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Sorry, Health, with all respect to your “health field” connection, the doctor SPECIFICALLY told us to use the silvadene (thank you for the spelling correction,DY) to relieve the PAIN of the burn, as well as for its antibiotic sulfa properties. And relieve the pain (nearly instantly) it absolutely did.

As to the cold water, COLD, not ice water is what I use. I only referred to use of an ice cube, to keep the newly-tepid water cold without having to run cold water again. I would NOT recommend ice water or putting an ice cube on a burn. It WOULD damage the skin. But very cold water is VERY helpful in reducing the damage and further burning of the tissue, and does relieve the pain as long as the finger, hand, etc. is submerged completely. I do not understand WHY that is the case, but I have always found it to be so. I am guessing it would not really work the same way for a third degree burn. But the type most of us get from getting splashed with hot water, or touching a hot pot without gloves (thank you, Golfer, for your good intentions), IS easily controlled with this method, in my (unfortunately)vast experience.

This is what you do. You keep your burned hand submerged in cold water (make sure it stays very cold) for as long as you want. The cold a) cools down the burned skin before it gets more damaged), and really takes away the pain for as long as the finger, etc. is submerged. If you have Sylvadine (sp?) cream, available only by prescription, that will more ro less instantly stop the pain, depending on the severity of the burn. What Popa described should be easily handled by this.

I once thoughtlessly picked up a frying pan by the handle, when it had been in my oven for a few minutes. Yes, I forgot to use a potholder. I had burns across a nice swath of skin. I immediately ran the cold water, filled a pot and put my hand in. Well, that is not really accurate. I immediately screamed my guts out, THEN went to get the cold water. After about half an hour, with changing the water a couple of times or adding an ice cube to keep it cold, I finally took my hand out. One area was burned a little more and thus still hurt a bit, but I had some of the Sylvadine cream from a time when someone in my family was a little careless while draining a pot of spaghetti (fortunately not injured too severely), and it worked instantly.

Be careful, people. And whatever you do, don’t put your finger in your mouth if you burn it on a popcorn (or any other)pot. Remember what happened to Moshe Rabbeinu.

Refuah shelaima, Popa.

How do you know he isn’t ALREADY here? (And if you are, Rocky, please tell us). Write something funny, so we know it’s you. Or write something unfunny, and keep us guessing…

WIY – seriously?

Thanks!I got a royal treatment.

I just read the following today:

“THERE IS A MISHNA IN MEGILLAH THAT SAYS “EIN BAIN ADAR RISHON L’ADAR SHENIE ELE KRIAS MEGILLAH UMATONAS LEVYONIM BILVAD”; THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST ADAR AND THE SECOND ADAR ONLY THAT YOU CAN NOT DO YOUR OBLIGATION OF READING MEGILLAH AND PRESENTS FOR THE POOR.

THE POWER OF PRAYER REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME; HOWEVER, BY THE FIRST ADAR THE RABBIS DID NOT MAKE AN OBLIGATION TO DRINK.”

So just as the koach hatefilah is so great on Purim, likewise, it has the same koach on Purim Katan.

And everyone knows “meshuga,” “Oy Vey,” and a few assorted words which I will not print here. It’s all crept into the vernacular.

and Oomis – you’re not the only one with tooth renovation projects”

So sorry to hear that – refuah shelaima!

For the dentists parnassah. “

With ME, lately, that’s for sure!!!!! LOL

I was reading the Flatbush Jewish Journal this Shabbos, and had to laugh out loud when I read the Ask the Shadchan Column. It was illustrative of how parents can potentially sabotage their children’s shidduchim before they even begin. The parent, I presume, mom, writing the letter was disturbed because the boy wanted NOT to go through the shadchan to make the call to arrange the date, but to speak to the girl himself! Horrors!!!! The mom was sufficiently bothered by this and it caused such agita, that she felt compelled to address this awful breach of frum etiquette, in a shadchan column forum.

To her credit, the shadchan told the parent there was nothing wrong with this, it is how we did things in decades past. BTW, the daughter had NO problem with this – it was all coming from the parent. Can you imagine if this guy is perfect for her daughter and the mother would refuse to allow the shidduch for such a reason?????

We need to stop infantilizing our children. If they are old enough to be in shidduchim, they are old enough to make and receive phone calls from people trying to date them. They are likewise old enough to say to their date if they do NOT wish to go forward in the shidduch, rather than put the onus on the shadchan to so their dirty work for them.

