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  • in reply to: Why can’t we TALK??? #1999854
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    Reb Eliezer, the J&J shot uses DNA which is just as bad as mRNA, and theoretically even worse because it definitely goes into the nucleus of cells. The J&J shot has caused very serious diseases for many, particularly in young adults . Again, I’ve said it a few times and I’ll repeat it here; it is true that the majority of people who got these cell-based shots did not have adverse reactions however I think that booster shots will definitely cause serious illnesses and I have already heard of very serious adverse reactions and even deaths of those who got booster shots. I don’t see the point in this. These shots’ immunity, if there is immunity at all, are extremely short-lived and breakthrough cases of those vaccinated are as high as 74% according to one study. In Israel it is currently at 53% while the unvaccinated positive cases are only at 43% , so what is the point of this? I know people say that with the “vaccinations” the cases are not so serious, it’s only one percent, however these percentages are rising and I’m sure there are many undereported cases, but in any case, the numbers of serious cases are on the rise.

    It is not a good idea to play around with one’s body. However, I believe everyone should do what they feel is the most comfortable and beneficial for them. I don’t have a problem with those believing in the shot, I have a problem with people forcing others to take the shot, whether it is the government or private employers doing the forcing, no one can be coorced into something they are against.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999852
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    Health, you didn’t answer my question why the government, msm and social media are suppressing info on medicines and zinc that help treat covid-19. Saying that “there are problems with the Federal response to covid-19” doesn’t answer why there’s censuring of this info and it being called “misinformation” when doctors and laymen talk about it. Again, by you calling it a problem you still give no answer on why they are going to these extremes to suppress vital, life-saving info.

    The numbers did not go down because of he vaccines. If it did then why are they continously climbing? You blame the Delta varient but the point is that the vaccines are not working. There have been many varients since the original covid-19 high the “market”. I highly doubt the origin varient from last January-October is still around besides for in labs. Viruses are mutating constantly and if the vaccines don’t work for the mutated varients then there’s no point in it.

    in reply to: Approach to Covid-19 #1999704
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    Reb Eliezer, our bodies are continous hosts of microbes and viruses. To eliminate these viruses is to eliminate life. We cannot eradicate the manmade covid-19 virus either. It will become extinct if and when Hashem wills it.

    The Torah commands us to be careful about our health and it doesn’t mean to muzzle our mouths indefinitely and hide in our homes- that is the goyishe liberal way of thinking they will “deal” with a problem that they can do nothing about. They try tried to flatten the curve by lockdowns and masks and the monster still escaped and is around. They are trying with these so-called “vaccines” and the virus is still spreading. They are blaming all who won’t play their game that will never stop.

    So what do we need to do to guard our health? Eat healthy, non-processed foods, including raw fruits and vegetables, do excersize ( excersize is extremely important for a healthy immune system) and maintain healthy lifestyle habits like getting enough sleep. Ultimately, life and death, health and sickness, is in the hands of Hashem.

    in reply to: Approach to Covid-19 #1999673
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    Absolutely non-sustainable. If we would test people for flu and other viruses like we do for covid-19 we would be in lockdown forever and ever. Viruses do not disappear, they spike and reced, this is part of life. The obsession the media and politicians have with covid is unbelievable and it doesn’t seem to be changing.

    B”H our frum communities in US, after the initial pandemic, disregarded authorities regarding masks and lockdowns and returned to normal life. This is how it should be done everywhere.

    in reply to: Why can’t we TALK??? #1999660
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    Calling those of us who don’t want a jab of these cell-based shots “anti-vaxxers” is very misleading and reveals how non-informed the bullies are. Traditional vaccines boost the immune system by giving the body a bit of the virus or disease to boost the immune response to these illnesses and viruses. In the vast majority of cases these vaccines work very well to prevent infection.

    Cell-based shots are technically not vaccines, they don’t boost the the immune system in the traditional way; they are supposed to “teach cells how to respond”, in this case to the covid. However, by injecting DNAs, mRNAs, or proteins and vectors, the body does not become immune to covid. First CDC said that people in hospitals and those who died of covid-19 after recieving the so-called vaccine, is only .1%. Now that rate is climbing, in some states it is now at 4%. People who were “vaccinated” are losing their immunity at a rapid pace, requiring a booster shot a mere 2-4 after recieving TWO initial shots. In some cities we are getting a 75% infection rate from breakthrough cases of people infected after recieving these so-called “vaccines”. It has been proven that those who are “vaccinated” and those who are not, carry the same viral load if infected and transfer it at the same rate. So why are people screaming at those who don’t want it if those who are “vaccinated” are spreading it just the same?! And how exactly are these covid shots the same as traditional vaccinations which in the majority of cases actually prevents people from getting infected and transferring it others when these covid shots don’t help prevention and spreading of the virus?!

