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So for all you people bashing me for talking against vthe covid-19 accinations, and for those who didn’t bash me but may be interested in hearing the real truth, listen to Tucker Carlson’s interview with Dr. Robert Malone, the INVENTOR of the mRNA vaccine who tried to speak the truth online but Google, the government of the internet communist regime, tried to silence him and YouTube took off the video that Dr. Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine put up talking about the potential risks and the fact that there’s no data available to make an informed decision.

Basically Dr. Malone is saying in the interview with Tucker Carlson exactly what I keep on saying, that everyone has a right to decide for themselves whether they want to take the vaccine or not. He says that there’s no data right now for people to make a reasonably informed decision. He says that for teens and children 18 years and below, the risks of covid-19 does not justify giving these vaccines.

Dr. Malone said he is waiting from data from different countries including from Israel regarding effects on fertility but the latest study from Israel of the covid-19 vaccine regarding fertility involved already infertile couples and I doubt the study draws any conclusions for fertile women.

The Yidden in mitzrayim were redeemed slaves, not descendents of slaves. They got payed for THEIR WORK from THEIR MASTERS, not their descendents got payed from their ancestor’s masters descendents! That is stupidity beyond. Almost every race had people who were kidnapped and sold into slavery, blacks were not unique.

Always Ask, well, many feel that you are a sheep for believing in such a stupid thing as a shot that doesn’t work when coronavirus verients keep on popping up all the time and proof is Israel not opening normally and having to shut down when 80% got the shot and the rest had covid-19. And with people getting serious illnesses from these shots you think we are interested in being bullied into taking the shot particularly when many of us had the virus already? And I don’t understand what your issue is. Those who took the shot are safe even if you do get the virus you are still safe so what is this shouting and bashing all about? You think we have chutzpah and we think you are stupid so we are even.

Participant, no, it is almost impossible to prove that the descendants of slaves masters assets are from their slave owning ancestors and in most case impossible to prove that people today are descendents of slaves. If there are the few individuals who can prove it both ways, it is only a few individuals and no more who could definitely prove it and would involve expensive investigations as well as courtcases which the average descendant of the slave would not be interested in persuing. And Proof of that that is that blacks will not have to show proof that they are descendents of slaves nor will they have to sue descendents of slaves owners, the reparations will be coming from taxes payed by US citizens (whites and blacks) the vast majority of whom had nothing to do with slavery.

Now I feel silly for apologizing because firstly I don’t think I came accross as bashing you and secondly now you say that people could prove it which contradicts what you said earlier that you never said not implied points that I bought up.

Participant, sorry, sorry, sorry! My post come across as blasting. That was totally not my intention. I thought I was simply making statements why reparations don’t apply to blacks in the USA. If you feel attacked, sorry again! I meant simply putting down the facts and I guess it came accross the wrong way. I am upset at the government out of control spending and wokenss of the government of United States and certainly not at you.

Participant, in a court of law you are required to show proof that someone owes you money and if a person is a descendent of someone who owes you money then you required to show proof that he inherited the assets of the person who owed you the money. In the Banana Republic of the USA proof will soon not a requirement to get money you claim is yours…if you’re black that is. Furthermore, it is not the US government that owned the slaves so why should the government have to pay inheritance? Furthermore, many blacks are themselves descendents of slaves owners, like Michael Obama for example so should they be required to pay themselves? And again people of mixed race, are they required to partially pay themselves? Furthermore, a vast percentage of blacks in the USA today are not descendents of slaves, they arrived as free people, as immigrants, or descendents of immigrants, from Africa, Haitia and all over the world. Furthermore, most American citizens today are not descendents of slaves owners so why should they be made to pay the “inheritance” for the descendants of slaves?

And furthermore, can you imagine if descendents of victims of the Holocaust go back to where there ancestors came from and demand those who took the ancestors belongings, assets and properties, return all of it to them? And no proof of ownership is needed despite that they were indeed stolen from the Holocaust victims? Why won’t that happen? And not only descendents from victims of the Holocaust, but can people of all races claim inheritance from the people who stole assets or enslaved their ancestors? Why are blacks the only people entitled to such “inheritance”?

