I dont get it, my post was worse than the other ones? She said the idf should let the idiots fend for themselves. Thts ok but not what i said?

The heter meah rabonim does not make anyone lose credibility. Cant believe someone uses that as a way to put down big people and say what they want. You really want to start up with them?

1) “…offered any intelligent proposals as to how EY should defend itself against terrorists if everyone gets a draft derferral?”

2) “Have they proposed some form of alternative public service for the yungerleit who they insist not serve in the IDF?”

What does 2 have to do with anything? are you fearing for the lives of jews or is this about it being unfair that theyre off scott free?

I cant judge you because my yztr hara isnt to show that i know better than the big rabbis bh.

Enjoy kabalas hatorah without gedolim

Im assuming u mean like chessed when u say mitzva. I dont think youre supposed to allow the person to take advantage of your kindenesss and let them walk all over you and abuse you. Also cud be you cant do a chessed for someone that doesnt appreciate it, (i assume abusing you especially.)

And protecting yourself is important as well. We have to be honest about where we are holding by and not go overboard with our avodah into situations that are too much and over the line, imbalance. Im not sure i know what the deal is with the tzedaka box but sounds weird.

yeh heard that shin dalet thing also. And yeah what are you gonna do about the ads.

Even for stam kosher food its gonna be tuff soon. Hope not but you heartd it here first, the frum community is getting marketed to and people will start thinking happiness can only be attained through the extravagance portrayed.

AVRAM in MD-

Im talking about a yungerman in kollel (who im pro) that can physically work and bh receive benefits. We live a mdinah of chessed, but to disprove of a president because of his move which is not an attack at all on kollel (rather a psik raisha maybe) is immature.

I think you’ll agree with me that not everyone in kollel has the right to complain? its spoiled to do so

Oh and dont forget that ur not alone in this fight, a common feeling among the ones holding off while most people are giving in. chazak.

i believe it isnt such a bad move by trump, even though it hurts us. And benefits like these are a brachah but not deserved

mik5 already admitted to feeling bad about havung asked someone else…

havent been here in while, liked the old way of being able to see what u wrote while its awaiting moderation but cud be its just what i was used to.

ZDAD awrite then but the context is kinda helpful. Like usually any time you’l hear a frum person talking about technology and their spirituality, it wil be helpful for you to realize they arent talking about gps. There, just made your life so much more lesss complicted.

The real world is the the beis medrsh lets not forget that. I am in no way pushing to be sheltered but the reality is that not knowing whats going on in the world (not in a shmutz sense but in a ignorant sense) isnt as important as people like to believe. But definitely people need to relax and if youre taking a vote then r i vote ur right and lack of world inoculation to the young is hazardous.

ah i hear what u saying about bout taken over by it. bh i dont have a smart phone now but even from reg txting i get that problem. actually about to give a report on the negative effects of socia media in lil bit. sry cant help u but i can tel u to daven, works wonders. again RESPECT!

People definitely need to relax. Its a hard balance what to shelter how to shelter gimme shelter. Too sheltered doesnt really work anymore cuz stuff are seeping in through all the cracks, a shame cuz there is nowhere completely safe anymore (even in yeshiva r”l). No shelter at all and a person gets swept away by the storm. The current is strong though, so parents are petrified that the little bit they give in will be dangerous.

Listen, the difference between ok and too late happens quickly without anyone realizing even the person himself. (btw, its a little silly to say all OOT yeshivas are bad, plus there are always tons people that dont fall into the “mainstream regular” (cough) category who should def go to another yeshiva)

i dont think this kinda stuff works on people nowadays. Especially if they think theyre headed without any stop overs already. Positive stuff is the way for us now. Ask ur local rabbi that knows all 5 chelkei s'”a

Sorry I’m late

Slifkonian It is actually unfortunate that this question has to be asked. If this person has good middos, learns, and also fulfills Chazals directives to be self sufficient, then what is not to like? What do you mean that his shittos might be too modern? If he has legitimate Torah views, then good.

Im guessing if your name is Slifkonian then your just trolling. That and you expecting this girl to want a guy who is self sufficient.

