in any case, the Pale of the settlement included proper Russian territory which was in the western part of Russia. There are Russian Jews and they are not Lithuanian Jews or Ukranian Jews, they are Russian Jews. Jews who immigrated from Russia before or after the Holocaust or after the Holocaust were considered Russian Jews and their frum descendents follow their minhugim. There were many different Russian kehillos. I am assuming Russian immigrants who stayed frum in their new lands either assimilated into the Yeshivishe world but the Lubavitche and Skvere ( although very many married Hungarian Jews) retained all their minhugim.
Avi K, that was very informative, thanks!
ujm, also after WW2 Hungary lost more land to Ukraine as well. I have met an ethnic Hungarian who speaks exclusively Hungarian ( and English) and she calls herself Hungarian even though the Hungarian region she lives in is now under Ukrainian rule. There were the Jewish communities in Hungary like Hojdunanash which is part of that region that is now under Ukrainian rule but the Jews who lived that region until the Holocaust, and their descendents, are still considered “Hungarian” Jews since the region was part of Hungary for 1,000 years until Ukranian takeover and so the Jews living there were part of the Jewish Hungarian culture.
Yeserbius123, I never said, or even implied, that Rabbis and doctors being so gullible that they can be tricked into something so dangerous, that is what you yourself decided. I said that to believe in what Rabbis and doctors say (regarding health and medical issues) without independent thinking is also independent thinking by individuals who choose to unwaveringly believe in whatever Rabbis and doctors say is the right thing to do. In other words, it is an individual’s choice whom and what they want to believe in.
As for 99% dying of the virus, after the initial pandemic which caused so many people to die because we were never exposed before to this particular virus, the death rate now is similar to the flu. The exact number of covid-19 fatality rates is inflated and the fatality rate and the rate of serious medical conditions resulting from the covid shot will never be known. Read the last paragraph of my previous post as to why that is the case.
yubiquitin, you are correct that the covid-19 shot affecting the cells’ RNA is not undisputed, I shouldn’t have written that. In fact, it is more plausible that the DNA’s, not the RNA’s, reaction is modified by the shot. But again, that also is not something most people agree with at this point. The truth remains to be seen. Also I said the shot affects all the body’s cells, but I shouldn’t have written that as well as for now it is not a certainty with a study showing that the spike proteins remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site (which I find hard to believe, I think that study is tainted) and another study finding the protein spike in the shot in the bloodstream of shot recipients.
But in any case, the bottom line remains that while the covid-19 vaccine may not enter the nucleus of a cell, which is what the proponents of this vaccine are using to prove that it doesn’t affect the cell’s DNA, the shot actually forces the cell to produce the spike protein and since the cell’s functions are controlled by the nucleus it is simply impossible that it doesn’t affect at least the response of the nucleus of the cell. The MSM, CDC, Google, etc. are only putting forth info that the mRNA “forces” the “cell” to produce spike proteins and they remain mum on how that process actually works within the cell. And since we all know that RNA can only produce proteins through the DNA’s transmission process, we can reasonably assume that the mRNA needs the DNA as well to produce the spike protein. We know for sure that the mRNA cannot not produce the spike protein on it’s own, there is a process within the cell that that causes the mRNA to trigger the cell to produce the protein and since, again, every cell is controlled by the nucleus, the process of the mRNA forcing the cell to produce the proteins MSUT involve the nucleus despite the fact (?… according to official channels) that it doesn’t enter it. That the vaccine not affecting the DNA is utter non-sense as the cell’s function is controlled by the nucleus and the RNAs and proteins in cells work are a result of the DNA’s process of transmission so one must be missing some grey cells to think the mRNAs can simply force the cell to produce spike proteins without the involvement of the DNA and nucleus. The mainstream explanation of how the shot works is that it supposed to “teach” your “cell” how to see the virus and it makes the cell produce spike proteins. But again, notice there is no mention of exactly HOW this process happens. While the mRNA won’t change the makeup up the DNA, it certainly affects its response to it, and the long term implications are not known yet, although in the short term we have seen many healthy individuals death after getting the covid-19 shot as well as people developing myocarditis and pericarditis.
So people are saying that 99% of indiviuals not recovering from covid-19 is a large number but what about the fatalities of people taking this shot? I doubt the data will ever honestly be known because while covid-19 was hyped by every person who died being tested for the virus and very often their death being registered and counted as a result of the virus while in reality it may have been different conditions resulting in the death, in the case of people dying after taking the shot, a plethora of reasons why the person died will explain the death and it is not counted as the official cause of death. So the actual numbers of the death and also other serious illnesses from the shot will not be known as there are no controlled studies as is the case with all other medication and vaccines years before hitting the market. The fatalities and long term complications from the shot may never be truly known so we cannot say that the deaths by this shot are less than from those who get infected by covid-19.
ubiquitin, one AMA survey is not something that is automatically a given fact.
