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What is less? That’s a huge range. If people are eved Hashem, even if they don’t practice the same type of frumkeit as their parents, I don’t look down on them. But OTD or immature, barely holding onto Yiddishkeit, life is one long party types, i certainly look down on these people.

onto them, I meant to say

ujm, he did not bring any source that says that shaving was a tekanah from the Vaad HaArbeh Arotzos nor did he bring any sources specifically regarding shaving only about concerns of chatzitzah.

Syag, ok fine, if it’s easier to label people then go ahead and label them. However, that does not make ADHD a true thing. People whom you would label ADHD because they can’t sit too long in class or in an office setting or concentrate on projects or on many subjects, can sit in one place for hours on projects that interests them, even staying up entire nights if it is needed to finish a project. “Adhd” people can concentrate on technical and intricate subjects if they have an in it! So how is ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER an appropriate term to use for these people?

Every person has characteristics which if you would force them into a certain situation can exhibit negative tendencies if it goes agianst their nature. Put non-adhd people in a world where adhd labeled people thrive and they may have major difficulties!

ADHA label people CAN concentrate and don’t have a disorder! Generally, the people with this label can be very lazy when doing essential things important for an orderly and healthy life and not do them at all or at a slower pace because they are not interested in doing it. But that is a negative side of their characteristics but every single characteristic of a people has negative and positive sides to it and that is precisely how we grow, by overcoming the negative sides our personalities have and utilizing the positive power that our characteristics have.

I would lael adhd people as intelligently attention hyperfocused.

barlshwartz1, thank you for your wonderful mussar shmuez… This is a discussion where we tried getting to the root of this minhug with everyone presenting what they know and you come along with this superior attitude…I’m not impressed at all. Perhaps you are right, but likely not. You do not bring any sources to your claim and so they can be as true as anyone else’s.

I have heard from Satmer women who shave and they tell me it’s based on kabbalah that a married women’s hair is klippas and that’s why it needs to be shaved and also because it’s a big avaeirah for “bei hur” (hair that sticks out from the covering) to be seen. That’s what they are they are taught. Whether that is the original reason or not, I don’t know

Now, not only did many of the countries you claimed the women shaved their hair, not shave their hair, but they also didn’t wear wigs or headcoverings either in many of these countries, even women whose husbands were talmidei chachumim. I highly doubt they would go from shaving to not wearing any headcoverings.

Not only that, but Jewish who came from these countries to Israel in the in the late 19th and early 20th century do not shave either. Many Israeli Chassidishe women don’t shave at all.

Yserbius, shorter jackets are more tzniusdig than long jackets?

I’m so inspired by women learning gemorah. When females learn gemorah, most of the time it’s mamesh, mamesh learning only l’Shem Shomayim, it’s mamesh learning only lishmu, and it’s got absolutely nothing to do with modern ideology of women doing the same things as men.

I’m going to start learning gemorah because I want to shteig in my levels of feminist aspirations, oops sorry, I meant that I want to shteig in my ruchnius, and learning gemorah is the ideal and proper way for women to appropriately shteig in all levels of ruchnius that a Jewish woman should aspire to in tznius, yira Shomayim, chesed, etc.

AAQ, to think we are wiser than the gedoilim of 200 years ago is absolutely a folly. We are less wise, that’s for sure. Years ago almost no Jews converted except for a few individuals unless it was forced conversions, even then, masses of Jews died Al Kiddush Hashem. Today we unfortunately have individual Jews, mostly non-educated, who convert to Christianity. There Jewish women marrying Muslims and converting to Islam. And unfortunately we have boys and girls, too many too count, that go OTD. And we have adults who go OTD as well.

We are a shvache dor, we are certainly not better than our ancestors.

Yes, a big thanks to all the moderators!

The moderators must have a lot of confidence though. I am always second guessing myself if I ruffled anyone’s feathers whether it was a justified response.

I recently anaylized two posters comments on one thread and came to the conclusion that they are trolls. However I can only say that with 80% certainty and have been bashing myself for saying anything because if they really meant what they said then I hope I didnt hurt innocent people. I’m asking me mechila if these two posters on the chinuch thread weren’t trolls.

AAQ, I’ve read a few articles that say that these vaccines does not price b&t cells. I can look up sources later.

I’m certainly not saying advocating for people to willfully get covid. I’m saying billions of people got covid despite wearing masks, despite lockdowns and despite social distancing. Unless you and your family plan to live in protected bubbles your entire lives, eventually you will most likely at some point become infected with covid, unless you will be one of few exceptions who won’t get it, but the majority of will get sick with covid as they do with a virus that travels quickly and easily as covid does. And of course, thousands of people got covid even after taking the covid shot and that number will rise the further away we get from the initial doses. Which leads us to a 27th+ booster shot which will still not prevent people from getting covid.

Gadolhadorah, halacha is supreme to secular law. But, as you said, just because someone can do something according to halacha doesn’t mean they should take advantage of that.

Imagine if I as a mother would “take advantage” of the laws of kibud eim and force one of my children to cook, clean the entire house and wash the laundry every day because my daughter would be obligated to do so according to halacha. That is abuse plain and simple.

