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wow – the reason I asked is as follows. You have said
– he grew up in normal home
– he wants to hang out on the street and not do anything (essentially, that’s how whatever the problem is is manifesting itself)
So we have a kashe (subject of the last 600 posts), what is the issue (and also probably what is his friend’s issue)?
So I was thinking (it’s a thought – that’s all) as follows:
One of the foundational concepts of Transactional Analysis psychotherapy is the script. That is, the subconcious life plan of the individual.
This is formed early in life (about the age of 6) and goes through various permutations and combinations as the child tests reality and determines their possibilities.
It sounded like your child does not have a script, which would be a psychopathology. Becuase he has told you virtually explicitly that he does not know where he is going.
So he would be now testing a random process of seeing where he will end up in life if he lets go of everything he knew and only sails in unchartered waters
Rav Shach z”l said for all he knows mashiach will come in 2000 years time
Is that because Jews don’t count?
gadol hador occurs in the gemara in relation to someone who can be dan yechidi
Hashem showed Adam the manhigim of every generation
“a rasha mrusha apikorus gamur who is killed for being Jewish while maintaining his heretical beliefs and evil behavior unto his dying breath, is not going straight into Gan Eden” – respectfully disagree
Does the headless horseman have to wear a hat?
Whether you get olam habah does not depend on your personal zechuyos as per fourth comment on this thread
Do you mean a melamed or a chassidish rebbe?
Choppy – Rabbi Mordechai Miller of Gateshead said if a person was pulled away from bowing before the altar in a church because the Nazis found out his grandmother was Jewish and they killed him for being Jewish while he is protesting that he is not, he is going straight to olam haba
had you asked him when he was 10 what he wanted to be when he grew up what would he have said?
What tefillah did the Higg’s Boson say on Yom Kippur?
Katonti mi’mass
here to help – “these kids are very often not willing to go for therapy”
so ask him
“I STRONGLY believe that no one can help him more than his parents can” – there is a multi-billion dollar psychotherapy industry that says otherwise
The passuk says – atem eydai – you are My witnesses.
This means that as the chosen people, we very often do not do what we are meant to do, but still kol yisroel yesh lahem chelek leolam haba becuase the purpose of our existence transcends the limits of olam hazeh.
If someone dies becuase they are Jewish, that means they have left an indelible marker in history that there was such a thing as a Jew.
I didn’t meet him but I went to the shtiebel he was learning in to see him. It was quite amazing to see someone of that age learning like a bochur, yehe zichro baruch.
Mobico – do you have a source for that Chazon Ish?
James Thurber was the gadol hador
or start learning daf yomi
Please forgive me for the following…
Bipolar is a word – let’s forget about that, words are irrelevant. The point the freeze is making I think is that to be fair your son is dysfunctional, that needs therapy.
What happened to the ‘schools’ you were considering?
off topic
what happens if there is a blizzard?
I have met Moshiach, a friend of mine was in a shop where the shopkeeper told them they were calling their kid Hallelukah (not sure how you would be able to pronounce this)
or Microsoft’s idea of choice of operating system
There you go, my nevuah was right, anyone want to know tomorrow’s lottery winning tickets?
is it safe / what size dirot?
I spotted Rebbi Akiva Eiger
Locally all over the world or online?
Why are the croutons different to bread eaten to accompany salty fish which you don’t make a berachah on?
What happens if you don’t have a hat? Does that mean you never get to daven with a minyan? This could be a segulah for perishus and not talking lashon hara, which is especially appropriate in the 3 weeks.
Try python
“As far as chilonim, I don’t know who you are trying to fool.” A lot of chilonim have a live and let live attitude, it is the looney left that makes most of the issues
Sam2 – I don’t think that is relevant. PBA is right anyway, it is a moral call on frum Jews and the message is, conform to the way we are.
It’s fairly typical of post-war Israeli mussar (non-yeshivish yeshivish) style
Fair call, 200 years ago we weren’t all living in cramped city quarters, we had something called sky and grass and sheep and birds and laneways.
Who says everyone can stay spiritually attuned and live in a blaring psychadelic mind-numbingly functional society, it’s not easy
I don’t think you can understand this inyan with a “hagashah mussari”. This relates to a sog from Rav Hutner, ‘The darshanim said mihr dahr arein legen in die pessukim’, the baalei mussar said, ‘Mihr darf nicht arein leigin, nur mihr darf arus nehmen fun die pessukim.’ Rav Hutner said, it comes out, diese legen arein und diese nemmen arois ober keiner sogt peshat nischt!
(shaygetz – apologies for my german yiddish)
The kevius ha’halacha has got nothing to do with a “ramah nisgavah” of adinus hamidos.
Rb Mordechai Miller explained both things made him angry and combined together he decided to ‘divorce’ his pilegesh so they are both true
You might want some APC surge protectors
Sam2 – I think the Torah view of the world is Torah centric and the understanding of the nature of the world by someone who is coming to determine the halacha is the havanah of the world that is valid in Torah discussions.
Therefore if we have a hishtashelus in halacha so that prior generations were kovea halacha at a level that is locked out to us (for whatever reason – various discussions around why you can’t argue on a gemara) then we are also locked out of the dicussion around the havanah of the world that relates to that discussion essentially
I don’t believe this will ever get through, it would be civil war
the Torah Ohr (hagahos on Maalos ha’Torah) says that Torah which is not the halacha le’maaseh is Torah which left shamayim but never came to the aretz.
Just to re-iterate a point that has been mentioned a few times. Lephi aniyus daati the answer to the question asked at the chasuna (a few posts ago) – what is going on? Is that if shamayim (ruchniyos… whatever you want to call it) is painted in such a demarcated gridlike fashion that you absolutely have to fit in in a very particular way to be called a good person, then that will drive away normal children who simply don’t relate to / can’t relate to such a circumscribed mode of existence.
I am not offering any solutions becuase I don’t have any, but I am absolutely convinced that that is the answer to ‘what is going on’
Sam2 – glad you said that, I’ve been thinking along the same lines. The offers to him are meaningless becuase his interpretation of them is ‘you’re a failure but here’s a shortcut that might see you through’
Bochur sog – Lo tov he’yis ha’adam le’vado – it’s not good, but it’s not bad
Vechi mah inyan shemittah etzel har sinai? This means that Hashem empathizes with us kaveyachol, to say that we daven for Hashem chas veshalom that He should not experience the tzar he has from empathizing with us through our redemption is just Polish and the wrong way round.
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the rambam says there is no chisaron shayach to Hashem. Tzar is from chisaron.
By discussing the issues of the older sibling with the younger sibling
SayIDidIt – “our Father in Shomayim is suffering.” – this is pure apikorsus
w.o.w. – what is the counselling meant to accomplish?
he wouldn’t do it, and he wouldn’t be interested – ask him
I’m not sure it would be right to force him to daven when he hates it – hergel naaseh teva – people get used to doing the things that they do
I’d rather ‘bribe’ him to stay with counseling – there is no tachlis in that
please ignore if off the mark