Here’s an excerpt from the book, “From DNA to RNA-Molecular Biology of the Cell”; “DNA transcription produces a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one strand of DNA. … Thus, the RNA molecules produced by transcription are released from the DNA template as single strands.” RNA MOLECULES PRODUCED BY TRANSCRIPTION ARE RELEASED FROM THE DNA TEMPLATE. You can look at it from many angles, but the bottom line is that DNA gives birth to the process of producing RNA. You could also say that RNA is transcribed from a DNA copy, but that is indeed semantics and at the end of the day both ways of looking at it are correct. This is the chicken and the egg causality dilemma of which came first, the chicken or the egg. In any case, regardless, it is not the DNA that actually makes RNA or as you look at it as the transcription process not beginning with the DNA, but in reality no cell actually makes anything on its own, Hashem makes everything work in beautiful sequence and what comes first or second is irrelevant. However again, whichever way you look at it, it is correct to say that DNA produces RNA (through the transcription process).
Regarding the body’s natural RNAs response not being modified by the covid-19 shot, you may indeed be right, or not…it is too early to tell just as we can’t tell if the shot affects the DNA and RNA or not. The fact is that the covid-19 shots mRNAs are affecting a response from every single cell in the body (unlike regular vaccinations where small doses of the injected virus just affects the immune system, in this case, it is each individual cell in the the body being affected). So magically the shots’ mRNAs are supposedly not designed to enter the cells’ nuclei. However the body’s natural RNA can only work together with DNA and now all of a sudden these mRNA can affect the cell’s response without the DNA or nucleus being involved at all when the nucleus actually controls the cell! That is magic! How can messenger RNAs affect a cell without help from the nucleus which controls ALL functions of the cell? This is highly improbable to me. Now for most people the covid-19 shots are not fatal nor cause severe medical issues, however the vaccine lasts between 6 months to a year and I cannot believe that repeatedly taking the shot will not have severe repercussions. This is playing with fire for a virus that has a 99% recovery rate.It is simply unbelievable.
I don’t want anyone to misread my last post with the emoji. Maybe I’m misreading it myself the wink looks like I’m joking about Russian Jews, but I’m absolutely not. Anyway, I should’ve made a smiley 🙂
health, you were right! Here we go just days after this government formed: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1983960/govt-faces-1st-crisis-as-raam-meretz-refuse-to-back-vital-security-bill.html
The Pale of Settlement was the entire western part of the Russian Empire which includes proper Russian territory as well. And Jews lived in Moscow continuously since the 17th century and were never banished form the city. The point I’m trying to make is that Russian Jews were proper Russian Jews 😉
Avi K, that is very interesting. I always thought the Yemenite Jews were a homogeneous group with the same culture and language but perhaps that is not the reality at all.
That is crazy, to get such late night phone calls.
I don’t even pick up my home phone anymore, as most of the calls are robo calls.
I also got calls AND texts urging me to go vote in NYC elections when I don’t even live in NYC. Someone from a particular moisdes put me on the because the text said it’s coming from a particular moisdes. I find this an invasion of privacy and totally not mensclich. I don’t want to be on anyone’s list.
Always ask, I appreciate your analysis, but I don’t agree with your conclusion. And that is the American way, we each have the ability to analyze and draw our own conclusions. However, don’t forget who pushes out the “data” about the vaccine, the sources are generally the MSM and Dr. Fauxi ( and the shots manufacturers) and they are least concerned with the actual facts as they tried denying that the virus came from a lab which is now almost a certainty.
The bottom line for me is that it does not make sense to take a shot for a virus that has a 99% chance of recovery. On top of that many people have developed serious side affects and since this has not been tested under controlled studies and is not long enough on the market to come to definite conclusions, we cannot snbe certain of the percentage of fatalities or serious medical conditions affecting people who took the shot.
The world is made up of individuals who have their own opinions and arrive at their own conclusions, even those who are very trusting in their leaders and doctors, it is their decision to believe in them and to unwaveringly trust in them, it doesn’t mean that the entire world’s population will arrive to the same conclusion. Burach Hashem that in the US we still have, for now, some freedom to choose what we feel is right and everyone should do what they do what they feel is right for them.
ubiquitin, where is the source and where is the proof that 96% percent of doctors took the test? From CNN or the NYT perhaps?