    The mount of brainwashing about this so-called “vaccine” despite the fact that it doesn’t prevent virus spread, and despite accounts of death and very serious side effects attributed to these shots, and despite the fact that it is still in trial stage. The suppression of info on lifesaving drugs that treat covid-19, the forcing of people to take this so-called “vaccine” despite it’s serious side effects, and the forcing it on young adults and children is absolutely criminal.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999633
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    Health, I agree with you that Hashem sent covid-19 as a wake-up call.

    I believe if you had a good excuse why the government, MSM, and social media are suppressing info on these lifesaving drugs you’d repeat that here. I’m not going to look up an old post. Imagine if I would reference my old posts when someone asks me about something I’ve spoken about…you’d see a lot of ###.

    Why is it so easy for you to roll off your made=-up “data” despite reality being completely different?! And calling me a liar while you are totally clueless. The CDCs published an article on August 6 the CDC published an article stating that the numbers of positivity rates are increasing. All the charts are indicating cases are rising, everyone is talking about it but you denying it? Sorry, you can’t change reality by calling me a liar or “conspiracy theorist”.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999540
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    So Health, you tell me why they aren’t recommending these safe medications if they are effective and have no side effects. You tell me why the government, social media, and the MSM are pushing shots that are not lowering the covid-19 positive rates and in fact they are rising since they started injecting millions of people. Look at the charts, the rates were getting lower and lower, Israel was ready to open it’s borders and then they got this bright idea to give these experimental shots and look where it got them ..but call me a “conspiracy theorist”, it won’t change reality unfortunately.

    in reply to: My friend just died #1999523
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    I’m sorry for your loss.

    I’m keeping on talking about the side effects and deaths caused by these fake vaccines that can’t even lower the coronavirus rate so it’s basically useless. And people keep screaming at me. I don’t care.

    Thank for sharing this tragic story, it may open people’s eyes.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999440
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    Ubiquitin, well, obviously I found that info now after searching for quite awhile but knowing what I’m looking for because I had already seen it. Without seeing those articles a few weeks ago I wouldn’t search so long for something that I already knew had to be out there because I’d seen the articles about it already. Btw, I read an interesting article on the wall street journal website titled “How Google Interferes with it’s search algorithms and changes your results” published on Nov 15 2019. Google definitely hides what it doesn’t want us to see.

    I searched earlier and found articles on covid-19 spike proteins diffusing into the nucleus. I didn’t learn my lesson about Google well enough and closed the page. When I wanted to bring the article back, no matter how much I searched, all the results I get from Google are about the covid vaccine protein spikes and not one article is coming up about covid-19 protein spikes! I had to use a lot of tricks with using many different terms to finally bring the article back. Google for sure knows to hide stuff they don’t want people to see and push the things they do want people to see.

    Now with everyone focusing whether the covid shots mRNA enter the nucleus or not, this seems to be a hot topic people are researching cause there are tons of articles Google is spitting up how covid shot mRNAs don’t enter the nucleus, how about the fact that proteins enter the nucleus? So spike proteins produced by the covid shot can very well enter the nucleus but many articles claim that it doesn’t. Well, the covid-19 spike protein itself diffuses into the nucleus so I do not believe that the “vaccines” spike never enters the nucleus.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999383
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    Sorry, I made a mistake in my previous post.. Not 20% of mRNA reenter the nucleus, 20% of the human genome “Line-1” that can reverse transcibe their mRNA to DNA, can enter somewhere else in our genome, including the cell nucleus during cell division.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999333
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    ubiqutin, I was too hasty yesterday, not really reading the articles as I didn’t have the time to do so and skimmed through the articles too quickly missing the line about the mRNAs exiting into the cytoplasm. Indeed, those two articles are actually the same. Sorry about that.

    Now I see why you can’t get find the articles about mRNA transport into the nucleus as I originally did because I can’t find them all these articles either, they seem to have disappeared. Call me a conspiracist, but these articles seem to be censured by Google as I am sure I am not the only person researching this top trying to find info about mRNA transport into the nucleus due to these “vaccines”. All info on mRNA, vRNA (besides for that one article I posted about vRNA) and mRNA-proteins being transported into the nucleus have disappeared. And the reason I appear to have “predicted” extracellular transport of mRNA into the nucleus article is because I knew for a fact that mRNA transports into the nucleus as well as exports. That is a new study about extracellular tranpsot but not the fact that about 20% of the mRNA is transported back into the nucleus despite Google currently hiding these articles. This is so surreal, I can cannot believe that Google is going to this extent to hide info from the public. Now every time I search for articles on “mRNA transport into the nucleus” most of the info coming up is about the vaccine or mRNA export from the nucleus.