Talking about reparations, Jews and Europeans were also sold into slavery during the Middle Ages so we need reparations as well. And it was the black tribal leaders in Africa who sold their own people into slavery so they should be the ones paying reparations too. The funniest part is that blacks will be paying reparations for themselves and other blacks through taxes. And what about those of mixed race? Will they be getting reparations according to the amount of black ancestry they have?

The blacks are getting reparations already. Billions of dollars is being poured into their communities and handed out to black individuals in the form of every program imaginable.

Heimishe communities are voting for this Eric Adams!

Here’s only a partial lists of his policies I have not written all the disgusting things he supports:

Abortion: Pro-choice but ban after 3 months

Supports legalization of gay marriage:
Yes

Should gay couples have the adoption right:
Yes

Should the government continue funding Planned Parenthood:
Yes

Should the government RAISE (again) the the minimum wage:
Yes

Should (racist) critical race theory be taught in classrooms?
Yes

Should taxes be increased for the rich to reduce interest rates for student loans:
Yes

Should the president of the US have the power to deploy military troops to stop protests?
No

SHOULD BUSINESSES BE ABLE TO DENY SERVICE TONA CUSTOMER IF THE REQUEST CONFLICTS WITH THE OWNER’S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS?
NO
so not only does he support more immorality he wants to force you to support immorality!

Should the government pay tuition at 4 year colleges and universities?
Yes

Should gender identity be added to anti-discrimination laws?
Yes

Should children of illegal immigrants be granted legal citizenship?
Yes

Should people under 18 recieve “gender-transition” treatments?
Yes

Should drugs be decriminalized?
Yes

There’s way more liberal and immoral, behavior he supports but I cannot rewrite the entire list here.

Hashem yarachem that we vote for such individuals. We are bringing misfortune upon ourselves and placing trust in immoral people instead of in Hashem.

I agree with you 1000%! You are totally right. I simply do not understand it either.

That is a really cute joke. I am sure there are other towns you can joke about in the same way, they changed hands so often. I think the legitimate rulers would be the ones the Jews considered themselves to be, Jewish Hungarians, Russian, Galician, etc.; that is a sure way to know who the town or region belongs too 😉

Ubiquitin, ok here I go again after I said that I won’t bother answering again…

Excuse me, did I ask you to bring citations on whatever you wrote? No, I did not and I am not going to do so for you. Look up the info yourself, it’s easy today, it’s all online.

There is absolutely an ongoing debate in science which came first DNA or RNA. If you are just not familiar with that that doesn’t mean I’m making things up. And search for the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology yourself and don’t lie about me making things up about DNA making RNA. It is you trying to wiggle out of what you said by asking me to bring citations. And you absolutely said said that after mRNA is produced it does not enter the nucleus and that is false because many types of mRNA sure do reenter the nucleus. And I’m not going to go through everything again but please stop being hypocritical for telling me not to make things up when it is you who are doing so.

There are other Russian Jews besides for Lubavitche and Skvere, there’s Karlin-Stolin, non-Chassidish Russian Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardi Russian Jews, the Mountain Jews, Bulgarian Jews and Georgian Jews.

Current states and borders does not mean that Jews coming from the region where the states changed does not mean they aren’t anymore Russian or Hungarian or other groups of Jew and their descendents for Jews are influenced by the surrounding ethnic culture that was there for centuries and in some cases over a millenium, and these vultures still continues to exist (to some extent at least) despite decades under new rule. Some of these states changed control of government numerous times, again, and it’s the surrounding majority of the race of the people, the language, the food, the centuries of cultures that influenced the Jews as well as the minhugim they themselves adopted over during the centuries living in a particular region that makes them the Jews they are. Current politics does not change that.