DNA 100% produces RNA. The shot 100% modifies the RNA response. Absolutely no one disputes this (unless one has no knowledge of how the shot works) even those who support the shot. It’s on many of covid-19 shots manufacturers websites. The only point of contention is if the DNA response itself gets modified or only the RNAs response is modified. There are many professionals in the field who say that the DNA’s response gets modified because of the modified RNA response or that there is no sufficient testing that disproves. The pro-covid-19 shots crowd says the DNA does not get affected, but nobody disputes that this shot modifies the RNAs response, that is how the shot works.
Lubavitche and Sqvare are considered to be Russian and there many other Russian Jews. They were perhaps prohibited from certain cities, perhaps St. Petersburg and the like ( I’m not sure, I didn’t look it up, I’m taking a wild guess here because you say Jews were not allowed in Russia), but certainly Jews were not expelled from the the whole of Russia.In fact, the Russian progroms were pretty notorious and caused thousands of Jews from Russia to escape to the US in the late 19th and early 20th century. Also, there were the Cantonists, there were Jewish Russian Communists… there was continued Jewish presence in over Russia for centuries.
You are partially right about Moldova. I made a mistake regarding I thought they speak Russian but they speak Moldovian ( or Romanian) and Russian and Ukrainian in different regions in Moldova. I thought they are exclusively Slavic but they not. However Moldova was part of the Russian Empire and I believe the many regions were the Jews lived in Moldova were dominated by the Slavic population and culture. If you do research you see there’s a lot of Russian influence in the records of names, organizations, etc. of Jewish communities. And so I am not saying for sure that I’m right, but I do believe Moldovian Jews had directs at least similar, if not identical, to Russian and Ukrainian Jews.
So being Romanian and close to Hungary it makes sense that they said ooh for the kumets, but for sure they pronounced the tzeirie as ay, not I, and the chirik as uh, not ee, like the Hungarians and Galicians do. Perhaps they were influenced by their Jewish brothers in Russia being close to them geographically as well.
Always ask, you do realize that “controlled studies” of medication takes years before it is allowed on the market while these so-called uncontrolled “studies” (they are certainly NOT controlled studies- the average Joe is the studied specimen) are merely months old and politically motivated.
And why do you think you can decide who and how people can come to conclusions on what they feel is appropriate, or inappropriate, medical intervention (which is what the covid-19 shot is) even before they need any intervention? 🤔 People, including scientists and doctors followed lying Fauxi blindly, while other people, doctors and scientists were against Fauxi, whether it was about pandemic rules, the source of the virus or the covid-19 shot. Why do you think one side is more knowledgeable than the other side, and particularly why is the “official” government pandered info believed when it has been shown numerous times in the end to be politically motivated either for money or power, oftentimes it takes months and years for the truth to come out and oftentimes the truth is suppressed?
ubiquitin, No, I did ask any doctor about giving my children shots ( or getting one myself) Do you think doctors are God that they know everything?! I once diagnosed a dangerous condition myself because the doctor I went to was insistent that it’s nothing. I changed doctors and insisted I get an MRI and sure enough, I’m not going into details, but I needed surgery to correct the issue. And that is just one case where I used my God-given brain. There were other instances where I used my intuition and it worked out well b”H. Doctors do not know EVERYTHING and people are naive if they believe that.
I absolutely do not believe that 96% percent of doctors took the shot ( it is NOT a vaccine). There are many renowned doctors worldwide speaking out against this shot.
Now, as I said to bk613, what part of what I said regarding DNA producing RNA, which the covid-19 shot modifies it’s response so that the shot affects and modifies the DNA’s natural response is not correct?
You people remind me of when I argue with atheists that matter cannot come into existence on its own so then how could matter have created itself out of nothingness? So they bring up one study after the next, one theory after the next, all in impressive scientific jargon, but nothing can change the simple SCIENTIFIC reality that matter cannot come into existence on its own out of nothingness. Same here, you can go deep into biology and studies but nothing can change reality which is really very simple.
RebYidd23, what makes you think that a child needs their face painted red?
Health, Leiberman and Bennett will want to gain some brownie points from their supporters so I will be surprised if they cave in on the security issue. You see that even with the Arab party in the government, they did not give in to the Hamas and liberals and let the Israelis have their Flag Parade… Maybe I am wrong and they will give in eventually to some new “peace” des, but as of now I am assuming that they wont.
I do think the “right-wingers” in the government don’t care enough to stand up for Torah values, they care more that the government shouldn’t collapse so they will cave in easily to the with regards to religious issues.