Now I forgot to add in my previous comment to ujm, that although individuals have “rights” according to halacha, we also have halachic “obligations”, so for example, we cannot cause pain for others. So when people disregard an halachik obligation to take advantage of an halachik right, they will go to gehinom for trampling on halacha, especially if it was bein adom lachveroy.

Ujm, will you also sell your underage daughter to whomever you want because you could do so according to halacha?

I really pity the women in your family. Unless you are a troll… Can you tell me of what purpose does it do to keep a woman chained who doesn’t want to be married to the likes of you?

I’m telling you that many people have a straight path to gehinom paved with excuses of “but it was allowed according to halacha”! Whether such an excuse is used for untzniusdige dress when some women always find excuses like “it doesnt say anywhere in halacha that you can’t wear a long wig till the waist”, to abusers who abuse with an excuse that “halacha allows it”…there’s a path straight to gehinom, guaranteed!

Always ask, well, vaxxed people are dying as well, unfortunately, either from “breakthrough cases” or from side effects. And we are not even talking about long-term effects that were not studied or are in the process of being studied ( mostly by the pharmaceutical companies…which guarantees no honest reporting of results)

Always ask, according to today’s definition of off the charts communist, immoral behaimo liberals, Adams APPEARS to be somewhat of a centrist…but certainly he cannot save NYC…

A month ago the doctors in Israel said 99% of hospitalized are non-vaxxers. Now they are saying 65% hospitalized are unvaxxed…let’s see the numbers in a year.

Ujm, ok so I guess you support the new “style”.

Why stop at my great-grandmother, dressing like our ancestors Sura, Rivka, Ruchal and Leah would be better, no?

I googled “quisquam” and no business with that name shows up. I googled computer kiosks in Boro Park, NY but they all open at 10:00 or later and none are named “Quisquam”.

No frum kiosk store would think of naming their business with the unfamiliar Latin word “quisquam” . Perhaps you are graphic designers using a word from the “Loren ipsum” placeholder text…

And I should add that it’s vice versa, a woman paying for her kids expenses is not supporting her husband, or ex-husband if she’s the one paying child support ( which happens sometimes if she a bigger earner than the husband). No one says, if the wife contributes to the children’s expenses, that she supports the husband (or ex-husband) so why say the husband supports the wife (or ex-wife) if the money goes for the kids?

AviraDeArah wrote “You’ve also not said clearly that you do not believe in atzmus elokus theology, nor have you even tried the “you have to know what it means” retort – I’d like you to say on the record, a simple yes or no, if you believe that a rebbe is the essence of god wrapped in a body and therefore you can pray at the grave of a rebbe, and it’s not an intermediary, because he is the essence of god wrapped in a body.

Yes or no.”
I have noted that Yechi Hamalech has not responded.

If AviraDeArah’s assertions are correct, which I hope they are not, then this ideoligy is a second Christian religion in the making. Unfortunately Yechi Hamalech has not responded in the negative. This is very concerning and eye opening to me.

Paris is not the headquarters for fashion for many years already.

If a style is nice and tzniusdig I have no problem with it. The weird thing is when people just buy stuff cause they see others wearing it or it’s in the stores and it’s ugly and doesn’t suit them. For example, these two piece shapeless outfits and shapeless dresses with ugly flower patterns on the fabric that look like they were shlepped out of my great, great grandmother’s basement. They just looks absolutely stupid. This season I’ve seen knitted vests made of thick yarn added to these outfits. Really?! Wearing the outfits that our great-grandmother’s wore wouldn’t occur to anyone but if the stores sell it it must be “in” and if some buy it cause it’s “in” then everyone else has to wear it and it becomes “really pretty”. Uch, monkey see, monkey do makes me want to vomit.

Mod-29 now it makes sense… probably two teenage girls having fun…
According to just myself, eishis chayil “suddenly” got married at 21…and “suddenly” turned into a tough woman…
My personal experiences in real life have been that a person who is conscious that their abusive parents behavior is not ok is more sensitive and attuned to their children than parents who did not experience abuse. It doesn’t mean they are perfect parents and it doesn’t mean they won’t have scars that need to heal during parenthood, but generally they simply do the opposite of their parents because their parent’s behavior revolts them. I’be seen this happen numerous times. Generally, someone who is of average intelligence and above does not repeat abusive behavior of their parents.

Yserbius123, how do you know what the “majority of rational and educated world” is saying? I see plenty of “rational and educated” professors, scientists and doctors being anti-lockdowns, anti-masks, and anti-covidvaccines.

In any case, what the majority of any class say is not necessarily relevent to the truth or to what is right. In just one example, the majority of cultured and educated Germans supported Hitler… That the majority of “enlightenment and educated” masses support anyone or anything does not necessarily make it correct.

FrumWhere, ok, I guess I didn’t get the joke …

rightwriter, go to Adams website and you’ll see what he supports; he’s a total liberal. He will indeed be a second Dinkins but worse cause a bigger liberal ( a species that didn’t exist back when Dinkins was mayor).

FrumWhere, your point is what exactly? I’m not denying that there are a tiny minority of Chassidim marrying off at 16 but the vast majority of Chassidim marry off much later. We are Chassidish, my daughter is 20 and only 5 of her classmates are engaged (out of 27 girls)

The majority of American Chassidishe boys and girls get engaged at between 19-21 years of age so your comment is ridiculous.