Bobova and Sanze Chassidim are still (very much) Galicians despite that today it’s part of Poland and before that part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.

Munkaze are still Hungarian despite the town now being part of Ukraine.

Etc, etc.

There are different Covid-19 vaccines, not all of them contain mRNA. The J&J covid-19 shot contain actual human DNA that is transcribed into mRNA…There’s also the vector vaccine and the protein subunit vaccine that already contain the S protein.

Always ask, I am not sure what we are arguing about. Are you trying to say that there was no such a thing as Russian Jews?

Kindly point me to where I’ve said Moscow was around 1500 years ago. I said no such thing.

The official state, Rus started in the year 863 on what is today part of Russian proper. However, Jews lived in the Slavic populated region of what would officially become Russia since 1500 years ago. Rus was only partly on what is now Ukraine.

Forcing Jews to the Pale was only for approximately 150 years while the history of Russian Jews started centuries earlier and is still ongoing. The Pale was in any case in the WEST OF RUSSIAN EMPIRE on Russia proper and partly also included land what is TODAY states not considered part of Russia.

Lubavitch was established in the 18th century in what is today Liozna, Belarus which was at the time of Lubavitche’s founding part of the Russian Empire. Belarus was controlled by various states over the years before, including the original Russian Rus, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and other states, but the Russians Empire regained control over Belarus over 200 years ago. Eventually the state gained its independance from the Soviet Union after it’s dissolution. Lubavitche are considered to be Russian Jews.

And let’s not make it seem that ALL Rabbis and doctors are supporting getting the shot. I personally have never heard any Rabbi coming out in support of this shot. The Rabbis I know are not saying to take it or not to, they are neutral on the subject. I have also heard Rabbis coming out sharply against taking the vaccine. I am sure there are Rabbis who support the taking of the vaccine; I personally only read here on TYW about one Rabbi saying the vaccine should be taken.

And there are doctors and virologists supporting the vaccine as well as those who are against it. I have heard speaches by doctors and virologists coming out against it. MSM and social media always try to silence the dissident voices of those not toeing the official line, however these doctors are out there.

ubiquitin, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you skewing my words. This is my last response even if you will twist whatever I say.

Now I see that you are familiar with the subject but you don’t have the last word in this field. The fact is that there is a debate in the scientific world what comes first in this cycle of DNA splitting and RNA production and it is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that DNA makes RNA. In fact, THE CENTRAL DOGMA OF MOLECULAR BIOLOGY STATES THAT DNA MAKES RNA, AND RNA MAKES PROTEIN. You are oversimplifying the process but I’m not going to argue further to try to prove my point regarding this topic. Whoever wants can do research on this topic, it is certainly not a topic I am interested in arguaing back about as such an argument would go on practically forever.

You are totally wrong about natural mRNAs not entering the nucleus (I’m not talking here about the covid-19 shot mRNA’s). (You really should familiarize yourself more before stating things as a fact particularly if you are going to argue about it in such a serious manner.) Transcription of genes and the processing of various RNAs occurs in the nucleus, whereas translation of proteins exclusively takes place on the ribosomes in the cytoplasm. Due to this physical separation, messenger RNAs (mRNAs) must be EXPORTED to the cytoplasm where they direct protein synthesis, whereas proteins participate in the nuclear activities are imported into the nucleus. In addition, SOME TYPES OF RNAs REENTER to the nucleus after being exported to the cytoplasm… So yes, I’m ALLOWED to be a skeptical whether this synthetic drug will not enter into the nucleus.

And now to the last point I want to make; every aspect of the cell is controlled by the nucleus, that is a fact regardless if if you skirt around or ignore the issue. I never said that the covid-19 shot can modify the nucleus or DNA, (maybe it could, maybe it can’t, it is too early to tell). I said that it MODIFIES the natural RESPONSE of the nucleus and maybe the DNA ( that also still remains to be seen). Now the official line is that the shot modifies the reaction of the cell causing it to prodcuce certain proteins, however the brain of the cell is the nucleus, the mRNA simply cannot produce anything on it’s own so it surely does affect the nucleus.