I meant Galicia or Galician. I don’t know why it’s coming up as Galican, maybe I can blame spell check here…
bk613, maybe my previous response to you post is not showing up due to its tone, maybe it will show up, but I am repeating my request here. Please explain in fancy terminology that will blow everyone’s mind away, how the fact that “DNA produces RNA so the vaccine is affecting and modifying the DNA’s natural response” is untrue because it is written without fancy and technical scientific jargon. Thank you in advance.
Always ask, you realize what the statistics are? Covid-19 has a 99% survival rate while we are getting no numbers on the supposed “vaccinations”. Furthermore, doctors and healthcare professionals have different opinions. Anyway, to each his own. People are followers or independent thinkers. There are pros and cons to each group and repercussions according to each individual. I choose to be independent rather than follow the herd.
coffee addict, thanks for the lead
Always ask, The dialect of the Jews from many Slavic speaking countries like Ukraine, Moldova, Russia and was different from other primarily Slavic speaking countries like Galican, Poland and Lithuania, of which the dialects were also different from each other. I don’t remember the pronunciation of the kumets as in the word ברא with the Russian dialect, perhaps they pronounce the kumets with the “ooh” sound like Galicians (and Hungarians) like I believe you meant to write that the person from USSR pronounced the word buru, did you mean like booroo? I can’t remember, how Lubavitche pronounce the kametz, that would be the Russian dialect. The difference that I know for sure though is that in the Russian Hebrew/Yiddish dialect tzeirie is pronounced as ay like in “they” while in the Galican (and Hungarian) dialect it is pronounced like a fast “I”. Also the chirik in Galician dialect is ee while in the Russian dialect it’s oo. The Galician LH/Yiddish dialect is the same as the LH/Yiddish Hungarian dialect and different from the Russian/Ukrainian/Moldovian dialect.
Avi K, of course Yemenites can speak Persian, the question is if they are indeed speaking or spoke that language. Persian is not Arabic at all and is completely different. No one speaking Arabic would say they are speaking Persian and vice versa. Perhaps the people who told me they were speaking Persian between themselves were wary of saying they were speaking Arabic. I’m not saying Wikipedia is the authority in everything and everyone but someone who is familiar with the subject wrote on the page of Jewish Yemenites that they speak Judeo-Yemeni Arabic and Arabic is different than Persian and if there are any similarities at all between the two languages, certainly the Judeo version of Arabic is an even greater difference from the Persian language.
The descendents of Mizrachi Jews in Israel have indeed mostly adopted the Israeli accent which is Sephardi. And that’s why I was confused where this accent is from. After you told me that Persian Jews pronounce the “hes” I’ve done more research which and learnt that many older Mizrachis in Israel and some Israeli singer retained the “hes” but most of the rest of Mizrachi dropped the Mizrachi Jewish dialect and are speaking with the Israeli Hebrew dialect. That’s why I was confused where that dialect is from since some Mizrachis still spoke with that accent and some didn’t.
Ashkenazim have a soft and hard ת.
Regarding some communities pronouncing the “ד” with the “th” sound, I have read an article where a Yemenite said that their pronunciation of the LH letters were the original pronunciations and he gave an example that according to halacha the letter “ד” from the word “אחד” in Krias Shma needs to be drawn out but that is only possible if it is pronounced with the “the” sound. ( I tried it but it’s hard for me to do, firstly because Ashkenazim were taught to draw out the ח and secondly the “the” sound is not easy to stretch out but still doable as opposed to the hard “d” sound)
YO, how about the secular and politics don’t mix? It is they who have made a mockery out of Yiddishkeit in Israel and desperately want to harm whatever remnants of protection of Yiddishkeit the Zionist government still harbors. The secular are to be mocked for wanting to hold on to governing in the Land of Israel of which they have no rights to if not for our connection through the Torah which they seem to destroy.
The bottom line is that we are are giving covid-19 shots ( they are technically not vaccines) for a viris with a 99% survival rate which is absolutely ridiculous! This shot is still experimental and does not incur any liability. Many side effects are being reported by the media, but the most critical affects we don’t know about are the long term affects of this shot that injects a person with DNA that alters their DNA response.
Yserbius, DNA produces RNA so the vaccine is affecting and modifying the DNA’s natural response.
Always ask, and here I thought you were a Mizrachi…Are your ancestors from Lithuania? Very few Lithuania Jews survived the Holocaust.
If you are telling a story about a Jew from the USSR then the Galican dialect is not relevent. The Russian and Galician dialect are different. And where do the Hungarians come into the picture. You are all over the place.
