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The three goals of this war were:

“Eliminating Hamas, returning all of our hostages and ensuring that Gaza will never again go back to being a threat to the State of Israel.”

Achievements:
0/3.

(To be completely accurate, they did return 4 of the hostages via war. So that gives them just over half a percent in their stated goals.)

I don’t doubt that fatso twisted BN’s arm til he capitulated. But it’s capitulation. No other word for it.

@AAQ, completely unreasonable, as usual.
Why is there a mandate to have a “deal”? What does “deal” mean? Surrendering the fight that hundreds of soldiers gave their lives for? Releasing murderers, rebuilding Hamas [kri Gaza ksiv], relinquishing controls of “some” of the Philadelphi corridor? Legitimizing Hamas, catering to their whims, and making some fat idiot happy?

Then you have the insanity to say you “trust Bibi’s government….” Why in heaven;s name would you trust those arrogant idiots with anything?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps you can trust them to do whatever gives the most photo ops but nothing more.
“….to reach the best deal they can…..” Again with this deal. Who said there must be a deal?

And your last sentence is so typical of the jerks of your ilk. Spout stupidity and spin a clever-sounding meme to sound like you’re making sense, insulting logic and all of humankind.

You got your wish.

Israel capitulated to Hezbollah, and now to Hamas as well. [The latter, a fact that the true Oheiv Yisrael God’s Chosen gift for His people and all of America, the toughest toughie who has a sky high IQ and understands foreign policy better than anyone else, is taking pride in.]

very legitimate question.

@lies2power
How damaged is your soul that you have to contrive stupidities to protect your lies?

The Tal Law exempts full-time Yeshiva students from military draft. The law does not differentiate between the various labels of Judaism, nor their shirt colors.

So there you have it. Yeshiva students do not fight in the IDF because they are full-time yeshiva students.

Why do Hesder yeshiva boys fight in the army?
Because they [or their yeshivos] CHOOSE not to accept the exemption. Were they to attempt, based on the Tal law, to not fight they would [have] succeeded.

(correction to my previous post, 2332686: I, ironically, wrote pekak instead of lakewoodbt.)

Actually not.
Aveiros are forbidden regardless of the consequence.

& comparing it to swine flu??
Please.

1) Why “the Israeli Army and the chayalim” either write “soldiers” or “Tzeva HaYisraeli”.
2) Really stupid question. I supported Ted Cruz. Was it hypocritical that I didn’t give him my living room couch?

I’m not following the whole thread here; just had to comment on Always Act Qrazy’s latest stupidity. This is at least the third time on this forum he shared that revolutionary anecdote that a mainstream Rav’s Rebbitzen assisted him with finding the right word. This, he totes always as some sort of overblown proof of something more ridiculous each time. This time, that this Rebbitzen “lead”.

@Bitter

“Obviously every בר בי רב לחד יומא understands that there’s a חיוב גמור על פי דין for every able-bodied Jew to fight in today’s war, … But it’s funny when people like the original poster sit back in their armchair with their leg on their knee asking what the “chareidim” should be doing. You’re just as מחוייב as they are. Even if you live in America. So stop being a hypocrite and asking how other people can be more meticulous in halachah and go join the army yourself. …Are you currently enlisted in the IDF? If not, keep quiet. ”

Huh? Are you in the IDF? And if you’re excused (maybe you’re over 60) then why can’t the OP be as well?

BTW
“The “chareidim” are obviously remiss in their halachic obligation, but they are at least contributing to some extent by learning Torah and becoming תלמידי חכמים ”
Huh? I thought everyone except for you, specifically and particularly the “chareidim” in “yeshivos” are all complete ignoramuses.

@computer
“Every terrorist already knows that they could be killed by Israel. It hasn’t stopped any of them till now. and these pagers exploding won’t stopping them in the future either.”

Arabs don’t fear death. They do, however, HATE the idea of compromised living. I can assure you that the Hezbollah International Co. has no support group for the handicapped, couldn’t care less if they’re neglected, and the disdain they have for the handicapped makes this forum’s disdain for the elderly pale in comparison.

Hello, Rabbi Shazsheri. Did a yeshiva bochur bully you when you were a kid?

Everything.
your historic and sociologic bio. your struggles and challenges. your worldview and if it ever changed.
Where and who you are today.

“Was it worth for Netanyahu to have not agreed to a cease fire”

Not sure what universe you live on, but Netanyahu never “didn’t agree to a cease fire [sic]”. There never was a cease fire [sic] deal brokered.

What is YI?

@Dr.
The term “normally don’t see eye to eye” is very mild, fitting when you’re talking about your colleague or neighbor, not reshaim who use every opportunity they have to vilify all things sacred. תכלית שנאה שנאתים.

I am indeed unfamiliar with JP’s case, but either way it seemed you’re saying he deserved his sentence due to additional crimes, not the crime(s) that he was actually sentence for. Sorry if I misunderstood.

🏳️ביחד הפסדנו🏳️

Just clarifying, my “in all seriousness” preface wasn’t to imply that the 1st sentence wasn’t serious.
Just that I was afraid the question would sound sarcastic.

“The mission of the Jews is clearly spelled out in the Torah – to be a kingdom of priests and holy nation IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL.”

I love how you add your own clause in the translation, emphasized with caps.
Also begs the question why you didn’t choose a pasuk like וירשתם אוחה וישבתם בה.

the last post here currently is from before an event that changed everything.

7 hours ago Trump supporters were chanting “genocide Joe” and he said “they’re not wrong.”
Trumpies can spin that however they want, and I look forward to all the creativity to come.

But personally it convinced me beyond all doubt: Dump Trump.

you accursed moderators who allowed sicko’s reform posts here. and still haven’t outed him.
hell is extremely hot.

but hey at least he’s not tedious.

@AAQ
I’m assuming that your post was a [cowardly] response to me.
If so, you characteristically completely missed the boat.

I’m making a completely reasonable declaration that in order to mandate a draft you have to A]risk the soldiers’ lives not one iota more than necessary. B]Be out to win the war. {I don’t remember if I actually discussed B} in my above post, but it’s still true.}
Failure to do that voids any right to make a draft.

Now, the questions: SO, what’s gonna be? What should we do? Do you want to die?

Great questions. Excellent questions. Phenomenal questions. I’m not offering any answer.
But it remains true. In order to have the right to impose a draft, the government must meet the above two criteria.