    However, since I knew you won’t believe me that I really read the articles about mRNA being transported into the nucleus, I did some sleuthing and finally uncovered one article. I am sure there are plenty more hiding but they must be searched well to find them and I’m at the present not inclines to do so. It is indeed a pity that I didn’t post my sources when you asked for them, there were a lot of articles talking about this topic, many containing excellent diagrams.

    Here is the article I found of mRNAs being transported into the nucleus
    degruyter .com/ document/ doi /10.1515 /bmc-2014-0018

    if that doesn’t work after you delete the spaces then it’s on degruyter .com website published in 20014. the article is titled “Regulation of Line-1 in mammals”
    It seems like you enjoy reading these comprehensive articles, but if you are not in the mood to read through the entire article, I found the paragraph under figure 1 sums my entire premise.

    There’s another interesting and revealing article on the subject of mNRA “vaccinations” published on December 2, 2020, before the vaccine rollout, but well hidden to the public, of course. It was published on sciencemag. org . The article is titled “Public needs to prep for vaccine side effects”

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1999311
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    yserbius, this discussion is a continuation from another thread discussing whether mRNA can enter the nucleus of the cell or not. The J&J shot is a worse option because the DNA in the shot actually works by producing spike proteins in the nucleus so that it’s not even an hypothetical scenario, but an actual fact, that it enters the nucleus . Not that I would consider taking any of these shots even if I would not have had covid-19, which I already did.

    Now I never claimed to be educated, in fact you don’t have to be very educated to see what’s going on in countries with high coronavirus shots rate per capita. You don’t have to be very educated to know that there are no long-term studies for these shots and to understand who are the lab rats. As I said before, there are doctors who claim that one can change genders, they may have more knowledge of biology or medicine than me, it doesn’t mean that they are right or that they even take into consideration basic biology. Many times people’s ideology can cloud out their perception of reality despite being educated. You can believe my perception of reality is wrong regarding these so-called vaccines and it doesn’t matter how educated you are, I do not see it the way you do. As of today, although our rights are becoming increasingly limited, it is still a free country and I can say what I want regarding this topic. You don’t have to read or respond to my comments if you don’t like them or disagree with them. As I said many times, I don’t hold a gun to anybody’s head forcing them to read my comments or agree with them.

    in reply to: What Are the Causes of Canon Printer Not Printing Black? #1998942
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    Depending which program you are using it may be a setting issue. If you are printing with Adobe or similar programs. The setting in the program may be be set to RYGB which causes greyish blacks. It should be set to CYMK.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998915
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    Health, I don’t remember ubequitin saying he’s a doctor, nevertheless even if he’s a doctor who doesn’t know that mRNAs can be transported into the nucleus, the scientific proven facts stay sciencific proven facts. There are doctors encouraging gender change, does that mean people can change genders? Sorry, science doesn’t change even if doctors don’t know something or have errorneous beliefs.

    I have bought many sources of natural mRNA entering the nucleus so what exactly are you arguing about? Ubequitin said mRNAs never enter the nucleus and therefore we can say for a fact that coronavirus shot mRNAs do no enter the nucleus. However, as I’ve proven with sources, there are many types of mRNA that enter the nucleus . Whether these coronavirus shots mRNAs enter the nucleus or not has never been proven or disproven, it has just been assumed not to enter the nucleus. Furthermore, DNA and protein are also located in the nucleus so how can we say that for sure the shots DNA or protein don’t enter the nucleus?

    Some of your facts are assumptions that were spread by MSM and the CDC which changes positions very often. You cannot arrive at some of these “facts” without years of study which has not been done on these so-called vaccinations.

    And some “facts” are plainly understood. Obviously, if these are cell-based mRNAs, DNAs and protein based shots they don’t work as traditional vaccines with live viruses.

    And thank you for teaching me how these so-called vaccines work, I didn’t know until you so kindly pointed it out to me so…

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998909
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    Syag, I never called myself an anti-vaxxer. I gave my kids all the required shots so why would I call myself an anti-vaxxer? The coronavirus “vaccine” is not a traditional vaccine. It doesn’t keep people from getting the virus nor from passing the virus. There are serious KNOWN side effects where people are simply discarding because they feel it’s a relatively small percentage of people getting the side effects. However, the risks may in the end be far greater of getting serious adverse affects from these shots than from covid-19 particularly in younger people. There are no long term studies that are done on every vaccine and medication put out on the market, but for this so-called vaccine the public are the lab rats.

    I find it highly suspicious that the government wants to force these shots on people who are already recovered from covid-19, on kids and on young adults, these are all people who have an extremely low chance of death or developing serious medical issues from covid-19. Almost every single case of death or serious illness from covid-19 in young adults and children was because of co-morbidities of prior illnesses. I find it suspicious that the government with it’s pro adoptation of the slogan “my body, my choice” has no compunction in forcing people to accept an experimental vaccine. The excuse of the government is that this prevents the spread of coronavirus to those who are immunocompromised, but they know good and well that there’s no real immunity with this vaccine, therefore they want to force mask mandates, some governments are enforcing lockdowns again despite a very large part of their citizens being “vaccinated”, and they are encouraging (and likely eventually forcing) people to get booster shots.