I only skimmed through your post, I did not read every line and perhaps I missed something but I will not argue point by point, I’m just done with arguing about this subject. Now I may have made some grammatical mistakes or perhaps wrote a line in error as I often post from my phone and it’s hard to proofread before I press the submit button. But overall, I stand by what I say.

You really feel like peoples’ lives are your your hands by providing them with the “real info” so let me give you some advice that you should chill. Hashem is in control, again people’s lives are only in His control. Life is not in your hands regardless what you and I write on this thread.

Avi K, that was very informative, thanks!

Yeserbius123, I never said, or even implied, that Rabbis and doctors being so gullible that they can be tricked into something so dangerous, that is what you yourself decided. I said that to believe in what Rabbis and doctors say (regarding health and medical issues) without independent thinking is also independent thinking by individuals who choose to unwaveringly believe in whatever Rabbis and doctors say is the right thing to do. In other words, it is an individual’s choice whom and what they want to believe in.

As for 99% dying of the virus, after the initial pandemic which caused so many people to die because we were never exposed before to this particular virus, the death rate now is similar to the flu. The exact number of covid-19 fatality rates is inflated and the fatality rate and the rate of serious medical conditions resulting from the covid shot will never be known. Read the last paragraph of my previous post as to why that is the case.

ubiquitin, one AMA survey is not something that is automatically a given fact.

Here’s an excerpt from the book, “From DNA to RNA-Molecular Biology of the Cell”; “DNA transcription produces a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one strand of DNA. … Thus, the RNA molecules produced by transcription are released from the DNA template as single strands.” RNA MOLECULES PRODUCED BY TRANSCRIPTION ARE RELEASED FROM THE DNA TEMPLATE. You can look at it from many angles, but the bottom line is that DNA gives birth to the process of producing RNA. You could also say that RNA is transcribed from a DNA copy, but that is indeed semantics and at the end of the day both ways of looking at it are correct. This is the chicken and the egg causality dilemma of which came first, the chicken or the egg. In any case, regardless, it is not the DNA that actually makes RNA or as you look at it as the transcription process not beginning with the DNA, but in reality no cell actually makes anything on its own, Hashem makes everything work in beautiful sequence and what comes first or second is irrelevant. However again, whichever way you look at it, it is correct to say that DNA produces RNA (through the transcription process).

Regarding the body’s natural RNAs response not being modified by the covid-19 shot, you may indeed be right, or not…it is too early to tell just as we can’t tell if the shot affects the DNA and RNA or not. The fact is that the covid-19 shots mRNAs are affecting a response from every single cell in the body (unlike regular vaccinations where small doses of the injected virus just affects the immune system, in this case, it is each individual cell in the the body being affected). So magically the shots’ mRNAs are supposedly not designed to enter the cells’ nuclei. However the body’s natural RNA can only work together with DNA and now all of a sudden these mRNA can affect the cell’s response without the DNA or nucleus being involved at all when the nucleus actually controls the cell! That is magic! How can messenger RNAs affect a cell without help from the nucleus which controls ALL functions of the cell? This is highly improbable to me. Now for most people the covid-19 shots are not fatal nor cause severe medical issues, however the vaccine lasts between 6 months to a year and I cannot believe that repeatedly taking the shot will not have severe repercussions. This is playing with fire for a virus that has a 99% recovery rate.It is simply unbelievable.

health, you were right! Here we go just days after this government formed: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1983960/govt-faces-1st-crisis-as-raam-meretz-refuse-to-back-vital-security-bill.html

Avi K, that is very interesting. I always thought the Yemenite Jews were a homogeneous group with the same culture and language but perhaps that is not the reality at all.

Always ask, I appreciate your analysis, but I don’t agree with your conclusion. And that is the American way, we each have the ability to analyze and draw our own conclusions. However, don’t forget who pushes out the “data” about the vaccine, the sources are generally the MSM and Dr. Fauxi ( and the shots manufacturers) and they are least concerned with the actual facts as they tried denying that the virus came from a lab which is now almost a certainty.