Two Yemenites told me they speak Persian but Google says Yemenite Jews spoke Judeo-Yemeni Arabic, a distinct version of Arabic, so I don’t know what they really speak between each other…but anyway, doing some research, it seems as if the Yemenites also pronounce the ches as hes. I guess Mizrachim, not Sephardim say/said hes.
Anyway, getting back to the topic of Yiddish, it’s definitely not going away and English is not taking over Yiddish at all. Everyday spoken Hebrew is very successful these days as a Jewish language. English is only only a first language for America and Candian with the exception of most Chassidishe.
Thanks for the info. So I am deducing from your info that currently Jews originating from Persian communities, Iran and Iraq pronounce the ח with an “h” sound. Some Sephardim I asked said that it’s the Yemenites who use the “h” sound but perhaps I am mistaken, I believe I’ve heard Yemenites say the “ch” sound. However Yemenites do speak Persian so maybe I misheard and they do pronounce the ח with the “h” sound.
coffee addict, you are right, I haven’t met rebyidd23. But that doesn’t answer my question why a kid would want their face painted red?! 🤔 Or why a parent would want to paint their child’s face red?! 🤨
I’m worried about the harmful Reform and civil laws that may be passed during this current government. I am also worried about the hundreds of thousands of non-Jews that are integrating with Jewish Israelis. Regarding security, I am not so think that this supposedly liberal government will be less reliable than Netanyahu who always immaturely stopped campaigns to route out Hamas which gave them time to become deadlier and more dangerous over the years. I may read them wrong, but IMO leiberman and Bennett will not let Hamas off the hook as easily as Netanyahu did.
As for how long this government will last, I think that they may shlep as long as Netanyahu is head of the Likud. I think it’s crazy that Netanyahu feels that the position of the prime minister of Israel belongs to him forever. It’s time for him to step down or be replaced.
Great Rabbis played chess and they had no problem with the chess pieces but I promise you they would never look at video games and they’d be extremely angry that there are frum Jews looking at improper images that most computer games have today.
As for chess being addictive, it is far, far less addictive, if addictive at all, than computer games. One can walk away from a board game much more easily than from a video game.
I’m not saying you can’t ever play with computer games, if the game doesn’t have immodest characters then 45 minutes of unwinding by playing a computer game is ok, but more often than not the games today are completely immoral in character, not with a person knocking down a boardpeice, but with the killing of 3-d lifelike characters and lifelike immodest characters as part of the game, and a player most often does not stop after 45 minutes
of playing immersive games.kollelman, you are 100% right.
Avi k, some Sephardi/Mizrachi Jews pronounce the ח with an “h” sound instead of the “ch” sound and I would like to know which communities/community this pronunciation/dialect originates from.
Why would a child want their face painted red? Please enlighten me.
Chess is not addictive nor filled with immoral imagery.
Always ask questions, what a sad story. The loshen Hakodesh language is our heritage far greater than Yiddish.
On another topic, I see that you don’t pronounce the ח as most Sephardish and Ashkenazim do, as we pronounce it letter chet or ches.
I am assuming you are an Eidas Hamizrach or Sephardi or perhaps Yemenite. Can I ask where you and your family originate from? I have never had a proper explanation where the Hebrew “hes” dialogue comes from.
Always ask, I do have to say that Yeshivishe school has very fine, erliche girls. I didn’t bring up the story to criticize them, I just mentioned it because I was puzzled that they left it out but it proved to me that Yiddish is a language to be reckoned with as Chassidishe can say they have their distinct Jewish loshen.
Chareidy levush today did not originate from the time of the giving of the Torah…the styles first showed up by the non-Jews and was tweaked and adopted by Jews. That makes it Jewish, it doesn’t have to the fashion that the Yisraelim wore 3000 years ago. Same with the Yiddish language and foods Jews adopted from Europe or the Middle East, they become Jewish when they are adopted by a large eidah of Jews and repeatedly used for centuries, it became part of our identity. Regardless of how and from which language the Jews spoke in mitzrayim originated, if only they spoke it then it is became a Jewish language which set them apart from the Egyptians.
There are over a million Chareidy Jews with distinctive levush, Chassidishe, Yeshivishe, Sefardim, Yemenites, all who learn Torah. Regardless of the Torah learning, actually because of Torah learning, Chareidy levush sets us apart from non-Jews and reminds us that we are Ivrim and we are different. Jews should be able to be identified as Jews, that is part of being a Jew.
Jews were are Ivrim, we are apart and that is what keeps our identity strong so that we don’t assimilate. We can’t only learn the Torah, we have to live by the Torah with a Jewish lifestyle and one aspect of living a Jewish lifestyle is with Shem, loshen and malbush.