    There are those who will say these shots prevent serious symptoms when getting infected by covid-19 and therefore these shots “must” be given to everyone, to that I say that everyone has the right of “their body, their choice”. People deciding not to take the vaccine have a right to refuse due to their beliefs just as those who BELIEVE these shots to be beneficial are basing their opinions on their beliefs. To base ones opinions on government directives is stupid, the government claims that one can change their genders as well which is scientifically impossible. Many governments throughout history forced people to do stupid things, it doesn’t mean that in 2021 they have your best interests in mind or that the are not stupid. If you think these shots are great that is your belief, at this point in time there are no definite conclusive studies at this point.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998894
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    Ubiquitin, RNA transport into the nucleus is basic cell biology. There are numerous sources for this. I find it hard to believe that you couldn’t find reputable sources by typing in “mRNA tranfser into the nucleus” in the Google subject line.

    I would paste links but I don’t think it is allowed here . Here are some sources:

    PNAS published an article Nov 22 2005 titled “Mechanism of mRNA transport in the nucleus”

    Pubmed published an article on Nov 2005 titled “Mechanism of mRNA transport into the nucleus”

    An article published on viralzone titled “viral penetration in host nucleus” talking about viral RNAs, DNAs, etc pentratrating the nucleus.

    An article titled “Extracellular mRNA transported to the nucleus” published on June 16 2021 on nature .com .

    in reply to: 1984 warning becoming reality 2021 #1998796
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    emes nisht sheker, I specifically spoke about the Jews of Germany where the anti-Semitic laws started first and not about Galicia or Poland. Many German Jews forsaw what’s coming, (although they probably couldn’t imagine in their wildest dreams how bad it would be, but they understood that Jews will be targets) and therefore they liquidated their assets and fled the country. There was a possibility of doing that prior to the war but many German Jews were complacent thinking it will blow over, they believed the Germans were cultured and it they never dreamed the Germans would commit such crimes against them. In other parts of Europe, in Hungary for example, the Jewish leadership constantly told the Hungarian Jews that nothing will happen to them and they were misled while they had time to escape. I am not bringing this from my own made-up historical version, I am repeating what I read in history books and Holocaust biographies.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998807
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    Talking about natural vs so-called coronavirus vaccine immunity, most people who got covid-19 and tested themselves a year later for antibodies still had very high numbers of antibodies while immunity from these so-called vaccine was down to 16% after 6 months according to an Israeli study. The reason booster shots are needed so quickly after the first two doses for a reason, immunity doesn’t last long (if at all seeing how many are developing covid-19 despite getting the shot).

    According to an Israeli study reported in Arutz Sheva, individuals who got the shot were 6.7x more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection. And this study was done just a few months after distribution of the “vaccine”, let’s see what happens in another 6 months.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998793
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    Ubiquitin, as far as the coronavirus shot traveling to different parts of the body than the covid-19 itself, I concede that you are right, they may both travel to the brain, I just took what professor Bhagdi said as proof and forgot about those who developed DVT from the virus itself. However regardless, it has been established these shots itself can cause deep vein thrombosis, myocarditis, pericarditis, and neurological adverse conditions.

    If people want to talk about the elderly getting these shots I see their point. However for those who have already recovered from covid-19 and for younger people, and certainly for teens and children, these shots can cause more adverse reactions and deaths than covid-19.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998781
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    ubiquitin, talking about not knowing how so-called vaccines work which you claim I did, you showed ignorance in telling me that natural mRNAs do not enter the nucleus which is wrong, they certainly do enter the nucleus. There is no definite proof that mRNA from these shots cannot enter the nucleus. And DNA and proteins are in the nucleus as well so the DNA and protein shots could enter as well, in fact likely DNA based shots work in the nucleus as natural DNA do, I’m not going to do research on this because I really don’t care where they are SUPPOSED to carry out their functions, the point is that these shots are not guaranteed to not enter the nucleus where natural DNA is located, and where natural RNAs and proteins enter as well. You said that these shots do not effect the nucleus of the cell which is wrong, the entire premise of this “vaccine” stands on the fact that it is supposed to “teach” the cell how to respond to the virus. As for changing the DNA, I did not say it changes the hair, color, eye color, etc. I clearly said it can change the way our bodies naturally respond to viruses that is coded in the DNA.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998549
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    Thanks for pointing that out about Bhagdi. Regardless, there is proof that the coronavirus shot can travel to the brain as we have seen cases around the world of cerebral vein thrombosis caused by the shot.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998531
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    ubiquitin, Professor Sucharit Bkhadi, MD and a number of his colleagues warned about the danger of cerebral vein thrombosis from coronavirus “vaccine” shots. They said that these gene-based injections cana travel anywhere in the body including to the brain.

