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I must disagree with the OP.
One of the things i personally hate about the coffee room is that anything goes, besides straight out nivul peah. But that is what really makes it a unique place. People come here to say whats on their mind. The mods will and have posted straight out comments that bash YWN website itself and rightfully so because it is the poster opinion and not the mods. with all due respect, we dont REALLY know who the mods are, so why should we leave it up to them to decide who can post what and if its said with “up most” sensitivities what is going to stop them from decided they don’t like your opinion on something so they wont post it? Forums are not supposed to be censored, That the reason why people are here, if they a mechalel shabbos, troll, married with kids or a 7-year old kid in middle of math class. But in the coffee room behind our geshamke nick names and one liners we are all big mumcheas in whatever your life problem may be. If someone says something to offend you just move on. i mean come on we’ve all seen some of the totally wild, surprising and sometimes shocking posts that we all say ” I cant beilive the mods let that one go” but thats why we keep coming back.(and for the cool ads)
Mods if we are some how taking a vote, i say nay (and for whoever doesnt know, nay means no.)
Yes. You cant keep yeshiiva guys or bais yaakov girls shielded forever. The best lesson you can teach them is that they are family and yes its to be around female/ male family. Do you really feel that its inappropriate for cousins to have any communtcation with thier oppsite gender family?
A+ hedgebuilders. Awesome
First of all, yes life in the hipocritical sysyem could be so bad when we are faced with such questions of to go broke paying tuition or put food on the table. Secondly, we have spent so much time bashing drinking that we have never actukkyy face the issue. Drinking has been part of judisim for many many years. What ever simcha you go to the first thing you hear is le’chiam. Yet we tell our yeshiva boys your men at thirteen but only for the not fun stuff but for drinking your little kids. The gemara says mayim ginuvim yemtaku, stolen water is sweeter every where yeshiva guys go the see booze but cant have it,so of course when the get access thay will drink as much as they can. When my husband went to yeshiva thats all he would do. Weneed to face the music and teach them how to drink RESPONSIBLY! That the only way we can my a dent
Haleivi,
Nope, since I live in my own house.
unless of course the OP feel compelled to respond out of guilty conscience
yogi,
LOL again, do you really think you were the only person in the world that lived underneath someone else? i was in your situation too when i first got married before i lived in my own house and you know what? i dealt with it because i knew that when people live on top of you there is going to be noise. i did not make a whole internet forum to find fault in other people for no reason. Perhaps if one were to look into every little thing that u do you wouldn’t be so happy about it. like maybe the dangers of opening your mouth on facebook? just be careful what YOU do and say bec in reality YOU do not know what it really means to have nasty neighbors.
mw13 hope that cold gets better. if you have something to say be straight about it.
yo i wouldn’t hold your breath for a response. clearly not everyone agrees with your point of view and i have no doubt that they for sure dont agree. i wouldn’t be surprised if they took that letter and put it straight into the shredder.
PS and they’re probably LOL’ing about your ludicrous, over dramatization of a little noise.
so far there are a lot of opinions written here, but not so much what does the halacha say in this situation.
here a link of what the halacha says one can and cannot do in their home.
no guilty conscience, im just a born a bred instigator, always taking the other side of the coin.
So let me get this clear, They didnt eat by you on shabbos. and they called you a stalker for sending text messages. and YOU told them they could only talk in their bedroom after a certain hour, and they didnt listen. thats what this whole hype is about?
interesting.
Gorsh boogi that sound pretty intense.
again all the “ppl” you spoke to are only hearing your (possibly tainted) side of the story.
Listen if you needed a place where you could get proper sympathy from strangers and this is what works for you, fine dont let me ruin it for you. im just trying to shed a bit of light that PERHAPS there are two sides. and remember if in fact you are wrong then what goes around comes around will come right back to you……
anonymrs, for the record just because your downstairs neighbors didnt COMPLAIN doesnt mean it didnt bother them, if lets say friday night you had alot of guests and your meals ended very late and your downstairs neighbor heard all the chairs start to move when they were trying to sleep. perhaps they swallowed the fact that its a basement and thats what supposed to happen. P.s you claim that you know inside details about the situation, its the internet i highly doubt you even ever spoke to the upstairs neighbor ever that you can talk so brazenly about what they did or didnt do. Your only hearing it from the OP’s (possibly tainted) view of the story.
Aries, the OP said talking and DID NOT say loudly. all she said was she heard talking.
YOboogi, one more thing from some of your posts you have written it seems that with an attitude like that it is more than likely it will spill over into other areas of your life. whats going to be when you get into an altercation with an employer? your just going to go on an internet bashing rampage? i cant imagine that that will end happy.
It’s all how you want to read the posts. you can say talking MEANS loud and in considerate or you an say that it a bit over dramatized. but then again what do i know im just an outsider
Yoogi,
LOL!!! thats what your whole post is based on? someone had a conversation in their own house at 12 am and you blow a gasket? where else should they talk at 12? what are they supposed to do follow your and you husband schedule? And i may be going out on a limb here but based on you loud words and negative attitude perhaps he called you a stalker because your were stalking them FOR TALKING IN THEIR HOUSE!?!?
unless of course they moved in on top of you,
Who was there first?
if i were him it wouldn’t be “almost” punch in the face.
Daas yachid, in reality the op has really no facts that they weren’t accommodating. in truth i still only see smoke, but no inconsiderate davkah
‘They didnt care that my husband has to get up at very early hour so therefore we had to go to sleep when they did which was at 1AM or sometimes later.’
LOL again, so your saying they should listen to you when you dictate its time for sleep? your landlord was right to say hes not a dorm counselor (as you said above) but you are the dorm counselor?!
yogi,
“whatever” has raised an interesting point, reading back at your posts you never really post what this “loud and noisy”ness was. can you clarify? was it a party? loud music?
also if it wasn’t just about the noise what was it about?
good luck in your new home!