The bottom line for me is that it does not make sense to take a shot for a virus that has a 99% chance of recovery. On top of that many people have developed serious side affects and since this has not been tested under controlled studies and is not long enough on the market to come to definite conclusions, we cannot snbe certain of the percentage of fatalities or serious medical conditions affecting people who took the shot.

The world is made up of individuals who have their own opinions and arrive at their own conclusions, even those who are very trusting in their leaders and doctors, it is their decision to believe in them and to unwaveringly trust in them, it doesn’t mean that the entire world’s population will arrive to the same conclusion. Burach Hashem that in the US we still have, for now, some freedom to choose what we feel is right and everyone should do what they do what they feel is right for them.

Lubavitche and Sqvare are considered to be Russian and there many other Russian Jews. They were perhaps prohibited from certain cities, perhaps St. Petersburg and the like ( I’m not sure, I didn’t look it up, I’m taking a wild guess here because you say Jews were not allowed in Russia), but certainly Jews were not expelled from the the whole of Russia.In fact, the Russian progroms were pretty notorious and caused thousands of Jews from Russia to escape to the US in the late 19th and early 20th century. Also, there were the Cantonists, there were Jewish Russian Communists… there was continued Jewish presence in over Russia for centuries.

You are partially right about Moldova. I made a mistake regarding I thought they speak Russian but they speak Moldovian ( or Romanian) and Russian and Ukrainian in different regions in Moldova. I thought they are exclusively Slavic but they not. However Moldova was part of the Russian Empire and I believe the many regions were the Jews lived in Moldova were dominated by the Slavic population and culture. If you do research you see there’s a lot of Russian influence in the records of names, organizations, etc. of Jewish communities. And so I am not saying for sure that I’m right, but I do believe Moldovian Jews had directs at least similar, if not identical, to Russian and Ukrainian Jews.

So being Romanian and close to Hungary it makes sense that they said ooh for the kumets, but for sure they pronounced the tzeirie as ay, not I, and the chirik as uh, not ee, like the Hungarians and Galicians do. Perhaps they were influenced by their Jewish brothers in Russia being close to them geographically as well.

ubiquitin, No, I did ask any doctor about giving my children shots ( or getting one myself) Do you think doctors are God that they know everything?! I once diagnosed a dangerous condition myself because the doctor I went to was insistent that it’s nothing. I changed doctors and insisted I get an MRI and sure enough, I’m not going into details, but I needed surgery to correct the issue. And that is just one case where I used my God-given brain. There were other instances where I used my intuition and it worked out well b”H. Doctors do not know EVERYTHING and people are naive if they believe that.

I absolutely do not believe that 96% percent of doctors took the shot ( it is NOT a vaccine). There are many renowned doctors worldwide speaking out against this shot.

Now, as I said to bk613, what part of what I said regarding DNA producing RNA, which the covid-19 shot modifies it’s response so that the shot affects and modifies the DNA’s natural response is not correct?

You people remind me of when I argue with atheists that matter cannot come into existence on its own so then how could matter have created itself out of nothingness? So they bring up one study after the next, one theory after the next, all in impressive scientific jargon, but nothing can change the simple SCIENTIFIC reality that matter cannot come into existence on its own out of nothingness. Same here, you can go deep into biology and studies but nothing can change reality which is really very simple.

Health, Leiberman and Bennett will want to gain some brownie points from their supporters so I will be surprised if they cave in on the security issue. You see that even with the Arab party in the government, they did not give in to the Hamas and liberals and let the Israelis have their Flag Parade… Maybe I am wrong and they will give in eventually to some new “peace” des, but as of now I am assuming that they wont.

I do think the “right-wingers” in the government don’t care enough to stand up for Torah values, they care more that the government shouldn’t collapse so they will cave in easily to the with regards to religious issues.