    According to WHO, from March 12- April 21 there were 12 reported cases in the US of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis caused by the the coronavirus shots. There were many cases reported in Europe. You may say that is a tiny percent of the many shots given, however there are undereported cases and we don’t know the long-term affects of these shots. In any case, as I stressed repeatedly, I think that generally the initial two shots will not adversely effect the majority of those who received the so-called vaccine, however I believe that “booster” shots, especially if they will continously be given every few months when the eficacy of these shots will wear off ( provided they had any efiacy to begin with…) will definitely cause serious medical issues in recipients.

    in reply to: 1984 warning becoming reality 2021 #1998366
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    rightwriter, you are 100% right. It has always boggled my mind that Jews in Germany were ok with their rights slowly being taken away by Hitler y”s and his henchmen. And then when they couldn’t escape or liquidate heir assets anymore they were pushed into cattle cars to be “relocated” to work camps…and the Jews believed them until the end. The same was with Jews all over Europe after hearing of the Nazis atrocities, they didn’t want to believe what was happening.

    And now as more and more of our basic rights are being taken away and people are bullied into submission, foolish people keep on excusing the behaviour of those in power grabbing more and more power and taking away our basic rights and our choices through intimidation, threats and bullying. And now with “infrastructure bill” (+ the next 3.5 trillion dollar bill that’s coming afterwards) they are going even further, wanting to rob us of more rights and money. It’s so clear what is happening, the invading the privacy of our cars, milage taxes and unlimited spending of taxpayer’s money by those in power.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998515
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    Talking about the Delta varient, most covid-19 tests do not read the Delta gemone sequence and all standard tests do not test for this varient. It is media and Fauxi propaganda that spreads talk about the Delta varient as if it’s a given fact that almost all cases today are the Delta varient. In any case, coronavirus cases today are definitely mutations from the original lab-created varient as coronavirus today is only 1% fatal compared to the 2% of last year.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998524
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    ubiquitin, Professor Sucharit Bkhadi, MD and a number of his colleagues about the danger of cerebral vein thrombosis from coronavirus “vaccine” shots. They said that these gene-based injections can travel anywhere in the body including to the brain.

    in reply to: 1984 warning becoming reality 2021 #1998442
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    rightwriter, I agree with you 100%. I wrote a long comment which was not posted, how we can learn from history of not so long ago regarding rights slowly being stripped while people closed their eyes to it until it was too late.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998441
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    Vaccines are supposed to give lasting immunity. When you get a polio or measles vaccine you don’t get polio or measles; that’s what vaccines are meant for, to prevent you from getting viruses or diseases, not to get jabs with a so-called “vaccine” but still have to socially distance and mask up indefinitely( not that I believe in masks) . A shot that you need to socially distance and wear masks indefinitely is not a vaccine in any capacity. Neither is it working if you need boosters every 2-3 months because the efficacy only last that long ( which I’m skeptical if it even lasts that long).

    I have said previously and I say here again, that I believe that for the majority of people two jabs of these so-called vaccines won’t cause issues ( although I’m not sure about it long-term, I am also assuming that in the majority of people these fake “vaccines” will shed before causing serious problems) however if people continue getting “booster” shots it will be extremely dangerous for them. These are mRNAs, DNAs proteins, they travel all over the body to places you don’t want them in, to places the coronavirus doesn’t travel to. It is particularly dangerous for the elderly who have lower immune resistance and for young people causing heart and muscle inflammation.

    It is important to build up the immune system naturally. If the government would have our best interests in mind they would promote healthy lifestyles, keeping gyms open, talking about excersize, fresh air, eating fresh fruits and vegetables; these are the most effective against coronavirus. Hygiene is equally important, people oftentimes people forget about this crucial aspect in staing healthy. Vitamins can also help boost the immune system.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998244
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    Reb Eliezer, first of all, my point here is that “vaccinated” people can spread the virus just as easily as unvaccinated people, with less likely spread from those who already have naturally developed antibodies after contracting the virus previously. So those who got the coronavirus shot should stop feeling so self-righteous for supposedly saving the world and stop bullying those who don’t want the so-called vaccine. These sham vaccines are not preventing the spread of the virus.