People get turned down in many areas of their lives every day. They don’t get hired for a job, they don’t get picked for a team, they don’t get called on in class every time they know the answer. This is part of life, and the sooner our kids understand that rejection inevitably happens to all of us at some point, the sooner they will be able to deal with it in shidduchim, as well. We are treating our children, not as the grownups they are supposed to be, but as the immature tykes we still believe them to be.

AZ, there will never be a shortage of rebbies, as long as there are yeshivah boys who are not preparing themselves for any type of other career, by getting a good secular education. Being a rebbie almost seems to be a default position for many such bochurim, in my experience. At least, that is what they have all told me they plan to do with their lives. And before anyone jumps down my throat, I have been specific in stating that this is my personal experience with the Kollel sons of some of my friends, who are doing exactly what I just said.

It was a movie reference. Going to the dentist is generally QUITE safe. And recommended.

not sure about your situation, but my mouth is salivating at the thought of kibbe and ptcha at the same shmorg”

That sentence was fine, until you mentioned the p’tcha.

Just to be clear, a shadchan can very easily ascertain the financial support issue prior to setting up a date. In interviewing a girl’s parents, one of the questions should be, “What is your position on your financial support of the couple while the boy learns fulltime, for how long are you willing to give the support, and what is the scope of that support, if any?”

I see no issue with that at all. It’s a fair querstion, and it avoids redting shidduchim that l’chatchilah will not be pelasing to the parents on either side.

HOWEVER, they (shadchanim) don’t feel comfortable doing so at the begining, and their lack of comfort level is to a large extent due to how they will be perceived if they were to do it.”

Sorry, but if it is an “accepted and well-known practice” to be paid a “going rate” then most people expect the shadchan to charge for the service, by your own acknowledgement. It’s just a matter of defining the parameters. And just as with any other business, the customer should be told the price before agreeing to the service.

Yum, please invite me, too.

OK, this thread is about how to ask for shadchanus tactfully. The only way to avoid the necessity for an unpleasant encounter, is to be candid from the outset. Think of it this way – how do potential machetonim best avoid inyanim about support for a learning boy after marriage? They speak candidly to the shadchan from the very beginning, so the boy’s side knows in advance that shidduchim will only be redt to them that are shayach in this area. It is crucial for such a parent to know if the girl’s parents are willing and able to support the couple, how much they will, and for how long. The girl’s parents can weigh in their opinion, as well. If there is no meeting of the minds, the shidduch does not have to be set up, and no one is resentful for being blindsided.

I fail to see why any shadchan would not prefer to do business the same way, in expressing from the outset the expectation of a specified amount if and when the shidduch goes through. That avoids the need for “tact” etc. later on. This is my fee, payable upon the wedding (or whatever is agreed upon), and a contract should be signed.The person then can decided to avail himself of the services or not. Yes yes, no no. No hurt feelings.

I don’t think that this is a fair allegation to make regarding the posters in this thread. Based on your statement’s implications, infants should not be vaccinated (painful) or restrained in car seats (upsetting) without consent.”

Avram, to be fair, this is apples and oranges. No one NEEDS to have pierced ears. But vaccines, on the other hand have saved lives. Car seats, save lives. Causing very temporary discomfort for a lifetime of safer health, is a small price. And though the bris is a mitzvah and THAT is the only reason that we need for doing it, there is no question that there are many physical and health benefits that accrue from that temporary pain.

The only benefit I see from having pierced ears – not losing your earrings as often as other people do. I don’t have them, and I have beautiful earrings anyway. And BTW, it’s very hard to talk on the phone with earrings on. And babies just LOVE to pull on earrings. OWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

I have a friend who is actually furious with her daughter for not wanting to pierce the baby’s ears. I think this is extreme.

Golfer, it should be noted that some really gorgeous people came from otherwise plain or even unattractive parents, and some really gorgeous looking parents, had gawky looking kids. It’s all in how Hashem combines the genes. And it’s all in the eyes of the beholder, anyhow.

Baal Habooze – wise of you not to tell that over at the Shabbos Tisch, especially when you were being served the hot soup!

Our mayor has dropped the ball.

As men can do three out of four of those things, I fail to see the bias, even were I to actually accept your premise. And as women are nowadays expected by yeshivish MEN to provide the family income while the men sit in Kollel all day, I fail to even see the validity of your number one claim. I sincerely hope you and your spouse can clear up the issues that appear to be the catalyst for your comment.