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Sages in the Talmud are recorded to have had beer and wine as the drink of the day; and I don’t think them women drank diet coke.
The women drank the diet coke of the day, just as you posited that the men drank the beer of the day.
He’s a radical.
A library is assur because of seforim chitzonim. The Mishna in Sanhedrin 10:1 that says a person loses his Olam Haboa by reading the wrong books since it corrupts his mind.
Exactly MDG. So having a bad friend can, and in her case almost did, cause one to go OTD. Perhaps it is the largest reason in fact.
Typically a person might grab a cup of coffee in the office or car when needing a boost, while drinking Coke at a meal meeting a client or other social function in a restaurant.
Was the housekeeper taking care of the children alone a frum yid?
DY: Coffee is used socially? Coke is not used socially? Are dates not a social function? If so, the opposite would seem to hold true.
gefen: On that thread in question, you called him a baal gaava and a chutzpinyak. Is that civil and would you have called him that in person?
aries: One of the teens posted above. She said it was from being influenced by a bad friend. As parents, we need to make sure we know who our children’s friends are, and keep the bad influences away.
aries: It isn’t just a “minhug”; its halacha.
And who was home for your child when he and she got off the bus?
Derech HaMelech:
That would be the ideal way everyone should do it anywhere.
How is wearing her hair in public an “opportunity”? Besides, she would need to cover it after the Chupa anyways. Is that a bad thing or is a married woman covering her hair a loss? That’s what the comment seems to imply.
aries: You were dead-set against men drinking on a date (in the other thread), and yet here you are more open-minded about a woman downing a beer? Shocking!
I would drive her home immediately and wish her the best of luck on her future.
Derech: Hashem made the decision that she should sin and do teshuva? That is what your comment seems to imply.
rshalom: What is the minhag of Ashkenazi communities? Certainly not to drink in a bar C”V. The S”A cited by DY clearly prohibits that.
Hitler was a National Socialist.
Hitler also wore pants. Do you wear pants Charlie?
It IS less expensive to get soda from Shop Rite.
Isn’t there a soda machine in the area?
What’s backgammon have to do with going to a bar?
A Frum person should never be in a bar.
I usually put the cover letter in the body of the e-mail and the resume as an attachment.
How many troy ounces?
Yet you’d have no problem with him getting beer in a bar at the bowling alley??
Was he driving home afterwards?
observanteen makes a very good point (based on her personal experience.) Many people go OTD because they have bad influences and bad friends.
Parent’s need to control who their children are friends with, and not allow bad influences.
It’s hard to believe that the person in your scenario, dying and doing as many mitzvos as possible, doesn’t truly regret his sins.
A person can do teshuva on his deathbed, and become a tzadik, even after a lifetime of evil.
Wolf: The definition of a Talmid Chochom isn’t a matter of opinion on which you can disagree. It has a defined definition. The Gemorah enumerates the attributes of a Talmid Chochom. These include not being the last to enter the Beis HaMedrash, not talking to a woman in the street, etc. Also, the principles of which a Talmid Chochom must live, is stated in ???? ??? ??? ????. The opening sentence says a Talmid Chochom is modest, humble, endures justice, avoids wrongdoing, etc. So in fact a Talmid Chochom by definition is a Tzadik, and not merely someone who is “learned”, otherwise he isn’t a Talmid Chochom.
A Talmid Chochom does not, by definition, have to be tzadik. Nor does a tzadik, by definition, have to be a talmid chochom.
My comment didn’t address or dispute that. But now that you brought it up, while it is true that a tzadik does not, by definition, need to be a talmid chochom, OTOH a talmid chochom does by definition need to be a tzadik. A rasha who knows kol HaTorah kula is no “talmid chochom”.
According to the mishna brurah and orech hashulchan you do.
You do what?
Is restoring the original peyos any more difficult than letting it grow, by not cutting the area when getting a haircut?
Why must everyone play up to the photographer? The point of the wedding is to be msameach choson v’kalla, not to look good on paper.
midswesterner: Said Gemora doesn’t loosen tznius requirements at a wedding, even for a Kallah, her mother, sisters, mother-in-law, and sisters-in-laws.
Mike: You think the OTD crisis stems in part from the fact that people see others seemingly getting away with non-tznius dress? You make a good point, and I cant say I disagree with you.
A Bas Talmid Chochom, by definition, is yichus.
A Tzadik, by definition, has more zchusim than a non-tzadik.
No wonder so many of our young people are otd when some people portray yiddishkeit so ugly.
Perhaps people are OTD because when things are so loose, some people think laws have no meaning and everything is a free-for-all.
A child needs a full-time mother. To deny a child his mother is abuse, and a major cause of OTD.
Itche: If he was never frum you might be able to say if he was tinok shenishba he might still be a good person. But someone who knows and was brought up with Torah, and throws it out and starts violating the Torah, is no tinok shenishba and can not be described as good.
I think Feter Shmelka and R Shmuel’s comment are hand-in-hand. The lack of an at home mother is essentially abusive.
How long does it take to regrow?
mamash: I notice you are a big fan of letzanus here. The Mesilas Yeshorim says a small amount of letzanus can override 100 proofs.
“Today he is a fine young man and unobservant.”
One cannot be a “fine” young man, if he discarded Torah observance.
OC: That review is the opinion of the anonymous reviewer on Amazon, who may know nothing of what he is talking about.
And the author is any more right than anyone here because?
And what makes you confident said author is not conjecturing his personal biases?
Originally everyone spoke Loshon Kodesh. Then came the Tower of Babel, and Hashem split the world into 70 spoken languages, instead of the just one Loshon Kodesh.
If there were as many dogs as cars, you’d have a far higher accident rate of dogs biting men crossing the street, than there is of cars hitting men crossing the street. Simply extrapolate the number of incidents per dog per year, to the number of incidents of per car per year.