    As far as these “vaccines” saving lives, for that you have to believe VAERS and the CDC to be entirely truthful. Which I do not believe they are. First the CDC claimed and misled people that the “vaccine” is 99% effective in preventing infections and spread of infections and the percentages keep on going down. I will also not get into VAERS numbers, the fake flu numbers as well as other major diseases dropping in unprecedented percentages which makes absolutely no sense while covid-19 numbers are “spiking”. As well as there being an average global death rate for 2020 despite millions of people dying of covid-19…The numbers do not add up.I Again, I’m not going into all of that, however I will again say that I do not believe any of that. At this point the covid-19 death rate is 1% and there are no studies at all how many of these were vaccinated. We do know that in Israel many of individuals who died of covid-19 were “vaccinated”. I would be surprised of CDC does a full investigation of how many people globally died from coronavirus after getting the shot. And formerly healthy individuals are complaining of serious side affects of this so-called “vaccination” but manufacturers are disregarding it with only myocarditis and mytosis being officially recognized as a potential serious medical condition that may develope in young people who got the mRNA coronavirus shot. As of yet, they are NO CONTROLLED STUDIES DONE AT ALL ON CELL BASED SHOTS so everyone will come to the conclusions based on whether they believe corrupt, inept governments and lying MSM or not.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998190
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    The CNBC reported on July 30th that 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1998192
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    On July 27 the CDC released a new study showing Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

    in reply to: I’m considered an anti Vaccinator #1997952
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    You may want to reconsider your position and take the shot regardless if you have natural immunity. Look how effective the shots are in Israel…NOT. Another positive to taking this so-called “vaccine” that doesn’t immunize to covid-19 so that you can still get infected nor does it prevent you from spreading it to others, is that it lines the pockets of many, many involved in this scam.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992432
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    2cents, I agree my beliefs need not be a concern of others. This thread is titled “covid vaccine for children” and the opening thread asks for opinions on this topic which is what I gave and I also explained how I arrived to this conclusion. Whoever is not interested in my opinion need not read my posts, I am not holding a gun to anyone’s head. I am simply responding to the title and opening post.

    As for sources, I have not asked anyone posting on this topic to cite their sources and neither will I cite my sources. To find out this info you don’t need to run to the library and pour over numerous books on cell biology. If you are sitting at a computer commenting on TYW likely you can also access the vast amount of scientific information at your fingertips and research that info yourself. It is very simple, you can type in Google subject line, “mRNA transport into nucleus”. You can also research vRNA (virus RNA) transports into the nucleus and mRNA-proteins (mRNP) into the nucleus. There is no one source, there is a mountain of sources stating that RNAs and also proteins (which the coronavirus vaccine is supposed to make the cells produce) enter the nucleus. The key word to use is “transport” not “enter” . When you are asking can RNAs enter the nucleus Google beings forth articles stating the vaccine’s mRNA do not enter the nucleus. However when you write can RNA transport into the nucleus, you see a wealth of scientific published articles prior to the “coronavirus vaccination’s” release, you can find a wealth of articles on the subject of RNAs and proteins entering or reentering the nucleus.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992417
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    At this point in time, with experts assuming but not actually knowing the facts regarding the long term effects of these shots, I am assuming as well that two doses will not have a negative effect on most individuals taking these shots. However, they will need to be repeatedly injected every half a year or so, like flu shots are, likely every half a year or yearly, and I definitely believe repeated injections of these shots would be very dangerous to the human body.

    As far as it’s effectiveness, studying the results in Israel, which now with a new lockdown looming, and other countries who have high doses of the shot per capita, it doesn’t seem like the shots have successfully eliminated the rising rates of coronavirus infections which is what they are intentend for

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992405
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    I believe that every individual should be able to make their own decision regarding getting the coronavirus shot or not.

    I believe it will cause harm to more individuals under 18 years of age than coronavirus. That children may be carriers of coronavirus is not an ok excuse to inject them with potentially very harmful substances. Hashem is the One who decides who will live and die and it’s disgusting and ridiculous to inject a shot that HAS ALREADY caused death and serious illnesses in many teens when coronavirus has almost no impact on those under 18 years of age.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992393
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    Ubiquitin, I have not made a factual error regarding saying DNA producing RNA. As far as bringing into the discussion what came first when to prove my point, so what? In fact it was me saying that we cannot know what came first, only Hashem the Creator knows, so what in the world does evolution have to do with this? Absolutely nothing, that’s what. This is not a discussion of evolution, this is discussion of what Hashem CREATED FIRST DURING CREATION.

    My opinions are based on facts even if you don’t agree with them, unlike your supposed “fact” that natural RNAs don’t enter the nucleus which is totally false.

    That you don’t understand the difference between injecting cell-based shots to “prevent” viruses such as coronaviruses verses treating diseases already in the body, specifically fatal diseases like cancer, doesn’t mean there’s no difference… I do very much believe in gene therapy as a resort of fighting fatal diseases certainly I am pro gene therapy when the gene therapy stays localized in the area that it is supposed to treat unlike cell based coronavirus shots which can travel to the brain causing blood clots. This would be like giving chemotherapy to healthy individuals to prevent mutant cell mutations that is in every single person’s body from turning cancerous! Kol shekein I certainly don’t believe in “potential prevention” of coronavirus through what I believe is incredibly invasive means.