CTLawyer, Mazel tov! I get that you can afford the extravagance. I’m not sure if you live in a community where this is the norm and most people there can afford this. If thats the case then i guess kol hakovod.

The problem is when youre the rich guy around and your standards are not the same as everyone around you. Heres where it gets sticky. (Im sure you know what im about to say.) Although it makes sense that someone should go to a lavish wedding and say, “Oh, this is nice but lo and behold i just can’t afford doing the same-oh fooey” lots of people dont. Or feel they can’t.

I’m usually on board with what you say but im gonna disagree with you on this one

not a goy, a baal mum

ya, just the way i talk, cmon be a sport. i hear what your saying. it happens to be that for some of these poeple who are suffering, pot is a huge help in the process of fighting. i understand were switching from rec to med but for the med the argument should still hold true.

LESSCHUMRAS- By the end of the 1800’s most of Western European Jews and a large and growing number of Eastern European Jews were OTD. If I’m not mistaken, there was no Internet then

it still is possible to be causing people to go off the derech now though, an added problem which didnt exist before.

. Modern kids pretty much always had access prior to the Internet through libraries, college etc. Then Internet simply made it easier. In the other communities, the Internet gave their kids access to ideas and subjects that they had been shielded from in the past

I hear that. (Im not focusing on the shmiras ainayim point, thats a different shmooze.) I think the internet (and all its social media) keeps growing in its power and publicity of ideas that dont follow a torah household, at a scary pace. It used to be you log on to aol and check your mail or whatever. Now evrything is a forum and everyone is shouting their corrupt and moraly insane stupidity, stupidities that get shoved down your throat. If you disagree with some views you are a bigot or maybe even Hitler himself.

Even if these ideas and concepts and lifestyles were familiar to youth, theres a new draw to them. A draw that packs a punch. (a strong punch.) That’s all besides the great and famous popular in style people expressing views and opinions which everyone loves to hear so much.

The classic Haskalah thing to say was “cmon bro, get in touch with reality, get with the times.” I feel this danger is out there in a larger way as well. To keep up with everyone and everything you have to share the cool views about life and the pursuit of momentary happiness or your a relic. I got more to say but gtg

You can smoke a cigar when you have a baby. You don’t smoke a casual joint with dinner. You smoke it for one reason, to get high.

cmon man, most people drink alcohol for its inibriating effects. and who cares if there are other kinda ok times to drink if it is a dangerous substance?

answer is that normal people over the legal age are, and can be, responsible to be responsible with their own lives. there are other drugs a person cant be responsible with, like heroin.

the pro pot crowd is made up of unrepentant druggies and people who have never known someone who suffered from the drug and thus are completely clueless.

false and false. cmon neville you really thought so?

MsPrincess, i highly doubt someone overdosed on weed. Even if it’s true that they did i promise you more people die from drinking too much alcohol than taking too much maraj.

Black Sabbath Hat

Letz Zeppelin

The Bootles (theyre Skver)

…but then my name would be Doinky

Flatbusher- In this day and age, I think people have to have the expectation that pictures taken can end up anywhere, and I don’t know how you can control it other than relying on the integrity of the picture taker to honor your wishes.

I think in a frum setting people really don’t have to expect this. Maybe on the street i agree but by a frum simcha i disagree. And if you’ll say “but there are people that’ll do it”

Wolf- In our days of ubiquitous camera phones and social media, I have to wonder if guests taking pictures is something that has become such a normal thing to do that a host requesting otherwise would fall out of the social norms.

I dont know the rules of what makes something normal. Point is, there are so many simchas that ive been to that arent smartphone simchas, where most people in attendance are holding on to their values. As for the handful of people that do have smartphones there, they have the decency not to publicize pics. So what is the norm?

(BTW What happens if by half of orthodox jews this isn’t the common practice, do i go by where i am or what the general populace does?)

Then how do you define good?

If 3/4 of the world like wine A and 1/4 think it’s garbage, but that 1/4 are connoisseurs, would you say wine A is good? Maybe you like it but is it good?