    Indeed, liberals resort to name calling when they cannot argue coherently and calling people names on this thread closely resembles angry liberal behavior.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992380
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    Emes nisht sheker, indeed every day our understanding of science increases, what we know today is not absolute. This does not change the fact that chochma bagoyim which I’ve never said there’s none, I said it’s the right of individuals to choose medical treatment according to their beliefs. You realize that chochma bagoyim doesn’t mean that all goyim believe in the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine? Your goyishe “chochumim” are not bigger than mine… What’s the point of derailing the argument over irrelevent topics? Chochma bagoyim, y”g ikkrim, what else will you bring in this discussion to prove absolutely nothing? The knowledge in the scientific and medical world is always being aquired, the knowledge is never absolute, only Hashem knows everything including everything there is to know about the effects, specifically the long-term effects, of this vaccine which no one on planet Earth knows at this point. There are many medications and treatments the medical and scientific commuity has put their faith in that turned out to be dangerous or non-effective. The medical world is always evolving and more knowledge aquired, oftentimes disputing previous findings. Nothing is absolute only Hashem, regardless of chochmas bagoyim. It is so not relevent to this topic unless you are so naive and don’t know the history of medicine and medical practices. Do you also believe in scientists spouting atheist propaganda? Do you think that many scientists and doctors don’t have ulterior motives? Don’t be so naive.

    My beliefs are based on I what think are logical conclusions and therefore I call myself philosopher. Logic is not a contradiction with belief. My belief in Hashem is based on logic. Due to the finite nature of human brains we cannot comprehend Hashem until Moshiach comes and therefore belief is required, however there is nothing wrong, in fact it is very Yiddish, to base our beliefs on logic and thought. Abraham Avinu aquired knowledge of God through his logic of understanding that the universe could not have come into existence on its own.

    I am mischarcaractherizing nothing of what you said. You have a right to think what I said regarding the coronavirus shot is a loaf of garbage, you don’t have a right to be rude about it.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1992343
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    Always ask, when the Native Americans were exposed to European diseases hundreds died instantly. And then the infection rates went down until herd immunity was acheived. Same happened here in communities where most people were exposed to coronavirus for the first time; first the death rate was extremely high and then it went down BEFORE the vaccine was distributed. Also, the varients vary in intensity and the Delta varient has mutated to the point where it is not as vicious as the original version. All varients were increasingly more moderate to the point that the death rate went down drastically before vaccination distribution. The rates are climbing now after vaccination distribution.

    There are ways of treating covid-19 with medication which would’ve lowered the initial as well as the current death rate, but many health professionals ignore those treatments as does the CDC and WHO and the MSM who not only do/did they ignore this info but they also made fun of Trump’s promoting certain medications successfully treat covid-19.

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    emes nisht sheker, You are not being what the posting name you gave yourself because Dr. Malone is factually the inventor of the RNA vaccine as well as one of the greatest experts in the field. He was the first person to introduce the concept of mRNA vaccines to the scientific world and yes that was in the 80s which was when they actually started working on this technology. Do you think the technology popped up overnight? It took decades to take it to where they could use it without the mRNAs being destroyed by the body’s cells. That there are numerous little websites disputing the fact and it being promoted by Google to “educate” us, does not change that fact. In any case, he is certainly is more knowledgeable than you so I take his words over yours regarding the so-called “coronavirus vaccine”.

    As far as me talking about DNA producing RNA, where does evolution come into the picture? Nowhere. It has nothing to do with the evolution, it is simply about what was first at the time of Creation and I have said that we do not know, no human being can know what Hashem created first. The argument had absolutely nothing to do with evolution and is only about if it is scientifically accurate to say that RNA is produced by DNA. You did not understand what I said so it’s ridiculous to comment on it.

    There are many doctors and professors in this field who are against this vaccine. There are many doctors who do believe that taking the vaccine is the right thing. Every individual is entitled to believe in which professionals they choose to believe. Who are you to decide in which professional an individual should believe in and regarding what individuals feel are the facts of this vaccine? No one has to agree with your opinions on this subject.

    The same for the Rabbonim you mentioned. They are certainly gedolieh hador and please do listen to them but you need to understand that there are other gedolie hador who disagree with them on this topic and also that they are not the poskim that all of klal Yisroel relies upon.

    It is absolutely chutzpah to call me an apikoros for not agreeing with you. In fact, I believe that Hashem made human cells with such unfathomable chochmah that we should not mess around with them. Yes, one should take medication to treat disease but I believe that messing with the human body on a cell level verses targeting a specific disease already in the body or strengthening the immune system through regular vaccines, are completely different things. You can certainly disagree with my opinion based on what your Rabbonim paskened and based on what your doctors say. This does not bound me in any way to your decisions.

    Calling people names is what the liberal reshuim do so don’t think you are being atzaddik here.

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    Avi K, sure the Pfizer vaccine produced such amazing results that masks are mandatory again, the borders are not fully open and infections are going up…

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    Sam Klein, you are 100% correct.

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    Syag, we are talking to walls basically…These people are such believers in whatever the political leaders of this corrupt government say, the same government that says people can “change” genders and that children under 18 can get hormonal therapy to “change their genders”, these same “health experts” are on a crusade of taking away our basic rights because “they know best”. Now the liberal idiots are talking about a “climate lockdown to save the environment” and many in the government are considering this seriously. I kid you not.

    And who empowers these corrupt people in the government? The sheep who fight tooth and nail for them! Yes, they are bitter and angry that we dare have different opinions, but they are sheep nonetheless. It’s not Fauci, the head of NSAID who made sure the Chinese lab was well funded to able to have gain of function of the coronavirus which killed millions globally, no he’s not responsible, we are! It’s not Coumo who put coronavirus infected patients in nursing homes killing tens of thousands of seniors, it’s we who killed them! For shame!

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    ubiquitin, whatever. I already wrote where you were wrong more than once and you ignored it. I’m not going to repeat the entire parshah again 50 times like you enjoy chewing over my words over and over and over again.

    I suggest for all who are “immensely interested” in who was right here to research the topic yourself.

    Anyway, in other news, the inventor of the RNA vaccine, Dr. Robert Malone is saying there is no data for people to make informed decisions regarding the covid-19 vaccine and he thinks that those in the age category of 18 years and younger should not take the vaccines as the risks from getting the shot are greater than from covid-19.

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    Health, good point. Why do woke people only care about about descendents of black slaves when slavery is still practiced to.a large extent on the African continent by black people themselves and by Arabs?

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1986209
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    Yesiurbus, I love how you say the INVENTOR of the mRNA vaccine is using “inflammatory language” about his own invention! Lol! He’s just being honest like a scientist should be and wants the vaccination to go through relevent trials as every medication and vaccine does for many years prior to its release.. He’s also being honest about the known side effects and says since covid-19 barely affects children under 18 the side affects of this vaccine can be potentially worse than the virus.

    And that is considered inflammatory language…

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    Ubiquitin, here we go again. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying DNA produces RNA. That terminology is used many times in the field of science. Because the process is very complicated you can describe it from many angles and that is the way I chose to say it.

    The vaccine IS AFFECTING and MODIFYING the cell’s response and perhap’s the DNA’s as well. Sorry for not saying it so clearly the first time around, I have corrected myself numerous times and AM STILL being bashed

    I am doubling down about what I wrote in this post which I said many times and you still keep on bringing up the same things again and again.

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    Ubiquitin, I can bring up many mistakes you made regarding the DNA and RNA process but I’m simply not interested in repeating myself so many times over and over again. I don’t know how you and another poster keep at it going over the same tiresome repetition just because I don’t agree with you.

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    When YouTube and other social media, Google and most MSM outlets are censoring many doctors and scientists if they don’t toe the official line. That is a fact. Many YouTube videos put up by prominent doctors and scientists were taken down, many social media sites had posts were taken down and Google buries information critical regarding covid-19 regulations and vaccines filtering critical information.

    Basically what you are saying is that since you are pro vaccination anyone not toeing that line does not know how to make their own decisions and should not do so. In other words, you support the liberal communism take-over of the USA that is currently ongoing to stifle American’s freedoms.

    in reply to: COVID VACCINE FOR CHILDREN #1986172
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    Yesiurbus, I have said I am apologizing for grammatical mistakes and now I am mentioning mistypes as well. I wrote NUMEROUS that ithe vaccines modifies the cell’s response that nobody challenges, and that is what I meant to say. I also wrote NUMEROUS times that I BELIEVE that these vaccines can modify DNA and RNA. So I made a mistake in what I wrote originally and you keep on harping on it when YOU MADE quite a few FACTUAL mistakes yourself but I don’t go around repeating it with every new comment I make, I only repeat in my responses to your continuous rounds of attacks on me.

    Your posts are quite infantile by constantly repeating the same things over and over again that which I already repeatedly answered to.

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    Always ask, it’s ok, I feel you are sheep and you feel that we have chutzpah. But who cares, the main thing is that everyone is comfortable with their decision. The problems start when people want to FORCE their OPINIONS AND SPECULATIONS on others on others.

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    coffee addict, yes but the Yisroelim that left Egypt were still slaves themselves as well prior to leaving with their “payments”.

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